Our No. 1 draft pick gets 3 snaps in the biggest game of the season. A game where SF is crushing the starters. Speaks volumes.

MVS with only one snap on offense also lets you know he is not part of the future. Still like Kumerow and Lazard, but ...

MVS one snap. "They just need to play". - Aaron Nagler.

Gary could have gone in as an inside linebacker , he can pursue sideline to sideline, watch his college film, I now believe Pettine is the problem, Romeo Crennel is available.

Packers need to get tough and fast and play really aggressive and start playing old smash mouth football to compete at the top level of the chiefs and 49ers

Al--Appreciate this addition to the CHTV regular post game articles this season. Keep it on the slate for 2020!

Lots of scapegoating going on. I think we can all agree we’re going to have to improve the run defense but there’s a lot of different ideas on how to do that.

Most of our front seven is under contract for next year. Fackrell and Martinez are FAs and will attract good offers in FA. If we let them both leave that’ll be 2 of the top 7 linebackers we need to replace plus any improvements to the DLine or secondary. And that’s just the defense.

I think we should draft an ILB in the top 100 AND keep Martinez. There’s no doubt we could use a monster horse on the defensive line. This was an above average defense in 2019; we should strengthen it instead of blowing it up.

Since Matt LaFleur inherited Coach Pettine,there must be candidate out there for La Fleur to choose from besides Romeo C. Anyone have a handle onit?

Thanks JerseyAl, and all CHTV writers for feeding us material all season for arguments. Really enjoy this site and the rest o yah posters. It was a amazing season in some ways, and aggravating in other ways, but I think we're all proud to be packer fans still, and what fans would we be if we didn't consider ourselves the best of the best armchair coaches. Cheers to all, and we'll see a SB of 2 very deserving teams. Please no mock drafts, at least for a few more weeks...…. or months.

We got bullied all over the field like a bunch of pussys

Your featured Snap Count showed one of the most amazing seasons of good health. Just consider the Oline often had 100% of snaps, by all 5 starters. Glad for KKing and BBulaga and AJones, all 3 were considered too fragile and injury proned.

This is my list of players who I think should have got more snaps and who should have had less snaps.

Not enough snaps:
-MVS should have received more snaps IMO. Especially when we needed a deep threat. We could have really used his speed.
-Sternberger I felt could and should have had a lot more snaps as well. He is a faster TE that could have provided something to the passing game.
-Gary. I don't get how he got 3 snaps. Especially when they were struggling to stop the run. Gary needed more reps.
-Burks. When they were getting gashed outside, they should have brought him in to see if he could cover the ground that Goodson couldn't.
-Keke really played well once he came in. They relied on the starting 3 way to much. Keke came in and helped stuffed the run when he was in there. He is a guy to watch next year btw.
-Jackson. After Alexander went out I would have liked to have seen Jackson come in. He is a more physical player and would have been better on the outside against the run.

To many snaps:
-Goodson. He is ok at run stopping up the middle. But when SF was running outside down after down, that is just not Goodson's strength. They should have used Burks, or should have done what they did late in the game and brought in an extra OLB.
-Allison continued to get way to many snaps. He just provides nothing. MVS's speed should have been brought in and used more instead of Allison.
-Lancaster/Lowry. As physical as the 49ers were they needed to get the backups in more and rotate more. Keeping everyone fresh would have been a better idea.
-Fackrell had 20 snaps. Not a ton, but when Gary had 3, he should have hade a few less.

I cringed when they drafted Gary. Based on his play at Much I expected nothing and 5hats what we got. My concern for pack fans: Gutt decided on him pre combine. Thus, don't expect a lot of help in the draft if he is still on board.
The top mgmt of the pack should be dam embarrassed.

Does anyone else think the nfc and afc championship trophies are a joke?
Roger goddell’s salary last reported was 32 million in 2015 and the nfl can’t afford better trophies
Hideous

Richard Sherman post game comments on Packers
There was a ton of confidence,” Sherman said. “We took our starters out in the fourth quarter of that (37-8) game. It could have been worse. And we knew that. I think they were trying pump themselves up. They were trying to hype themselves up talking about a revenge game. Like they weren’t coming in with an advantage into the game (in November). We were coming off a battle with Seattle and they were coming off a bye.

“So saying ‘payback’ -- when you stay ready you don’t have to get ready. They were trying to hype themselves up like ‘Man, we’re going to be ready this time.’ You weren’t ready the first time. And that was in front the whole country. That was a Sunday night game. That wasn't just a middle-of-the-day, one o’clock game. It kind of bothered us a little bit. They were like, ‘Oh my God, we’re going to be ready this time.’ Do you not take the game seriously? When do we not take games seriously in the regular season? If you had won that one, you would have had the one seed and we would have been going to Green Bay. But, hey, that wasn’t that big a deal. You’re going to be ready this time.”

I have to agree with many on this board about Gary. Something just doesn't make sense. How could your first first round Draft choice not see the field in this game? My suspicions are as follows:

1) Before the draft there was talk Gary had a shoulder problem. The packers management knows this and is waiting until the off season for him to have surgery. They as usual were not honest with the fans...sound familiar?

2) He's not that smart and can't grasp the defense and his assignments. Needs more time to learn his "new" position" and will work it eventually out.

3) He's a bust! Just wasn't that good and which has been a recurrent theme with the scouting department (which is not very good)

The real problem here is no. 3. Bad talent evaluation. This last draft 2 players contributed to any real degree the rest....let's see what next year produces....i'm skeptical.

Gary was the number 1 high school prospect in the country , he has the athleticism to succeed , let’s not give up on him yet, he is young and raw . I think we see much improvement next season .

MVS 1 Snap, what a waste of a roster spot he is!

Gary, looking like another wasted draft choice!

Debo Samuel would have looked good in Green & Gold, maybe I should be picking those draft choices with my dart board haha!

When does the Fire PETTINE train come around?
I would like to jump on board!

Overall fun season though and seriously they did better that most of us thought.

Hope they can make some moves to get them over the hump and make up for Rodgers declining physical talent.

Frustrated today but after a day of mourning and a half bottle of Jim Beam and some beer chasers things will start to look up for Fall of 2020.

Rah, Rah.....whatever.......

That is F’in all....

Fans just being fans. Last year the Packers were a complete mess. The Coach was fired during the season. We didn’t come anywhere near a playoff spot.

The next year the team wins 13 games during the season. Wins a playoff game and plays in the NFC Championship game. Many on here would have laughed (and Did) if someone before the season would have predicted it! Many of you predicted 7-9 and Worse!

Now, what do you read on here? Defensive Coordinator should be fired. Packers can’t evaluate talent. Our 21 or 22 year old #1 draft pick is a complete bust. Packers aren’t tough enough. It’s pathetic. I doubt some of you are really fans.

Sure some changes are inevitable. Some players weren’t good enough. However, Gute pulled off a magic act to get us this far. How about a little perspective as to how far this team has come and what a great ride this season was. We have a solid GM and a now more experienced 2nd year coach. I expect that we might find a free agent or two. I expect we might draft a play maker or two in the draft. Next year we are going to be right in the mix.

For those already declaring that Gary is a bust need to go back and watch the tape of the extremely limited snaps he was in. Out of the maybe 10 snaps/game, Gary did make an impact and was putting pressure on the QB. The guy did have 2 sacks as well for hardly seeing the field. As of right now I think there is a certain favoritism going on in the clubhouse for seniority. Look no further than GMO and Fackrell who both were given more snaps than they deserved. It would have been nice to see MVS and Gary get those snaps instead. Fortunately both Fack and GMO will be adios after this season.

It seems clear that MVS is odd man out in 2020. Who knows what'll happen to Equanimous St. Brown too.

What good is Rashan Gary if he never plays? I get that we have the Smiths at OLB, but then put him at ILB, GET HIM ON THE FIELD!! He'll never learn from the bench!

And Montravius Adams. Wow. 6 snaps for a 3rd round DT out of Auburn. It's clear that he's nearly toast as well. So much all the pre-season talk about him progressing. What a joke.

Other than drafting a WR, once again the Pack have to draft more talent on defense. Check out SF, they drafted at least 3 starters. And they all had impact games against the Packers. Lynch has a better eye for talent. So another year to get more impact players though free agency and maybe hit on one or two rookies.

Drop Pettine, Martinez, Graham and restructure Rodgers. Perhaps they think about trading Rodgers to get enough players through the trade to raise the overall talent. And get enough for Rodgers while they can. Take a hit for one or two years and then be ready to make a run at the Super Bowl. Pick up a veteran QB that still might be able to guide the Pack while they wait for a rookie QB to develop,

Lets not give up on Gary, compare his stats to the no.4 pick Clelin Ferrell.

Ferrell: Tackles 38, Solo 24, Sacks 4.5, Fumble recovery , On 62% of Defensive Snaps
Gary: Tackles 23, Solo 13, Sacks 2.0, Fumble recovery 1, On 24% of Defensive Snaps

Great season compared to last 2 years GPG!

If you have a good player, you play him! You don't play seniority. There has to be a reason Gary didn't play more snaps. In my previous post I mention some thoughts on him. i would certainly love to have him "Bloom" into an All Pro. Something not "Kosher" here we just don't know what it is!

The scariest part of the snap counts is the DL snap counts and Goodson's.

DL 151 snaps/55 plays = 2.75 DL on the field.
ILB 99 snaps/55 plays = 1.80 ILB on the field. Goodson: 71% of snaps.
OLB 126 snaps/55 plays=2.29 OLBs on the field.
6.84 front seven guys on the field.

Presumbly Z. Smith played some snaps inside on the line.

That suggests to me that Pettine's personnel choice was to play his best run-stuffing players a lot, and in a true 3-4 defense. And GB still got trucked.

It could still be a coaching problem rather than a personnel problem. Perhaps the players didn't have the right reads or keys. Martinez has been quoted that the defensive players didn't understand what SF was trying to do. We know that SF was trying to run, so he is going deeper. IIRC, 3-4 defenses are supposed to be good against the run, no?

IDK.

*I know that my math is off above and should be Gary has three times as many TFL as Fackrell whereas I wrote just twice. Too lazy (got bumped off the thread to edit it again.