If another team tries to hire Gute, should the Packers release him?

Happy Star Wars Day everyone (May the 4th be with you)! I like most of our corners but, man, Jackson needs to have the light go on. I love T. Williams but I think his diminishing speed/increasing age for a CB makes it unlikely that he is back. Interesting speculation on another site that this year's supplemental draft could have some good players. Anyone know when that is supposed to happen? Stay safe everyone and Go, Pack, Go!

1. CWood was released after 2012. TWill finished his contract in 2014.

2. It's clear that Josh Jackson is a safety or a 2 deep zone CB. He does not have the speed to be a man CB. Either he's been miscast from the beginning in GB, or he'll go on to have a Heyward-like impact after leaving here this next offseason. Neither is appetizing.

3. CB is a sneaky need on the team. King is almost surely gone unless he franchise-tag level balls out this year. At least 1 of Holman and Sullivan needs to become a starting level CB, and for 2021, probably both, for this not to become a weakness (again).

I am hoping they bring Williams back. His game is still pretty solid and behind Alexander and King there is steep drop-off in experience. Jackson has been a big disappointment and seems coaches have lost some confidence what he’s capable. He’s looking more and more like another highly drafted wasted pick. They have some younger guys with potential, so at this point there seems little proven depth behind the starters. Chances of both Alexander and King playing every game based on their history is very low. All the more reason to bring Williams back

Alexander has been a stud. However for him to take the next step he has to start making game changing plays. There was one game last year (i can't remember which), where he had a game ending interception go through his hands. He needs to make those plays.
But he is a stud!

King when healthy is a very good CB. He and Alexander for a really good duo.

Sullivan came out of nowhere last year. He was really good! Hopefully he can continue to get better.

Jackson is the biggest ?. He was a 2nd round pick where many felt he was a first round pick. The question is why hasn't he made it onto the field. Is it that the coaches don't trust him. Is it that he doesn't fit into what Pettine wants to do.
I thought last year when he did play, he played well. So maybe he just needs that opportunity on the field to show what he can do.

The Packers are pretty solid here with Alexander, King, Sullivan.
If they can get Tramon back at a reasonable rate I’d be all for it, he’s a great locker room guy, mentor and a perfect depth player.
Jackson although disappointing is only going into year 3 on a very affordable rookie contract and could have a year 3 emergence. We are all hoping that happens, I for one haven’t given up hope on him.
Holman and Ento showed promise during last years training camp so maybe these guys are hidden gems.
Samuels if you watch his tape plays with a swagger showing gritty coverage, tackling and an “in your face” attitude reminiscent of Al Harris. He didn’t run fast at the combine but it’s going to be hard to cut him.
Optimistic post yes, but hey it’s May. Go Pack!

This year the Packers should be OK. I really expect Sullivan to be a strong contributor and for Hollman to make a difference.
I have to say, I was disappointed in Alexander last year. Yeah he was good, but his play to me wasn't as good as the previous year. Is he a star or a really good CB? Can't answer that right now.
I hope they sign Williams for 1 more year. He did a good job and his experience will be needed before the year is out.
Jackson, he's an enigma...can he play safety? Can he bounce back and actually be a good CB? He's always mentioned in trade talks, but I have to wonder who would want him?
Anyway...good article in a spot where the Packers have some strength and bench.

As Bear said,"sneaky need". If Alexander looked vulnerable at times it's because he drew the top receiver every time. King is a concern for me because of the dropped ints and some lame tackle attempts. Jackson is done, Williams too old. On the bright side , we do have some interesting safety backups that could play nickel and dime.

I think we've seen the best of what this defense has. If King isn't signed. It will be a big mistake. Then it's next year, and next year, and next year. You get the point. I'm tired of drafting Cbs. We just can't keep losing starters. The waiver wire isn't the answer at Cb. Well King is the best answer! Sign Him. Over pay him, whatever. He's just as good as Williams, Hayward, and better then Hyde. Don't let him get away!

I would've listed CB as a significant need coming into this off-season with TWill on the verge of retirement and a hard decision coming on King. That's two of the top 3 from 2019. You can never have enough cover guys. Regardless of what people think of his performance over the years, King's length makes him a valuable defender against big WRs...that will be hard to replace.

Still, Chandon Sullivan has been good, they drafted Hollman who is a little older, and they seemed to like Ento a year ago. Jackson needs to step up: people forget that he had limited experience at the CB position leading up to his being drafted. Many scouting reports indicated that he would need some time to grow into the pro game. Last season, Pettine opted to go with his nickel (TWill, Alexander, King, Savage, Amos) or inject a hybrid (Greene, Redmon, or Campbell) rather than playing a 4th CB. Sullivan was the only other CB to crack that group very much. It could be the health of the DB unit worked against the development of younger CBs.

The signing of a bunch of UDFAs and Canadian players to support the CB group smells vaguely of the Ted approach. Draft capital is always limited (unless the Bills deal you a haul), but a day 2 or early day 3 CB would've been a nice addition.

So your saying it took about 5 years to find 2 starting corners? King is not worth keeping so that leaves Alexander who misses as many big plays as he makes. So I guess next draft back to corner again.

I like our group of CBs top to bottom. There is a lot of talent and great competition at the position pretty much loaded with ball hawks. Jerry Gray is going to have an enormous influence coaching this level of dynamic talent across the board. Gray could well turn out to be one of the most important additions to this coaching staff, and we'll see first hand his impact on players we know and have watched for the last 2-3 years. I'm confident the group as a whole will improve this season under his guidance.

I did not see CB as the really big need position entering the draft with the way Sullivan, Hollman and Ento performed last year. They all showed some serious ball skills, and Sullivan just blew the competition away to become one of the most effective DBs per snap in the NFL last season. I went to watch some of those practices last year, and Ento showed himself a playmaker there, surprisingly so as a converted WR. Impressed the hell out of me. Hollman was rock solid in camp too.

Found Jaire to have regressed a bit last season with some of his decision making and play, but, again, I think Jerry Gray will have him dialed in proper when the season starts. I have total confidence in Jaire, and sophomore slumps happen. Think he's really going to light it up this year.

Kevin King's contract is coming up after this year, but feel he will quite possibly be rewarded with an extension along the way here. I loved seeing him hit the jets last season to lead the NFL in INTs at the position. Been a big fan of him for a long time, and I was happy to see his solid play after coming back from injury to show his true toughness. The guy is a top talent that many fans should take more seriously. Phenomenal ball skills, range, extension and a tough, willing run defender. King is a playmaker. Gutekunst has his hands full deciding who he can afford after the season..

Josh Jackson has instincts and great athleticism. Sadly, he had just 1 year of experience in a zone system at Iowa, but those intangibles that set great players apart don't just go away. I firmly believe Jerry Gray is going to work wonders for his growth into the player many expected this season.

Super stoked for Marc Antoine-Duquoy, though I do believe he will be working more at S where his skills really shine. At 6-3 198, he ran a 4.35... has exceptional range, tracking, ball skills, and does NOT shy away from tackling. From the U Montreal, he was considered the top CB in all of Canada last year, and was a lock as a 1st Round pick in the CFL draft. Had 37.7 tackles, 3 INT and 1 returned for a TD. He brings more toughness to the DB room too, which is great. Has the versatility to play CB.

Stanford Samuels from FSU is another player I think stands a great chance as a tough, physical man CB with all the goods. I wouldn't sleep on this player either.

Who really cares where the players come from? I mean, they can't all be top picks, and those don't always deliver the goods. Tramon was and still is a warrior, the #7 ranked DB in the NFL covering the slot... I have really liked watching Gutekunst load this position up with talent from a number of sources, and he keeps bringin' it.

Jaire Alexander is happy because he knows he'll he won't have to try and tackle AJ Dillon again anytime soon.

5 years to get 2 starting corners? Let King go, we will be back to drafting corners again.

The Packers were incredibly healthy last year. Corner was no exception. Their top 4 settled in for the duration in September. So we, as fans, have no clue about whether the deep depth can play. Guys like Jackson and Hollman did not pass up Sullivan in practice to force their way on the field. But Sullivan played darn good so I don't hold that against them. And he was stuck behind Alexander, King and Williams, who also stayed healthy and played well.

The last good look we got at Jackson was in 2018 when he was a rook with very little college experience. Maybe he's the bust he appears to be. And maybe he's a project that he appears to be. Year 3 will be big for him. Maybe the light goes on, maybe he moves to Safety and maybe he just moves on. We've seen nothing but relatively meaningless preseason from Hollman. Their UDFA haul from this year was pretty good.

If you can't develop talent as a coaching staff, you cannot maintain success. You can get lucky but it won't last. I'm fine with the group they have assembled. There is plenty to work with for the new secondary coach. And their is plenty of the kind of versatility that Pettine loves to use in disguising what he does. If they can't make it work, that's good to know. Maybe it means they need to find someone that can make it work.