Great post I'm still laughing. I predict this will set a total number of comments record. Only to be broken one day by Capers resignation//Retirement/ Firing announcement

I dunno, couches in place of the o & d lines just might work.

With how they've been playing, I could swear that the linemen are already "couched".

Nice sarcasm. I attribute the current problems more to the heavy turn-over in the GMs office in recent years than anything else. I continue to be amazed every year at how this coaching staff gets the most out of the talent they are given. I firmly believe you will see this team make a deep run by no later than the 2016 season, and it is likely to happen next year.

No

Because they can put up a hell of a lot of points which is good if the defense is poor. If the Packer defense can't get off the field it doesn't matter in the end if they impede the opponent enough to slow their ability to score. It only works because of Rodgers. Of course if the Packer secondary is getting burned for big ones it's all even.

I think it's because this defense is built to pass rush and defend the pass. It obviously isn't built to stop the run, so it behooves them to start fast and turn it into a passing game.

Amen
A pain only the old
Have to know

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Kuhn and Jones- sure. Quarless? That just makes you sound like an idiot. He's average, but we're not exactly deep at TE.

I wouldn't say closed. But I for one as I'm sure those of us who were blessed in the 60s and endured some really rough seasons and mediocre QB, bare talent teams in the 70s and 80s are not too happy. To continue to squander what we have is mind boggling but there is time and I gotta think the window is open and TT/MM are starting to realize it. They better. Watching Brady and Manning the other night made me appreciate it that much more. Rodgers is so far ahead of everyone else, and is to me the most complete QB I have ever seen. So when I see us not doing everything possible to capitalize on that, I can't help but be critical like you. Now more than ever, we need and lack a strong run blocking 60s type great O-line and some nasty Lbs, It would be such a shame if we don't because we can never expect this to last or to think the next Farve and Rodgers is right around the corner.

Sherrods is a start

ONLY a decade? Are you sure you don't mean a century?
Has your poopy flavored lollipop lost its taste?
What's with all the optimism?

I'm not defending Thompson here but I just read a interesting piece on Green Bay Scout, (Subscription Required) where they were discussing the 2011 draft as a whole. The 2011 draft as a whole was one of the worst classes since the 80's. This was actually something I was unaware of. TT and the Packers aren't the only team that has a player or 2 remaining from the class, it's actually the norm pretty much for every team. Only 3 teams in the entire NFL drafted more than 2 starters from that class, Denver, SF, and Seattle. Just something I thought I'd share before we bust TT Balls to much, myself included, There's still the 2012 draft...ERRRRRRRRR

Atta boy

I don't understand what you were expecting.

MM is number 19 in all-time winning percentage at 64.4% and number 14 if you only count the modern era.

Do you see any teams repeating as SB champs? Do you? No, it doesn't happen in this day and age of the NFL. Goes to show you just don't understand the current NFL. Just making the playoffs is a plus after winning the big one. Every year a surprise team jumps out , this year its AZ. The Packers have been in the mix for years.

He's gone after this year

"Pretty sure he's (Capers' is) signed through eternity." You might sometimes be tedious, Cow, but that is just hilarious.

Exactly.....and guess what? You fire mike.....and none of these guys are available. So who do you go after? Some unknown coordinator from a winning team who has never head coached. You end up going through four years of growing pains just to get where you were. Assuming you can get back.

Offensive genius: Josh McDaniels. Yeah.... How'd that work our for ya broncos?

Agreed, except for Harbaugh. He created such a divisive atmosphere in SanFran that he'll be gone after this season also. From all I hear he is one of the most miserable jerks on this planet.
On a personal level, I'd also not like Belichick and Payton as human beings, and since none of the others is available, I'm fine with McCarthy getting the extension. He is a decent coach, and those don't come along too often. the only way I'd be glad for the Packers to get rid of him is if Cowher decided to come back to coaching and come to the Packers.

I don't think my list is that long.

Belichick - yes
Payton - this seems like a wash with MM. They're what, 2-2 against each other with one SB each?
Arians - no
Tomlin - hard to say. I can't tell if he got them to 3 super bowls or a string of great Dick LeBeau defenses did.
Harbaugh - no. good coach, but when your players hate you so much that your team tries to trade you to the browns, no thanks.
Carroll - undecided. I can't stand him, so that colors my judgment.

Lots of good points Bohj. It's just frustrating that if the D and D model doesn't work out, we have no other talent coming in because TT absolutely refuses
to go after trades. I'm not saying that's always the answer, but man if he fills a couple holes in exchange for low draft picks and hits, that might help win a couple more games. Who knows.

Are you pointing to the Patriots roster to support the proposition that draft and develop works?

You mean the Pats that signed CBs Revis and Browner this offseason specifically to compete with Manning?

The Pats who made a trade last week with Tenn. for OLBer Ayers -- he of the sweet sack of Manning on Sunday?

The Pats who have Brady throw to free agent WRs Amendola & Lafell?

The Pats who traded Logan Mankins to TB for TE Wright just before the season began?

Are we talking about the NE Patriots who for more than a decade have been acquiring veterans (Welker, Dillon, Talib, Moss, etc.) in pursuit of a Super Bowl ?

If that is draft & develop, please someone inform the GM of the Packers who has not made a trade in 8 years and who has sat on the sidelines when it comes to signing veteran free agents until this offseason -- how's Peppers done?

I see your points. But the patriots get these players on cheap deals from desperate teams.
The moss deal was clever. Trumped only by the second moss deal. Which was when favre wanted moss and so the patriots traded him back to them for a couple of draft picks.

Revis's contract was absorbed mostly by those idiot bucaneers.

Welker was a no name until Brady made him.

The patriots work no differently than TT does. They look for a cheap deal and create most of their roster with a ton of draft picks and UDFAs and developing them. Their occasional splash in free agency never breaks the bank.

I do feel this year is considerably different. They made much bigger splashes because brady 's career is at its end. Their making their final push. Denver is too. All chips are in.

Packers are not there yet. We are in the same position the patriots were in ten years ago. Drafting at the bottom yearly and having to pay the man.

Just because a GM signs a FA doesn't mean their philosophy has changed. I will give you that the patriots are chasing Denver and a Superbowl this year. But their history has been more similar to ours.

TT doesn't make large splashes in FA. But he is not void either:
Charles woodson
Ryan pickett
Brandon chillar
Marquise manual
Frank walker
Anthony hargrove
Jeff Saturday
Ced Benson
Julius peppers

Come on.....some of these are role players but you can't say people weren't excited about Benson Saturday and peppers.

Peppers is doing really well and playing really well for the Packers. Don't know why you think he doesn't...

Yes, and he also sends his minions to tape the practices of other teams... The guy is a thug who needs to be removed as NFL HC. But since the Pats owner is chummy with the NFL Commissioner, it will never happen.
Have you ever asked yourself why practically nobody of his coaching staff is successful anywhere else? Since they don't have the same possibilities to cheat, that's why. Plus, not everybody has a pretty boy QB who gets flags for even lightly touching him. I cannot stand anybody associated with that organization of crooks. Least of all their hoodlum HC.

thank you. you hit the nail on the head.

Why is this even a debate? Every team these days are draft and develop if they want to stay competitive year after year. It's not like there's a team that's all FAs. A lot of teams use FA's to fill holes. The teams that stay competitive get good deals at FA and don't spend draft picks to get them. ie: patriots. Look at this article below. Even COWs beloved niners and seattle are there. This is by and large the best way to build a roster............. with draft picks. The thing that sticks out to me is...... the Packers are in the top of good draft grades. Of course there are busts. Everyone has them.

http://q.usatoday.com/2014/05/07/nfl-draft-best-teams-seattle-seahawks-s...

I like Kuhn, but if MM isn't using him, what's the point?

Yeah, your valid reasons are no match for cow's all caps.

I'm probably the only guy here who likes Newhouse. He's a decent backup. Sherrod was something less than that. Way less.

>Don't give me the "he was a rookie" crap.

He was a rookie. You don't draft instant O line studs at 32.