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Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 266 - Draft Preview Part 16 - Tight Ends

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Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 266 - Draft Preview Part 16 - Tight Ends

On today's show, Nick Schmitz and Owen Riese take a look at the top tight ends in the draft and review whether or not they are worthy of a first round pick. Plus a look at some tight ends who Green Bay could target later in the draft.

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Andy is a graduate of UW-Oshkosh and owns & operates the Pack-A-Day Podcast. Andy has taken multiple courses in NFL scouting and appears weekly on 107.5 The Fan in Green Bay to breakdown film. This past season he was an analyst on Green Bay Nation on WFRV TV in Green Bay. Andy grew up in Green Bay and is a lifelong season ticket holder; follow him on Twitter at @sconniesports.

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stockholder's picture

I just cannot get on board with a Te in the first. I believe it's reaching. The packers do list DT as a need now. It's just to big of need not to hit on a Dt. @12. I only see 2 in this draft. Wilkins and Oliver. I only see 1 pass rusher Sweat. If the packers don't go defense their first pick. The rebuild will continue, until they spend more money. And more money, and more money. I can understand a Guard, or Tackle @30. The value is there. The press has turned this into a dart board. And when that happens the best solution is to build the Lines.

Cubbygold's picture

Completely agree. Daniels and Bulaga may both be gone next year. If you picture what the team looks like without them, or the cost to retain them, it's clear that these are the areas where an elite prospect needs to be added to the team.

dobber's picture

I think a significant reason they kept Graham and Lewis was to make TE a luxury--and not a need--pick in this draft. Add that to the signing of Amos, Smith, and Smith, and they can go a tremendous number of ways with #12, #30, and #44 based on how the draft falls to them. That's not a bad place to be.

Cubbygold's picture

My hypothetical for the day… the Packers are winning the superbowl this year.

Given that fact, GB will be picking in the #32 slot next year. Gute has an opportunity to trade this pick now, and get extra value, because other GMs are unaware that the 2020 Superbowl has already been decided. Gute can likely get low-20s value for this pick now, as most GMs would place GB behind NO, LAR, CHI, and PHI.

Gute should use this information to his advantage, and trade that pick now for a premium. Package the 30th pick with the 2020 first round pick, and end up with picks #7 and #12. Use those two picks to grab Jawaan Taylor and Ed Oliver. Taylor makes Bulaga expendable, which creates cap space to sign Tre Boston to a multi-year deal. Take the best TE/WR prospect in the second round.

albert999's picture

Wow
That’s outside the box and I like it!

KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

Me too!

Dragon5's picture

I will continue to bang the drum for Foster Moreau as a 4th rd pick. Despite his superior athleticism, LSU did not feature him as a receiving threat in their system. LaFleur wants a blocking TE...Hock & Moreau are regarded as the best blockers in class. Athleticism...
SPARQ: Fant 145.7 Hock 131.4 Moreau 131.0
RAS: Fant 9.89 Hock 9.21 Moreau 9.48

Once again my Gronk vs Moreau comparison:
Dragon5 says:
March 18, 2019 at 11:26 pm(edit)
Gronk's stats are on the left...my TE pick's stats next to Gronk's, a 1 Life Path and Taurus just like Gronk as well. Stud blocker already, coach up the receiving intangibles (hands / footwork / release / routes etc) and you've got your Pro Bowl TE for the next decade for only a 4th round pick and we currently have two of those. Walter Football has him ranked as the #16 TE...fine by me...who doesn't love a deep discount!?!?

Measurable
Height 6' 6" 6'6"
Weight 258 lbs 253lbs
Arm Length 34¼" 33½"
Hand Size 10¾" 9⅝"
40 Yard Dash 4.68s 4.66s
Vertical Jump 33½" 36½"
Broad Jump 119" 121"
3-Cone Drill 7.18s 7.16s
20 Yard Shuttle 4.47s 4.11s
Bench Press 23 reps 22reps

albert999's picture

Love it
Would be a great deal in the 4th

RickInCali's picture

Talk about under-utilized. Almost no tape on your guy....much like the Georgia wideouts. I’ll add your guy to the list of “hidden in plain sight gems” along with Ridley, RB Henderson from Memphis, and Darius Slayton from Auburn. To me.....just another reason to trade down from 12 and try to own the late first to middle second rounds so you can try for a home run in the third and with the 2 4ths.

RickInCali's picture

What if it fell like this:
Brian Burns
Adderley
Lindstrom
Darrell Henderson - RB Memphis
Kahale Warring - TE San Diego State
Bobby Evans - OT Oklahoma

This is very realistic and seems like it would be an outstanding haul. I would rather have a DT somewhere, but it didn’t fall like that value-wise, here. If it were me, I’d trade out of 12 to 18-20 or so and pick up a second (may take a 5th to do). There are going to be a ton of good possible players in the late first into the second. Adderley, Savage, Thornhill, Simmons, Hollywood Brown, Lindstrom, Risner, Ferrell....point is we need more picks NOT less. No trade-ups that involve our 44, please.

blondy45's picture

Totally agree Rick. The players you list are very similar to what I would like, and they are realistic, also team needs. More picks not less!

draftpete's picture

Agree Rick, my same thoughts. I especially think that Warring and Evans as late round picks are very possible. A lot of needs filled here without reaching. The only thing would be to get a WR like Lodge instead of Henderson. But that's just me.

RickInCali's picture

Pete -- There are many more guys I like so I don't think you are off at all. I like Ridley and Slayton a ton, too. I am still watching tape to find the big back I'd like for the cold weather months..... Henderson is a luxury but watch his patience then he puts his foot in the ground and goes. Should be super in the ZBS we'll run.

Dragon5's picture

The argument for quality, over quantity, is oft misleading as quantity not only increases the odds of successful roster additions, but the competition forces the complacent clutter / deadweight out the door sooner too...which has been a huge issue with player and coaching performance alike in recent years.

blondy45's picture

Great point Dragon. As has been debated here earlier, the best players are Defensive Edge, DT's, & TE's at the top of this year's draft board. Gute has to see how the draft falls to him @ pick 12 . If a stud is there unexpectedly, no brainer. I want a stud that contributes "this" year right away, everyday for years. If that does not present itself, Gute turns into a jolly young Easter Rabbit. He should be all ears and listen to other offers. Hop back a few spots, hit the draft board's sweet spot with quality and quantity picks in rounds 1-3. It looks like a win-win situation to me. No Drew Lock until round 2. That will not happen, just a smoke screen by Gute, nicely done. Where there is smoke, there is fire. The fire is warming up Aaron Rodgers seat. A neat little way Gute, without making a big deal of the Lock invite, should let our QB be reminded of history. He is the about the same age as Favre was when Rodgers came on board. He knows father time is undefeated and will come out on top in the end. Rodgers will be our QB for the near future for sure, but Aaron needs to be a team player now. He must buy into LaFleur's plan and execute it or be replaced sooner than later.

KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

Have been vocal about this for months but have premonition Fant somehow some way ends up with the GBP's. He would be Rodgers best friend and would blow up the middle of the field. Play him in-line or out wide creating big match up problems either way. He would be faster than all receivers except MVS and Trevor Davis (is he a WR)? An immediate impact player in the middle of LF's offense. LB's nor Safeties could keep up with him. At 6'5" and 250 lbs running a 4.5 with a 40" vertical who the hell could defend this guy with Rodgers throwing to him?

If I am wrong than so be it but we shall see. Just a hunch he is very high on Packer board.

Oliver and Fant would be Christmas come early and the Pack would be off to a roaring start on both sides of the ball. Christian Wilkens, Simmons, or Burns would be okay too if Oliver was unavailable.

Dragon5's picture

Perhaps that's the reason they kept Graham...to tutor the 2.0 version for a year.

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