Young football team. Not ready for tough opponents yet. Let’s hope they get better as the season goes. That looms large.

You play like you practice. Too many plays conditioned to the half-effort of a typical Packers practice showed up on this night. Slow, late, letting up, getting run over and pushed around was a common theme.

There was a noticeable difference in the speed and vigor with which the Lions prosecuted the action on both sides of the ball and dictated the outcome of plays.

Dan Campbell has infected his team with his personality. So has Matt LaFleur.

5 consecutive losses to the Lions.

Might be time for Packer fans to face the reality that Detroit is the better team, has superior coaching, and is more talented overall.

Or, we could continue to pretend that a defense with 8 first round picks and plenty of veterans (Gary, Clark, P. Smith, Hollins, Savage, Ford, Douglas) is gonna improve once Joe Barry gets cooking.

"I was going to give one to Quay Walker, who was all over the field making tackles all night, nineteen of them. But his bonehead penalty on the field goal try, which enabled Detroit to take three points off the board and instead gave them the ball first and goal, allowing them to run two more minutes off the clock and then score the touchdown that put the game away"

Common Ken, gimmie a break... THAT game was over LONG before Walkers "Bonehead Penalty". The moment the Packers marched out Josh Meyers and Royce Newman it was over. I had to laugh to keep from crying while watching Newman and Meyers get blasted backwards play after play.

Walkers penalty was icing on the cake but could you IMAGINE what the score might have been WITHOUT Walker on the field?

I've really tried to refrain from the MLF bashing but God Damn his teams have NO CHANCE against a physical team like Detroit. He's soft and I'm so TIRED of the lost look on his face game after game.

Steno is a HORRIBLE OC, good O-Line coach but horrible OC. I know he doesn't call plays but God Damn...You get Jones back and don't even fucking use him? UGHHHHHHH!!!

WHY is Jerry Montgomery still the D-Line coach and run game coordinator? He was shit last year, the year before, and the year before that. This year? Double UGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Joe Barry...HAHAHAHA!! I'm really crying right now...

When does Mark Murphy HAVE retire? Until then I'm afraid EVERYBODY will be here. Bob Harlon, Ron Wolf, hell, Elliot Wolf...Where are you?

Banged up O-line, I get it. But were any receivers open “on time”? I doubt that 10 was holding the ball just to hold it.
On defense, would having 59 and 23 out there made that much of a difference?
As to usage of 33: is he REALLY healthy enough to be out there? Is that why he was so sparsely used?

Am I the only one who is screaming the TV every time Nixon runs a kickoff out from 6 yards deep in the end zone? What's wrong with starting at the 25, with no penalties or injuries??

What is the possible rationale for accepting the 3rd down penalty and giving the Lions another shot? I rarely yell at the TV but that made me.

Best-case scenario there we stop them (fingers crossed) and they kick a 30-yard fg instead of a 20? I can’t believe they didn’t score a TD just to rub it in our faces.

National pundits this morning are not being kind to MLF, Love and the soft-ass Packers...

First game of the season Detroit beat the Chiefs at Arrowhead.The Lions are tough and healthy. We know the oline is hurting for the Packers so what happened???? They got whipped like a red headed stepson. Young team has problems, we knew it would show up and it has. These young oline men haven’t learned yet how to bring the heat but they will in time. Everything is fixable, but you need coaches that can do it. Keep hearing about Quays bonehead play…ok what about the 2 down linemen that Barry deployed in goalie situation? TD with no effort. Last thing..this team misses Jenkins much more than Bak. These new guys have to use their technique that is taught to them or move aside so someone else can do it.

Just MHO

I pretty much agree with all that has been said above. I was yelling at the TV as well and felt like kicking the dog a few times but remembered I don't have a dog.

I think we all need to step back and realize we have such a young team and after signing a few of our players at exorbitant contracts, we have no Cap room and can't sign anyone. I do not believe this will change until the year after next. As hard as it is for all of us, we are going through a tough Cap time right now and with young players we need to show some patience. This game will not be the last one that we will experience this year or next for that matter. It will take time to build the team back.

I knew we had problems in the trenches but I thought our OL would be better than it is. One issue that we can correct is the coaching problem that we have. This needs to get fixed but not sure who fixes it and to what extent. I like to have faith in our FO but that is part of the problem.

We all love the Packers and we need to try to be patient that it will get taken care of. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

Yep, pretty much how a fist fight between the head coaches would turn out. Lions simply manhandled the Packers. I would love to be able to see a strength competition between our DL and theirs. I bet GB would be embarrassed.

It is tough to give out a Game Ball to anyone after the way the Packers were pulverized last night. I understand the Packers are a young team and that there will be mistakes and frustrating losses. That comes with any team in a rebuild or a transition period. However, NFL football is a physical game and the Packers were no match physically for the Lions last night and that is not a good sign for any team.

A divisional opponent came into the Packers home field and just beat them up for nearly the entire game. The OL was manhandled badly by the Lions DL. I'm not sure who was playing on the Packers DL but I didn't see Ken Clark make a play for the entire game. WAs he even in the game? Walker was the Packers best defender again but again diminished his effort with a bad penalty which put the final nail in the Packers coffin last evening.

Love had little to no chance behind the Packers OL last night. The Packers need to get their OL figured out over the mini-bye and over the full bye week after the Raiders game. They have 3 weeks to work things out. They also have about 3 weeks to get Jones and Watson ready to return at 100%. I don't know where they were at last night but they weren't 100% ready to play. I previously posted that they should not return until they were 100% but they were both out there last night and obviosly not an 100%. Why? What's the point?

I have not had much confidence in the coaching staff and that has been further diminished after last night's performance. Poor preparation, out coached and out played at every level.

Maybe Carlson gets a game ball since he has not, missed a kick yet. Then again at least we have the Titletown district. Thanks, Since '61

Never thought we would get schooled like this. Hand it to Campbell and the Lions; they came here ready to play. We are a very young team and will have to take this game as a big learning experience. If we don't learn from this, every team we face will know how to play us and beat us. Our coaches were all outplayed. A beat down that was never close. There should be a lot of soul searching going on at 1265 Lombardi.

It was a dud last night but did anyone really expect consistent excellence from this team this year? Most prognosticators had them as the third or fourth team in the division and that looks about right. Love just started his fourth game, the O-Line is a mess and the defense hasn't scared anyone in years. My guess is they win seven or eight games and we'll find out if Love and his young receiving group can grow. It's a young team prone to errors with some obvious holes to fill but if Love can take the next step the arrows will begin to point in the right direction.

After the game, when asked what happened: “We sucked,” LaFleur said. “We got our ass kicked. If I knew, it wouldn’t have happened. That’s a BS question.”

So he didn't know why they got whipped, and yet he's paid as the HC.

Game Balls
While I agree there aren't many game balls that should be given out after a performance like that, there are a couple of people i want to highlight.

Carlson -
He has been very good! He nailed the 50 yarder and probably would have been good from 15 yards farther.

Whelan -
He has been very good at holding and his punts overall were pretty good.

Lame Calls
Pretty much everything else. While it was not a good night there are things that were worse then others. Gotta highlight those.

OL -
Getting news that Bakhtiari went on IR yesterday was not great news. Realizing that he may never play in GB again was disheartening. But then seeing what was put on the field was even worse. Walker played like a 7th round pick. Newman was his usual horrible self. It was a struggle most of the game.

Play calling/personnel usage -
Both sides of the ball the play calling was bad. On offense they had no creativity, shied away from the run game. They drew up long developing plays (from what it looked like on tv), and didn't improvise when nothing was working. They did not use Jones nearly enough. On defense I saw way to many times we had 2 DL on the field. And the rotation of players. When its at the goal line why is Hollins in there over Van Ness, Smith, Gary?

Crowd -
I have never seen so many fans from another team in Lambeau. That was embarrassing.

Final thoughts -
This was a young team that played poorly. We were not at full strength and it showed. We need Jenkins back.

I was happy to see how they came out in the 2nd half. They tried making it a game.

This is a young team and there will be a lot of ups and downs. But we have a long break now and hopefully they will figure out some changes to make.

Will anyone who thought the Packers would win this game please raise your hand? You should have been tipped off when the Lions beat the Super Bowl champs week one. The Lions are for real. You can debate until next week about the Packers choices right or wrong, but after decades of futility the Lions have gotten it together. Good for them.
Packers fans have been living in a fantasy land that winning in the NFL was perpetual.

This season is the season to correct the mistakes of the past and give young players a chance to grow. The Packers won't win the Super Bowl. They likely won't make the playoffs,but they will get better.

Packers salary for 2023 is $229 million. Because they went all in the last 3 years (including a disastrous 2022 year), $58.662 million is dead cap money (guys not even on the team).

Injured Reserve (Bahktiari, Tyler Davis, and Tenuta) was another $22.319 million who were not available.

Alexander, Jenkins, and Campbell count for another $23.249 million who were not available because of injuries.

That's a ridiculous $104.23 million of value. That's not even counting Gary, Jones, and Watson on snap counts.

2023 is a year of evaluating young talent and will have ups and downs. Next year, Bahktiari is the painful last player of the failed 2020-2022 Super Bowl attempts. Bahktiari is sure looking like he will be injured and force the Packers to have another $40.465 million cap hit in 2024 for someone who doesn't help this team. (Bahktiari contract is among the worst NFL contracts ever).

I see a lot of the flaws on offense something the Vikes oue nemesis knew how to prevent. In their game against Panthers. Cousins was getting rid of the ball quickly before the pass rush could get to him. The difference, he was throwing to very fast receivers in Addison, Jefferson and Kosta. Those guys were at least 25 to 30 yards down field when he let the ball go.
I just read - didnt see game, that our receivers cant get open? Love is holding the ball too long and now getting sacked? My question, where is the god dam speed on this team. Dillon doesnt have it, Jones is so so but no barn burner. There just is no speed except for Reed who drops every other pass and Watson who plays one game and sits four.
This is just absolutely bull shit not knowing who the f to draft and its come home to roost now. The team Gutt made is on that dam field. Slow, injury prone guys who lack strength, agility and play making abilities.
When I read that Gary was Gutts guy because he played two positions I threw up. As an M fan I was never impressed with this POS. He went missing in big games, took plays off, had nagging little injuries that were convenient when the big games came up. Didnt Gutt pass up Watt? This is the team Gutt built. And the coaches he hired. Start blaiming him. Its going to get a lot uglier going forward.

watch out if the crappy Raiders beat them...yikes...

Ken, I gotta disagree with you. Yes there were times our players lost their one on one matchups but coaching could've mitigated that. No adjustments were made.

At this point the only possible hope is for the players to ignore their coaches entirely and to create their own scheme as an "adjustment" when the original plan isn't working. That's a terrible position to put your players in.