The Lass Word: Gutey's Offer to Jones Was Not Sincere

Front office had to know Jones would move on.

Trains of thought after a furious first week of NFL free agency: 

 

“Yeah, absolutely, we'd love to have Aaron back. We're still putting all those things together as we move forward, but he was such a difference maker when he was out there this year.....It's our anticipation that he'll be back.”  -- Brian Gutekunst on Aaron Jones 

The lesson to be learned here is always take what a head coach or general manager says in a news conference with a grain of salt.  They are usually going to say what they know their followers want to hear, but often it is completely at odds with their true plans. 

You don’t offer your star running back a 76 percent salary cut (from $17 million to $4 million) if you seriously anticipate having him back.  Gutekunst knew the market.  Knew Aaron Jones would get a better offer elsewhere.  Could easily have matched or bettered the seven million dollar deal Jones got in Minnesota.  The Packers simply did not want Jones back.  This is why I try never to get emotionally attached to individual players.  I like that Gutekunst is not afraid to make a bold move if he thinks it will improve the team.  But his media Q & A sessions can often be pure propaganda.

-- Speaking of popular players, bringing back AJ Dillon makes little sense to me.  He is the same kind of back as the newly signed Josh Jacobs, but not nearly as good.  As a number two back, he won’t offer any kind of change of pace.  The move tells me the Packers don’t really like any of the running backs in the upcoming draft.  Maybe they think Emanuel Wilson can be their slasher.   

-- Six million per year for Keisean Nixon?  The Packers need to upgrade the slot corner position, but at that salary level, Nixon is being paid like a starter.  Gutekunst must really value what the veteran DB brings to the table in the kick return game.  He’s led the league in kick return yardage two years in a row.  But that’s a bit deceptive considering there are so few returns even attempted these days.  The league is pondering rule changes to bring the kickoff return back, but even so, that seems a bit rich for a player who is mediocre at best in the defensive backfield. 

-- Former Green Bay linebacker De’Vondre Campbell took to X Sunday morning to insist he has not trashed the Packer organization on his way out, and has no ill feelings toward the fans or his fellow players. He did, however, trash his defensive coaches, whom he accused of putting both himself and Quay Walker in strategic positions that did not work. He said that the Packers’ defense played better at the end of the season because he was meeting personally with head coach Matt LaFleur and urging him to make the defense more aggressive. I took it as affirmation of what we already knew, that former DC Joe Barry simply couldn’t, or wouldn’t, design game plans tailored to his personnel, and his players were frustrated because of it. Are you listening Jeff Hafley?  

-- I’m just a fan, so my ability to evaluate an NFL football player is pretty limited.  But other NFL players know talent when they see it.  It was meaningful that both Josh Jacobs and Xavier McKinney mentioned that one of the reasons they chose to sign with Green Bay was the presence of Jordan Love.  That tells you Love is a bona fide franchise quarterback.  Players around the league recognize it and want to be part of it. I can’t help recalling the words of Aaron Rodgers, during his time in Green Bay, saying “players want to play here because of me”.  Looks like players want to play here now for a different reason. Also good to know prediction sites think Jacobs is an upgrade from Jones.

-- I knew the market for Bears quarterback Justin Fields was weak, but wow. They couldn’t do better than a sixth round conditional pick from the Steelers? If Fields meets a certain amount of playing time, the pick upgrades to fourth round, but even then, remember Chicago gave up two first rounders, a fourth and a fifth rounder to move up nine spots to draft Fields at number eleven in 2021. This has to go down as one of the biggest misses in franchise history. Now they start over again with Caleb Williams. At least the front office is not repeating the mistake of putting a rookie signal caller out there with no supporting talent, as they did with Fields. The Bears will surround Williams with D’Andre Swift, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore and tight end Gerald Everett. Will be fascinating to see how they manage to mess this up. 

-- The Vikings are going to put an interesting team out on the field in 2024.  They are really going to test the tenet that you can’t win in the NFL without a franchise quarterback.  Minnesota is going to wind up starting either Sam Darnold, or a rookie they move up to take in the draft.  However, they will surround their starter with an impressive cast of talent.  Aaron Jones at running back, Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison at the receiver spots, TJ Hockenson at tight end.  You can make the argument that every one of those players is a top ten to top five performer.  Can you win games in this league with a young or mediocre quarterback who just needs to get the ball to these stars?  You can bet many other franchises will be watching. 

-- I don’t relish the thought of watching our Packers defense trying to stop Aaron Jones twice this coming season.  But as hard as that will be, I will have an even tougher time seeing Simone Biles wearing a Chicago Bears sweatshirt.  I would have re-signed her husband Jonathan Owens just to keep that from happening.   

 

 

 

 

 

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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.

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Packers0808's picture

March 18, 2024 at 06:51 am

Not much to agree with in this article for me.

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Spock's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:03 am

KInd of have to agee Po8o8, I thought the "Insincere" reference was pretty tacky and the rest of Ken's column not really worth reading. Ken usually has better fare than this, maybe he's just having an "off" day?

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SpikeHyzer's picture

March 18, 2024 at 06:10 pm

Probably shouldn't re-sign Ken either.
He's showing signs of being intellectually injury prone. Might not be just one bad game.

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dblbogey's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:01 am

I'm wondering if Ken was body snatched by Stockholder the way this was written.

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Turophile's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:18 am

My thinking is the same as Packers0808.

There is a general value for a player and there is a value specific to the team. The important one is the specific one - it is what this team is willing to pay for an older RB with considerable injury risks. The health risk was obviously deemed high and was reflected in the offer. One aspect that is seldom considered is the way Jones contract was handled in the past, with money pushed into the future to leave Gute with a problem when the cap hit this year is inflated to $17m

To call the offer insincere is triggering and emotional rubbish. It simply is what it is and if it is too low in your opinion (and to Jones + Rosehaus), then a deal can be found elsewhere, which it was.

The best ability is availability and the Packers value that. Past performance is only a part of the money equation. The Packers are able to separate themselves from fans love of the player and make a tough decision. We still love Aaron Jones (even in purple) but aging players with a higher injury risk often get a somewhat brutal offer and this is no exception.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 22, 2024 at 04:05 pm

We seem to be concerned with semantics and/or tone, here. All I know is that $4M base with $2M incentives was substantially less than the market. It seemed like a non-starter to me, but if I squint hard, I could call it an opening negotiating bid. I would say that the Packers only wanted Jones back on a team-friendly, cap-friendly ($2M in incentives), below market number.

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mnbadger's picture

March 18, 2024 at 12:13 pm

I agree that the headline was way off base, it should have been "Confessions from Ken's Polluted Mindset"
At least then we'd know the setting for these quick opinion dumps.
We can agree or disagree with any of them, but the headline did not match the content IMO.
Go Pack Go!

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Grandfathered's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:30 pm

There were a few nuggets to agree with. I thought Owens could have earned a spot on safety or teams. The Packers should kkeep him and hire Biles to teach a thing or two about motivation and consistency.

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Renllaw's picture

March 18, 2024 at 06:57 am

I disagree with your take that the Packers don't like any of the RB's in the draft. Signing Dillon to a cheap 1 year deal screams to me that they are targeting Jonathan Brooks. They will have Dillon as a place holder if Brooks has to start the season on the PUP.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:48 am

Same here!
I’m an old man. The game is passing me by. The reality now is shotgun and 3 wides vs nickel at least half the time. I was young when an Earl Campbell or a Billy Sims taken in the first round could transform a team. Those days are over. Productive (or better) running backs can come from any point in the draft. So for Ken to say GB is not interested in drafting any backs this year is kinda silly.

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Untylu1968's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:58 am

Great call on Brooks! He could even spend the entire season on IR and come back full strength for 2025.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:37 am

I think it reflects more on the Packers reluctance to play anyone at RB who hasn’t proved to be a good protector. That’s a bit of a chicken and egg conundrum, but it could be they draft with 2025 really in mind and develop.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:44 am

Yes I am thinking having a RB they know can pass protect is key while Jacobs develops in that part of the scheme. They draft another guy who is ready later in the season and next year when Dillon is gone.

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Rory P Scrotem's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:00 am

Would someone please tell me. Do the Packers have something in Brenton Cox, jr. or not? Seems to me, on paper, he is the real deal. On occasion I read snip-its about him but nothing about where he is in his development after one year.

I don't want to hear about his college shenanigans, I'd just like to know if he is on the verge?

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:42 am

How would we know? They didn’t play him. That’s the LaFleur era way with young players not anointed to start the season and not forced into action by injuries. They liked him well enough to keep on the roster throughout the season. Just liked they have done with Caleb Jones for two, and others before them.

So the rostered but not played status is impossible to read much into. Add to that the change of system and wider questions about who fits where on the front and it’s even less clear.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:58 am

Good questions! But GB is not necessarily wrong to limit the playing time of young players. They see them in practice and evaluate the living hell out of everything they do. But yes, sometimes all a player needs is a chance to show what he can do. Sometimes an injury can force a guy into the lineup and he shows he belongs. Other times, not so much. But like you, I agree that I want to see young guys get a chance. Maybe I’m just impatient..

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PeteK's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:35 am

He'll get his chance in the preseason especially since Enagbare will not be ready.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:19 am

Maybe, maybe not.

I just hope coaches create real competition, and decide based on merit and nothing else.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:47 am

Yes but wouldn’t you give your first round picks every chance to contribute? Versus an undrafted guy? You think Cox might be better than someone else who is getting snaps? Enagbare?

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GB@Germany's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:55 am

Just rewatched preseason 2023 and he was not jumping out. Also I looked up his RAS, if might be an option as Mike or Sam ILB, but as the other lighter OLB, he was quite slow .

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SpikeHyzer's picture

March 18, 2024 at 06:12 pm

Yep. Injury often shows us what someone can do.

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Untylu1968's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:17 am

Draft and develop! Believe it or not, but some guys/kids just aren't ready in year 1 or even heaven forbid year 2.

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dblbogey's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:54 am

Zach Tom was ready, but we had to watch Royce Newman whiff on blocks for 10 games before they finally made a change.

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LLCHESTY's picture

March 18, 2024 at 01:38 pm

This is false. Newman started 16 games as a rookie and wasn't bad except for his total inability to pick up stunts. It was by far his best season.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:37 am

Cox is a wild card Rory. If he can puy it all together, he could easily take over once P Smith is gone. He should get a good chance to show what he is capable of, with Enegbare on the sideline for awhile.

You are right about the college problems being old news. It's all about what he is doing now and the fact that we have heard of no new issues is very promising.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:40 am

So far all that has come out of the Packers (not much) has commended his approach and attitude. The Summer might give us clues, but sometimes we just have to wait and let things play out.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:38 am

Why "on paper" does he appear to be the real deal? Yeah some years ago he was a top recruit out of high school. He then went on to get kicked out of 2 different schools, go undrafted, and show very little his rookie year. Not sure where this hype is coming from.

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:17 am

noooo. there is a conspiracy afoot. they play people based on favoritism? apparently. nothing about the packers is based on merit, it's only the egos of the front office/coaches/??? that prevent the packers from playing their best.

this is apparently a franchise that doesn't care about winning, only favoritism.

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T7Steve's picture

March 18, 2024 at 01:58 pm

I thought that was pretty good sarcasm, but evidently others thought you were serious. Or am I off base and you really are a Bears' fan? HA!

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 18, 2024 at 06:52 pm

you are apparently only marginally familiar with my work...

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HarryHodag's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:10 am

At some point, hopefully soon, we won't have any more Aaron Jones stories. I'm not too worried about Jones. He will likely be hurt and on IR during the season. Better the Vikings are paying him for that.

Nixon: how many times has he turned around games? Plus he does TWO things for the Packers. The team could have let him go, but then they would need to find a slot corner AND a Pro Bowl level returner. If AJ Dillon also played linebacker would you pay him more?

I do want to talk about the Justin Fields story. Of course I hate the Bears but the treatment Fields received from the team and the fans is shameful. The front office largely gave him a horsecrap offensive line and mediocre players elsewhere with just a couple of exceptions. He handled the adversity with grace. He is not a bad quarterback. I thought if he was with the Eagles and their offensive line you would see the talent he has. Being in Pittsburgh gives him a chance to reestablish himself with a solid organization and good, not great, offense. Russell Wilson looks to be a one year rental then Fields will have a chance to show his ability.
The Steelers got much better at quarterback and it won't cost them $50 million a year like it will with Jordan Love and the Packers.

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Packers0808's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:16 am

Agree on Fields, he had crap for coaching in Chicago. Will be interesting to see what Tomlin and crew get from him.

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T7Steve's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:59 am

They picked up Trubisky (sp check) too. Remember he was a first rounder taken before Maholmes? I hope for Field's sake they didn't hurt him beyond repair.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:46 am

Fields may never have been an NFL QB wherever he landed. A great Athlete, yes. Chicago just ensured the outcome. Will they now start on the next in the chain? Looking at their off-season so far and only 4 picks left in this draft, quite possibly.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:00 am

I wonder if they’d taken Mahomes instead of Trubisky how the whole NFL landscape would look right now.

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10ve 💚's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:20 am

Chances are high Mahomes would have been ruined if Chicago had picked him.

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T7Steve's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:34 am

They would have just wrecked Maholmes' career instead.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:20 am

Havoc, baby!

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T7Steve's picture

March 18, 2024 at 02:13 pm

Thanks for the spell check. The computer has its own ideas.

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Brewcity_BearsFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:17 am

I have said time and again, Mahomes would not be the player he is, had he been in Chicago. People discredit Andy Reid by thinking this.

Regarding Fields, there are reports that Poles had better offers, but Fields wanted to go to Pittsburgh. So Poles took the deal that allowed that to happen.

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SpikeHyzer's picture

March 18, 2024 at 06:14 pm

Fields would have a Super Bowl and Mahomes would have a bottom 10 QB rating and none of those commercials?

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:23 am

The gifts of Ryan Pace keep on giving.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:51 am

I agree about Fields treatment Harry. I am also very happy the Bears went this route instead of keeping Fields and trading the #1 pick for a boatload of young talented draft picks. They could have stocked the shelves forever.

I am an Iowa fan, so I saw Fields play numerous times in the BIG 10 on TV and I really thought he was better than the Texans rookie QB Stroud. Granted Ohio State always has great players at all positions including WR, but Fields could make all the throws effortlessly. The long throws were always on target. And the running is such a bonus to extend plays.

As you say, Fields not becoming a star is all on the Bears and not surrounding him with talent. From what they have been doing this off season, it looks like they have learned that lesson. Hopefully they find a wat to screw it up.

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jvole's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:34 am

Should be written on a stone tablet in every GM's office: "Crap offensive lines will ruin any quarterback." This is a lesson the Bears never seem to learn. If Caleb Williams goes to the Bears and gets the crap knocked out of him, he is going to suck.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:00 am

“An offense needs more than a QB” might be added for the Bears.

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dblbogey's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:57 am

The other 31 teams apparently don't think much of Fields. A 6th round pick for a still young experienced QB.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:03 am

The one that took him doesn’t need him to play. They can see if they improve him while Wilson is there this year. Cheap punt in redemption. If it fails, no worse off.

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:59 am

A creative offensive mind will find a way to get value out of him, even if he struggles to develop further as a QB. See Hill, Taysom.

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NFLfan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:00 pm

@HH-
I agree re: Jones-the story that won't go away.

I am happy Justin Fields is getting another chance. Word on the street is Russ will start but only to give Justin some time to adjust and get his sea legs.
If 'Russ does what Russ does,' he'll be out on his keester. He's on a vet minimum and they can find another QB.

Go Justin!

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WD's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:15 am

Some good points made. However, the criticism of Nixon was a bit harsh. He did an admirable job as the slot CB. Particularly in light of him never having played the position before. Moreover, he made the pro bowl as a kick returner. I think he earned a raise.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:46 am

Not to dispute the gist your comment, but the coming rule change meant that the role of kick returner just gained a lot of value. Nixon was the best on the market and thus probably gained most from that change.

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:27 am

I do find myself wondering if they see him having some value at safety. They clearly see a role for him on this defense, and it may reflect a desire--after signing a big money S--not to have to burn a very early pick on another S.

They're not fools: they're not going to overpay a returner when you can skim return talent out of the draft or at cutdowns in August.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:55 am

The difference is I suppose that he’s proven to be consistently good and this rule change makes that important, especially for a team that had so many issues before he appeared. Drafted returners are a lottery as much as any other position.

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Houndog's picture

March 19, 2024 at 08:22 am

Dobber,
I'm kinda' with Coldworld here, I think they needed to keep him.
What's it been, how many years since we've had a decent return man, since Cobb was young maybe?
Some of that comes from their ignoring STs for so many years, but that's another story touching on the 'they're not fools' and the "We're not Idiots" categories.

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NickPerry's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:15 am

"The lesson to be learned here is always take what a head coach or general manager says in a news conference with a grain of salt."

OMG...An NFL General Manager wasn't truthful... He said one thing and then did another... Drew Rosenhaus got the better of Gute... Gimmie a fucking break!!!

Maybe I'm not as big of an Aaron Jones fans as I thought. Don't get me wrong, I was as bummed out as the next Packers fan when Jones was released, but it's been a week now and I've read more than one article about how WRONG Brian Gutekunst was in this whole thing...Get OVER it!

The last thing I want the GM of the Green Bay Packers doing is being 100% honest when he's talking to the media or anyone else for that matter. The TRUTH is Brian Gutekunst does his job WELL. He's able to make those tough decisions, the ones NO ONE will like or even want to do but he does them anyways because it's BEST for the Packers.

The Green Bay Packers are BETTER than they were a week ago this time before the tampering period started, AND their getting Salary Cap healthy. Instead of snivelling over a player a week later, get PUMPED as hell at the roster Gute has put together. Now only did they get better, the youngest team in the NFL got even younger after last week and they haven't even had the draft.

Life is GOOD as a Packers fan...Thanks Gutey!

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T7Steve's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:04 am

"The last thing I want the GM of the Green Bay Packers doing is being 100% honest"

"I AM NOT A CROOK!"; Richard Nixon

Right there with you, NP.

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:28 am

When can you tell an NFL executive is lying?

His lips are moving.

Some people around here laughably take everything that comes from these guys' mouths as being 100% honest and straightforward.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:53 am

On who spoke openly and honestly would rightly be fired. The NFL is a hive of rumor and obfuscation because it’s a very competitive goldfish bowl of a market.

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RCPackerFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:25 am

-- Speaking of popular players, bringing back AJ Dillon makes little sense to me.

I was surprised that they resigned Dillon. I like Dillon, I really do. But he has not really been the guy we thought we would get in the draft. I'm hoping he comes in a bit lighter. What I like about having Dillon though is knows the system, he is good in pass pro and he can be the bruising type of RB.
What his signing tells me though is that they will be looking for a speedier type of RB in the draft. I don't know exactly how his contract works though so perhaps, they signed him for insurance incase they can't get a RB they want. And if they get a RB they want, maybe they let him go.

-- Six million per year for Keisean Nixon? The Packers need to upgrade the slot corner position, but at that salary level, Nixon is being paid like a starter.

Question. Are we sure Hafley is going to view Nixon as a CB? Or will he consider trying him at Safety? Maybe there is a reason why they haven't signed another Safety yet? Perhaps Hafley views him as a Safety?
If not, I don't think Nixon is a bad CB. He didn't rate too far off from the really good slot CB's.

-- Former Green Bay linebacker De’Vondre Campbell said that the Packers’ defense played better at the end of the season because he was meeting personally with head coach Matt LaFleur and urging him to make the defense more aggressive.

I'm curious to when players started going to LaFleur.

-- I knew the market for Bears quarterback Justin Fields was weak, but wow. They couldn’t do better than a sixth round conditional pick from the Steelers?

Not that I want to see the Bears succeed but if all they were going to get was a 6th round picks, why wouldn't they just keep him? They could still draft their favorite QB at 1. But by keeping Fields they could have started him as the starter until Williams or whoever was ready to take over. But also that may have helped Fields turn the corner. If Fields picked it up they could have gotten a good haul of draft picks. Sure its a gamble, but they definitely could have gotten something better out of him. And it allowed their QB time to develop. And even if Fields was a backup, they could have found ways to use his speed in the offense.
I get they were ready to move on, but from the outside looking in, it makes no sense to me to just give a player away when they could be an asset.

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T7Steve's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:10 am

RC, I think they were trying to prove that they were doing what's best for Fields. They promised they'd try their best for him. That was just to prove to the next guy that they're all heart and have a good culture. They've proven that they're willing to take one in the foot because they're so desperate.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:03 am

I heard some NFL network guys make what seemed like a very good point in that the Bears would be better off hanging on to Fields because as soon as some teams #1 QB was injured next year, Fields would have fetched that 2nd round pick they wanted for him, maybe more.

Barring Fields getting hurt, he would have really benefitted from all the upgrades the Bears made on offense. I hate the Bears but they could be a very dangerous team to play. Like us last year.

Do the Steelers inherit his initial contract with its 5th year option or do they make a new one? Either way they are in QB salary heaven right now.

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RCPackerFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:48 am

That was another thought I had. They could have potentially traded him in season to a team. Think about the Vikings last year. Cousins goes down. I bet they would have traded for Fields if they could have and given up a higher pick because they needed it.

Steelers do get the 5th year option.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:06 am

Let’s see if they draft competition too. Fields is guaranteed nothing. The Steelers know they are in transition at QB.

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RCPackerFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:04 am

I get the Steelers trading for him. It just doesn't make sense to me with the Bears. But as long as they still suck I don't care what they do.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:30 am

Da Bares don't want Fields and their #1 pick in the same building at the same time.

Apparently they fear it would be like ammonia and bleach or something. Fortunately they continue to implode, and that may lead to them continuing to suck.

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RCPackerFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:05 am

I'm all for them still sucking. Anyway they want to do it is fine by me.

Just my opinion they made a stupid decision by letting him go now. And I'm ok with that.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 22, 2024 at 04:29 pm

Pittsburgh gets to decide about it. I doubt they will exercise the 5th year option: It is a fully guaranteed $25M or so. That would make it impossible to extend Russell Wilson if they manage to get him to play well.

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RCPackerFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:46 am

At least that's the optics of it.
Maybe they did ask him which place he wanted to be traded to? But they most likely took one of the best offers they got. Maybe it was down to the Steelers and someone else.

I get them wanting to move on. But its not like they were moving on from Rodgers or Favre. And its not like they know who the QB is. I'm sure they know who they are going to draft (Williams), but they don't know, know him like GB knew Rodgers and knew Love. Or the Chiefs knew Mahomes.

I'm at the point that I think you are way better off sitting a QB until they are ready. There aren't too many Strouds out there. There are a lot more QB's that are ruined by playing too soon.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:52 am

The other side of the trade to the Steelers, is that he is gone from the NFC. So the Bears won't see him very often. That said, I didn't understand why no apparent trade of Jones was attempted. Maybe they did, but the release happened so fast I don't think so. Unless there was a contract clause preventing a trade, I would think Jones would garner some interest, and any pick we got would be a bonus. Plus no chance of a comp pick next year.

It's bad enough to lose him, but to the Vikings makes it worse.

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:03 am

"I didn't understand why no apparent trade of Jones was attempted."

I think it might very well be the knowledge that if the Packers start shopping him, they're probably going to cut him...and the RB free agent market was very deep.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 12:08 pm

Jones’ contract was a major factor. It might have been possible to have him agree to a cut pre signature, but the problem with that is that the team taking him then needs to give up draft capital as well as paying.

Jones was only able to get a small increase over the Packers as it was and teams are seldom going to give up draft capital of any kind for a one year rental of a player of his age and position without reducing his cost elsewhere, if at all.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 18, 2024 at 04:03 pm

I can see that Dobber. But isn't it a possibility that some team, like the Cowboys, would have given up a pick to ensure they would get Jones? Even at his age, he was still probably a Top 5 FA RB. His contract was no problem for any next team that signed him. And I would bet $100 that Jones would rather play for the Cowboys over the Vikings.

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RCPackerFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:17 am

Yeah I am not sure if they explored any trade options for him or not. I haven't heard of any.

I completely agree it sucks losing him, but worse to lose him to the Vikings.

I'm going to quietly wishfully be hopeful that he will be injured the 2 games we play against them. I don't wish for injuries on anyone. I just don't want to see him against GB.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 12:15 pm

We know that Rosenhaus did. As he should have done. The Vikings offer was jumped on. They don’t get as much if the Vikings had to compensate the Packers.

If there was another team hungry, they too could have called the Packers and offered even a conditional or future conditional pick if Rosenhaus would agree a wage restructure. Seemingly none did.

If the Packer did explore, presumably the interest was similarly spartan and would have necessitated Rosenhaus to agree to a cut just as much. No one was taking Jones on his then extant contract.

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:17 am

"RC, I think they were trying to prove that they were doing what's best for Fields. They promised they'd try their best for him."

The very cynical side of me says that doing what's best for the player only happens when it coincides with what's best for the team.

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x24's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:23 am

On Dillon- why not re-sign and let him try out? Seems like a team friendly deal, if we find a better option he gets cut

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RCPackerFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:49 am

I'm good with them resigning him. I was kind of surprised by it to be honest, but I'm fine with it.

Definitely a team friendly deal so to me its a good move.
I think they will be looking for a RB in the draft though.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 03:37 pm

Before that popped up out of the blue, I had a sneaking feeling we might see Taylor back just to cover protection duties. LaFleur isn’t going to play backs he doesn’t see as having earned his trust. He’s said so pretty clearly before and during last season.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:33 am

Dillon should play the Kyle Juscyk role.

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:32 am

Should've read your post before I posted mine, although the S speculation has been percolating and I think there might be some fire behind that smoke.

I'm not sure Dillon doesn't have a different role coming back, too. He's on a low money deal. He plays STs, so there's some value there, but this team has no FB or guy who can play a FB role. Deguara was a failure. There won't be a huge number of snaps for that role, but Dillon can do some of it and be a depth piece at a very high-attrition position. There's not much risk in this contract.

"-- Former Green Bay linebacker De’Vondre Campbell"

Who?

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PeteK's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:48 am

I had been hoping for that all season. They did use a two back set at the beginning of the season, but I guess it was derailed after jones got hurt.

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RCPackerFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:58 am

Yeah both Jones and Dillon were hurt a lot so that part never got to go.

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RCPackerFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:57 am

I never read others before I start typing away either.

I haven't really seen anything about Nixon going to safety. So I was wondering if that is something they may consider. I think he would make a good one. He tackles pretty well, he has good hands, and can cover a lot of ground. If he had plays in front of him, I think he would be pretty good. I just don't know what Hafley would be willing to do.

I think its a smart move to bring Dillon back. They have someone that they know can get the job done. I do think they will still draft 1-2 RB's though. But it will be more based on value then them reaching for someone.

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:12 am

" He tackles pretty well, he has good hands, and can cover a lot of ground."

That's mostly the rationale for those speculating a tryout at S. He can play a more physical role and--as you said--can play the ball in front of him well.

The fact has to be that they see a meaningful role for him beyond KR if they let his deal void, absorbed his void value, and then signed him to a new deal at nearly starters' money...of course, with the cap starting to balloon and several teams flush with cash, do we really know what starters' money in 2024 looks like yet?

With the 5th year exemption thingy, Dillon costs them not much more than the vet's minimum against the cap. He's still gotta earn a spot on the 53, but he knows the offense, is a capable player in most phases, and is popular in GB and in the locker room. It's a low risk proposition.

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RCPackerFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:20 am

It really makes me wonder about them possibly moving him to S. More likely they keep him at CB, but I'm curious to see what they are planning to do at S. They signed one, and they really only have Johnson as another S option right now.

I am good with bringing Dillon back. But I want another option at RB via draft. Someone with speed. They sorely missed that when Jones went out. They need that threat from the backfield.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 18, 2024 at 04:08 pm

It's funny that Nixon seems to have good hands as a kick returner, but he sure didn't when he dropped the interception against SF.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:34 am

"this team has no FB or guy who can play a FB role."

Yes they do, but who could do that as well as Dillon? I think it's a much better fit for him, plus he can be used in the passing game.

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:14 am

Granted on Pearson, but we agree on Dillon v. Pearson.

This, of course, doesn't preclude them from finding a way better Deguara in the draft.

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RCPackerFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:28 am

I would love to find an upgrade to Deguara in the draft.

One guy that intrigues me is Jaheim Bell from FSU. He is 6'3 239. Size wise he would fit that role. CBS sports has him ranked as the 132nd ranked prospect, which puts him in the 4th round area of the draft.
I don't know how he is as a blocker. I am solely looking at his size and how he would be a fit as a Deguara type.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 18, 2024 at 04:37 pm

I looked at him a while back RC. When GB talked about not resigning Deguara. They said "Bells size and strength limitations make him a liability in blocking situations." NFL Draft Buzz

I really think the few snaps Deguara played in this offense that Kraft, Davis, or Sims would be better suited for blocking and catching the ball.(Bigger catch radius)

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 12:24 pm

Don’t find a better Deguara. Ditch the Hback. Find a guy who can block well in line and leading.

I’ve proposed acquiring a true FB (Jakobi Buchanan) who can run the ball credibly in short yardage, since we don’t use the role in passing, we increasingly used Simms and might always have used Davis when an outlet was needed. I just think a big power runner/blocker adds a dimension with so many catchers already.

If Sims or Davis aren’t good enough to excel at blocking, get a guy like Spann-Ford. He won’t run the ball but he can catch and is a big, physical blocker in line and can lead and provide a big target aerial outlet as needed.

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T7Steve's picture

March 18, 2024 at 02:04 pm

Davis was projected or proved to be the best in-line blocker and was actually catching the ball last summer. Poor guy had his best chance before him and got hurt.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 03:41 pm

Davis looked improved to me pre injury, but that was coming off a pretty disappointing 2022 (aside from STs). I didn’t see him even then as promising to be a plus blocker in line or leading. My point is that we should not accept adequacy without a stellar reason. We have weapons aplenty: find a real impact block first guy. Let camp take it from there.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 18, 2024 at 04:43 pm

If we never throw to the HB/FB, why would teams ever respect the position? They would know we are always running the ball.

Why draft another TE? We have 4 already and Kraft, Davis, and Sims would all be upgrades.

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 04:58 pm

Do you understand blocking mechanics? Or how Kraft or Sims physiques differ from a fullback? Or perhaps watched their strengths last year.

Are you aware that run/block uncertainty is also able to sow uncertainty just as is run catch and being able to run does not preclude basic dump off capability. Or that Deguara was barely targeted: thus no dual threat that mattered? Did you know Spann-Ford is a TE who doesn’t run the ball, but does lead block?

You are entitled to an opinion but sometimes it’s hard to credit one. My point is don’t compromise on blocking.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:54 pm

Actually Coldworld, my Iowa Hawkeyes are one of the few college teams that religiously use a fullback. So yeah, I do understand the concept of blocking. Our head coach Kirk "the most stubborn man in America" Ferentz won't even allow promising players on the field unless they can block well.

Again, this year Iowa's offense was one of the worst in the nation I am not too proud to say. But one position that played well was our fullback, who happens to be 6'6!!!!!!!!!!!! And he blocks and catches the ball great.
Look it up if you don't believe me. If you couldn't use taller players to block from the backfield, you wouldn't see NFL teams using big offensive linemen in the backfield on the goal line.

So yeah, I know a little bit about what also works at the HB/FB position. Iowa uses it more than most NFL teams do.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:40 am

Why is it so hard to believe that we all love and appreciate Aaron Jones, but to give him big $ at this point would be a mistake? And since when does ANY GM just put all his cards on the table?

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Coldworld's picture

March 18, 2024 at 07:48 am

I know it’s the dead season, but the endless debate about a negotiation we know nothing about the details is tired beyond belief. We don’t know how it went down, so it’s just arguing about our own conjectures. Pointless.

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MainePackFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:54 am

Bingo!!

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10ve 💚's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:13 am

Ken, is this a "tongue-in-cheek" article? Is this just you trying to be contrary, that you are trying to write something that is opposite to what you want to say/convey? 😜😜😜

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:19 am

Not some of your best work Ken.

You know what Gutey was thinking, and have determined he was insincere in his negotiations. Right...that's the take in the NFL...Brian Gutekuenst is not to be trusted or believed...certainly not a much as some agent on commission working for millionaire players.

$6 M for a player that AVERAGES 12 touches a game. $353,000 per game...$29,000 per touch was "insincere". And the fear in your heart having to face Jones and a Vikings twice a year! You really believe, for the first time his career, Jones is going to be a work horse RB in Ugly Purple with 25 carries a game...on turf, nearing age 30. OK!

Meanwhile, Nixon also was offered $6 M/year also doesn't make sense to you. He not only showed he can play slot, he improved during the season doing so for the first time. And you gloss over that the NFL is planning to bring back KO returns in a big way in 2024. Nixon's value went straight up.

Dillon makes no sense being back on a near vet's minimum, virtually no risk K? And just because he's a bigger back like Jacobs? Maybe his lower yards/rush while the oft injured Jones was on the bench was due to chronic OL run blocking issues every fan saw? As the run blocking greatly improved during the push to the playoffs, Dillon was more productive as a result. I think Dillon's return on this K is amazingly good.

I agree with your take the reputation of Jordan Love is growing in the NFL and players want to play with him. But not Jones, however. Gutey knowingly "forced" him refuse a $6 M deal to play with the up and coming star QB.

I just hope players will continue to want to play in Green Bay with such deceitful, manipulative GM of Player Personnel.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 22, 2024 at 05:27 pm

Aaron Jones was lighter fluid when he was on the field. He made the running game go. He was a threat on every snap he played. We've paid plenty of receivers far more per touch.

Now that I've watched some highlights, Jacobs looks good. Jacobs has had 90 receptions over the last 2 seasons while jones has had 89, so that's a wash. I am sure he is expected to have 20 attempts per game. Those 6 to 8 extra attempts are going to cost $8.6M this year or over two years $5.5M extra, assuming that Jones' salary remained $6M in 2025. The 393 touches Jacobs had in 2022 is a trifle concerning.

I am not greatly perturbed by the switch from Jones to Jacobs as it looks like he can make it work just fine. I expect the team to completely plug holes when they make the free agent the 6th highest player at his position. Ditto for buying the 4th highest paid Safety.

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MooPack's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:26 am

On Dillon:
"The move tells me the Packers don’t really like any of the running backs in the upcoming draft. "

Or, you as a fan, are getting played again by a GM that says one thing in public, but has other designs for the team long term. Who saw the signing of Jacobs coming? No one. If Gute had publicly announced they are moving on from Jones and showed an interest in Jacobs, what a very different outcome might have happened. It's smart business. Publicly say one thing for insurance, while behind the scenes, make other plans.

So now he resigns Dillon. Possible public show of not only insurance, but create doubt for the need for a RB in the draft. Do you think Gute is more interested in what the fans might believe, or what other GM's might believe? Doubt created. Works for me if it allows him to get what the team needs.

The Godfather comes to mind. Vito Corleone - "Never tell anyone outside the Family what you are thinking again"

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mrtundra's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:42 am

Dillon may not even make the team. I think the Packers signed Dillon on a deal where it would not break the bank if they had to let him go. I'm thinking GB drafts two RBs and they compete with Dillon for a spot on the 53. Right now Dillon is an insurance piece for GB's RB room. Will Wilson step up? What will they do with Taylor? Both are unknowns, at this point. Drafting RBs makes sense, to me and it would not surprise me if Dillon was gone by the end of camp and we had a rookie paired with Jacobs, in the backfield. Let Gute do his job. He'll get us what the team needs.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:21 am

I agree Tundra on the Packers taking 2 RBs this draft. We have the luxury of taking 2 RBs and there is a strong group that will be available from the 3rd to the 6th rounds. It seems like all the RBs this year run and catch equally well.

It shows how much stronger our team has gotten because we only had/have about 3 bigger needs. A bunch of picks helps too. We might fill all the "needs" in the first five picks.

The fast Jacobs pickup was a very sharp, shrewd business move that also sounds like a team friendly contract. If we get 3-4 good years out of him then it was a home run. If not we move to the next guy.

As far as Dillon goes, what is not to like about this deal? We got back a player familiar with what we do, Dillon is an above average RB that runs hard, catches really well, blocks above average, doesn't fumble, and is available. We even got him back on a team friendly contract that we can terminate at a low cost.

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CanPackFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 12:18 pm

Bringing back Dillon on a bargain contract was a terrific move for depth! He knows the offense and is a good pass protector and receiver to boot! Now we can go out and find a project RB- a scat back with breakaway speed and elusiveness. Dare I say it - a young Aaron Jones in the rough?

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Guam's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:33 am

Ken Lass is usually a bit more fair minded than this swipe at Gutekunst. Yes, Gute may have engaged in "media speak" regarding Jones, but Lass ignored Jones' hiring of Drew Rosenhaus as well as the plethora of free agent running backs available this year. The market for aging running backs appears to be in significant decline in the NFL which was the backdrop for a confrontation between Jones/Rosenhaus and the Packers. This was a negotiation which had failure written all over it right from the start. I was sad but not surprised to see Jones leave and it was a departure engineered by both sides.

I hope this is the last CHTV article on Jones departure. We have beaten this horse to death.

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LeotisHarris's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:49 am

Insincerity abounds in the NFL, as do less-than-truthful GMs. Gute did his job.

Who knows what those rascally Vikings are up to. Will they solve their QB dilemma this century? Will they assign Aaron Jones Herschel Walker's old number? Don't care. Moving on. It's a bright football future for Packers fans and I'm looking forward.

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Vachio's picture

March 18, 2024 at 08:58 am

Why do people keep saying Dillon and Jacobs are the same kind of back? The tape says otherwise. Emphatically. Yeah, they are both punishing runners, but Jacobs plays like he's Dillon's size with a game speed similar to Jones. I'm excited to see it play out. 4 quarters of tackling those guys is gonna suck for defenses.

Hoping they can add Jaylen Wright in the draft so we have some serious wheels in there, too. That would be an extra nasty combo.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

March 18, 2024 at 03:07 pm

One of my draft crushes is Jaylen Wright. However he would probably be selected in the 3rd round. If gone - then I would certainly look for Tyrone Tracey Jr. -who isn't getting much attention but probably should. He is projected between rounds 4-6.

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vin0770's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:00 am

I don’t care about GM words about what’s going to happen you have to deal with the market reality always! AJ had a contract that wasn’t ever going to stand so deal with the reality of the market regardless of what happened in history. Today the market is X, your agent thinks it’s low so try to get a bit more than X MN did…oh well.

Just got a new 2023 Aviator and thought it was worth $10k under msrp. Tried two local dealers and they scoffed at my offer. I had to drive to Minneapolis Friday to get my deal so that’s a long day and sacrifice I had make if I believed in my deal. Why did I believe in my offer? There were Aviators in MD,PA and GA that were advertising $10k+ discounts just none in WI. It’s still the market reality and for shame on AJ/agent for thinking $6 million was outrageous offer. They took their ball and went elsewhere…oh well.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:49 am

I dont think this is a very fair assessment of Gute. If Gute's plan all along was to release Jones then why did he wait till they signed Jacobs to release Jones? Because they didnt want to release him. They wanted him back. Unfortunately the business side of things didnt line up. There was no malice here. If anything, the malice belongs to the guy who signed with the damn Vikings just to get revenge.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:42 am

This narrative that #33 signed with the Queens out of revenge is baseless.

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:29 am

the narrative that any of this was anything other than business is baseless. none of it was personal.

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:45 am

It's not unreasonable to assume that Gutekunst may have been considering moving on from Jones. The Packers negotiating position with other running backs was strengthened by having Jones as a fallback - as in - we'd like to sign you Mr. Jacobs, but it's got to be to both of our advantage, because we already have Aaron Jones...

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stockholder's picture

March 18, 2024 at 09:51 am

Welcome to planet of the apes Ken.
Where money can buy anything.
(If you don't have it ) Steal it.-
You take from one and give it to another.
The Packer way is dead.
All hail Ceasar.

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crayzpackfan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:14 am

I don't remember seeing money on the apes planet.

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:28 am

Stockholder theories of interconnectability...
https://meme-arsenal.com/create/meme/4747785

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ricky's picture

March 18, 2024 at 10:38 am

The Bears moved up one spot to get Mitch Trubisky. They gave SF their third (for SF's second); a second and third that same draft, and a third rounder the following year. Then again, SF gave up three first rounders so they could draft Trey Lance. Then again, the Packers swapped first and threw in a third to get Jordan Love. And we all know the story of Brock Purdy. The draft is a crap shoot, and you lose a lot more than you win.

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:24 am

and the brilliant Mike Sherman traded up in the third round to draft a punter. a punter.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

March 18, 2024 at 03:12 pm

Sherman, the Coach and GM - proved emphatically - that oil and water do not mix.

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LeotisHarris's picture

March 18, 2024 at 05:48 pm

If I were tech savvy, Bitter, I'd drop an animated GIF for Ol' Mike doing his aw shucks scowling air punch right here.

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porupack's picture

March 18, 2024 at 11:31 am

Ken's article is reasonable conclusion at this time and place. A second paycut, and very significant one would have been humiliating and demotivating, so wasn't really tenable. It was not likely to be accepted. Evidence is that the market value for Jones was at least 7 million for his production and versatility. Rosenhaus curated the market, so the range was understood. GB's offer was within 1 million. Then bring back Dillon? Yes, the NFL is a business, but some managers understand the value of people in the business.....just like other companies out in the business world. Talented people who know they have options certainly consider such above pure dollars.

Despite disagreement with that move, reality is now here and we'll all certainly understand more pending Gute's final work in roster building for the year. I might praise him later if he acquires an upgrade in the RB unit. Until then, we can grumble if we want..... thanks ken.

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CanPackFan's picture

March 18, 2024 at 12:10 pm

Like many other comments above, ENOUGH about Jones! Yes, we're all a little saddened with his leaving. But, the game and the Packers go on.

This idea that Gutes talks GM talk? Newsflash- he is a GM. Another Newsflash- things change quickly in the NFL and a good GM must react accordingly. Frankly, we have one of the best GMs in this league so writers who say otherwise - on a slow news day - don't impress me much. Nor do the ignorant Gutey haters... Imagine if we had one of the many "successful" Bears' GMs here? There's a sobering thought.

Like at the end of last season, I am again excited for us. Many things can still happen in the draft and before the start of next season. GPG

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Guam's picture

March 18, 2024 at 02:49 pm

"Imagine if we had one of the many successful Bears' GMs here?"

Thanks for that nightmare thought CPF! It certainly puts things in perspective.

Packer fans have been very fortunate to have Wolf, Thompson and Gutekunst as the last three GMs. Many other teams have done much worse.

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Bitternotsour's picture

March 18, 2024 at 02:55 pm

Skipping over Sherman the GM is probably wise. Jesus, what was Ron Wolf thinking.

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Guam's picture

March 19, 2024 at 07:48 am

He wasn't.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

March 18, 2024 at 12:25 pm

I wasn't aware that it is Sensationalistic News Month at CHTV. First, a couple of days ago, a headline - "Rosenhaus Won and Gutekunst Lost. " Now today - "Offer to Jones Not Sincere." Tomorrow - " Did Gutekunst Really Take Someone's Lunch In High Schoo1?" Sheesh!

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skydancer506's picture

March 18, 2024 at 03:21 pm

How much of the alleged low-ball offer was a knock against Aaron Jones and how much of the alleged low-ball offer was a knock against his agent, Drew Rosenhaus. Remember, Aaron Jones changed agents to Rosenhaus after he inked his deal with Green Bay last year. A move to Rosenhaus signifies to all that Aaron wants the big money. However, the market collapsed at the RB position (for a nearly 30 year old RB) and he isn't worth the amount of money that he was under contract for. When he was asked to take a pay cut, after he had changed agents to one who is known for getting big money for his players, the writing was on the wall. If the Packers were faced with a long protracted negotation over a player who missed 11 games last year, or moving on to a younger player who has more left in the tank, they were going to move on. Surely Rosenhaus must have known this. It was this negotiation between Gutekunst, negotiating on behalf of the team, and Rosenhaus, negotating on behalf of his client, which put the player, Aaron Jones, into a pickle. Jones had to choose between loyalty to the team that drafted him and fan base that loved him, and a higher payday in the light of a collapsing RB market. He chose the money over loyalty. It was his choice to make. That's why he hired Rosenhaus. At the end of the day, it is still a business between the player and the management.

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Packerpasty's picture

March 18, 2024 at 04:20 pm

I sure hope its "the Lass" time we have an article about Jones and his departure...write about the Packers, Jones is gone now...

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SpikeHyzer's picture

March 18, 2024 at 06:01 pm

Of course it was sincere. Because it reflected his ACTUAL current value based on age and recent injury history.
It was also fair.
Aaron Jones didn't think it was insincere. He thought it was unfair.
Thus he rejected it.
And time will tell.
Very good chance he doesn't provide the value of the number he signed for this year and loses 5 games to injury this year.
Smart Gutey, as usual.

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Boneman's picture

March 19, 2024 at 07:35 am

Why do we assume Gute was being insincere? His statement looks perfectly honest to me. Wanting him back and acknowledging his career and contributions is quite different than ignoring the market, ignoring his injury history and ignoring his age when you are negotiating and team building. An incentive laden offer of $6 million is a damn good one that he could easily have taken if he truly wanted to stay. Remember the Packers were looking to pay J. Taylor last year, tipping their hand on what they thought of Jones durability and Dillon's capability as an RB1. I'm pretty confident that during the negotiations to reduce Jones salary last year he was made perfectly aware that if certain conditions weren't me health and durability) that they would revisit his contract. Thus hiring Drew Rosenhouse. I think you will see several more signings leading up to the draft to fill glaring needs at safety and LB, not glamorous players but functional NFL players on the cheap. Then it's BPA during the draft.

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