Packers Snap Counts VS. the Lions

Here's the breakdown of who saw the field against the Detroit Lions and how often:

Here's the breakdown of which Packers players saw the field against the Lions and how often:

(Note: The second set of numbers next to each offensive and defensive player is how many Special Teams snaps they were in on.)

OFFENSE:
E Jenkins G 88 100% 6 19%
D Bakhtiari T 88 100% 6 19%
B Turner G 88 100% 6 19%
A Rodgers QB 88 100%
D Adams WR 78 89%
A Jones RB 75 85%
L Patrick C 68 77% 6 19%
A Lazard WR 67 76% 9 29%
G Allison WR 54 61% 4 13%
B Bulaga T 53 60% 3 10%
J Graham TE 48 55%
J Veldheer T 35 40% 6 19%
M Lewis TE 32 36% 3 10%
M Valdes-Scantling WR 20 23%
C Linsley C 20 23%
J Kumerow WR 17 19% 13 42%
T Ervin RB 17 19% 11 35%
R Tonyan TE 16 18% 18 58%
J Sternberger TE 12 14% 9 29%
D Williams RB 4 5% 10 32%
 
DEFENSE:
D Savage SS 60 100% 11 35%
B Martinez LB 60 100% 7 23%
A Amos FS 60 100% 4 13%
J Alexander CB 59 98% 1 3%
K King CB 58 97% 2 6%
K Clark NT 54 90% 6 19%
Z Smith LB 54 90% 1 3%
T Williams CB 45 75% 3 10%
D Lowry DE 44 73% 8 26%
P Smith LB 41 68% 2 6%
K Fackrell LB 37 62% 12 39%
T Lancaster NT 24 40% 5 16%
C Sullivan CB 22 37% 14 45%
I Campbell FS 18 30% 19 61%
R Gary LB 13 22% 6 19%
K Keke DE 4 7%
O Burks LB 3 5% 22 71%
B Goodson LB 3 5% 6 19%
M Adams DE 1 2% 10 32%
 
SPECIAL TEAMS:
J Jackson CB 22 71%
T Summers LB 22 71%
K Hollman CB 15 48%
M Crosby K 11 35%
J Scott P 11 35%
H Bradley LS 11 35%

 

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jlc1's picture

December 30, 2019 at 10:03 am

With 3 other TEs on the roster how does Graham keep getting the most snaps? The others must look really terrible in practice because Graham's on field performance is well below that of a replacement value TE.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2019 at 10:42 am

That Graham was retained is one reason I am not fully on board with Gute yet. He was a bad signing. Gute compounded the mistake by keeping him. You can really expand the sentiment to the WRs, too. Gute rolled the dice going with the group they took in to camp. He lost.

Same thing happened with the Edge rushers in 2018. Gute did an amazing job fixing it for 2019. I don't think they will have the cap flexibility to make another massive signing. But he must do something to fix it.

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JerseyAl's picture

December 30, 2019 at 10:50 am

I can't blame the Packers for getting whatever they could out of their investment in Graham. With the dead money situation, it made little sense to cut him this year. After this season, it's a different story. Also, they've already started making moves with regards to cap space. They will certainly have money to go out and make some FA signings again.

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December 30, 2019 at 11:27 am

My only observation is that too often it looks like they would get the most out of the Graham investment by leaving him on the bench, that he is a net negative out there. And yeah, they look like they are making moves to move on from him and some others now on the roster. Let's hope they get to depart with a Super Bowl ring!

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December 30, 2019 at 02:02 pm

Except I'd make the case that he's not a net negative as much as people on here like to think. With the exception of that bad drop yesterday, he was actually pretty solid. Multiple chain moving catches, some great chips on Detroit's pass rushers before releasing for his route, and his work in the locker room as a mentor to Tonyan and Sternberger (both guys are on record praising Graham's professionalism and work ethic) make him very valuable. Plus, there's plenty of clips out there that show that his presence, even as diluted as it is now, still draws defenders in and coaches are still accounting for him.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2019 at 03:17 pm

Graham had 4-49 yesterday. That was a huge day for him, statistically. On the year, he was barely above Richard Rodgers levels of production... 38-447-3. He was 4th in catches, 5th in yards and 3-way tie for 3rd in TDs. He's got the 3rd highest cap hit on the team.

Among TEs across the league, he ranked 20th, 18th and 19th respectively. His cap hit among TEs is tops in the NFL.

His blocking has been better than expected this year. I will give him that. But I'll take Lewis for blocking and mentoring at 10% of the cost.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2019 at 01:16 pm

Al,

We'll have to agree to disagree on the sense it made. After watching Graham play in 2018, giving him another $9.0 mil was what made no sense to me. The dead money situation was a complication. But in the end, they would have realized over $5 mil in savings. Guys get cut for far less.

Bottom line is Gute pissed away $13.25 mil to sign Graham in 2018. They could have paid for that in roughly equal parts on the 2018 and 2019 caps. But they decided to piss away another $9 mil in 2019 to keep him. And even that is not what really bothers me. It's monopoly money to me.

What really bothers me is the dead roster spot consumed by someone that was not good at all and on the downhill side of his career. If they have to have "not good at all", at least make them young with the potential to get better.

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JerseyAl's picture

December 30, 2019 at 01:07 pm

Yes, the question came down to would you rather pay him $12.7 million to play or $7.3 million to not play? I would spend the extra 5M and hope you got something back for your money. It's easy to say now that it didn't really work out, but going back in time, I think it was the right decision knowing the limited other pass-catching TE options you had.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2019 at 03:04 pm

That's not the question I asked. They would not have had to pay him one cent in 2019 had they cut him before his March signing bonus. The $7.3 mil was already spent when Graham signed in 2018. The only way it entered into the equation was whether you wanted to rip the band-aid off quickly (all in 2019) or not (split between 2019 and 2020).

The question that I asked was: Is Graham likely to be worth a check for $9 mil in 2019? If you had to wrestle with that answer, I can understand keeping him. I never did.

Hindsight is clear now. The Packers could have replaced him with Evan Baylis---or whoever else---and not been any worse off. They would know more about their younger players. And have more than $10 mil more in rollover cap space to use in 2020.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 30, 2019 at 04:59 pm

I'm with Al on this one. Bottom line is both Graham and Lewis have been ready to play despite their injuries. None of the other TE were. It's that simple. The rest is fantasy football on your part. (Sorry, don't mean to sound.... mean.)

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 31, 2019 at 05:32 am

I agree with Hank. I'd have cut Graham in March before the $5M signing bonus was due. However, while I never thought for an instant that Graham would be worth the $9M he was paid in cash for 2019, I thought he might be worth $4M to $6M. FWIW, OTC suggests he was worth $5.2M in 2019. The decision had to be made before Sternberger was still on the board for GB in the 3rd round. Since he got hurt, that turned out to be moot. I don't get the feeling that Gute was interested in Hockensock, and Fant was picked at 20 and GB took Savage 21st. I favored a free agent. Jesse James, Kroft, Uzomah, and Smith were all busts as receivers, but I suppose they might have had better seasons in GB. For some reason, I have liked Eifert and he would have worked out at $4M (436 yds in 480 snaps - 11 yards less than Graham but much more efficient in terms of yds/snap).

Looking at a bigger picture, there is little evidence that LaFleur's offense is any better for TEs than MM's was. MM played Graham, Kendricks, Lewis, Tonyan 1368 snaps and got 922 receiving yards (.67 yds/snap). LaFleur played TEs 1411 snaps and got 703 receiving yards (.498 yds/snap). [Snaps isn't ideal - yards per route run would be much better.]

I didn't wrestle with whether Graham was worth $9M, I wrestled with whether it was better to overpay Graham by $3M to $5M while looking at Tonyan, Lewis, and Baylis plus a FA as GB's TEs.

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splitpea1's picture

December 30, 2019 at 11:05 am

A rookie mistake with Graham, hopefully. The young WRs showed promise last year, but they've fizzled....I'm sure it will be a priority to get some legitimate playmakers for the passing offense this off-season--the need couldn't be any more glaring. I would like to see them add a speedy WR with reliable hands--don't worry so much about size or blocking ability.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2019 at 05:54 pm

I don't mind the mistake so much. It happens. Like Al said above, when they signed him in 2018, the pickings were slim and the roster was completely without talent.

What I mind is that he compounded the mistake. He could have made it a two year mistake at a total cost of $13.25 but he made it a 3 year mistake at $22.25. If you keep blowing $9 mil on part time players whose biggest claim to fame is staying healthy, pretty soon good players like Casey Heyward and Micah Hyde are not going to be retained because there is no cap space to pay them.

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Cubbygold's picture

December 31, 2019 at 08:56 am

Name one other guy that is on this roster that's a waste of money. Gute cut Mike Daniels to save $9M, a move that nobody saw coming, and proved to be far more valuable than cutting Graham. If anything, Gute is the king of cutting dead weight. He took a gamble on Graham, it didn't work out, he'll fix it in the offseason.

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HankScorpio's picture

January 01, 2020 at 06:16 am

In addition to Daniels, Gute cut Nelson, too. IMO, hindsight vindicated him on both. OTOH, he let Cobb and Matthews play out their final contract at vastly over-inflated prices. He could have eaten some pain on Nick Perry last year but gave him one more shot. It's not exactly using hindsight to cite those contracts either. There were long debates on this site about all of them at the time.

So my view of Gute's track record, including Graham, is that he got 2 of 6 big calls right. That's not exactly royal performance, in my book. It's also worth nothing that most of those contracts were signed under Ted's watch. It's a far different thing to make a call on someone else's bad contract than your own bad contract. That speaks to admitting your own mistakes.

And again, I don't have a problem with a GM making mistakes. They all do. The good ones recognize and correct quickly. They bad ones let their mistakes fester.

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January 01, 2020 at 07:05 am

The other significant bone I have to pick with the Packers cap management falls at Russ Ball's feet, not Gute's feet. Ball reports to Mark Murphy and handles the contracts. Gute reports to Murphy and handles the roster. For that reason, I decided to make the two points separate posts.

In simple terms, it boils down to Ball's penchant to hand out vet min base salaries in the early years of the big contracts. That backloads the contracts and makes the job of the GM more difficult. For example, the big 4 signings in 2019 see their 2020 cap number increase by more than double. That's poor cap management, IMO. Given the way those big 4 have worked out, it will get ignored. But I believe they should be following a model that is more "pay as you go" and less "kick the can down the road". It's a better overall model.

IMO, Russ Ball's dismissal is overdue. He came from the Saints, who had cap problems under his watch. The only reason this Packer team doesn't have cap problems is they have drafted so poorly they had nobody worthy of driving cap issues as their rookie contracts expire. That and Ted famously avoided FA. If they are changing both issues under Gute, they need someone that manages the cap better than Ball.

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mamasboy's picture

December 30, 2019 at 07:38 pm

With the restructuring of Rodger's contract our cap space might be over 50 million.So they might be able to bring in a FA. But they still have to spend on Kenny Clark and hopefully, they'll keep Bulaga He did make a mistake signing Graham, but he would have to admit that mistake, and the fact that he threw 10 million to the wind for a washed up tight end, if he cut him before this season. Graham will be a more cap friendly cut after this year.

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Cubbygold's picture

December 31, 2019 at 08:52 am

I'd suggest your expectations for GM excellence are too high. Given the number of complete home runs by Gute, rolling the dice on a TE for one more year is small potatoes. Maybe Gute expected he'd do better in a new system? Maybe he anticipated that Graham would complement ESB? Maybe he expected Tonyan to require another year to develop before being able to produce? Maybe he was worried that Lewis was serious about retiring in the offseason?

I completely agree that moving on from Graham this offseason will benefit the team. Fortunately it's a big year for TE free agency, lots to choose from. However, over the past 24 months, most other GMs made far bigger mistakes than this one.

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DraftHobbyist's picture

December 30, 2019 at 03:17 pm

He looked still commands the most defensive attention. He does build up a sneaky amount of yards every year. But yeah, he needs to go after this year.

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4thand10's picture

December 30, 2019 at 05:46 pm

I think it was a committed pot poker type situation. They were all in and it was too late to back out :-)But as crappy as he was last year he was actually a top 10 TE...which i would have never guessed. I was watching Kittle last night and i was thinking...how did this dude fly under the radar? At this point I have no idea if Sternberger will turn out or not. But Hockenson had a rather disappointing year for being drafted as high as he was. This year Graham only has 447 receiving yards...which i agree, we could have got that out of anyone.

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GBPDAN1's picture

December 30, 2019 at 10:28 am

So happy these guys get two weeks off prior to the next game to give their bodies a rest.

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zoellner25's picture

December 30, 2019 at 10:32 am

How the hell is Kumerow playing less snaps than MVS? OMG. Also didn't even know Oren Burks was still on the team

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stockholder's picture

December 30, 2019 at 11:21 am

Because he can't keep the ball from getting intercepted!

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fastmoving's picture

December 30, 2019 at 04:01 pm

because MVS is way better than Kumerow. It would help to watch a game or two……
But thats not Kumerows fault, he is just not an NFL WR.

Burks is also way better than you think and if you would watch some games you would know that he is on the team.

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JerseyAl's picture

December 30, 2019 at 04:28 pm

Ah, the good old condescending "watch some games" comment. Always a big fan of these...

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dobber's picture

December 30, 2019 at 06:30 pm

It's right up there with, "...a REAL fan..."

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Packer_Fan's picture

December 30, 2019 at 10:54 am

Comments about the snap count. Packers ran 28 more plays than did the Lions. That is alot. 28 incomplete passes worth. Looks like the money spent on Patrick was worth it as well as picking up Veldheer. Looks like Lazard is becoming a good 2nd WR. That touchdown pass was one that only he could catch with his height and Slay had no chance. Rodgers has to go to him more.

And a comment on Rodgers. If this was Trubisky, everyone would be saying great things about him to bring the Bears back down 14 at half. And this would be the same for many other QB's in the league, so sorry about da Bears comment, We expect so much But for me, I don't care if we keep winning ugly. I hope Rodgers gets hot. For he can lean on Adams, Jones and now Lazard. Go Pack!!

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Cubbygold's picture

December 31, 2019 at 09:01 am

Lazard's emergence is critical for this offseason. Without him, the receiver group would be a complete question mark. Gute can now look into next year with the idea of ESB coming back to join Lazard/Adams, and perhaps MVS if he thinks he's still developing. From there, go out and grab the best receiver that complements that group.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 31, 2019 at 06:41 pm

Lazard is our de facto #2 for next season. MSV, ESB, and Kumerow will be our other WRs.

Remember, we are shifting from a team that threw a lot of passes to a team that uses backs and TEs more. I don’t see WR as being very high on the list of what we need to spend resources for.

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BoCallahan's picture

December 30, 2019 at 10:55 am

So much for getting a quick lead and resting our starters. What’s the deal with M Adams getting 1 snap? Is he that bad? Keke got 4. They must have almost 0 trust or confidence in these guys.

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JerseyAl's picture

December 30, 2019 at 11:05 am

The majority of the time the Packers play with 2DL. Just not a lot of snaps available for Keke and Adams.

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December 30, 2019 at 11:52 am

That is a legitimate reason for Keke's snaps, but Adams was supposed to be our second or third best D-lineman going into training camp. He has clearly been surpassed by Lowery, Lancaster and even Keke. Adams has fallen far and I will be shocked if he is with the team next year.

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Rossonero's picture

December 30, 2019 at 12:15 pm

For a 3rd round pick, that really stinks about Montravius Adams.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 31, 2019 at 06:49 pm

I won’t be shocked. He’s still under contract, he’s cheap, and we don’t have anybody clearly better. He’s our #4 DL right now. We can keep 6 on the 53.

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Lphill's picture

December 30, 2019 at 09:00 pm

I agree Al but the Lions were more run than pass and still only 2 DL and they were getting chunks at a time , go figure .

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December 30, 2019 at 11:11 am

Totally agree with your M Adams/Keke comment. Kenny Clark played a ton and he is our only stud on that D-line. Other than Lowry and a bit of Lancaster, there is little talent or relief for the big man. Not championship caliber in this area.

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December 30, 2019 at 12:12 pm

Great points about the snap counts at WR. Jake didn't make any great plays but he also didn't fumble, bumble or stumble.

Just scary why Jake was inactive v the queens and really got no snaps at TE. From prior games he looks superior to the other three in routes.

Salary is one thing and Jimmy has his contract and would be a great addition as TE 2 or TE 3. Not as TE 1. Buy why Jake can not get a look is puzzling. Kind of like the coaches didn't want to go to Lazard and it took lobbying by Rodgers.

This kind of thing should not be happening.

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December 30, 2019 at 02:53 pm

Spot on, brother.

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JerseyAl's picture

December 30, 2019 at 03:02 pm

Well, first of all, Kumerow played 28 snaps against the Vikings, so not sure where you got that from.

Secondly, no one was more in Kumerow's corner than I going into the season - I thought he would become Rodgers' "Jordy" in terms of being his trusted receiver. Watching Kumerow over this season, I think the issue seems to be that he doesn't get much separation when running his routes. He's been far more valuable as a blocker so that's how the Packers are using him - at least for now.

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AKDan's picture

December 30, 2019 at 10:22 pm

I am a Kumerow fan and have been the entire season. Jake was the most effective blocking WR for a good part of the season and I think his snaps reflected that.
The INT was all on AR12, Jake had beaten the defender and the throw allowed the defender to catch up and make the play.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 31, 2019 at 05:39 am

I think he meant Jace Sternberger since his paragraph is about TEs. He probably wasn't writing about Jake still.

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JerseyAl's picture

December 31, 2019 at 08:20 am

You're right, I didn't see the TE reference.

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December 30, 2019 at 12:20 pm

We'll play New Orleans in Lambeau, almost assured. I think we win. Their offense is scary, but only if you let Thomas beat you. I think Jaire and Savage will solve that problem. I think Z. Smith is on an incredible roll and, with Clark, will terrorize Brees. As for snaps, someone has to tell MLF to stop being such a nice guy. Allison, MVS, and Graham are bad. It's obvious to anyone and everyone. An entire season of proof, and yet he doesn't bench them, as if he doesn't want to hurt their feelings. Well, he'd better toughen up and bench their asses. I think everyone would rather see Adams, Lazard, Kumerow get most of the snaps with Ervin and maybe even call up Grant to play the slot. He can't keep trotting these guys out there. They're just bad. Just stop!

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December 30, 2019 at 02:59 pm

The queens are a dome team also. Similar squads. Should be a close game. La Fleur will have to run more pure WCO vs whichever team wins. They did it to the purple in their haus. Lambeau should be no different. Pack has the edge with bigger WRs on a slow track.

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December 30, 2019 at 04:05 pm

no one would like to see Kumerow more. MVS is a lot better. He has a Chance to be a really good NFL WR. Kumerow is a PS player for reason everyone can see.

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dobber's picture

December 30, 2019 at 06:33 pm

Looks like the game plan was to play a lot more 11 personnel this week than they did the last couple weeks. That puts your #3 WR on the field (apparently Allison).

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December 30, 2019 at 12:39 pm

I’m surprised at the low counts for Gary and Sternberger, looks like M Adams is done in Green Bay , you can always find a big body in the draft. Call me crazy but I think we see some different personal packages in the playoffs . Which means less Graham.

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December 31, 2019 at 09:08 am

I noticed Gary on the field early, which must mean he didn't get many snaps after the game got real and a 14 point deficit put a loss as a real possibility. Just hasn't earned that trust yet.

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December 30, 2019 at 01:29 pm

I was really jacked about Montravius heading into the year, apparently the Packers disagree. Year 3 things should be clicking. The Packers will likely see if Keke progresses or they draft a DT.

Sternberger/Tonyan need more snaps than Graham. He..is....Done.

I would like to see the packers draft a QB, maybe Eason from Washington or hopefully Newman from Wake Forest should he choose to enter the draft. 6'4" 230 Dual threat with a cannon and good accuracy. The Packers would have a shot at either.

Does Oren Burks play for the Packers still???? Geez they do not trust him at all.

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December 30, 2019 at 07:51 pm

Yes you're right, Graham IS done. No, Oren Burks DOES NOT play for the Packers, he sits on the sidelines, just like the Gatorade barrel.

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December 31, 2019 at 08:54 am

wow, completely forgot about Burks. Sad, considering the hype train that was going just 18 months ago.

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December 30, 2019 at 01:25 pm

When Graham is still getting more snaps than Lewis, Tonyan and Sternberger there are only two possible explanations. One is Graham is being played for political purposes as it would make whoever approved his money look like a dumbass as he clearly shouldn't be the highest paid TE in the league.. OR coaches are just blind. I'm leaning towards the former..

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December 30, 2019 at 02:05 pm

Or, and hear me out here, he's the best option. Lewis is still more often than not just a blocker and Tonyan and Sternberger are learning how to be TEs. Even when Graham is winding things down for his career, defenses are still accounting for him and it's opening things up for the in breaking routes for guys like Lazard. Plus, he's got a rapport with 12 that the other TEs don't have. He's even improved his blocking this year and has gotten a ton of praise from his position mates for his work ethic and professionalism.

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Bure9620's picture

December 30, 2019 at 03:24 pm

He may be the best option, but I doubt defensive coordinators are really game planning for him. He is slower than molasses in January now. I would actually prefer Lewis, he can't move anymore either but he catches everything.

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December 30, 2019 at 04:52 pm

Lewis moves a hell of a lot better than Graham. There was a play earlier in the year, where he looked as good as Finley. Without the drop, of course.

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December 30, 2019 at 01:39 pm

Rodgers finished with a career-high 28 incompletions

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December 30, 2019 at 01:57 pm

What a season! Exceeded my expectations, and you can't "expect" more than that! Thanks to all the team for all the hard work they've put in to give us so much joy and jubilation! Beating the Bears and Vikings twice is cool as hell.

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December 30, 2019 at 04:53 pm

Yea,man

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December 31, 2019 at 06:28 am

Given that this was the last game of the regular season, a look at the snaps taken on defense by Josh Jackson (0), Montravius Adams (1), and Oren Burks (3), (and none of these guys are rookies), suggests they will be off the team, probably before next season, but definitely as soon as they can put a better guy in there. I had high hopes for all three, but every GM has his misses to go along with his successes.

The one thing I don't really understand is that Allison is still getting so many snaps. His total yardage this year is under 300yds. Kumerow has done more with less snaps. At least Lazard has seen his snaps increase throughout the season. I don't see Lazard as a no.2 receiver, but he could easily be a no.3 outside receiver. The Packers really want to upgrade at no.2 and in the slot. I'd wiill be interested in seeing how ESB fares there, when he comes back next year (and I'd like to see how he handles outside duties as well), but there are also some seriously quick WRs in the draft this year who could elevate that position.

PS. I thought Veldheer would be toast whne the Packers picked him up..............but he played just fine (35 snaps) when Bulaga went out. Patrick wasn't awful at Center (68 snaps), either.

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December 31, 2019 at 09:12 am

Agree. Adams, Lazard, ESB and a day 2 rookie slot receiver will make a nice group. MVS has potential, so potentially give him another year. Go out and upgrade TE1. That's a rather big upgrade for this team, with little/no hit to the salary cap considering the loss of Graham.

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December 31, 2019 at 07:37 am

I am sending this site my gratitude. It’s been a great year with a lot of insightful articles. Thank you!

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