The Return of the Underwear Olympics
Does the Combine matter that much?
By GregMeinholz

General Managers, scouts, and coaching staff from all 32 NFL teams will descend on Indianapolis this week for the 2025 NFL Scouting Combine. On Sunday, players began arriving, and team interviews for defensive linemen, linebackers, and kickers already kicked off on Monday. Today, defensive backs, tight ends, running backs, quarterbacks, and wide receivers will begin interviews. The measurements and the on-field workouts will kick off with the first group on Thursday. Of course, it's those workouts and measurements all fans seem to pay attention to. Or as many have grown to call those workouts, "The Underwear Olympics."
That's right, essentially every draft prospect working out at the combine puts on a short-sleeve compression shirt or tank top and compression shorts and goes through the many drills required of their position. Since they're being judged on their speed and strength in many aspects during this time, not wearing the usual pads and helmets, but only what they would often wear underneath those, it's been referred to as "The Underwear Olympics." Given that a full set of pads, a helmet, and a real football situation might change those drill results a bit, many have come to ask the question, is the Scouting Combine pointless?
To truly answer that question, you need to evaluate everything that goes on at the Combine. Sure, there are the workouts that many General Managers and Scouts will be attending. But there are also the team interviews, the media interviews, medical exams, and the discussions between teams as well as player agents. When a team like the Green Bay Packers is interviewing a player, they aren't just asking about a player's experiences on the field. They're asking questions to evaluate whether or not a player fits their team culture or how they might fit the community. Only an inexperienced staff drafts players based on skill alone. If a player has the skill a team is looking for, they then have to judge how that player fits in with the rest of the locker room. Players looking out for themselves only, preferring individual accolades over team success, or those that only pay attention to their job over helping those around them, may not fit very well into a tight-knit locker room. If the player being interviewed may need a bit of time to develop, it's important to evaluate how they learn. Would they respond well to the teaching philosophies of the coaching staff currently available or not? If not, the team may take a pass on them on draft day regardless of talent.
Media interviews. You may think of this as nothing but sensationalism, but it actually might matter a bit in the draft process. Prospects may think that these are nothing more than Q&As to help fans learn more about them, but teams are watching. They want to see how players react to many of the bland questions that can be asked in a media session, and also some of the completely ridiculous questions. Not only does a team want a player that can easily handle the media hoopla, but they also want one that isn't phased by the outside talk. If a player seems visibly irritated or flustered with questions in media interviews, that may raise a red flag in the books of some GMs.
Medical Exams. Teams are investing millions of dollars in each player they draft. Even if it's "Mr. Irrelevant" the final player picked in the draft, they are expected to land a rookie deal of just above $4 million. They want to make sure there are no medical concerns with their picks. And if there are, they want the opportunity to judge if they can live with it or not, or get it corrected before the next season starts. The thing about the Combine is that all of these players are taking these exams in one place and it's all quickly available to each NFL team. It isn't like having to track down an exam from a doctor in a city they can't pronounce the name of let alone trust if it's accurate or not. Of course, some prospects will decline the exam, and teams will need to track them down, but for the majority of eligible players, it's all there.
Team-to-team discussions. This can be where alliances are forged and strengthened. You hear about GMs having connections around the league. Sometimes it's from working with other staff members over the years but others it's friendships made at the Scouting Combine. GMs will compare notes and explore trade options early. This can also be handy when it comes to running a smokescreen. Say two friendly GMs have their eyes on different specific prospects in the first round. They may agree to interview each other's targets and then swap notes so that the overall consensus doesn't show they were interested in that prospect. The Packers did not interview Jordan Morgan predraft in 2024 before selecting him in the first round, but six other teams did interview him. Perhaps there's a chance there's an unknown alliance between Gutekunst and one of those six GMs.
Agent talks. These can be interesting. Of course, many of these NFL draft prospects are represented by the same agencies as players currently in the NFL. And you bet those agents are in attendance at the Combine. Just before the draft is free agency and the Combine is often a favorite origin for planting the seed of negotiations. Agents will inform teams of a player's interest in talking to them and likewise. This can also assist with trades evaluating whether or not a player will want to play for a team they are traded to.
Lots of value is had outside of the workouts, but are the workouts still necessary?

The Drills Still Matter
Believe it or not, poor performance at the Combine can still impact a player's draft stock. Hence why we see top prospects elect not to take part in the workout portions of the combine. They know that their game film speaks for itself and places them high in the ranks and they don't want anything to jeopardize those chances. Some think it raises a red flag that they have something to hide, but in reality, it's mainly a business decision to protect their interest. They don't believe they have anything to gain by working out but have everything to lose, so they opt out.
Combine workouts shouldn't be viewed as evaluations of a player's capabilities but more of a validation of what scouts have already seen. If a receiver's route cuts are easily beating defenders and they're running right by the secondary on tape, teams may want to see if they really are as quick and agile as they appear. If they're not making cuts very quickly in drills and their 40-time is lacking, then perhaps they've benefited from some slower defenders in their college career and they aren't truly that fast. But if an Edge rusher is turning the corner quickly in drills, then perhaps they really are as quick as advertised. Drills just serve as confirmation of skill. There shouldn't be too many headline-making surprises in the workouts. If there are, then perhaps scouts weren't paying attention to some prospects.
So while the Combine and the "Underwear Olympics" may seem like the NFL just trying to grab your attention for another week, it does serve a purpose. That purpose is to plant the seed for the future of your franchise. Through future prospects, future free agents, trade targets, coaches, all of it matters in the grand scheme of it all. The next NFL season and possibly several others after starts with the Scouting Combine.
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Greg Meinholz is a lifelong devoted Packer fan. A contributor to CheeseheadTV as well as PackersTalk. Follow him on Twitter @gmeinholz and Bluesky @gmeinholz.bsky.social for Packers commentary, random humor, beer endorsements, and occasional Star Wars and Marvel ramblings.
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Comments (18)
T7Steve
February 25, 2025 at 10:11 am
The more they get to know them the more they confident they can be in their picks. How horrifying is the responsibility to have to make those picks? Those GMs earn everything they get because three days in the spring dictates a franchise for seasons to come.
dobber
February 25, 2025 at 10:58 am
It seems that the all-star games have taken on greater meaning for Gute and the Packers. They draw heavily from kids who play there and under the Packers' coaches who work the games.
Leatherhead
February 25, 2025 at 12:52 pm
For some of these players, a lot of their snaps have come against guys who'll be teaching High School PE. In the all star games, you get to see them against a higher level of competition.
HarryHodag
February 25, 2025 at 10:18 am
Waste of time. Mike Sherman had it right when he fell asleep in the stands.
Cheezehead72
February 25, 2025 at 11:45 am
Mike Sherman really
13TimeChamps
February 25, 2025 at 11:49 am
"Mike Sherman had it right "
Words that prove even a blind squirrel can find a nut every once in a while.
Turophile
February 25, 2025 at 04:59 pm
Yeah. Mike Sherman was so good at drafting, he traded up to get a punter in round 3 (B.J.Sander). Sander didn't start in his rookie year, had a poor season in his second year - and was gone at the end of it.
Ah, those painful memories from the vaults.................
stockholder
February 25, 2025 at 10:49 am
Matter ? Yes for some. For others No.
This draft lacks star material.
Who can start, who can't.
Money first, testing second.
The agents are too involved.
Oh and don't forget those Try outs.
Or college testing.
Free Agency has changed everything.-
jannesbjornson
February 25, 2025 at 04:35 pm
The track meet is getting to be olde news. If a big guy doesn't show up for the bench press, don't draft him.
GregC
February 25, 2025 at 11:32 am
The NFL wouldn't go to all this trouble if they didn't get something out of it, right? Right? But when I see the whole event broken down into all of its parts like this, I'm inclined to think that the workouts are only a small part of it. Their main value is to give less well-regarded players a chance to increase their draft standing. And that happens every year.
I'm just glad to have something to read about. If there's a player I want the Packers to draft, I hope he tests well, but not so well that the Packers won't get a chance to draft him.
dobber
February 25, 2025 at 11:36 am
If anything, the Combine is good for interviews and getting medicals checked out. Allowing guys who got hurt to show they're healthy.
I find it both funny and annoying when players--especially marginal or obscure ones--test really well and the DIC shoots those guys up draft boards and claims everything changes...as if scouts didn't already know what they need to know on these guys.
GregC
February 25, 2025 at 12:22 pm
A quick check of the Internet reveals articles on numerous well-known sites about players who may increase their draft standing with good workouts at the combine. You really think this is all BS? Hard to believe.
I think one thing the combine has going for it is that it is every player's first NFL event. They are on a big stage with big money at stake. Don't you think there is something to be learned from how they prepare and how they perform in that situation, as they are on the verge of becoming full-fledged professional athletes?
Cheezehead72
February 25, 2025 at 12:39 pm
Many of these players have already been on the big stage. They play in front of crowds bigger than they will in the NFL. Many college stadiums are bigger and yes they are on national TV. Oh and with the NIL they are making big money.
Leatherhead
February 25, 2025 at 05:56 pm
Greg, I've seen people fall after the combine as often as I've seen a dramatic upswing. Watch the boards over the next few weeks and you'll see a big reshuffling, and some guys fall quite a bit. Maybe they ran poorly, or maybe the interview didn't help, whatever.
LLCHESTY
February 25, 2025 at 05:23 pm
And yet teams still move guys up their boards after the combine. Savage was considered a 3rd or 4th rounder before the combine, as was Dillard. Aaron Donald was climbing because of his outstanding Senior Bowl but his freakish testing pushed him into the top half of the 1st round.
Cheezehead72
February 25, 2025 at 11:49 am
This goes along with dobber's comment.
The workouts are the means for the NFL to make money off of the combine. The workouts have little impact on the GMs and scouts as they have the tape oh yes I'm sorry the bytes to review over and over.
crayzpackfan
February 25, 2025 at 01:49 pm
Some 3rd round prospect with high character who interviews really well suddenly blasts off a 4.3 forty time and is now late 1 early 2nd.
But you are right, it gives us all new material to consume until FA time.
Leatherhead
February 25, 2025 at 12:55 pm
I think that the Combine is so that you can confirm what you've already seen on tape. Yes, some guys can improve their stock with a good showing, and maybe send you back to the film room for more study. In essence, I think the Packers have a short list of people they're looking at.....maybe about 20-30 guys....and they'll interview them. If somebody makes a big impression, he might get added to the prospect folder.