I would add Kumerow to the positive list. The guy just keeps making plays. I was not on the Kumerow bandwagon to start this year, but I am becoming a convert. He and Shepard are going to be tough to keep off the 53. Davis and Moore might be in trouble.

IIRC, the third exhibition game offers the most insight as to how a team functions when at full strength. Way too early for gnashing of teeth.

As to the backup QB situation, I would be surprised we’re Gute not on alert for veteran cuts league wide.

I will be surprised if Gutey doesn’t bring in some ILB help. Summers took a step back and continues to miss tackles. I like his potential but a lot to learn yet. Bolton continues to shine and love the hard tackle Martinez put on, but we need some veteran depth and/or starter next to Martinez.

Yes Kumerow just gets open and catches the ball....oops he finally missed one, he gets a pass. Allison had a good game as well. It will be very difficult to decide who to cut as Lazard and shepherds also had their moments.

Lazard is 6’5” and 227 lbs. and had three catches for 63 yards. He’s a big target who gets open down field and catches the football. Looks like a productive receiver who the Packers should keep on the roster as he will get picked up by some team if he goes on the PS.

"Lame Calls
DeShone Kizer"

LOL I got blown up with downvotes on the "Gut Reactions" thread for saying the same.

I think Kizer needs to be a QB3 for a while to work on his accuracy. I don't see how you can count on him to win a few games if AR is hurt for a few weeks.

Kizer played with the ones with whom he does not practice regularly against the starters on a good D with no running game. He did OK under the circumstances.

My bet is that the team disagrees with both you and the writer. Performance has to be looked at in context, including Boyle’s against the twos and threes before the scrubs came in.

JJ...I wasn’t impressed by Kizer but to play devils advocte I’d have to say in the one series he had three good throws where only one was caught. The one miss was with DW trying to one hand the catch, don’t remember who the other was.

He was also playing against one of the better starting D in the league. Does he instill a lot of confidence in us fans, probably not. None of the back ups do for me.

Game Balls -
Shepherd - he is making a serious run at the 53. In my eyes he is on it, but there are 2 more games.

Lazard - Like Shepherd he is fighting for a spot on the 53.

Bolton - He really has been impressive for an UDFA.

Lame Calls -

Boyle - While Kizer was up and down Boyle was awful. If Boyle wants to try and make a run for the 53, he better show up a lot better next week.

Ty Summers - I will give him credit he has great instincts and gets himself in great position to make plays. But he seriously looks like he is trying to tackle without arms. The knock on him in college was his missing tackles. That is showing up here too.

Penalty's - Too many! Just to sloppy with it.

Notes -

I really can't wait to see what this team looks like when they aren't running vanilla stuff. I just get this feeling that they are going to unleash a lot of looks on the Bears in week 1. In the mean time they are really running basic stuff.

As of right now I think they keep 2 QB's, 4 RB's, 4 TE's, and thinking maybe 7 WR's. I think they can go 7 WR's because they will only keep 4 RB's and 2 QB's.

For the WR's, I think Adams, Allison, MVS and Kumerow are locks. I think EQ should be on the 53 and I think Shepherd has made the 53. That leaves 1 spot for Davis, Lazard, Moore. Going on what I have seen, Lazard deserves it. If Davis wants to make the 53, he better get back on the field.

This team was lucky they weren't blown out. Kirk Olvadotti ILB coach and Mike Smith OLB coach got caught with their pants down. Missed tackles, poor positioning, Lack of pressure, the whole unit looked lost. And when guys have yardage to cover, the result is missed tackles. I can't pat anyone on the back this game. They lacked leadership. They lacked a Thumper. To much is being put on the ILbs. If the only job for a OLB to do is rush, were going to get killed. Sure the backs were running hard against them. But the disappointment was obvious. This unit wasn't playing together.

Observations

Interesting that two of the best players on the field for the Packers Bolton & Shepherd were UDFA’s

Summers was awful out there

Where have MVS and EQ been

The difference between the Ravens running game and the Packers is disturbing

Ditto for The toughness of the Ravens Defense compared to the Packers Defense

At least the Packers Punter looked good, they are going to need him to be, a lot

Lazard is making at run at the 53

Kumerow should be starting opposite Adams

If I was the Packers DC I would have the Defense live tackling in practice, they are embarrassing out there compared to teams like the Ravens and Bears

It is only preseason seems to be the standard line but why even play the game or risk injuries if the team is going out there half assed, pathetic, putrid performance!

That is all

-Kumerow has jumped Allison imo as the 3rd WR

-Am I seeing things or did Montravius Adams spend half the game on his ass? The D-line looked really horseshit

-Poor effort by Gary chasing down ball carriers at the 2nd level. He needs to finish plays and hustle, I wouldn't care if he were a 6 year vet but rookies need to hustle and prove themselves.

Bolton is a good player, fast, good pursuit, decent tackling, he is clearly ahead of Summers, it' not close

-I am salivating over Lazard, I am really hoping he can squeeze onto the 53, otherwise he will be claimed off waivers, no way he makes it to the PS.

-was Kenny Clark even trying? I am wondering if he is giving 60% to protect himself in these games before he can cash in before week one. I would likely do the same.

-Kingsley KeKe is a find, he was giving the o linemen issues, good penetration, good hands

-Shepard looks as though he can give them everything Davis Gives them and more, If I am TD I demand a cortisone shot to get back on the field, his roster spot is officially in jeopardy

-Dexter Williams looks like a rookie, not sure I would trust him if I am Lefluer

-was J'Mon Moore out there? probably not a good time to be invisible, I don't see how he makes this team

If Rodgers goes down........we are effed.....

Gary rhymes with Perry hope that is the only similarity between the two but so far not impressed!

Bure, this summer many were raving about Summer's because of a lot of tackles and his highlight reel from college. But, what I saw on a couple of game films, especially Iowa State was a player who missed tackles on quick, high level players such as Iowa State's Montgomery, who now plays for da bear...Argh. I was down voted a lot for those remarks, but the truth was on the game films. I love his hustle, but he has a ways to go. Bolton has now had two good games in a row, hope it continues. I still think Gutey needs to find a solid ILB via trade or waiver wire. If Summer's isn't it this year, at the very least, we certainly need better depth at the position.

How about a "game ball" for Scott, wow he boomed some big punts the last two games. Some 5 second + hang times. Certainly, one of the reasons for the TD in game one. Too bad our ST didn't get down field on the 55 yd, 5+second hang time last night. Their returning made 12 yards out of it. Should've been 55 not 43 net.

Bolton does look better than Ty Summers , my bad, Ty definitely just needs to clean up his tackles. He has good speed, instincts, good communication with teammates, almost had his hand on that laser pass for a TD, but again Bolton is ahead of Summers.

Dexter Williams runs really good, but miscues and not being able to catch a screen pass really DROPS his value. Just a #3 RB at this point.

It's sad that when one posts an objective albeit negative comment on here about the Pack the obtuse herd mentality with "the Packers are the greatest regardless of how bad they look" come out like a fat chick in a Wisconsin winter. The Packers are NOT good. This is NOT about a stupid preseason game. This is about a 14 year consistent trend! Face reality! They won't be until something fundamental changes at the very top. Proof? The Packers have drafted EIGHTEEN 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round players the last few years on their defense and recently spent almost $100 million on players brought in and NOTHING changes. They still STINK. Change coordinators, still stink. Use every 1st and 2nd round pick on defense, still stink. Meanwhile, the Patriots figure out a way to field a solid D and the Bears and Ravens DNA starts with defense so they'd could skip multiple drafts and still have a top defense. The Packers stink AT THE TOP! The facts dictate that Gutty and his staff do NOT know how to identify good defensive talent, the coaches have NO idea of how to get the best out of what they have (think, Randall, Hyde, Hayward), and most horrid of all is Murphy has NOT instituted the right culture throughout the organization of "the Packers WILL have a dominant defense". Sorry people. They.......are........broken......

We have three weeks before we play a game that counts in Chicago. What needs to be done?

1. The run defense has to improve. Control your gaps.

2. We should do what I’ve suggested regarding special teams and not give them the chance to hurt us.

3. We need to see what the first offense can do.

Big gar says, ne t weeks game is the only one that matters. If we play like we did last night. 4-12 will be our record and we will revert back to the 80’s

There were positives, but, the biggest is how poorly the team showed overall. That will carry more impact as a "reset" than anything.

The next big positive was the lack of injuries. I'm hoping Ka'Dar Hollman is OK, but have not heard of any others.

I wonder if Gutekunst trades ESB or MVS? We are very deep at WR, and all of Kumerow, Shepherd and Lazard should be on our 2019 roster.

Please, Matt LaFleur, give Manny Wilkins a shot with the 1s & 2s, for 2 quarters. A fair shot to see what he can really do.

Game Ball: No major injuries. Hopefully Holman will be OK.
Game ball to whoever decided to hold Rodgers out of the game.

Lame Calls: Preseason football games. This was like watching the equivalent of Double A baseball or even worse. Basically these games are unwatchable.

Predicting how good or bad the team or the players will be based on these preseason performances.

Lame call: Packers trying to tackle. If that carries over into the season Rodgers and the offense will need to score about 80 points per game in order to win. We have 23-24 coaches on the team. Don’t we have at least one who can teach players how to tackle? Ridiculous. Thanks, Since ‘61

I kept on seeing missed tackle after missed tackle after missed tackle after missed tackle! UGH!!!

Well, patience, I guess.
Next game seems big, if not huge, and Aaron Rodgers is the guy to set the tone for the offense and the defense by taking this preseason game seriously as an important step in building teamwork and confidence.
After the first few practices seemed excellent, things apparently have really gone downhill (at least on offense) starting even before the Texans came to town for joint practices.
Maybe there's a certain fatigue, and maybe it's learning a new system, and maybe it's so many new guys trying to gel together.
As to last night, perhaps so many things were going wrong that it's hard to put too much blame on particular players.
Taking a deep breath! Here's to patience with a certain amount of urgency.
Here's to Aaron Rodgers being coachable and enthusiastic and a leader of men.

I disagree that Kizer was better than Boyle. Boyle was 13 out of 21 and had Tonyan have the ball stripped from him on a catch, Kumerow drop his 1st pass that I've ever seen him drop in a game and had Shepard have the ball skip off his hands on what was a difficult, but catchable ball. Yes he short hopped a couple that he should have completed, but he would've been 16 out of 21 for probably 160 yards or more had those been caught.

It's preseason and yet the Ravens O-line opened holes against our #1 D, their runners looked like NFL runners, their players hit our players in the mouth and it appeared at times they were simply toying with us physically. Our new players, other than Z. Smith, have so far been invisible. Gary is proving every day that the predraft evaluation was true, he may be fast and strong but that does not necessarily make for a good football player. Ability to change direction and instinct is far more important. He doesn't seem to have either. To spend a #12 pick on a project was simply stupid. Gute has proven nothing yet except that he likes to give up draft picks for guys who run fast but are not great football players. Loss of Daniels will hurt as M. Adams was pushed around easily. And all this gushing over the WR's. We do this every year, some late-round pick or UDFA makes a couple of catches in practice or against another team's 3rd string and we think he's going to set the league on fire. Lazard is slow and will not get open against top CB's. Kumerow is a #4 receiver at best. Shepard will get set on his ass and be lucky to get off the line of scrimmage. MVS still can't run routes. We do not have a legit #2 receiver that will keep Adams from being double-teamed. And to not have a legit backup QB when your QB is 35 years old and getting injured regularly, that's grounds for dismissal. Gute blinked when it came to Khalil Mack and he's been trying to recover ever since, signing the Smith Bros and drafting Gary. I'd trade all three, and throw in Burks and Savage for Mack. I just don't see the great talent infusion that so many others around here are excited about.

Work in progress on all fronts.
The back up QB is indeed very disconcerting and should be Priority #1 on Gute’s list.

People need to relax here, a meaningless game against a team that thinks preseason wins get you to the super bowl, lets judge in real game action before we declare who's a draft bust.

Game ball to the punter, as soon as it comes down from the stratosphere.