Packers Snap Counts vs. Detroit: Week 1 Of 2025
Packers defense dominates the Lions.

The Packers elevated Micah Robinson from the practice squad. The healthy scratches were OL Donovan Jennings, TE Ben Sims, and DL Warren Brinson. So, Stackhouse got the nod over Brinson. Nate Hobbs, Zayne Anderson, and Barryn Sorrell were inactive due to injury. Malik Willis and Micah Robinson were active but did not play.
OFFENSIVE LINE: (5.00)
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Walker | 48 | 100 | 5/21% |
| Jenkins | 48 | 100 | |
| Banks | 43 | 90 | 4/17% |
| Rhyan | 33 | 69 | 5/21% |
| Tom | 30 | 62 | 3/12% |
| Morgan | 20 | 42 | 5/21% |
| Kinnard | 15 | 31 | 5/21% |
| Belton | 3 | 6 | 5/21% |
The offensive line was very good as pass protectors. The statisticians were a little unkind to Detroit, listing them with just 2 QB hits and no sacks. I thought Aidan Hutchinson had 3 QB hits. Nevertheless, the offensive line gave Jordan Love ample time, which led to several successful deep shots.
The run blocking left much to be desired. The Packers finished with 78 yards on 25 carries, a 3.1 yards/carry average. A lot of the success came in the second half. The Packers still cannot be confident that they can gain a yard on third and fourth down. DJ Reeder has been clogging the interior for many years and it looks like first round pick Tyleik Williams can play in the NFL. The Packers converted 4 of 10 third down opportunities and they converted their only 4th down opportunity, gaining a yard on 4th and one.
Rhyan and Morgan alternated at right guard. When Tom left the game due to a hip injury, Darian Kinnard was first up off the bench at right tackle. Kinnard gave way to Belton in garbage time. When Banks left the game due to an ankle injury, Morgan moved to left guard.
TIGHT ENDS: (1.60)
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Kraft | 44 | 92 | 6/25% |
| Musgrave | 17 | 35 | 6/25% |
| Fitzpatrick | 15 | 31 | 3/12% |
Tucker Kraft caught 2 passes for 16 yards including a 15-yard laser from Jordan Love for a TD. Musgrave caught one pass for 4 yards. Brian Branch is a good player, and he came up and made a good open field tackle on Musgrave. I am still hoping to see Musgrave make someone miss or break a tackle. Jon Fitzpatrick caught 1 pass for 2 yards. The Packers used Fitzpatrick and RB Chris Brooks for blocking quite a bit and the tight ends did quite a bit of chipping before running their routes.
RUNNING BACKS: ( 1.11)
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Jacobs | 42 | 88 | 1/4% |
| Brooks | 9 | 19 | 16/67% |
| Wilson | 2 | 4 |
Jacobs gained 66 hard yards on 16 carries for a 3.5 yard average. Jacobs had 8 rushing yards in the first half but added 54 yards in the second hafl. He added 1 reception for 4 yards and more importantly, a great pick up in pass pro that led to a deep pass completion. Once again, Jacobs got yards out of nothing, including on his 3-yard touchdown run. Brooks caught one pass for 2 yards, though he did well to just catch such an errant pass, and he had 3 assisted tackles on special teams. Wilson gained 4 yards on a garbage-time carry.
QUARTERBACKS: (1.00)
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Love | 48 | 100 | |
| Willis | DNP |
Love completed 16 of 22 passes (72.73%) for 188 yard (8.55 yards per attempt), and 2 TDs. Love had no interceptions, though he had one that was erased by a Detroit penalty. His laser over the middle for a touchdown to Kraft was a big time throw. The Packers continue to be good at completing deep passes. They completed four passes for 19 yards or longer. Love's thumb did not seem to cause any trouble on handoffs. The only drop in the game was a would-be interception by Alex Anzalone.
WIDE RECEIVERS: (2.30)
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Doubs | 34 | 71 | 1/4% |
| Golden | 23 | 48 | 2/8% |
| Wicks | 22 | 46 | |
| Reed | 18 | 38 | 3/12% |
| Heath | 11 | 23 | 3/12% |
| Williams | 3 | 6 | 3/12% |
Romeo Doubs led the Packers with 68 yards including a 48-yard bomb early that made it clear to Detroit that the Packers were going to take some deep shots and could connect. Reed caught 3 of 5 targets for 45 yards including a 17-yard touchdown pass. Reed beat Terrion Arnold twice for big gains. Reed may have been on a pitch count due to his recent foot injury, but he also only played in 3 wide receiver sets. He had a nice 20 yard punt return to give the Packers excellent field position at the Detroit 36 yard line. Matthew Goilden caught both of his targets for 16 yards, all in the first quarter. Love only completed 4 of 6 attempts for 21 yards in the second half, so all of the pass catchers did most of their damage in the first half.
DEFENSE:
The defense held Detroit to 13 points, which included a garbage time touchdown late in the fourth quarter. The defense does not have any really weak starters. Going into training camp, I worried that perhaps they lacked enough difference-makers. They managed to hide McDuffie, while Bullard was the other defensive player who had an up and down game. He had to cover LaPorta quite a bit, and at times he did an admirable job. I thought 8 of Goff's 31 completions came with Bullard in coverage. Some of those completions came in zone coverage where Bullard was simply the closest player rather than necessarily at fault. Valentine threw his body around and was physical in run support. The Packers will have options when Hobbs returns.
DEFENSIVE TACKLE: ( 1.88)
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Wyatt | 49 | 73 | |
| Wooden | 35 | 52 | 3/12% |
| Brooks | 34 | 51 | 9/38% |
| Stackhouse | 8 | 12 | 4/17% |
Wooden led the defensive tackles with 6 tackles (3 solo), 2 tackles for loss and 1 QB hit. Wyatt had 3 tackles (1 solo), 1 sack and 3 QB hits. Stackhouse had an assisted tackle. Karl Brooks had no statistics. The defensive tackles throttled the Lions' offensive line. The Lions gained 46 yards on 22 carries, a 2.1 yard average, with 14 of those yards coming on the individual brilliance of Jahmyr Gibbs. The tackles got some penetration at times, providing some pressure up the middle. I am not yet willing to anoint the defensive tackles becasue the Lions interior offensive linemen were question marks. Graham Glasgow is a long-time NFL player but he is below average more often than average. Detroit's guards were Christian Mahogany, 6th round pick in the 2024 draft who played 65 snaps last year, and Tate Ratledge, a second round pick in this year's draft. They can only play the guys opposite them.
EDGE: (2.12)
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Gary | 47 | 70 | |
| Van Ness | 36 | 54 | 11/46% |
| Parsons | 30 | 45 | |
| Enagbare | 21 | 31 | 12/50% |
| Cox | 8 | 12 |
The Edge guys, on the other hand, played very well against a pair of high quality offensive tackles. Gary was solid with 7 tackles (3 solo), 1.5 sacks, a tackle for loss, and 3 QB hits. Van Ness had an encouraging game with 4 tackles (1 solo), 0.5 sacks, 1 TFL, and a quarterback hit. ESPN listed Van Ness with 4 pressures. Enagbare had 2 assisted tackles. Parsons had 1 solo tackle, 1 sack, 1 tackle for loss and 1 QB hit. ESPN listed Parsons with 3 pressures, including a pressure on the pass Evan Williams intercepted. Cox got hurt fairly early and did not return. He had no statistics. The edge was set and there was plenty of pressure with just 4 rushing the passer.
LINEBACKERS: (2.29)
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Walker | 67 | 100 | 3/12% |
| Cooper | 67 | 100 | 3/12% |
| McDuffie | 18 | 27 | 18/75% |
| Hopper | 1 | 1 | 15/62% |
| Niemann | 0 | 0 | 15/62% |
Edgerrin Cooper had an outstanding day. He finished with 12 tackles (8 solo), and he was everywhere. Quay Walker had a fine day with 9 tackles (6 solo), a tackle for loss, and 2 passes defensed. Walker's run fits looked good, and his coverage was decent. I was against exercising Walker's fifth-year option because I do not believe he is worth the roughly $15M that two linebackers (Demien Sherwood and Nick Bolton) recently signed for. If he plays well enough to change my mind, that would be great. McDuffie had 3 tackles (1 solo). The Packers sucessfully hid McDuffie for the most part by limiting his coverage snaps. Hopper has a lot of season left to show everyone what he can do.
Niemann had no less than 3 assisted tackles (1 solo) on special teams. He looks like a wonderful signing. Niemann led the Chargers in special teams tackles in 2021 and 2024 but they released him. Houston signed him to a 2 year, $6M deal but they released him on August 26, taking a $3.25M dead money hit. There is no information as to how much the Packers are paying Niemann. The linebacker room looks chocked full of talent. I was worried that the Packers would not release Isaiah Simmons, but they did, and I was surprised and concerned when they released Christian Welch, but he passed on to the practice squad.
DEFENSIVE BACKS: (4.71)
| Player | Snaps | % | STs |
| Nixon | 67 | 100 | 4/12% |
| Valentine | 67 | 100 | 8/33% |
| Mckinney | 65 | 100 | 10/42% |
| Bullard | 59 | 88 | 11/46% |
| Williams | 56 | 84 | 10/42% |
| Melton | 0 | 0 | 12/50% |
| Olapado | 0 | 0 | 11/46% |
| Hadden | 0 | 0 | 2/8% |
| Robinson | DNP |
Valentine and Nixon (with help from a good pass rush) shut down Detroit's wide receivers, including St. Brown ($30M per year) and Jameson Williams ($27M per year). Valentine was physical in run defense. He gave up a touchdown reception but TeSlaa made an incredible catch despite excellent coverage by Valentine. None of the other cornerbacks played a defensive snap. McKinney and Bullard were the starting safeties, as the Packers started the game in a base defense. Bullard moved to the slot when the Packers were matching in nickel and Williams came in at safety, with McDuffie and Hopper leaving the field. Bullard had 9 tackles (7 solo) amd McKinney had 5 tackles (2 solo). Evan Williams had 3 tackles (1 solo) and an interception.
SPECIAL TEAMS:
Whelen looked worth every cent of his new deal, reportedly for 2 years and $6M. He punted 3 times for a net of 48.3 yards and landed 2 of them inside the 20. He flipped the field once and pinned Detroit deep in their own territory. Detroit was unable to move the ball and Reed had a nice 20 yard punt return to the Detroit 36 yard line, setting up a field goal. McManus made all three of his point afters and made both of his field goals.
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Comments (44)
Thegreatreynoldo
September 08, 2025 at 04:45 am
I used a photo of Carrington Valentine because Hobbs will return soon and then the Packers will bury Valentine on the depth chart. This might be my last chance to use Valentine's photo. Obviously, Edgerrin Cooper was deserving, and Parsons would have worked. LVN had a good game.
I really liked the ILB room. The Edge group looked deep. I really like Brenton Cox, but he may be inactive for a lot of these games.
I am surprised the Lions did not spend a little money to get an IOL to supplement what they had to know would be a downgrade from 2024. They have $33M in cap space this year and yes, they are $32M over the limit next year, but they have tons or places to generate cap space. There weren't many good OL available in free agency, which is why GB overpaid for Banks and MN overpaid for Wil Fries and to a lesser extent, for Ryan Kelly. Chicago traded picks and paid to obtain two veteran offensive linemen. MN plays Chicago Monday night, so we will get our first inkling how those moves look.
4 of 6 passes in the second half. that is really conservative. Love seemed to turn off his mind a little and just call runs in the second half. This RPO (link below) screams for a pass.
https://x.com/Nate_Tice/status/1964813199871746316
Guam
September 08, 2025 at 07:02 am
I was pleasantly surprised when the Packer front seven just stuffed a very good Lion rushing attack. The Packer DTs held up well against the Lion IOL which had been a big question mark before the game. Time will tell whether it was a good game by the Packers DL or a bad game by the Lion IOL, but it sure was a good start to the season.
Parsons has gotten a lot of press, but I thought Gary and LVN played very well with and without Parsons in the lineup. If that success continues, it will give Hafley the option of moving Parsons around including some looks at LB in a 4-3 set.
Given the overall success of the DL, perhaps a tip of the hat to Covington, the new DL coach, is appropriate. Hope it continues.
LambeauPlain
September 08, 2025 at 07:50 am
Credit to Covington? Why? Because Wooden had a career game...Wyatt played like a #1 draft talent...Gary looked like he's one of the best rushers in the NFL and Van Ness's rumored views he was breaking out this season, seem true? Because Covington was able to coach up Parson's quickly and turn him lose to produce successful impact plays?
Coach Covington, I salute you! Nice hire Haf!
dobber
September 08, 2025 at 07:53 am
Had me goin' for a minute, there... ;)
SicSemperTyrannis
September 08, 2025 at 01:17 pm
That's an AC/DC song, right?
For those about to take belt to ass, we salute you
Welcome to Green Bay, Coach Lion tamer!
PackEyedOptimist
September 08, 2025 at 07:55 am
I (and many of us) don't understand why Valentine isn't a presumed starter at CB.
Parsons, Cooper, Gary, LVN, Quay. Wyatt and Wooden (?!). And we haven't even added in the potential of Sorrell and Hopper, yet. (and I'm a little curious about how Nick Niemann would do, given the speed he showed on ST)
This front seven is going to cause a a lot of premature tosses by QBs!
Coldworld
September 08, 2025 at 09:02 am
For me, Valentine was the best CB out there. We know he can cover, but as TGR observed, in this game he added consistent physicality.
Hobbs back will make us better in the slot. Not full time, but there are times when Bullard is being asked to do things he shouldn’t be. Having Valentine on the field is a plus, so it’s something to Welcome even if Nixon remains the nominal number one. Williams needs to be the second starting S.
To me though, the standout play from a position on D was the not the DL but the ILBs despite Gary and Parsons showing what speed and agility can unlock. Cooper and Walker looked to be being used aggressively on the ground, were all over the field and covered well. We will only see more of Hopper. This ILB group is exciting and its use is as well. It’s been a long time since I could truly say that.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 08, 2025 at 01:26 pm
"Cooper was everywhere"
That was my reaction from initially watching this game, so I'm glad to see TGR agreeing with me. I also thought it looked like we have a very good TEAM, everywhere! Despite ample mistakes and room for improvement. I thought Quay played very well with Cooper last season, and that trend only seems to be improving.
I don't know anything about Nate Hobbs' status but it will be nice to add him; I agree Valentine should be on the field. That we can afford to keep Ballantine on the PS is a very good sign!
dobber
September 08, 2025 at 07:55 am
"MN plays Chicago Monday night, so we will get our first inkling how those moves look."
I'm guessing that's going to be a very sloppy game.
That said, I was impressed by how cleanly the Packers played yesterday, especially on pentalties given the rate at which flags were flying across the league. There were plenty of holds on both sides that didn't get called, though.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 08, 2025 at 01:30 pm
Our ST cost us significant yardage via penalties. The taunting penalty on #1 was poor sportsmanship by the refs. I thought we were ROBBED on the coach's challenge, I never saw the Lions' receiver's second foot on the ground inbounds; maybe I missed it?
Ya_tittle
September 08, 2025 at 08:40 am
Solid analysis
Thegreatreynoldo
September 08, 2025 at 04:54 am
Now that I am looking at the Tice tweet, I see where Field Yates indicates that Jahmyr Gibbs' 10 receptions for just 31 yards is the least yards for a player with at least 10 receptions in history. I saw Coldworld note this in Gut reactions as well. So yeah, things were pretty suffocating and Goff just checked down endlessly, perhaps because of the synergy between a pass rush and fast ILBs.
T7Steve
September 08, 2025 at 06:26 am
I was concerned about the run blocking as well, TGR. I thought they did improve greatly in the second half.
Do you know what ST play Jacobs played on? I didn't see him. I was surprised to see that unless it was an onsides kick and he's on the hands team.
Coldworld
September 08, 2025 at 09:17 am
I thought the run blocking looked uncoordinated, rusty if you like. This is perhaps understandable due to the lack of practice in meaningful circumstances, changes in positions and a new LG and, importantly, the injuries to Banks and Jenkins in preseason forcing continual additional position and personnel shifting.
The surprise to me was how good the pass pro was. It’s interesting though that, even with Kinnard in, Detroit didn’t pose much of a threat. How good was this test? Kinnard wasn’t impressive as a T in the summer by all accounts. It is at least something to be aware of as the Commanders look much more potent.
To me, Rhyan was better than Morgan at RG. I do wish we’d stop this rotation and play one and let the whole group settle. That should help in the run game. On Thursday we may be forced into that by injury. Will Kinnard really start at RT if Tom can’t go? Maybe he has to if Banks is also down, but if not surely they go with Morgan?
It’s notable that we used Brooks and Fitzgerald quite a lot and almost entirely to try to lead block—neither did so particularly convincingly, but that takes Musgrave off the field in 2 TE and perhaps Kraft too in some personnel groups. We need to settle our line as soon as health allows and reduce the need for the extra lead blocker over a weapon. On Thursday injury may mean that’s not practical, but let’s hope Banks and Tom will be healthy.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 08, 2025 at 01:35 pm
I thought Kinnard played VERY well! Of course we want our #50 back at full strength ASAP; I was really worried when he left but Kinnard made that pretty seamless.
dobber
September 08, 2025 at 07:56 am
Montgomery has been the Packers-killer of those two backs, and I was concerned about the Packers' ability to keep him from getting going between the tackles. Gibbs has to operate in space, and I worried less about him for some reason I can't explain.
murf7777
September 08, 2025 at 10:20 am
Dobber, I think your answer is Cooper and Walker, two very fast ILB’s who can play sideline to sideline. In addition, to DB’s aggressively coming up to stop the runs and dump off passes. I was impressed.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 08, 2025 at 01:37 pm
Sounds like you're describing TEAMWORK! I was indeed impressed by this overall team win, and look forward to hearing MLF's breakdown of that point ...
SicSemperTyrannis
September 08, 2025 at 01:31 pm
Gentlemen, I do believe there's a certain phrase to describe this:
GO PACK GO!!
T7Steve
September 08, 2025 at 06:36 am
I bet the D was disappointed they had to give up that late TD. A couple 3 and outs by the O left them on the field quite a bit in the second half but they weren't sucking air from what I could tell.
After a win like this all we can do is nitpick, but I still think MLF needs more advice when it comes to challenges. I think the NFL could help out more with instant corrections too but until they do MLF needs to be more careful. Those timeouts and challenges are nice to keep for later in games. Of course, they don't do you any good in the locker room either so what do I know?
Thegreatreynoldo
September 08, 2025 at 07:07 am
I am okay with the challenge. It was close and it was a 2nd and 12 on a 19-yard completed pass with detroit at their own 22 yard line. GB was up 10-0 almost at the end of the first quarter. I was thinking that it is never too early to drop the hammer on the opponent. Let's get to a 3rd and 12 and watch Parsons work.
It is a fine line.
T7Steve
September 08, 2025 at 07:22 am
Have you heard anything about Tom's injury? Do we just have to wait for practice or the report?
Don't need the attrition starting on the first week and a short one to boot.
dobber
September 08, 2025 at 07:58 am
The sideline reporter said that Tom was on the stationary bike trying to stay warm to get back in--I can't guess whether the decision to hold him out was because they were ahead and they wanted to preserve him for Thursday, or because he couldn't play.
Spock
September 08, 2025 at 12:11 pm
The sideline reporter also said he was riding the bike because of a sore HIP. IDK, I saw Tom start to get up on the field and it looked like his leg started to buckle and the assistants kind of half-caught him to keep him upright. Hopefully, it was more like having a "stinger" in the leg muscle (if that's even a thing).
Coldworld
September 08, 2025 at 09:34 am
My biggest question is what happened to the play calling mid second quarter? We just stopped being aggressive, something that had worked exceedingly well and just led to a 2 pass TD drive. Then we went deep into our shell: night and day, which allowed the Lions to attack more.
At the time it was 14:3 with 2 and a half quarters to go. It led to two turnover worthy passes in the late second quarter (one for a pick 6 negated by 2 penalties admittedly) and another that fortunately the ILB just dropped when thrown straight two him after half time. We only attempted 6 passes in the entire second half I think.
Absent a stellar defensive performance, that change in approach could very well have killed us. Certainly the game could have been close at half time despite all the initial success? Why does LaFleur do this? This game was won by the D. This game could have easily been lost by the O despite an excellent 1 1/2 quarters and apparently due to a change in tactics that makes no sense to me based upon the then score or what our opponent was doing.
That it could have was not due to Love and certainly not due to the D or even STs. Why LaFleur? That sort of thing will cost us games and for no obvious reason. We do not need that kind of coaching impediment.
PackEyedOptimist
September 08, 2025 at 07:47 am
I drafted TeSlaa all the time in my mock drafts, but not as early as Detroit picked him.
He's going to be a problem for us for the next four years.
That catch might be the best catch made in the NFL this year.
Bitternotsour
September 08, 2025 at 12:51 pm
the Hopkins contested TD catch in double coverage with someone holding his arm will be tough to beat.
10thArmored
September 08, 2025 at 02:21 pm
FWIW: I think TeSlaa is a Michigan native and he was quoted as saying that he was delighted to be drafted by Detroit because he's always hated GB, lol
SicSemperTyrannis
September 08, 2025 at 01:39 pm
I'll nitpick all I want, it's much more fun after a FOURTEEN POINT WIN that was convincing throughout 60 minutes 😎
Leatherhead
September 08, 2025 at 08:08 am
Kind of difficult to be unhappy with this game.
1. We ran 48 plays. 22 of them were passes. 16 completed passes, 6 incomplete. No sacks. We scored 27 points. The Lions had the ball much more, did much less with it, threw one interception, got sacked couple of times, and basically didn't get into the endzone until the game was already decided.
I continue to tell people that we're not going to throw a lot of passes this year, but some people are slow on the uptake. Detroit completed 31 passes, we completed 16, yet we had nearly the same amount of passing yardages;
2. We didn't run the ball well, but that's going to happen when you play 8 different OL. I don't think it's anything to worry about. These guys can block, Jacobs can run, and I'd expect practices to iron this out.
3. Very good pass blocking, very good defense. IF this holds up, we're going to the Super Bowl.
4. Very few mistakes. No turnovers, no sacks, 4 penalties. If you were one of those people who had to complain that "MLF doesn't get his team ready", please take note.
5. Time of possession doesn't matter. Yards/rush doesn't matter. Points matter, and we got 27. I'm actually kind of impressed with how efficient our offense was yesterday.
dobber
September 08, 2025 at 08:15 am
"Time of possession doesn't matter. Yards/rush doesn't matter. Points matter, and we got 27."
The Lions ground out a couple long drives...for FGs. And were mostly ineffective otherwise. That's a key: if your opponent is kicking FGs and you're scoring TDs, you're going to win.
If we want to play "coulda/shoulda" the 3 play scoring drive in the first half did a lot to skew TOP. Both of these teams want to run the football, which leads to fewer snaps and shorter games. A fast score like that puts the defense back on the field, but they were mixing up personnel pretty liberally, so I didn't get the feeling that this defense was getting gassed.
Thegreatreynoldo
September 08, 2025 at 10:21 am
Lions went 1 for 4 in the red zone and lost the turnover battle.
Coldworld
September 08, 2025 at 12:17 pm
That’s it in a nutshell, plus one drive of 2 passes for a TD as well.
SicSemperTyrannis
September 08, 2025 at 01:44 pm
I'll take those quick strikes anytime! Our strategy should be those keep opponents honest, freeing up our run game. Here's hoping this team becomes unstoppable 🍻
dobber
September 08, 2025 at 08:09 am
"Reed may have been on a pitch count due to his recent foot injury, but he also only played in 3 wide receiver sets. "
As I've read more scouting reports on Reed, it's the fact that he's only playing in 11 personnel that makes him more limited. Still, he makes things happen. He didn't play like he was hurting, and Arnold's struggles continuing warm my heart.
"The edge was set and there was plenty of pressure with just 4 rushing the passer. "
This was a big story yesterday: that the Packers were getting the better of Detroit's OL using 4, and not always with 1 on the field. We'lll see what happens with snaps as Parsons gets his legs back, but the DE rotated pretty liberally. Gary and LVN were both really good, with or without Parsons. I'm guessing that Campbell will look at this film, take it personally, and they'll play angry against the Bears on Sunday. This is why I'm hoping the Bears beat the Vikes tonight in a consummate meteor strike game...just let all these other NFCN teams beat each other into the ground.
tobinrote
September 08, 2025 at 09:55 am
best game since playoff win in Dallas a couple of years ago. hard to find much to complain about, the D front 7 playing superbly. who would have thought our tackles would do so well, and that LVN would finally show up? But then I guess we are going to have to live with Love's deciding that a couple of times every game he is going to try to hand the ball to the other side, saved only this time by Angelone and the refs. And Musgrave just cannot stay on his feet no matter what. I was at the game and one gets to see just how well Whelan hits the ball which just keeps rising and rising until gravity finally takes over some 60 yards down the field. Worth every penny and more.
Thegreatreynoldo
September 08, 2025 at 09:57 am
PFF has the following initial grades:
Love 77, Wicks 75.3, Doubs 74.9, Rhyan 73.8,
Edgerrin Cooper 91.5, Evam Williams 91.5, Wyatt 82.4, LVN 81.5
Hurries: Aaron Banks 1, Tom 1, Rasheed 2, Morgan 2.
Pass rush: Wyatt: 5 (4 hurries and 1 sack), LVN 4 (3 and 1 sack), Gary 4 (3 and 1 sack), Brooks 3 hurries, Parsons 2 (1 hurry, 1 sack), Cooper 1.
Hutchinson had 3 (2 hurries and 1 QB hit) and 5 other lions each had 1 hurry.
OC Glasgow allowed 1 hurry, Decker allowed 1 sack, OG Mahogony allowed 3 (2 hurries and a sack), Sewell allowed 3 hurries, OG Ratledge allowed 4 (3 hurries and 1 sack), and a TE and a RB allowed 1 hurry each.
Bullard allowed 10 of 11 targets for 72 yards and a 92.9 passer rating.
Nixon: 5 of 5 for 49 and a 107.5 PR
Valentine 2 of 3 for 45 and a TD so 140 PR
Quay 5 of 6 for 30, 87 PR
Cooper 6 of 6 for 24, 83PR
McDiffie 2 of 2 for 7 yards, 81 PR
Evan Williams 0 of 2 for zero yards
McKinney was not targeted.
Cooper had 4 stops,
Wooden 3, Nixon, LVN, Quay 2
Gary had 1
Branch had 3 stop, DL Tyleik Williams had 2, LBs Anzalone, Campbell and Barnes each with 2, XDavenport with 1
murf7777
September 08, 2025 at 10:27 am
I’m hoping Wyatt and LVN quiet the Gutey is a bad 1st round drafter mantra. Wyatt in particular is going to have a very big year. You could see as last year progressed how much better he was.
WestCoastPackerBacker
September 08, 2025 at 12:18 pm
Yeah not much for the “Gutey is a bad drafter” crowd to complain about today. All the first rounders played like first rounders. Quay was so quick to the ball, Morgan played like an NFL guard, LVN, Wyatt and Gary were all disruptive and had sacks. Nice to see!
Coldworld
September 08, 2025 at 01:50 pm
The top 5 PFF defensive ratings.
S Evan Williams: 90.5
DL Devonte Wyatt: 78.7
LB Edgerrin Cooper: 77.6
CB Carrington Valentine: 72.6
DL Lukas Van Ness: 68.7
A pretty good day for Gute picks.
One thing to chew on offensively, if Tom can’t go: Kinnard didn’t fare well in their assessment. According to PFF he didn't give up a pressure but was poor pass-blocking over four snaps in pass pro and 15 snaps overall at right tackles although a plus in the run game which lifted him to a 57 grade overall. Not that this surprises particularly, but we might need a rethink if Tom can’t go on Thursday (he’s better at G if Morgan can move to RT).
Thegreatreynoldo
September 08, 2025 at 10:31 am
The PFF stuff is in this sort of link since it gets banned for looking like spam: pff.com/news/nfl-week-1-recap-green-bay-packers-27-detroit-lions-13-2025
As is usual, PFF like Bullard better than I did and it disliked Valentine, who I liked. It is what it is.
Leatherhead
September 08, 2025 at 01:20 pm
We kept them out of the end zone until garbage time.
Detroit never snapped the ball with a chance to take the lead. That’s domination, no matter what PFF says.
Bitternotsour
September 08, 2025 at 10:21 pm
I know i say it often, but PFF is for people who don't understand what they watched.
RobinsonDavis
September 08, 2025 at 11:19 pm
Thx, TGR!