Packers' Snap Counts Versus The Jets (August 21, 2021)

The Packers took a long look at several players not just on offense and defense but also on special teams in their preseason game with the New York Jets yesterday.

 

The Packers played the New York Jets in Lambeau Field. 

Player Snaps % STs
Braden 62 100 2 - 8%
Nijman 46 74 2 - 8%
Runyan 35 56 2 - 8%
Patrick 35 56 1 - 4%
Newman 35 56  - - -
Hanson 27 44 2 - 8%
Van Lanen 27 44  - - -
Capra 16 26 2 - 8%
Cronk 16 26 1 - 4%
Myers 11 18  - - -
       
Benkert 59 95  - - -
Dolega 3 5  - - -
       
Begelton 49 79 2 - 8%
M. Taylor 44 71 ZERO
Am. Rodgers 43 69 2 - 8%
Hazelton 20 32 1 -4%
       
Kaufusi 34 55 9-38%
Sternberger 34 55 7-29%
Crawford 24 39 5-21%
       
P. Taylor 24 39 9-38%
D. Williams 16 26 12-50%
Hill 15 24 2-8%
Dillon 7 11  - - -

The Packers averaged 4.6 yards per carry in the first half and 3.8 yards per carry in the second half.  For the game, the Packers and the Jets both averaged 4.2 yards per carry.  The Jets had 1 sack, 2 quarterback hits, and 5 tackles for loss.  The Packers took a long look at Braden and had Nijman play a lot of snaps in another preseason game.  Royce Newman was another lineman who got a long look.

Benkert completed 12 passes on 16 attempts for 103 yards (6.6 yards/attempt) with a touchdown, good for a passer rating of 112.2.  Benkert had several noteworthy throws, including a completion to Sternberger for a touchdown.  That was a nice 12 yard out caught perhaps 7 yards deep in the end zone.  Benkert also completed a 23-yard pass to Taylor while under pressure that was initially ruled incomplete but was challenged and reversed.  Benkert threw a nice back shoulder pass to Taylor for 21 yards on another scoring drive, and showed that he could throw with accuracy on the move.  Benkert completed 6 of 9 passes for 48 yards in the second half and (according to Matt LaFleur) airmailed a pass that was intercepted.  He finished with an 83.9 passer rating.  It is interesting that Malik Taylor did not play on special teams.  He played 181 snaps on STs last season, so perhaps the Packers wanted to see what other players could do.  Reggie Begelton caught 2 passes on 4 targets for 15 yards.  He did return 2 punts for 35 yards, including a nifty 28-yard return during which he broke three tackles.  The Packers had only three tight ends available, so all of them played significant snaps. 

Dillon had 4 carries during his 7-snap night, good for 28 yards and a 7.0 average.  He looked like a tank.  Dillon also caught 2 passes on 2 targets, both for 6 yard gains.  Dillon was heavily featured in the first scoring drive.  Kylin Hill rushed 7 times for 29 yards (4.1 average), including a 12-yard touchdown.  His vision looked much better.  Patrick Taylor rushed 8 times for 48 yards, an 8.0 average, and he caught 1 of 3 targets for 7 yards.  However, he fumbled the ball once.  Dexter Williams rushed 8 times for 22 yards (2.8 average) and returned 2 kickoffs for 53 yards, including a long of 32.  Williams (12) and Patrick Taylor (9) both received a good look on special teams. 

 

Player Snaps % STs
Gaines 45 83 15-62%
Yiadom 42 78 14-58%
Ento 39 72 17-71%
Black 39 72 15-62%
Jean-Charles 23 43 4-17%
Hollman 15 28 8-33%
Uphoff 15 28 8-33%
Stokes 12 22 9-38%
Redmond 9 17 1-4%
       
Galeai 32 59 8-33%
Garvin 28 52 4-17%
Martin 27 50 11-46%
Rivers 22 41 11-46%
McDuffie 19 35 15-62%
Wilborn 15 28 2-8%
Summers 14 26 7-29%
Burks 12 22 5-21%
Barnes 12 22 4-17%
Harris 9 17 7-29%
       
Previlon 38 70 4-17%
Slaton 37 59 4-17%
Heflin 34 63 2-8%
D. Scott 26 48 3-12%
Kemp 13 24 7-29%
Keke 12 22 1-4%
Avery 5 9  - - -

Henry Black and Innis Gaines both finished with 6 tackles (4 solo).   and Innis Gaines added 5 (3 solo).  Yiadom and Ento both had 4 total tackles (3 and 2 solo, respectively).  Redmond had 2 tackles (1 solo) but limped off the field at one point.  Stokes had an assist and had the only pass defensed.  There were no interceptions.  Vernon Scott did not play.

McDuffie had 4 solo tackles.  Kamal Martin had 3 tackles and a quarterback hit, though he was unblocked on the play.  Burks, Summers and Barnes each had 2 tackles, with Barnes making a nice stop in a short yardage situation.  Gileai and Wilborn each had a tackle for loss. 

Slaton and Heflin each had 4 tackles.  Slaton added a sack and a tackle for loss.  Heflin had 2 quarterback hits with at least one lined up as a defensive end.  Delontae Scott had 3 tackles and Previlon added 2, each with one solo tackle. 

Zach Wilson finished with a 154.7 passer rating after completing 9 passes on 11 attempts for 128 yards (11.64 yards/attempt), 2 touchdowns and no interceptions.  He was not sacked.  The Packers allowed 41 yards on 10 attempts in the first half (4.1 yard average).  In the second half, the Packers allowed 62 yards on 19 attempts, a 3.26 yard average.

SPECIAL TEAMS:

The Packers allowed a 73 yard kickoff return.  J.K. Scott had a 21 yard punt.  Begelton did have a nice 28 yard punt return and Dexter Williams averaged 26.5 yards on his two kickoff returns with a long of 32.  Ento, Uphoff and Dexter Williams each had one tackle on special teams.  Uphoff also split a double team and forced a fair catch on one punt.

 

 

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Comments (57)

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 22, 2021 at 07:11 am

After considerable hemming and hawing, I decided to use a photo of Jack Heflin. He had two QB hits and the defensive line generally was pretty stout. KC, Lowry, Keke and Slaton are locks and Lancaster is a good bet. Previlon and Scott have improved. But I wonder if Heflin can make a move on the PS if not the 53. One hit came with him as a DE. I know dobber and others want a DE in the worst way, and Previlon and Scott fit that bill, but perhaps Heflin and Slaton can play up and down the line a little more than I thought.

Benkert was an obvious candidate, and he did impress. Still, AR is going to start and Love is the backup. Benkert needs another good showing to really make me consider 3 QBs. He already had the PS locked up short of abject failure.

Some of the DBs had nice Games. Innis Gaines missed a tackle but was pretty solid otherwise. Black made tackles but his concern has always been coverage. Ento ducked his shoulder twice while missing tackles but still managed to be active and have a positive game, just not as positive as last week. The OLBs seem to take the night off. Wilborn had a TFL in just 15 snaps, but more interesting he didn't play many ST snaps. Slaton had a nice game but he is making the 53. Dillon looked very good but he is making the team. Hill, Taylor and Dexter did some good things. Not sure either of the latter two did enough to force the Packers to keep 4 RBs.

2 QBs; 6 WRs, 4 TEs, 3 RBs, 9 OL = 24. I like the 24/26/3 split. Someone has to be good to make me go to 25 players on offense.

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LeotisHarris's picture

August 22, 2021 at 08:26 am

Thanks, TGR.

Could you give us a breakdown of your hems and haws on the photo choice? A guestimate would be okay.

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dobber's picture

August 22, 2021 at 09:07 am

Thanks for the snapcounts, TGR. Always appreciated.

"I know dobber and others want a DE in the worst way,"

<<crosses arms defiantly>>

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Leatherhead's picture

August 22, 2021 at 12:00 pm

Other than the 6 WRs (I think 5), this is pretty good.

I’m liking Benkert and Taylor as practice squad guys.

I also keep seeing 75 in the middle of stuff. Scott? What’s the story on him?

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wildbill's picture

August 22, 2021 at 01:55 pm

I agree that we should keep only 5 wrs as we use a lot of TEs and and I hope we run more this year, especially inside the opponents ten yard line, Bucs game as a prime example.

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Guam's picture

August 22, 2021 at 07:37 am

The O-line looked much better this game. Nijman and Braden both had solid games at tackle and the guard/center play was much improved as well. I think Newman, Runyan and Patrick all did well. It was interesting that Kelly did not play. After his poor outing against the Texans, he is going to have to have a good game against Buffalo to make the roster. I think Nijman helped himself with a solid outing against the Jets and if he does the same against Buffalo, he could bump Kelly for the backup tackle spot on the 53.

I thought this game looked more like the O-line I expected to see this season.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 22, 2021 at 11:53 am

I thought the line did well. The only sack was when Benkert broke right into it.

I watched the 3rd quarter again after the game, going frame by frame. Myers and the right side, 62 and 64, were just pushing people around. Very encouraging.

We’re going to be able to run this year.

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RedRight49's picture

August 22, 2021 at 07:43 am

Appreciate both the " snap numbers " and the interpretive observations, TRG.

Thought Heflin played hard every down, he seems to be around the ball on most plays and believe he will be on some team's 53 during the season, preferably the Packers.

Malik Taylor too, looked very aware on his routes, makes plays and can contribute both as a WR and on the needy Special Teams unit.

Dexter Williams, did he make enough of a case for himself as a RB and a potential return man?

He had a couple nice returns, great to see the ST yards.

How did Newman grade out at RG - is there an apparent top candidate for the position right now?

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Coldworld's picture

August 22, 2021 at 08:33 am

The more I see, the more I like Slaton and Heflin better at DE than another undersized player. Both are more than just statues and able to impact both run and pass and offer the chance to spell Clark as well as vary his role without telegraphing. Allowing Clark to attack reduce his snap counts a little and more would be major plus alone.

My concern is Rodgers. He looks slow and not particularly agile in all three facets (receiving, returning, running). Perhaps it’s a lack of confidence or certainty, but he doesn’t seem like the player he was in college film. It could be him not translating to a higher level of athleticism.

Special teams was abysmal as far as discipline and organization is concerned. If the highlight plays, Bagelton, Williams and Uphoff. None of whom will be on the roster. Ento and Martin maybe. We do get Daffney back (perhaps our standout last year) as well as probably Burks or Summers. So some stars in and some out: not an excuse given the personnel used. Drayton is looking to be a choice that should never have been made.

Taylor was the stand out offensive player. Hill impressed me more on the ground. I think that the 3rd RB competition is over. Bagelton may have secured a PS berth based on his returning as much as receiving. Sternberger is just maddeningly inconsistent. I’m not sure he will make the week three roster. EQ is going to be a FA after failing to get on the field again.

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murf7777's picture

August 22, 2021 at 09:00 am

Regarding Rodgers, I don’t think it is uncommon for a WR to take time to learn the speed and athleticism in the NFL. I think that is why Rodgers wanted Cobb on the team as he knows Rodgers could take a couple of years to get up to speed and gain confidence in his abilities.

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dobber's picture

August 22, 2021 at 09:05 am

They're certainly not holding anything back with AmRod, either. He's running a full slate of routes and playing a lot of snaps. He's getting force-fed the NFL through a firehose.

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Coldworld's picture

August 22, 2021 at 11:37 am

I agree, I think there have been nerves and he is not a hugely polished receiver—used to being schemed open. He just seems to be playing slow. At this point though, he is a weak link. Cobb buys him time but complicates the roster equation. At this point I can see Rodgers being inactive and Cobb fielding punts.

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wildbill's picture

August 22, 2021 at 02:00 pm

I was originally against the Cobb signing, even though I really like Cobb, but it looks like a very good trade to Mentor Rodgers and allow him to develop

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dobber's picture

August 22, 2021 at 09:26 am

Heflin continues to look good. Active, intuitive, plays hard...more athletic than he gets credit for. His hit on White in the 3rd quarter showed him working a nice stunt and making a smart hit. He and Slaton are very similar players, IMO.

At this stage, I think with the players they're about to lose in the WR room, they need to find a way to keep Malik Taylor around. Very steady and making good plays on the field. ST contributor. He's an athletic D-II guy (RAS was about 8.5) that they've put some work into, and he's showing growth.

I think Dexter Williams is their best KO returner, but there's no room left for him at the inn.

I'll give Nijman credit for playing a much more consistent game this week, but that's against a team sitting it's best DL and without a vetted outside pass rusher. He'll get lots of time v. Buffalo next week.

It looks to me like they're trying to give Braden every chance to show he belongs. I wasn't overwhelmed by his play at G or T yesterday.

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Coldworld's picture

August 22, 2021 at 12:48 pm

Nijman again emerged as our highest rated tackle, this time against starters. I’m at the point where I’m confident that he’s not going anywhere. That doesn’t mean I’m penciling him in instead of Jenkins, but he might be the next man up in an in game crisis.

Newman is starting. He looks our best available G. Myers was great. That’s 2 really good pickups that I confess I wasn’t excited about. I’m a little puzzled at the negatives thrown at Patrick based upon what I saw. Braden helped himself. Think the back up C job (while Bakh is out) is still up for grabs.

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Thegravedigger's picture

August 22, 2021 at 01:28 pm

i think patrick is getting a lot of negative attention simply based on the fact that he played 3 quarters, and none of our other starters or even solid backups suited up. it was patrick, erik stokes, and street guys.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 22, 2021 at 02:00 pm

Agree with this. Especially the stuff about Patrick. This is a real good bunch of linemen if we can keep them healthy.

Braden was 64, and 64 and 62, (Patrick) with Myers were pushing people around.

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murf7777's picture

August 22, 2021 at 01:10 pm

Dobber, Malik Taylor has been impressive and plays ST. At this point of their careers I like Funchess better and it was a shame he has a minor injury. I really wanted to see him play again. He could bring good trade value if they think Taylor brings more long term potential and need his ST contributions. I really like Williams also and agree about KO returner. Do they keep 4 backs? I think Hill is a lock. Can you stash him on the PS? Probably, as other teams have good options at RB I suspect.

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Thegravedigger's picture

August 22, 2021 at 01:31 pm

i like the idea of trade value with funchess. but honestly, fuck that. 2021 is the year. lets get it now. fuck trading funchess for a 6th round pick next year, because that damn 2 point conversion with eq last year is still imprinted in my brain. its rodgers last year, i wanna roll deep and worry about the rest later. come on player gm aaron rodgers, you better get in gutes ear before he trades funchess for a late round pick.

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dobber's picture

August 22, 2021 at 09:15 am

TGR talked about this briefly on the other thread, but even with 5 cuts this week (which could include a trade or a move to IR), the Packers still need to field a team v. Buffalo next week without exposing players they want to protect...or without exposing players they don't want to show too much film on. That makes the cuts a little more strategic.

Buffalo played a lot of scrubs against the Bears this week and rolled right over a mix of 1s and 2s that the Bears put on the field. IT was a feel-good kind of thing...and Justin Fields looked a lot more human this week. Can he run? Yes. But he's got a long way to go to show he can read NFL defenses...even when he's playing against 2s and 3s.

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Coldworld's picture

August 22, 2021 at 11:44 am

If Love plays we will likely play more of the 20 something of 30/32 that were inactive. There is an extra week between the last preseason game and the first regular season game.

I’d need to look at those actives who got little playing time and the injured bubble players to narrow down the next 5. One will be Molson (k) I would think. There could be a couple they see as pure developmental prospects for the PS in that group too, which complicates matters.

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dobber's picture

August 22, 2021 at 11:51 am

I suspect that unless we're talking about real projects, anyone that they really want to get to the PS they won't expose until the final cutdown, but you're right in that I think Molson makes sense. If Love plays next week (and he should) Dolegala is a cut, too.

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89Chewy's picture

August 22, 2021 at 09:27 am

Uphoff and Heflin have been two players i've been hoping get on the 53 and they made a good case last night. I'm just glad i don't have to chose the final cuts for offensive linemen, because even the starter for right guard is a tough decision. I do have a feeling that Lucas Patrick may be a trade option before next week.

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Coldworld's picture

August 22, 2021 at 11:46 am

I think Uphoff is an example of a player they will keep for the PS to develop physically and perhaps call up for spot ST cover. I think that has been the plan with him from the outset.

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dobber's picture

August 22, 2021 at 11:52 am

Agreed on Uphoff. He's buried too far down the S ladder to make the 53 except as an "ST only" guy.

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Coldworld's picture

August 22, 2021 at 12:18 pm

Deliberately I think. He needs a year in the gym as well as practice time. I think Galeai is another headed that way. Capra (G/C) and Avery (DL). could be two others. Both rated very highly by PFF on limited play.

PFF was also high on Heflin, Keke, SJ-C and McDuffie on D and Newman, Nijman, Myers and Hill on O.

Interestingly to see some I noticed watching and some deeper depth I didn’t notice.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/packers-pff-grades-best-worst-pla...

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 22, 2021 at 07:39 pm

Interesting article. Gaines is the one I differ with PFF about. I noticed the missed tackle but can't remember the TD pass as being zGaunes' fault. Some other guys I didn't notice particularly or at all.

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murf7777's picture

August 22, 2021 at 01:13 pm

Heflin is a tough call. He has played above expectations. Would that mean Heflin vs Lancaster? If so, I'm happy I'm not making that one.

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jont's picture

August 22, 2021 at 09:39 am

Two preseason games without a notable injury is a bit of good fortune which is allowing the coaches to give everyone a chance to show what they can do, and some players are stepping up.
All these combinations of players mean some messy play and very few sustained drives, but individuals are getting on film in real games.
So far this is a pretty good preseason for the pack.

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dobber's picture

August 22, 2021 at 11:52 am

"Two preseason games without a notable injury is a bit of good fortune"

Knock on wood!
Knock on wood now!!!

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Bure9620's picture

August 22, 2021 at 10:13 am

My Locks

QB
Rodgers
Love

RBs
Jones
Dillon
Hill

WR
Adams
Cobb
Rodgers
MVS
Lazard

TE
Tonyan
Lewis
Deguara

O-line
Jenkins
Myers
Newman
Braden (due to versatility)
Runyan
Turner
Patrick
Nijman
(Bahktiari will start on PUP)

D-line
Clark
Lowry
Keke
Slaton

OLB
Z Smith
P Smith
Gary

Off ball
Campbell
Barnes

Corner
Jaire
King
Stokes
Sullivan
Jean-Charles
Ento

Safety
Savage
Amos
Black
Scott

Teams
Crosby
Bradley

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Leatherhead's picture

August 22, 2021 at 10:31 am

I like it. I think we’ll have one more DL on the roster, but other than that, I’d agree with this.

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dobber's picture

August 22, 2021 at 11:59 am

Barnes has played a not-insignificant number of snaps this preseason, which makes you wonder how he's viewed by the coaches.

Maybe it's just a matter of getting him more game play after no preseason last year...maybe they feel his job is less secure than most have assumed...maybe they just wanted to get a higher end guy out there to anchor and make play calls.

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Coldworld's picture

August 22, 2021 at 12:03 pm

I think it’s getting him time in the Barry system and with his vision starter in his case.

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Thegravedigger's picture

August 22, 2021 at 05:02 pm

barnes is 100 percent making this team.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 22, 2021 at 07:20 pm

I think Barnes and Campbell are unquestionably the starters at ILB. Who is going to wear the headset? I think they would like it to be Barnes. Maybe that's why Barnes plays: he is just entering year teo.

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Coldworld's picture

August 22, 2021 at 11:58 am

I counted 42 there. I think that’s a pretty reasonable core. Heflin and Funchess are looking increasingly likely. Gaines, Daffney, Taylor and some combination of linebackers are going to be core ST led candidates. The 4th and maybe 5th OLB remains a vacancy. We will have at least 4 ILBs. I thought Martin looked good on STs last night. I’d like to see a deep cover S option. We aren’t short of tacklers there. Gute could also make some waiver claims. Perhaps at P or LS or OLB.

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Thegravedigger's picture

August 22, 2021 at 05:01 pm

taylor and funchess equals 7 wrs. if they keep daffney and sternberger, thats 5 tes. if they keep gaines black and scott thats 5 safetys. they usually keep 4 tes, 4 safetys, 5 to 6 wrs. i like this depth, but a few guys are gonna be gone that probably get snatched right up somewhere else. just on the dl alone where they normally keep 5 we have clark, lowry, lancaster, slaton, keke, hefflin. ilbs alone if ty summers makes it you have 6 with summers and burks and mcduffie. these numbers are not going to add up. not even close. tipa galai made one nice play in coverage that is something this team is desperately lacking at the olb position. hes another one to watch out there. i dont think they keep even 5 ilbs, which would leave burks the odd man out unless he kills it against buffalo like he did in the first game.

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Coldworld's picture

August 22, 2021 at 05:36 pm

Sternberger is suspended for the first two games, but I actually think he’s gone without injuries. Other than the TD catch he was pretty much unable to get open, missed blocks in the run game and had a bad drop. He’s just not going to see the field. Daffney/Deguara can take some of the blocking and Funchess the rest of the TE role without missing a beat. Better blockers all three.

Daffney is one of our better ST players. M Taylor is a good one too. 2TEs, 2H Backs and 7 WRs justifying 1HBack and 1WR on ST contributions and 1 WR being a hybrid TE. Daffney can also play FB if that role is needed.

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Lphill's picture

August 22, 2021 at 10:29 am

JK Scott is God awful !

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Leatherhead's picture

August 22, 2021 at 11:42 am

Lphill’s definition of awful:

4 punts, 163 yardS, 40.75 yards/punt.
One short punt of 27 yards.
One long punt of 53 yards
One inside the 10.

Jets returned one punt for two yards.

This doesn’t scream “Godawful”. It’s actually pretty good.

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Coldworld's picture

August 22, 2021 at 12:55 pm

2 great long hang time and distance punts and one awful shank. As a former regular punter in Rugby, I get that shanks happen, but I did not notice pressure and they shouldn’t be happening in the pros. He just can not directional kick. Why, I can’t fathom. But that leg cannot be taught.

Nevertheless, I’d be taking him aside and having a discussion about professionalism. He doesn’t improve and I think there is a chance that he’s just coasting. Overall the one shank outweighs both average and his good punts. It led to a score. Perhaps Gute will decide he’s reached the end of the line, but If not, they need to convince him to focus I think.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 22, 2021 at 04:51 pm

So a 27 yard punt with 0 return is substantially worse than a 40 yard punt and an 8 yard return?

I don’t agree the shank outweighs everything else.

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Thegravedigger's picture

August 22, 2021 at 01:33 pm

youve said this in like 5 chatrooms now bro.

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NJ-RICK's picture

August 22, 2021 at 11:23 am

Slaton & Heflin already better the Lowry... Braden and Royce should make 53. Lucas Patrick should be traded or released. JK Scott job's is in Jeopardy. J Sternberger will be released after week #2. Many more cuts coming up soon.

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dobber's picture

August 22, 2021 at 11:57 am

"Slaton & Heflin already better the Lowry"

...but Lowry's restructure means he's all but guaranteed to make the final cut, and he's reportedly had a very nice camp. I think Tyler Lancaster is the odd man out in that case.

I agree with most of what you've said, but it feels like this coaching staff is content to roll with Scott.

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Coldworld's picture

August 22, 2021 at 12:06 pm

I think they keep Lancaster as a pure clogger and use Heflin as well as Slaton more in mixed roles. We need depth. I think Lowry loses out to Keke and Slaton in terms of snaps and is gone next year.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 22, 2021 at 04:59 pm

Guys like Lancaster are useful on short yardage and goal line.

The notion that a guy who has looked OK in two scrimmages (Slaton and Hefner) against second and third string guys.is somehow clearly better than a guy who has played for years as a starter (Lowry) is laughable. A clear case of premature evaluation.

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Thegravedigger's picture

August 23, 2021 at 06:28 pm

maybe your right. but to come on here and defend lowry and lancaster is also laughable. just because they wear the green and gold doesnt mean they are decent football players. and yeah hefflin has only played 2 scrimmage games. but hes made more plays than lancaster did all of last year. lowry has only been a starter for years because gute paid him 8 million dollars per year. look man im not one of the negative guys on here. i think this team is loaded with talent up and down the field. basically everywhere besides lowry and lancaster there is promise or proven solid nfl talent, thats what makes lowry and lancaster that much worse. especially lowry. he gets knocked off the ball 3 yards by single team blocks from the guard. sure we are over excited about hefflin. but come on we know what lowry and lancaster are, we dont know what hefflin is. and i dont think he can be any worse. just hold your ground is all you have to do in the 3 4. lowry cant. lancaster hasnt since his rookie season.

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Thegravedigger's picture

August 22, 2021 at 05:06 pm

lancaster hasnt clogged anything since his rookie season tho, so what is his use? slaton and hefflin cant be worse, this run d has been terrible with lancaster and lowry right in the center of it week in and week out. what is gute not seeing? the lowry disaster has been gutes worst signing, and he keeps trying to make it work. 8 mil a year for a dt that provides little pass rush doesnt take on double teams and doesnt stop the run. im so sick of yelling at my tv when this guy continually gets knocked off the ball and just stays in the damn game. i hope they have a shorter leash this year with the depth and joe barry not being loyal to anybody because its his first year with everybody.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 22, 2021 at 07:26 pm

We fans have been thinking that lots of guys are better than Lowry (including me!), yet Lowry keeps rolling along, getting snaps and void years.

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Thegravedigger's picture

August 23, 2021 at 06:31 pm

he got void years because gute restructured his mess without admitting he made one. hey maybe im wrong and lowrys fuckin gone finally. guy takes up snaps from other guys. shit wheres big billy winn? id take him over lowry. i would of taken him over lowry all of last year until his injury. he came in and was tough and held his ground. thats what the 3 4 is. take on a double team and hold your ground or beat a single team. dont get pushed into the linebacker by the right guard alone. thats what you dont do. unless your name is dean lowry.

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splitpea1's picture

August 22, 2021 at 12:17 pm

What the special teams roster as far as kick coverage goes is going to look like at the beginning of the regular season is anybody's guess. Right now they're just searching for anybody or any combination that can get it done. On that long return, the returner didn't do anything fancy; he just accelerated forward as the Packers were blocked away in precise fashion. It would have gone to the house if it wasn't for the tackle by Ento.

So on one hand you have to be patient, but on the other it would be nice to get a glimpse or a hint of what the final unit will look like in the next preseason game.

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wildbill's picture

August 22, 2021 at 02:10 pm

I was happy how well some of the young offensive linemen have performed but realize it was against mainly “vanilla” defenses. During the first regular season games is when we will really see their capabilities. Luckily Rodgers is a master at manipulating the pocket and I feel this unit could grow into something very good.

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Thegravedigger's picture

August 22, 2021 at 05:08 pm

this is just a wild guess here, and i dont have any data to back it up, but maybe in preseason defenses are taking more risks to see there guys on stunts and other things. this could be a reason for the o line looking bad in one game and good in the next. the unpredictability of the preseason can maybe cause a defensive coach to run blitz a tad more? not sure if that makes sense but...

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TomFisher's picture

August 23, 2021 at 06:27 am

Why isn't Chauncey Rivers getting more snaps? He is so much more disruptive than either Galeai or Garvin.

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wildbill's picture

August 23, 2021 at 04:02 pm

Maybe they already like what they see and want to look at the other guys

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