For me the part about how his wisdom, savvy, decision-making skill, and ability to run the short passing game have really helped GB is the key line. Given the rage posting about 12 following the loss a couple weeks ago, however, I fear you've invited a fury flurry of comments, Ken.

I love the idea of Rodgers being a game manager, but you're still going to need speed and vertical threats to make that approach effective over time. Watson has to stay healthy and be productive when he's in there. It might also be helpful to sign another veteran WR (Andre Rison, where are you?), but the Packers usually are hesitant to sign receivers with any "issues" on their resumes.

If our defense plays up to their capabilities, I'm certainly hoping that we can do better than eke out a three-point win vs. an experienced, but unheralded backup QB.

You have to take an occasional deep shot to keep the opposing defense honest.

As the offensive line and Lazard get healthier, and Doubs gets more experience, more shots downfield will be coming

A healthy Watson will stretch the defense and open things up. Teams will have to respect his speed.

If they want to take deep shots, and I'm sure Rodgers does, then obviously almost everything depends on the Oline. They get that right and we'll see it. As Bahk and Jenk get healthier, and Newman doesn't blow it, we'll see it.

I don’t care if it’s schematic dink and dunk or another label applied to another strategy, I want to know where to go to register my concern about something they need to correct that is terminal. These ungodly long droughts vs quality teams, 8 consecutive possessions and no first downs, opening drive td and don’t get another one for the rest of the game. Who do I register my concerns to? MLF for the schematic design and philosophy or the savy AR that can’t move the chains? The trend is a solid trend now…no longer a one off that can be discussed away.

Running the ball more helped us. Dink and dunk failed us. Why say that? Because we ran it to draw up the D as much as anything, when we succeeded, our yards per carry declined. We kept running it, which is good, but we ignored the field beyond 8 yards, In doing so we essentially chose to throw into the Bucs we’d persuaded to pack the ten yards from the line of scrimmage. Most of the time we weren’t even sending receivers much deeper. Tactical incompetence that led to us failing to convert repeatedly.

The same approach has had the same effect before, so it shouldn’t surprise anyone. It’s good that we committed to the run and remained with it. It’s risible that we then never even tried to reap the rewards. As it was, we just set up the opponent to shut down the run and the dink and dunk: the two operate in same spaces, indeed the fast short pass was originated as an alternative to the run game, not to capitalize on it.

I disagree with the premise that Rodger’s stats have anything to do with his decisions to throw deep.

Rodgers is a first ballot HOFer and a 4 time league MVP. How are any more stats going to change that or make those achievements any better. If he retired today nothing would change.

Rodgers was coached for years to take deep shots during the MM era. Especially when he read one on one coverage. Him and Jordy turned it into an art form prior to Jordy’s injury in 2015.

Bottom line is that the Packers should take a few deep shots during every game to keep the defense honest. Right now our threats might not be effective deep threats but we should take the shots regardless. Doubs and Watson will improve and both can evolve into effective deep threats.
We can’t have DBs sitting in short routes. They will jump
them and make picks unless we back them off.
Thanks, Since ‘61

I don't agree at all with this reasoning. Rodgers didn't drink and dunk last year. He has Adams. His dinking is because he has no faith in his receivers to get open and he is un happy with the o line protection. He throwing short and quickly for survival, not some shrewd plan in his mind. Long drives have a lot that can go wrong too . Our run game isn't that good it can by itself win games.
Last play a team that scores quickly while your dinking and dunking and you never catch up

According to the throw chart Dusty had in his article Rodgers attempted 4 throws of 20 plus yards and completed one of them. Three of them went to Lazard and one to Cobb on the free play. The number is about right, I think you want to attempt 4-5 deeper passes a game unless you're seeing something that suggests you should attempt more. My problem was the depth, the deepest attempt was only 30 yards, and who is getting the targets. I know it's college but Doubs averaged 17.3 yards a catch in 2020. Lazard and Cobb haven't come close to that in the pros.

Obviously Watson will get some deep targets when he's healthy(practiced fully today) but Doubs should get his share too. I'd like to see him run some deep outs, especially if CBs start sitting on his routes because of all the short stuff he's catching.

The good news is that Bilichick takes away what you do best on offense. Right now we’ve got no “best”, good luck Bill…,

As goes the OL, so goes the GBP gameplan.

Let things settle down with DBak and EJ getting back to form. Let the G - C dynamic firm up with no more musical chairs.

Only then will the running game be the driver for the passing game to operate as we have seen in the past.

All the parts are there. The WR speed and talent is on the roster, hopefully it gets on the field soon.
The RB as runners and pass catchers is there.
The OL talent is on the roster and now is on the field.
The QB certainly has the talent and can make every throw. It seems as if he understands that winning now takes a slightly different approach than it has in the past. He will progress the offense when the parts are all present and well lubricated. That day is not now, but it will happen this season.

In the meantime, the defense has and can continue to carry the load needed to fuel early season wins while gaining the confidence that they can win in the playoffs as well.

The special teams has looked much improved as well. No glaring weak links to sabotage things while the offense finds its stride.

The GBP are right on schedule...

Maybe just me...but I am seeing a tendency for ML to go into a game plan "crouch" once his game blueprint is checkmated. Then we see the 5-7 step drops from AR after running the play clock down to 1 second giving the D the snap count, calling a time out or getting a flag, looking for an "Adams", a "Jordy", or an "MVS" breaking open deep. Doubs can be that guy...the better fit is Watson.

Sprinkling in those deep haymakers WHILE running the short run pass game will keep the "illusion of complexity" operating and Ds off balance. As it was, Tampa loaded the box to stop the up tempo short game and the Packers O decided to play rope a dope in the second half.

Right now it seems ML...probably with Rodgers' encouragement, when checked, abandons his initial game plan and flips the switch to a completely different scheme.

After a week of practice with the desired game plan...can the players...and coaches effectively adjust to a totally different plan B during the game?

Al Davis built the Raiders on the idea of long ball passing. That idea worked for awhile, until defenses figured out a way to take away the pass and force the run.

Later, throwing passes 50 times a game was the vogue. Never mind few of those teams won it all, but the fans had fun in the modern version of flag football.

So the Packers are winning with manageable passes. The key is winning. Who cares how they get there. If they win every game 3-0, it's still a Super Bowl victory and what else matters?

I am predicting a 2 INT performance from 'Sul.

He will bait Hoyer into a few bad decisions and be there to capitalize.