There was also a bad drop by Aaron Jones. The Cobb PI would have put them within 3 and given them a big chance to win for sure.

That missed call still sticks in my craw.

Hopefully he can be the younger more athletic version AR was when he began his trek to the HOF. Rodgers quick feet made him Houdini at times in his great escapes. Hope Love has some of that escapability.

Who says JL isn't a running QB? He may surprise us, pulling off some great escapes of his own. I'm hoping our O line keeps him clean so we never have to see that, but it's a long season ...

Stock, I'll give you plenty of clever credit for that.

As excited as we are to see this season unfold, can you imagine how Romeo must be feeling? He's put in additional work in a camp with JL10, stayed healthy, seems to be taking a big step forward :)

That's a great point! Let's see some comparisons between Love and other young GBs in instead of Love's predecessor. Would help with the Rodgers fatigue.

I think there’s a good chance that J Love will put up 2022 Rodgers numbers. I’m very excited about the this season’s team. Go Pack Go!

The only stat I care about is QBR, cuz that would mean Love is making big time plays when it counts i.e. 3rd downs, 4th qtr, and even running for 1st downs. QBR is the best and most comprehensive stat to see if a qb's play is leading to wins or not. Love could easily end up with the same td to int number but have a much higher qbr than Rodgers based on playing good situational football. Rodgers had the 26th ranked qbr last year. If Love is anywhere from 12-20, Packers will win this division. Take it to the bank.

I'm not even worried about that comparison. If the O line can dominate, this whole offense might just cook! We'll see what the coaches have been up to by how the team functions, we might all be surprised at who makes the final roster. There's a lot of competition for spots left ...

Eagles ran more cover 2 than anyone in football and led the league in sacks cuz they had 5 dlineman get 10+ sacks. They rarely blitzed. That was their base defense.

“Ol’ Rodge couldn’t do squat against the Eagles because they. we’re being mean to him, but they went easy on young Jordan.”

Yeah right. Will the excuse making for Rodgers ever end?

That developing as a unit, I really want to see that! This could be a core of superstars that dominate for a decade if this coaching staff gets that part right. By 2025 we might actually be contenders ...

LLCHESTY, I'm glad for your honest take on Love, especially as you want him to do better than you expect him to do.
I don't know whether or not Warner is a good evaluator, but as a player he is a good example for quarterbacks to follow in persevering through ups and downs to a career of excellence.

Yeah sure its all the ayahuasca. Had nothing to do with the decade of petulant behavior that coincided with a decade of not getting this team back to another super bowl. Btw, just cuz people have been doing it for a long time, doesnt make it good. Murder has been around since the beginning of man but you dont see me celebrating Rae Carruth.

LL,, I'm hoping we at least start the season putting as little as possible on our new QB; run first, pass to TE and RB, go to WR only when they're wide open. As they gel JL10 can maybe try to dazzle but if MLF just has him get Jimmy G competent first that should go a long way to establishing a team presence and identity on the field.

I think that approach would help everything. Now watch, they go for 70 yard bombs right out the gate, lol

"I'm sure I'll be shouted down by the optimists and the "I'm pissed because he took an hallucinogen used by people for 500 years."

I do not know why you put that quote, but there are numerous reasons why people would be concerned if your "main" player use any dope.

Every hallucinogen and any dope has side effects that linger for a long time. Some are less some more harmful. But 3 things are what can influence QB play - muscle coordination (that may not effect normal life use of muscules, but when you put that in extreme conditions it may become important!), eye vision (either by influence on dioptry or by narrowing peripheral vision), substantial brain influence (slowing down reactivity because brain process are slower).

From those 3 influence you need only one to occure to have huge influence on QB playing. Some of those influences can be restored to normal level by time, some never, some of those influence can hit not immediatelly, but with delay.

Only knowing hallucinogen organism will completelly detoxicate are marijuana, but it also take some time. Marijuana has, as difference from other hallucinogen some positive effects on organism, but I will not go in that direction.

Part of 5000 years of using substances as argument for what? For example opium was used on Far East and Middle East for even longer, heroin too. So, you'll say that is good when your most expensive asset can use heroin because people use heroin for 5000 years?

Sorry, not valid argument and you should not be pissed about fans' complaining on that issue.

Warner's assessment of Love was very positive overall. I recall one or two throws in which Warner said the footwork was not good. I personally did not notice Love's mechanics being "all over the map," and if Warner had noticed it, I think he would've mentioned it. The flat balls on deep throws was a bigger problem. Warner seems to think it's correctable, though.

I do agree that Love will throw more interceptions than Rodgers. That almost has to happen because Rodgers consistently threw fewer interceptions than virtually any other QB in history. I don't mind if Love throws a few more. Sometimes I thought Rodgers needed to take more chances. But it will be a problem if Love throws a lot of interceptions, especially if they are on shallower routes or in crucial parts of games.

Rodgers taking a hallucinogen is way down on the list of reasons why so many fans were ready for him to move on. It's more an example of bizarre behavior than obnoxious behavior, and there was plenty of obnoxious behavior.

The key is always footwork. Holmgren worked on Favre and had Mariucci on him 24/7. Rodgers had quick feet in college, but needed work on his release. I watched the same tutorial from Warner and saw the inefficiency with Love's positioning, but he seemed to have improved by the Philly game getting up on his toes with some bounce. Hopefully, Clements will clean the rest up by the end of Summer Session.

Love in college was more of a gunslinger than Rodgers was, and Rodgers, as we know, became more safety conscious over time. So even if Love becomes a hall of fame player, we are likely going to see an uptick in interceptions.

In his first year I expect mistakes and thus highs and lows, consistency comes only with time. It’s going to be up and down, good and bad. Things are going well if the bad starts to diminish in frequency over the season. I also expect struggles under pressure. Rodgers really struggled late in games when games were close in his first year, throwing 54% completions and more interceptions than TDs.

Rodgers comments in his later early years suggest he viewed that as learning how to win and felt that it was perhaps his biggest area of improvement in ‘09 and particularly 2010. Rodgers was damn good in year one aside of that, historically so. I’d expect Love to have similar struggles in those situations (let’s hope Barry finds a way to minimize them better than last year or Rodgers’ 2008 D could).

We need to remember that every other Super Bowl winning QB has consistently thrown more, most a lot more, interceptions than Rodgers. The Rodgers balance of risk or style if play is neither the norm or the only way to success as a QB and as a team. Nor is it necessarily the best watching. Love, good or bad, is going to be a different proposition and it’s time to accept that as well as the ups and downs of a first year starter we’ve not had to witness or really recall in 15 years.

Rodgers had 12 picks and 10 fumbles for a total of 22 turnovers. He did not have 22 interceptions, as the original post stated.

""I think his interceptions are 5p-60% higher than the 22 Rodgers had last"""
year.

I'm going to try to decode this and say that 5p was supposed to be 50. I'll also assume that the 22 was a typo as well, and he meant 12.

Only 6 QBs had more than 12 picks last year: Mills (15), Prescott, Cousins, Allen, Carr Ryan. So a 50% increase on Rodgers 12 would put Love at 18, making him the most careless QB in the league by kind of a wide margin.

This doesn't address the fumbles, of which Rodgers was charged with 10.

Here are some QBs who were NOT top 14 QBs last year (by QBR)

15: Trevor Lawrence
16. Jimmy Garrapolo
17. Justin Fields
18. Tom Brady.
19: Kyler Murray
20-25 Pickett, Dalton, Stafford, Cousins.
26 Matt Ryan
27 Aaron Rodgers.

That's the Cold, Hard, Football Facts. I'm going to say that based on this, it's probable that Love won't turn it over as often as Rodgers did, and that his QBR (which factors in running as well as passing) will be higher than 27th in the league)

So, Rodgers was 4th place among division QBs last year. I don't think Love will be worse than that.

Who cares, other than Rodgers knob slobberers? The job of the qb is to help score points. Maybe if Mr greatest everrrr focused more on scoring points than avoiding interceptions he’d have had another ring or two.

Late career Rodgers’ accuracy was decidedly less than awesome.