The Lass Word: The Numbers Are Encouraging
Stats show Pack is still ascending.
By KenLass

The Green Bay Packers got significantly better in 2024, compared to the previous season. It may be hard to appreciate in light of the team stumbling to a pair of consecutive bad losses to end the regular season, but the numbers don’t lie.
OFFENSE
The transition from a predominantly passing offense to a power running attack is evident in the final stats. In 2023 the Packers rushed for a total of 1,905 yards, which ranked fifteenth in the league. In 2024 Green Bay finished the regular season with nearly 600 more yards on the ground. Their total was 2,496, which ranked fifth in the league. The most dramatic increase was in rushing touchdowns. Last season the Pack rushed for just ten scores, which put them 23rd in the league. This year, led by the bruising style of Josh Jacobs, Green Bay more than doubled that total, running the ball into the end zone 23 times, fifth best in the NFL
Interestingly, though the number of total passing yards dropped from 3,968 last year to 3,807 this season, the team’s passing rank compared to the rest of the league stayed the same (twelfth). Green Bay quarterbacks threw 28 touchdown passes this season, down from 32 last year. Jordan Love’s passer rating and completion percentage were basically flat. His rating this year was 96.7, compared to 96.1 last season. His completion percentage this year was 61, a slight dip from 62 in 2023.
Green Bay quarterbacks threw eleven interceptions this year. Love threw all of them. That is the same total as last season. The offense had 19 total turnovers, just one more than last year (18).
In the most important category, there was substantial improvement. The Packers scored a total of 460 points this season, eighth best in the league, up sharply from 383, which ranked twelfth last season.
DEFENSE
The fact that Jeff Hafley’s unit failed several times in critical moments at the end of games obscures the reality that the defense made remarkable improvement in 2024. The team went from 17th to 5th in total defense. It went from 10th to 6th in total points allowed. The defense improved from 26th to 4th in number of turnovers forced. Xavier McKinney’s eight interceptions led the way, just one shy of the franchise single season record of nine, co-held by Charles Woodson and Darren Sharper.
There was a bit of a slippage in their defense against the pass. The Packers dropped from 9th last year to 13th against the pass. Perhaps the absence of Jaire Alexander for most of the season, and a rash of other injuries to defensive backs, was a factor.
However, the unit made a gigantic improvement in defending the run, soaring from a pathetic 28th last season, to a more than respectable 7th this year. Green Bay pass rushers sacked the quarterback 45 times, exactly the same amount as last season.
SPECIAL TEAMS
Brandon McManus finished second in the NFL with a field goal success percentage of 95.2. He made 20 out of 21 attempts. He was a perfect three for three from 50 yards or beyond. He made good on thirty out of thirty extra points.
Last year Anders Carlson’s field goal percentage was 81.8. which was 24th in the NFL. He made 27 of 33 attempts, and was three of five from fifty yards plus. He missed a league high five extra points.
Daniel Whelan’s punting averages improved slightly but still rank among the lowest in the league. He averaged 46.1 yards per punt, ranking 27th. His net yards average was 39.6, which ranked 29th. As humble as those numbers are, they were still an improvement over 2023, when Whelan finished 31st in net yards.
Kickoff and punt return stats are becoming increasingly meaningless because of the sparsity of kicks that are actually returned. For what it’s worth, Keisean Nixon averaged 29.3 yards on 18 kickoff returns this year, compared to 26.1 on 30 returns last year. Jayden Reed averaged 7.9 yards on 14 punt returns, compared to 8.5 yards on 11 returns in 2023. There were no kicks returned for touchdowns this season.
SUMMARY
The Packers finished 2024 with a significant two game improvement in their record, going from 9-8 last season to 11-6 this year. Normally, that would be cause for celebration. Unfortunately, two other teams in their division had historic seasons. The Detroit Lions went 15-2, the most wins in a season in franchise history, and the Minnesota Vikings logged a 14-3 mark, their most wins in 26 years. The Packers finished as the number seven seed for the post season, which was the same as last year. Green Bay did improve one notch overall in the conference, finishing with the fifth best record in the NFC, after tying for the sixth best mark last year.
Regardless of what happens when Green Bay takes on the Eagles in Sunday’s wild card round, the numbers indicate the Green Bay Packers were still an ascending team in 2024. If the franchise makes similar improvement next year, they should be in solid Super Bowl contention.
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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.
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Comments (53)
NickPerry
January 09, 2025 at 04:54 pm
"Brandon McManus finished second in the NFL with a field goal success percentage of 95.2. He made 20 out of 21 attempts. He was a perfect three for three from 50 yards or beyond. He made good on thirty out of thirty extra points.
Last year Anders Carlson’s field goal percentage was 81.8. which was 24th in the NFL. He made 27 of 33 attempts, and was three of five from fifty yards plus. He missed a league high five extra points."
If Gutey doesn't make McManus a Priority FA Signing then I'm going to start having problems with Gute. I've been a big supporter of Gutey in spite of his 1st round bombs and 3rd round busts. But after last season with Carlson, and several games this season with the Narverson, WHY screw around?
Sign the man NOW!
barutanseijin
January 09, 2025 at 05:13 pm
And don’t sign the long snapper. Enough already.
SicSemperTyrannis
January 10, 2025 at 04:50 am
That was painfully obvious last season 😖
NJ-RICK
January 09, 2025 at 07:18 pm
Sorry but I have already given up on Gute to many misses in the draft and free agency. Time for a new GM...
BA4Pack
January 09, 2025 at 10:07 pm
Shirley you jest!
dobber
January 10, 2025 at 09:05 am
He isn't jesting...
...and don't call him Shirley.
bjkdad44
January 09, 2025 at 10:56 pm
I agree 100%!
bjkdad44
January 09, 2025 at 10:55 pm
It’s a thumbs down vote for me on Gute…
SicSemperTyrannis
January 10, 2025 at 04:49 am
Of all the no brainers, this is the no brainiest. Without this kicker GB would have a substantially worse record.
Ok the last two games could have resulted in a respectable 3-3 in the division, and an excellent 13-3 season. Those losses are obviously NOT on the kicker. While it's not so easy to simply get rid of those people you might (foolishly) pin those losses on, KEEP everyone doing everything right!
Leatherhead
January 09, 2025 at 05:04 pm
OK, I'm on board with the general sentiment. We have transitioned from the HOF QB passing attack of the last 30 years, and we do run over and around people. We'll see if we can do it in the playoffs, because that's what will matter. . The repeated offensive misfires are concerning and will be fatal if they continue. You simply cannot go on the road against a good team and make a bunch of mistakes and win. If we have any chance against Philly, we're going to need to put some points on the board.
It's playoff time, and what do you do best?? In Green Bay's case, we run the ball and have some success throwing downfield. That's what this team does best on offense. If we do that, and protect the ball, we'll win. If we can't do what we do best, we're done for the season.
Bitternotsour
January 09, 2025 at 06:14 pm
Vic Fangio is relying on those same observations and will tailor his defense to address our strengths. Will MLF be prepared to answer is the question.
White92
January 09, 2025 at 06:27 pm
I was hoping Fangio would come to GB. Oh well. My confidence in MLF out coaching anyone is about zero. Maybe he figures it out this time? Sure hope so.
13TimeChamps
January 09, 2025 at 08:21 pm
Ok weird off topic question. I've noticed almost anytime LH makes a post, you respond within a very short time, almost always supporting him. Do you guys have some weird bat signal or something to let you know when he posts something? Curious minds...you know. It's not bad, just kind of interesting how in tune you guys are. Kind of.......well nevermind.
crayzpackfan
January 10, 2025 at 08:13 am
It does sort of have a lapdog kinda feel to it. But I noticed this too. They're silly that way I guess. Or maybe they are the same person?
Bitternotsour
January 10, 2025 at 08:52 am
I search out comments and have conversations with a few folks. There are about six people I do this with, including Coldworld, Oppy, Leatherhead, t7 Steve, the irrepressible Leotis Harris and a few others. I either agree or disagree with them, but find them well-reasoned and defensible in their positions. It's how I use the board. Conversationally.
That and to respond to stupid. I don't like stupid.
dobber
January 10, 2025 at 09:09 am
Yup. There are people who I go straight to their comments when they show up on the "recents" list. And it may be because we tend to be wired the same ways, or because they provide intellectual or humorous insights. My desk job and timing allows me to check in regularly, too (without getting fired).
There are some commenters, of course, that I bypass no matter what.
Bitternotsour
January 10, 2025 at 09:47 am
you are on my list, forgive that omission. i have the luxury of being retired, and these conversations provide some entertainment in the course of the day. As a born Wisconsinite my birthright is the Packers. Despite participating in the 1970's diaspora, the Packer DNA abides.
Leatherhead
January 10, 2025 at 10:31 am
Me too. There are some people who I go straight to their comments as well. And then, there are also these virtue signalling Karens who like to talk about other posters, even to the point where it's obvious they're obsessed. I wish they would go away.
bjkdad44
January 09, 2025 at 10:58 pm
Nope… probably not!
barutanseijin
January 10, 2025 at 06:48 pm
Vic Fangio has been vanquished many a time.
bjkdad44
January 09, 2025 at 10:57 pm
And they will have to all of a sudden… get rid of the dumbass mistakes they usually make…
LLCHESTY
January 09, 2025 at 11:17 pm
The last thing you want to do against Fangio is try and go down field. They basically give you the short completions so be patient and take them. LaFleur needs to have Love cool, calm and collected this week. Load the bases and then look for the home runs.
Bitternotsour
January 10, 2025 at 08:54 am
hmmm. just like Joe Barry. odd, no.
LLCHESTY
January 10, 2025 at 09:38 am
You mean just like Joe Barry if Joe Barry could coach. Being an acolyte of the man doesn't make you the man.
LambeauPlain
January 10, 2025 at 03:03 pm
Fangio plays zone prevent galore. Unlike Barry, he adjusts his coverages during game planning to the specific team ahead...and actually adjusts during the game.
Barry Ball is as fixed as a 30 year Treasury Note.
dobber
January 10, 2025 at 09:10 am
He has good cover CB. They can play coverage and let pressure take over.
LLCHESTY
January 10, 2025 at 09:44 am
Wahle said you can take the 7 yard outs on Slay all day. Can you can you consistently do enough on 1st down to be able to take what they give five times on a drive? Most teams just can't stay on schedule against a very talented defense. The Packers with their drops and dumb penalties probably can't either but there's always a chance.
SicSemperTyrannis
January 10, 2025 at 04:54 am
The run game is supposed to set up the pass, or vice versa. That hasn't been happening, at least per my eye. Is it that the run game and air attack are "disjointed?" I dunno but they certainly aren't seamless. I don't know if any opponents have been truly fooled by whether a given play will be a run or a pass?
We all wanted at least 50% run plays when JL10 first started starting. Now he has it. Time to put this concept IN GEAR and be unpredictable. (Also utilize TEs as playmakers a bazillion times more)
GPG!!
Coldworld
January 09, 2025 at 07:03 pm
You cite significant improvement then essentially describe stasis on O and D. The exception being more rushing yards. Jones missed the majority of the season last year. Jacobs didn’t. Wilson put up 500 yards. That was an upgrade in Dillon. That and kicking aside, which is clearly true, we essentially plateaued this season and that’s what your stats show.
BA4Pack
January 09, 2025 at 10:10 pm
Ummm…
The D got better.
SicSemperTyrannis
January 10, 2025 at 04:59 am
Significantly!
Pass completion % did not. And needs to.
Coldworld
January 10, 2025 at 07:58 am
The D is more encouraging. The run D improved, so did turnovers, but the passing D has taken a step back. I regard the signs as positive, if we can stop the tendency to go soft at key moments, but the pass rush went backwards significantly.
I’m hoping the off season helps adjust to the new system, but in terms of overall performance I see it and the stats cited as representing essentially a wash over the regular season. I see it as one with more future potential as Hafley gains experience and after we retool our DE room, but mostly equivalent to date.
Leatherhead
January 10, 2025 at 10:33 am
Going from 9-8 to 11-6 is a plateau. And if we go to 13-4 next year, that'll be a continuation of the plateau, right?
canadapacker
January 10, 2025 at 02:55 pm
The NFL stands for Not For Long - and next year we already know that we are playing the 3rd ranked teams next season and some of the opponents had really bad records this year. So we should necessarily at least be ranked as a Playoff team. Just need to do what we used to do - take care of our own division opponents. As far as the Phillie game is concerned - we will just have to play the same way as we did to start the season against them and make sure that we stop Barkley and Brown
Oppy
January 09, 2025 at 10:01 pm
Whereas net and average kick off yardage are meaningful stats in isolation for a KO specialist- because all kick offs occur from the same position on the field- net and average punt yardage has never been meaningful statistics in a vacuum because every punt attempt is taken from a different part of the field.
If you have two punters with identical leg talent, and drop one on a team with better offense, and one on a team with a weaker offense, it is likely that the punter on the team with the more anemic offense will accrue a larger average punt distance because if the offense stalled out on their own 30, he's got 70 yards of field to punt into, whereas the punter with a more potent offense that gets out to midfield more frequently is only giving him 50 yards of field to work with.
For analyzing punters, you really want to include percentage of punts inside 20, inside 10, etc and so forth, as well as average field position from which they had to punt.
It's not nearly as easy as assessing the KO specialists, but looking at only net and average punt yardage is not nearly enough to determine the type of punter Whelan is.
SicSemperTyrannis
January 10, 2025 at 05:59 am
Whelan's a HERO!
Which is not the greatest statement about the team as a whole.
GregC
January 10, 2025 at 06:51 am
The Lions had the best offense in the league, and their punter, Daniel Fox, had the best gross and net average in the league. He had 22 punts inside the 20--the same number as #24 ranked Daniel Whelan.
The #2 and #3 punters in net average, Logan Cook of Jacksonville and Tommy Townsend of Houston, had 34 and 39 punts inside the 20-yard-line: the fourth and second-most in the league, respectively.
So your theory is taking some pretty big hits right off the bat.
Coldworld
January 10, 2025 at 08:11 am
I’m perfectly fine with Whelan. He’s pointing outside more than a fine team punter, which is a factor. He’s also an excellent holder. He had a couple of down games, but has also had ones where he’s tilted the field. He’s also good at adapting to bad snaps as a punter as well as a holder. No issue there, and I’d expect him to still improve for a year or two.
dobber
January 10, 2025 at 09:18 am
I tend to agree that punters and the punt game are hard to compare from team to team.
Half of Fox's punts were inside the 20 (he had the fewest punts in the league, total) and he had a tremendous net average, but you have to consider that the offensive philosophy of the Lions--who don't often have 4th and long--is to go for it on 4th down in positive field position (and they have a kicker with a pretty long range) which eliminates a lot of short-field punting. That being the case, the punter is often looking and long, open fields for most of his punt attempts. Fox also has a very low return average which is in part coverage and also hang time. He's a good punter.
Oppy
January 11, 2025 at 12:26 am
Detroit is the most aggressive team on 4th down in the league. Campbell is likely to go for it on 4th&4 before he even crosses the 50 in some situations. The Lions have to be pinned back deep and way behind the sticks before it's a given they're punting, and I'd assume their average field position they punt from is probably deeper than most teams as a result, regardless of their excellent offense, due to that 4th down aggression.
As far as Houston and Jacksonville, both teams are bottom half of the league in total offense, and both kicking talent and coverage unit talent are real things. I'm not sure how my deduction that a punter that punts more frequently from further away from the end zone has more opportunity to amass gross and net punt yardage is taking a 'pretty big hit' by the data you're presenting here. What I've presented isn't an assumption, it's just a fact. That doesn't mean that every punter who punts more frequently from further away from the end zone -will- amass more net and gross yardage- because leg talent, coverage unit prowess, and the opposing return teams prowess all factor in. However, it's undeniable you can't gain yardage that isn't there to gain.
Oppy
January 09, 2025 at 10:46 pm
My belief is that the Packers run defense stiffened as a result of two things; 1) The Packers were 31st in blitz percentage in 2024, and 2) Defenders on the edge were far more disciplined in their contain duties that in previous years.
Packers' reduced blitz percentage was probably- again, IMO- a result of Hafley trying to keep as much help for pass defense available as possible with the loss of Jaire and other uncertainties in CB room throughout the year.
Here's another one for your consideration; my belief is that the Packers' being 'soft in the middle of the field' vs. the pass was not a weakness they couldn't fix, but rather, a calculated concession by Hafley. Lacking the horsepower at CB pretty much all season to match up 1:1 on dominant #1 Wrs, I believe Hafley made the decision to defend the perimeters at all costs with safety help spit wide and live with soft zones in the middle of the field. I believe this was a decision made for geometric reasons- angle of attack so to speak.
If you get beat deep on the perimeter, half the defenders on the field are 100% out of the play- they simply aren't in proximity to catch up and stop the explosive gain. It's usually down to the beaten corner's recovery speed, or a deep safety's angle of attack, to stop the big play from turning into a hemorrhaging TD.
If you get beat deep in the middle of the field, generally speaking all of your fastest defenders have angles of attack to the ball carrier- they at least have a 50/50 chance of being remotely in on the play. DBs from either side of the field have a fighting chance at swarming to the ball carrier and making the stop. Maybe even a LB can get a chance at the stop (who's probably the guy who got beat to begin with).
Coldworld
January 10, 2025 at 08:15 am
I’m not buying into the calculated risk theory. The calculation was seemingly wrong for too long. It also encompasses plays where the backs are well behind the needed gain Line. The seems to me look like the avoid the big play approach we’ve seen for years . That’s fine in theory, as long as they need a big play in the first place, and as long as it works more often than not, but too often it does not for us and in fact opens the opposing offense up.
If we went to it after we got burnt on the perimeter, that might lend credence to it. However, we never have been burnt outside really since Jaire went out and we have been burnt consistently inside. We go to it to try and slow scoring and typically see opposing offenses accelerate over what we’ve done before. The saving grace is that we don’t go to it quite as readily as under Barry. When we do, at least we’ve been better at S, so the acceleration had been less extreme.
Bitternotsour
January 10, 2025 at 09:03 am
you can't stop everything. you try to take away the strength of the team in front of you. philosophically MLF teams want to stop splash plays. regardless of the coordinator. MLF wants a Fangio style defense (at least theoretically) because he's data driven and the fastest way to lose in the NFL is to give up big gains thru the air and on the ground.
the issue in my mind is the defense did bring down the points per game, which is huge, but the offense (MLF's forte) hasn't carried it's weight.
Oppy
January 11, 2025 at 12:02 am
If you're saying that the Packers not having been beat on the edges much after Jaire went down is why you think my proposal isn't feasible, you didn't understand the concept at all.
Leatherhead
January 10, 2025 at 11:47 am
Oppy, I think that's an interesting theory, deeply rooted in the fact that you can't stop everything all the time, so you make choices. It's better to prevent those long, perimeter completions, even if it makes it easier to complete stuff over the middle, because you at least have an opportunity to make a tackle on the receiver. AND, you have to play with what you have, and we don't have Woodson and Adderley at CB, so you choose to defend the perimeter at all costs, even if those costs involve completions over the middle. Concede the catch and focus on driving the receiver into the ground like a tent peg. Maybe he'll think twice next time.
bjkdad44
January 09, 2025 at 10:54 pm
The kickers deserve to be commended!… they did awesome!
SicSemperTyrannis
January 10, 2025 at 04:45 am
I wanna see COOPER on the field with #7! In the 4-3 front, who's the third linebacker? My vote is for Eric Wilson, and AS THE MIKE. Also with the green dot. While I love Isaiah McDuffie, with 56 & 7 as the Sam and Will I think Wilson is the better choice for that application.
I'm allowed to be wrong. MLF may not agree with me; maybe Hafley doesn't either. It'll be interesting to see! Here's hoping we get a whole postseason out of Evan Williams, too. And Bull 🍻
GPG!!
dobber
January 10, 2025 at 09:20 am
I think we'll see McDuffie on first down for his run support and ability to fill, but he'll come off the field for an extra DB in passing situations, I think. Wilson may not get a lot of snaps this week with Walker back.
Razer
January 10, 2025 at 08:42 am
Stats can tell a lot of stories and people often use them as rose colored glasses. If we want a competitive team that keeps the fan base buying tickets then mission accomplished. If you want a team that is a serious contender for the Superbowl then we need to take those glasses off. D-line and O-line are not good enough nor is our secondary or WR corps. Add a coaching staff that just can't seem to make anything consistent with the sum of the parts and you have our Packers.
I will cheer this weekend and send up the "any given Sunday" prayer and hope that they give me something to hang on to. We'll see what the stats say. Go Packers
Strat
January 11, 2025 at 02:14 pm
The organization needs to think like this. Numbers can lie. They're a pacifier that will do just what you said, keep the seats full. But I know what I see. The staff is disorganized and unprepared followed by the same B.S. excuses. They're trying to sell the overall talent level as being better than it is. It isn't.
The over the top "GPG choir" seems to be ok with making the playoffs and losing, even if it's "one and done." Repeatedly losing in the playoffs means nothing more than you're not good enough to compete for the Lombardi Trophy. Just like the Bills are known for losing four Super Bowls in a row. Nobody is impressed.
Yes, go Packers.
TXCHEESE
January 10, 2025 at 10:57 am
I can live with Whelan's punt numbers. The dude is a rock solid holder and has great hands handling the bad snaps. Plus, he rarely just shanks a punt.
These guys just need to trust themselves and cut it loose and make a play. No tomorrows in the playoffs unless you vanquish the foe.
GPG!
Leatherhead
January 10, 2025 at 11:21 am
People think the punter is the holder, but it's probably better to think of it as the holder who is the punter. Whelan has had 53 punts, none blocked, all of them hit pretty well, about 40% of them inside the 20. But as a holder, he's been part of 84 placement kicks that have resulted in 115 points.
He's been a machine as a holder, and a pretty good punter, too. It's rare that he doesn't handle the snap and get off a good punt. Green Bay isn't the easiest place to punt a football and he didn't screw us once. All for about $1M. That's a win.
LambeauPlain
January 10, 2025 at 03:09 pm
I view Whelan as one of the best ST players on the team. Consistent and productive.
As far as his punts, the big return last week no doubt helped crater his net punt average.
He's a keeper along with McManus.