"Doubs caught 7 of his 11 targets for 58 yards with a long of 18. He also dropped 2 passes and caught a pass for a 2-point conversion. Wicks caught 4 of 5 for 43 yards with a long of 18. He had a drop. Melton caught 3 of 4 for 18 yards. Reed was mostly invisible again, catching 1 of 4 passes for 6 yards. He had a drop. Heath caught his only target for a 3-yard touchdown. With these drops the Packers will continue to lead the league in drops."

Dear Santa ... Please bring the Packers a #1 WR. I understand Edge, CB, and O-Line (Center) could be viewed as more pressing needs, but a stud WR is right up there too.

I do like what the current WRs do offer the Packers, but not one of them is the guy you can absolutely positively count on to make a play.

I can't believe I saw Wicks not try to get out of bounds "again." HE DID THIS TWICE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON. It's like the guy has never played football before. "GET OUT OF BOUNDS DUMB-ASS...THAT'S FOOTBALL 101!!!

When the season started, everyone was asked what the Packer's record would be? The answers "mostly" ranged from 13-4 to 10-7. So with their record right now at 11-5, no one should be surprised they lost this game!

I guess what surprised me the most is how much the Pack got beat in the trenches both offensively and defensively.

If the draft were held today, what position would be "your" 1st draft choice? I think the Packers have problems everywhere...

We get no pass rush from our front four. Gary paid as much as he is turns out to be just a guy. I thought a couple of those drops should have been charged to Love's continued inability to make accurate routine throws. But we finally have a real inside linebacker, the first since desmond bishop. Cooper is for real. Face it, the Vikings are a better football team than we are and incredibly even at the qb position and much better coached. . why this late in the season, do we still get inexcusable penalties, e.g., covering a wide receiver. or lining up in the neutral zone. turns out that gave them the three points that won the game.

I was worried that Jacobs was hurt when he disappeared in the second half. It gave Wilson a chance to score a TD but really leaves me wondering.

I think they were either running the ball or taking too long to develop their pass plays. Wonder why they weren't using the tight ends more or, as TGR says passing quickly to the RBs? Might have helped open up their D. Keeping them all in as a desperate attempt to give Love a few more seconds wasn't working.

The quick passes that Love threw well seemed to be the ones dropped and were usually on 3rd-down plays. The few drops the Vikings had were always on 1st or 2nd downs and they seemed to catch everything remotely close to them even when covered well.

Hopefully a good wake up call for these youngsters before the playoffs. They have to pick it up a notch if they want to be considered ready for prime time.

Someone do me a favor. I would do it but MLF has blocked me. Oh and that is better blocks than the OL had yesterday. Tell him to stop taking the ball when they win the coin toss. It has done little to help us win. If we have players that play better only when we start with a lead we need new players. Receiving the ball only automatically puts you at a disadvantage because no matter what the defense has less time to rest at halftime.

I know it’s popular to blame Hafley for the failure of the defense but it seems like the blame should be attributed to Gute. Look at his coveted first round picks on defense: Gary-JAG, Jaire-bench, Walker-bench, Stokes<JAG, Wyatt-12 snaps all game, LVN-stiff. Sure, he’s picked up a few pretty good players in later rounds but he’s bombed in round one.

I've learned to not get too 'up' when things go right, nor too 'down' when the team loses. Lets face a few facts:

1)The Packers won't win the Super Bowl or even get there. Why? They don't have the horses to win the race.
It's very clear the Lions and Vikings have more 'blue' or top end players. The Packers have some very good players, just not enough blue. This is clear on the defensive side of the ball. Cooper's play should show this. He's a top-league talent, even as a rookie. The d-line is just average.

2) Love is an above average talent but that may also be a curse. He is good enough but then again, good enough never is. I would open up the quarterback competition next summer. Compare him to Josh Allen or Jayden Daniels. Part of Love's problem is number 3.

3) The need for an exceptional talent at wide receiver. The Packers have a whole bunch of above average guys that don't scare anyone. Jefferson and Addison scare defenses. Watson, the one guy who could on the Packers is hurt too much or has fumble fingers. One way or another a 'scare me' receiver is needed.

4) A Mount Rushmore(or rush less) interior defensive lineman. A mountain of a man who can't be moved.
Edge rusher is a growing concern as well. Again, average across the board on the d-line.

5) Cornerback. They're stuck with Jaire due to his contract but having another exceptional talent there would be good.

This is a reaction to watching the Packers lose five games this year, two each to Detroit and Minnesota and one to the Eagles who are a likely playoff team the Packers will face. They also could travel to Los Angeles where they will face a much improved Rams team or Tampa, a team very similar to the Packers.

But it is Bears week and the one thing that would change my attitude is watching them send Chicago back to hell where they belong.

Not sure what the problem is with the distribution of snaps for the defensive ends. Does TGR think Aron Mosby needs to play more? That doesn't strike me as an improvement. The DE group is looking a lot like the WR group right now--some pretty good players but no one player who has a big impact.

This game was a big disappointment. The best I can say about it is that the comeback felt more authentic than the comeback in the first loss to the Vikings. This time, I didn't think the Vikings throttled it down. They weren't ahead by enough to do so. Still, watching the Packers get thoroughly outplayed for more than three quarters was pretty discouraging. I didn't think the coaching or play-calling had a lot to do with it. When the other team protects their quarterback that much better than you protect yours, you have very little chance of winning. Also, the difference in talent at wide receiver was enormous, and Sam Darnold played great, while Jordan Love was just average.

Now they will go into the playoffs with a puncher's chance to beat anyone, but they sure don't look like a team that is likely to go on a run. Maybe there is still a chance if they get some of these injured players back though. Christian Watson was badly missed. On defense, I'm not even going to count Alexander anymore, but they were without Evan Williams, and his replacement, Zayne Anderson, got knocked out in the first half, so they had to play Javon Bullard at safety. He did not look fully recovered from his ankle injury, and let's face it, he was not playing so great before the injury anyway.

What we saw was a LaFleur team getting shown up as such. A horrendous game plan that makes it harder on the OL, WRs and Love by inflating the difficulty percentage and preventing us getting in rhythm. The O left the D out to dry initially in this game. We again saw that the faith in the IOL is woefully exaggerated and that we game plan on that false evaluation. We don’t learn, just like we didn’t with the 49ers. We don’t change on O either.

We will not beat good teams with a run and long ball approach and slow developing route trees. We actually showed what we can do with a mixed depth element to our routes very late on and suddenly we looked like an O again.

We saw Hafley forced by a lack of rush to play so deep and far off in the secondary that, until late at least, we weren’t even contesting, just trying to keep plays in front of us after the first quarter or so. Thus we gave them yard after yard uncontested largely. We were actually marginally better when we tried to contest and to get the ball at the very end. A lesson we can’t seem to learn and a risk we won’t take to avoid the seemingly inevitable.

We lost the tactical battle going in and again for 3 quarters. That’s 4 times in 4 games against the Lions and Vikings that we lost where our play calling has been a huge factor. This is far from the first year where it had been when it matters.

This team is an echo of LaFleur. It’s talent shows more when we are desperate than when we are on plan against good teams. Our weaknesses carry over from year to year, along with what appears to be a highly self-overrated assessment of players and coaches.

This is what we will be as long as LaFleur is HC. It’s what we have been for 7 seasons and 2 QBs. This team is better on O than he makes it when we face good opposition. Accept it, be perennial ”almosts” or, as I do, realize that the only way to get better is to move on from LaFleur. His genius can benefit others. I am fine with that. Let him make a bad team pretenders.

Let us commit to actually winning the tough ones. Right now he’s the third best motivator and offensive mind in our division. It’s past time to end this. His “genius” we can survive without because it hadn’t won key games and that hasn’t changed and it doesn’t get the most from his players. No, I wouldn’t fear him if he went to the Bears. He’s just not good when and where it matters. He rides the coattails of his rosters. 7 years in that’s not enough.

Why did we go for 2 ? If we don’t get that we need a touchdown, not a field goal to tie ( or win as it turned out.
Along with turning down a short field goal I think MLF needs a new analytics book.
MLF in his 6th year, and Gute in his 8th are both pretty good. The problem is that there are better, much better in the NFL.
I am worried we maxed out against a flawed Cowboy team last year.

The hated Vikings invested a lot of draft capital in their pass catchers. Both Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison are first round draft choices, plus their tight end T.J. Hockenson is yet another first round draft choice. The talent differential compared to most teams and unfortunately, us included, is obvious. It's hard for someone like me who hates that team, yet I have to marvel at the play of those pass catchers. I realize, that the wide receivers are only one part of a "TEAM", but the Vikings have that aspect of the game in good hands...damn it.

I would emphasize that it appeared we had no quick hitting plays to our TEs, Backs, or hot reads to receivers ready for when they had 7 and 8 guys defensively in the box. I am not sure if my perception is accurate without looking at replays, but every team will continue to throw us similar defensive looks, until we break them of that habit.

I was surprised how disjointed the offensive game plan appeared. I know I’m one of the few but I would like to see the first round pick be OL or DL as LVN isn’t doing it!

Regardless - This team can get to the super-Bowl.
1. Walker and Watson must return.
Yes Cooper did good. But the middle was open.

The Vikes frequently blitzed and played man. Why no slants and, if memory serves, only 1 screen to Kraft which worked?

We are a good team, but not a great team. There are 3 great teams in the NFC, and we are NOT one of them. I also don't believe that we can change our football character the day the playoffs start - namely, stupid penalties, slow offensive starts, better pass rush w/blitzes... We've had 17 games to improve those issues and they haven't been fixed.

So some of the die hard fans on this site will call me too critical. I don't give a rats a** what those people think. I express optimism through bold action - not through blind, dreamy ignorant optimism.

Run a short passing offense through Kraft and Jacobs. Get first downs. Give ur defense needed rest. On defense, blitz creatively - not sending Nixon every time. Try different blitz configurations. Try more man press - regardless of Jaire is playing - which he likely won't be. DON'T BE SO DAMNED PREDICTABLE!!!