Packers Vs Texans - 3 Plays That Make You Go Hmmm

Jersey Al picks out three thought-provoking plays from the Packers' preseason game against the Texans

After re-watching the Packers game, here are three plays that made me go hmmm, for various reasons.

 

Josh Jackson: The one pass in the first half that Jackson got credit for an incompletion, was actually out of the end zone and likely interference that wasn't called.

 

Kylin Hill: Two mistakes in one play here by Hill. First,seeing the defensive end has beaten Cole Van Lanen to the edge, Hill veers slightly off course before he has the ball. But even if he stayed true, look at Hill's right hand. He brings it into his body way too soon, before he even feels a ball there. You can expect to see Hill doing on handoff drills in practice this week.

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Jordan Love: Here you see both good and bad from Jordan Love in one play. The executon of the throw itself was excellent - right on target to Amari Rodgers' hands. However, the pass was dangerous and should not have been thrown. These are the things a young quarterback learns through game experience, something Love was deprived of last season. I hope he can play against the Jets, he needs the live reps.

 

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"Jersey Al" Bracco is the Editor-In-Chief, part owner and wearer of many hats for CheeseheadTV.com and PackersTalk.com. He is also a recovering Mason Crosby truther.  Follow Al on twitter at @JerseyalGBP

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packer132's picture

August 17, 2021 at 06:26 pm

Good insight Al, as always. You could see Jackson grab and then interfer with the receiver, though it was not called. I am glad that he was traded today, though Yiadom graded about the same from PFF last year. Both players needed a change. Dangerous throw by Love, and as you said, he needs reps and practice. Rodgers was not a good QB his first two years, and did not start until year four. This is a deep roster with a difficult schedule. I am optimistic for a fun year of Packer football.

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JerseyAl's picture

August 17, 2021 at 03:24 pm

According to Packers wire: "Yiadom has played in 45 games, with 19 starts. He’s been on the field or 1,400 defensive snaps and 498 special teams snaps."

I think the key here is the special teams snaps. Packers need HELP there.

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JerseyAl's picture

August 17, 2021 at 03:24 pm

And just like that, the Josh Jackson era is over.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 17, 2021 at 03:36 pm

Had high hope's for him...but at safety! Wish him well! A few young DB's must be excited like Ento!

Gutey constantly tweaking this team making it more competitive. Love it!

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jurp's picture

August 18, 2021 at 10:12 am

And there was much rejoicing.

Yay.

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mbpacker's picture

August 17, 2021 at 05:28 pm

Just goes to show how college doesn't necessarily translate to the pros.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

August 17, 2021 at 05:44 pm

Well they sure gave him a chance! He failed to win over the new DC or show reliability or improvement.

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Since'61's picture

August 17, 2021 at 07:28 pm

Part of the problem on the pass by Love is that he is looking towards that spot the entire time before he released the pass. He may not have been staring down the receiver but he was definitely staring down the spot. I also noticed during the game that h stared down his receiver on a number of plays as well. He will need to work on that as he (hopefully) continues to improve.

Cardinal sin for an RB is to veer off without securing the handoff. Almost always causes a fumble unless the QB realizes it and pulls the ball back. Benkert is not experienced enough to realize that yet. After playing HS and College football Hill should know better. It is a correctable issue as long as the coaches stay on top of it.

Jackson's play may have stayed in the end zone if the receiver was able to secure the ball and get his feet down. In any case Jackson could have been flagged for DPI. He's traded away now, maybe the new guy will be able to play.
Thanks, Since '61

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croatpackfan's picture

August 17, 2021 at 03:51 pm

Since that fumble was interaction between Hil and Benkert, not Love...

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Since'61's picture

August 17, 2021 at 07:29 pm

Updated post with Benkert. Thanks, Since '61

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croatpackfan's picture

August 18, 2021 at 03:14 am

It is normal mistake. Lot of us are so concentrated on how Jordan Love plays or will be playing that assumption is he is the main actor in analyzing details from the game...

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Guam's picture

August 17, 2021 at 03:51 pm

Wasn't Love, it was Benkert on the missed handoff. Same critique for Benkert as for Hill - both played HS and college football at their respective positions and both made a mistake. Protect the rock at all times.

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MarkinMadison's picture

August 17, 2021 at 08:31 pm

Agree about the staring part. There were a few plays like the one above that should not have been thrown. Whether it was technically double coverage or not there was more than one play where there were two (or more defenders in the area as the ball arrived.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 17, 2021 at 03:52 pm

And Packers put 2 players on reserve/injured list - Nauta & Thompkins and released OL Zack Johnson. They will sign QB Jake Dolegala, but they need to make another roster cut or put someone on IR.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 17, 2021 at 04:03 pm

Thanks, Al. Those plays made me go Hmmmmm too.

The Jackson play showed why he is gone...he just has poor instincts and cannot recover and is grabby.

Love made a risky decision but wow, nice targeted throw even if telegraphed. He must correct that.

Hill got sloppy.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 17, 2021 at 04:05 pm

J'Mon Moore was cut by Falcons today. He was right that he would not be able to play pro football...

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HarryHodag's picture

August 17, 2021 at 04:56 pm

I was watching NFL Live today and there was a pointed discussion about Trevor Lawrence. Apparently Cleveland's second defensive line nearly ate Lawrence for lunch. Jacksonville has a mediocre offensive line.

I agreed with Keyshawn Johnson who made the point that Lawrence should NOT be nailed down as the starter right away before he learns the pro game. He could be sacked 30 times this year and he said we've seen all too much what happens(Trubisky and Darnold as examples) what happens when bad teams put young quarterbacks in a position to be destroyed. They lose their confidence and forget what got them where they were in college.

Laura Rutledge and Mina Kimes(both of whom I assume never played tackle football) said he has to play because he was so good in college, forgetting, apparently, the quality of play difference between the pros and college. Kimes repeated he was too good to sit. Johnson said he isn't ready and could end up on the rocks. Both Rutledge and Kimes were dumbfounded by this assessment made by a former NFL great wide receiver. Keep this in mind when I refer to the national sports media dopes.

Which brings me to Love. Starting back with Ron Wolf the Packers love to draft QB's to develop to learn the game before they're thrown to the wolves. I think the slow develop approach with Love is the right one as he appears to be ready to play the game, though more work needs to be done.

I won't micro-analyze Love at this point, or the other rookies for that matter. Like your first day on the job, given patience and coaching, you got better at your work. What the rookies need to do is not repeatedly make the same mistakes.

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ricky's picture

August 17, 2021 at 05:09 pm

How many people get the reference to ""Plays that make you go hmmm"? Arsenio Hall, who also had the audience woof at him for some reason. Anyway, the throw by Love to Rodgers was dangerous because the ball took a long time to get to the receiver. If Love can't get more velocity on the ball, he is not a franchise QB. Then again, the coaches were saying he is learning to trust his instincts, and needs to learn to use his natural arm strength to make plays like that. Hopefully they're right.

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HarryHodag's picture

August 17, 2021 at 05:27 pm

Arm strength is what enabled him to make the throw in the first place. We got used to Brett Favre making those kinds of plays.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

August 17, 2021 at 05:47 pm

Yep, Favre and Rodgers both throw into tight windows, and successfully. Rodgers more than Favre. That TD in the Super Bowl win comes to mind for #12. I'm not concerned about one play in the guy's first preseason game, that's for sure.

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JerseyAl's picture

August 17, 2021 at 06:13 pm

Arsenio actually retweeted the CHTV tweet for one of these last year. His tweet? "Hmmm."

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nstewart1's picture

August 17, 2021 at 05:41 pm

For the record: On the Jackson play he may get called for interference (often it is not), but the receiver's knee did land in-bounds.

In any case, he was not making the team, so good to get another lottery ticket.

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Jaqu’eau's picture

August 17, 2021 at 06:13 pm

Nice article. One nit to pick is whether JL should have thrown that pass. Yes, it’s a bit risky, but if he and Amari have more reps/time together, that is a completion. He really puts it where only the receiver can get to it, if only a bit too inside. If that pass is completed we are talking about a great pass. I like that he tries that in pre-season, shows confidence.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 17, 2021 at 06:34 pm

Packers gain about $260K [edit: really $360K] in cap space by swapping Jackson for Yiadom.

Jackson played 556 special teams snaps for the Packers. Yiadom played 498. Maybe the quality of Yiadom's ST snaps was better. IDK, worth a shot.

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marpag1's picture

August 17, 2021 at 07:31 pm

To me it looks like Hill was never expecting to receive the ball at all. It looks like he was expecting play action, and was just running the fake when all of a sudden he's surprised to have a ball in his gut for real.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 18, 2021 at 04:05 am

Hmmm. Van Lanen beaten like a drum by Lawson on the fumble between Benkert and Hill. Van Lanen held and still lost the rep.

Hmmm. Kelly looked bad in just 28 snaps. It took 52 snaps for Nijman to look that bad. Runyan played something like 15 snaps at guard and got beat in pass pro three times. One didn't count as a pressure since Hill threw a quick out to Malik Taylor, but Runyan got beat in 1.9 seconds. Runyan played the rest of his snaps at center, where he had no pass pro issues. Runyan and Myers were the only OL to break 60 with PFF for run grades.

Hmmm. Maybe Patrick thought he should have been the 31st guy not playing?

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flackcatcher's picture

August 18, 2021 at 11:49 am

Come on TGR, you and I know that Patrick is for the ax over the Cap. He stays if none of those can not preform near his level of last year. MLF comments are utter BS on Patrick. Remember he made the same comments in 2019 with the LG competition. And he chose the veteran over the rookie that year. If anything, Patrick's case was made much stronger by how either of his competitors played. Of course MLF has done very little in the run game as a unit, and it showed against a veteran NFL D-line. I'm not at all surprised with the O-line play first preseason game. Frankly MLF got lucky that his QB of the future wasn't mashed to the ground. (And Nijman still sucked at pass pro)

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mnbadger's picture

August 18, 2021 at 12:30 pm

The play that showed good/bad for Jlove has amplified badness if you look from another angle. Devin F is trailing Rodgers on a similar route, but closer to the left sideline and has his man beat by 2 or 3 steps, wide open. Llove decided early to throw to a well covered A Rodgers when a big play was right there in front of him to DF. Again, a teachable moment. GPG!

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4thand10's picture

August 19, 2021 at 05:50 pm

I think Hills was a mental error….looked like Hill was trying to fake accept the hand off because he ran right to what looked like a blocking assignment. Can’t be certain though.

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