Packers Players Provide Thought Provoking Responses to Crisis in Minneapolis

Several Packers players weighed in on social media about the crises in Minneapolis, showing their human side and their concerns.

Football players often seem larger than life. When they are on the field and on our television screens doing things we can only dream of doing and often making it look easy, it’s sometimes easy to forget that the athletes we cheer for are human beings who have parents, spouses and often children.

While they may make more money than most of us, NFL players live in the real world and face many of the same issues that we all have to deal with on a daily basis.

The recent crisis in Minneapolis is no exception. Several members of the Green Bay Packers have made thoughtful comments about the situation in Minneapolis which arose after George Floyd, an unarmed African-American man, was killed by four policemen who kept a knee on his throat for several minutes. The incident was caught on camera by bystanders who witnessed it.

Wide receiver Marquez Valdes-Scantling took to twitter on Thursday and shared some of his own life experiences:

As a African America man, people don’t understand how hard it is to live your life. Having officers draw guns and surround your car, having the police called on you for using a field to workout on, being pulled over and asked if the car I own was mine.

In a follow up Tweet, Scantling added:

Being racially profiled, having to watch how I interact with people out of fear of my life, because the reality, we are getting executed on camera everyday and nothing is being done about it. My heart goes out to those families affected. It hurts because this can be anyone.

Valdes-Scantling also retweeted former NFL quarterback and current ESPN analyst Dan Orlovsky who wrote:

A main reason why sports mattered to me. I’m a white guy who grew up in a mainly white area. I have spent most of my life around black men because of playing college football and in the NFL. What happened over that time was the poison/lies/stereotypes that I was led to believe about the black community as kid were wiped away. My whole adult life has been spent around good hearted, integrity filled, hard working, kind, funny, intelligent, conscious, motivated, amazing, successful black people. Without sports-I don’t think I have those lies wiped away. I wish everyone could experience this. I think everyone NEEDS to experience this in some way-as a parent—my kids 100% will.

Wide receiver Davante Adams also showed concern about the incident and it seemed he could easily imagine this happening to his own child. He tweeted: “My stomach hurting still today. Makes me scared to raise a young black man in today’s world man. Smh.”

On Wednesday, safety Adrian Amos held a conference call with reporters and he raised the issue as well.

Amos was thoughtful and was looking for ways to get people to start a dialogue and take positive action.

“Situations like this are just tough, just feeling as though you can be in situations like that and seeing a lot of situations like that repeat itself,” Amos told reporters. “It’s a sensitive subject for a lot of people, but I think it’s something that needs to be more than just talked about. We need to start coming up with different solutions to avoid situations where, you know, people are losing their lives.”

Offensive lineman Billy Turner made a simple but meaningful post on Instagram, quoting scripture and saying, “Do to others as you would have them do to you.”

Allen Lazard tweeted a hopeful message as well, “Spread positivity and love the best way you can today. #FridayThoughts”

Tight end Jace Sternberger retweeted a quote from actor Will Smith that simply read, “Racism isn’t getting worse, it’s getting filmed.”

Defensive lineman Kingsley Keke retweeted a post by Denver Nuggets star Michael Porter, Jr., which reads, “As much as you pray for George family ,gotta also pray for the police officer(s) who were involved in this evil. As hard as it is, pray for them instead of hate them…Pray that G-d changes their hearts.”

Overall, the comments and social media posts by Packers players demonstrated a deep concern for the communities we all live in, our country and our collective future. While these people are gifted athletes who entertain us while wearing green and gold on football weekends, they are also thoughtful people who are doing their best to deal with the issues in the real world that affect us all.

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LombardiSince65's picture

May 30, 2020 at 12:32 pm

It is my hope and prayer that the Cheesehead community will take some time to roll this over in their hearts and take a peek in the mirror.

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splitpea1's picture

May 30, 2020 at 05:43 pm

Why? What did we have to do with any of this? Are we supposed to feel guilty about something?

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Tarynfor12's picture

May 30, 2020 at 06:17 pm

That's something nobody will ever succeed in doing to me, make me feel guilty for something which I have no part. Especially, just because I'm white.

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Coldworld's picture

May 30, 2020 at 06:52 pm

Not one of the quotes said you did it. Actually I just wanted to say that the quotes struck me as remarkably constructive and thoughtful. I just wanted to comment on the fact that it reflects well on our players that none of them went down the knee-jerk route. Good slap on the eye for the thoughtless jock stereotype.

Wish we could have lived up to their level.

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hacksaw61's picture

May 31, 2020 at 02:19 am

No one is asking you to feel guilty. It would be nice if you felt something for these people though.

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Since'61's picture

May 31, 2020 at 12:20 pm

Taryn - no one expects you to feel guilty. But this is happening in our country and it is happening to all of us and whether we participate or not if affects all of us.

Socio-economic and judicial changes are long overdue in our country.

This is our country and we are all responsible to some degree for what happens here. We either come together to bring about the needed changes or we continue to repeat these sad events over and over again.

If this was an isolated incident I might accept your position a little better. But this is a systemic on going problem in the USA and needs to be addressed. We need to allow our voices to be Peacefully heard and we everyone to vote for change. To remain silent is to accept and allow these injustices to continue. Be well. Since ‘61

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MTmind's picture

May 31, 2020 at 09:19 am

I think the problem, based on your response, is that you’re acting as though you’re outside of all this. I feel the same way to be honest. I often feel like I’ve got nothing to do with this, so what am I supposed to do? Feel guilty? I don’t think that’s the expectation. I think people who have been treated unfairly - who actually live in fear - want people like you and I to listen and understand. That’s all you got to do. Don’t act like you’re outside the problem because you don’t witness it on a day to day basis. That’s like closing your eyes to pretend something doesn’t exist... it still does and it’s still there regardless. By listening, you might feel some empathy rather than guilt. It’s not about “you”, so the guilt really doesn’t mean s*** anyway.

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Tarynfor12's picture

May 31, 2020 at 02:13 pm

I have empathy, but I have nor feel guilt.

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Bure9620's picture

May 31, 2020 at 07:36 am

Those responses to this comment were expected unfortunately......the "it's not me" or "I'm not going to feel sorry for anyone" response completely misses the point...this is a societal issue..we all live in this melting pot together and have to make it work together...

White people simply dont like white priviledge being thrown in their face...and just want to believe we are all treated the same....we are not...

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fthisJack's picture

June 01, 2020 at 06:40 pm

Some people can't see beyond their front door.

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greengold's picture

May 30, 2020 at 01:07 pm

THIS needs to be BIG! I'm caucasian, raised in complete suburban ignorance. I've spent much of my life trying to learn and gain understanding of what it must be like to have a different skin color. We all bleed the same color. I cannot stand discrimination, of any kind. I've been actively working to help our community in Milwaukee for years to augment peace, empathy and understanding... and, I will GLADLY continue to do so. I cannot fathom living each and every day in fear, at every turn.

It is good to hear how other Packers players have responded to this real crisis in our country, and I hope it opens minds and hearts. Take some action as opposed to being a bystander, and letting this go where it may. I would want others to act if the shoe were on the other foot. You should too.

We are all in this together, and let's take a stand for change, so this horrific racist activity STOPS. I stand with my brothers and sisters around the world for what is right and just. Do you? Think about which team YOU are on. If you're on the team of the right and the just, are you a bench warmer? Or, are you going to be an All-Star player?

Doing NOTHING is being a part of the problem. MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT.

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Tarynfor12's picture

May 30, 2020 at 01:22 pm

In 2016, there were, according to the FBI, 2870 blacks murdered in the US, and of those, 2570 were performed by black offenders and 243 were committed by white offenders.

In that same year, there were 3499 whites murdered and of those, 2854 offenders were white and 533 were black offenders.

I don't need to peek in any mirror as stated by LombardSince65 above, because the vast majority of murder inflicted on a race is by their own race.

Whites aren't hunting blacks as they come out of their homes doors as LeBron says, and if they are, it's by their own. Why is the weekly number of Chicago's murder of black on black, average of 12 per, always ignored.

Have the police been involved in the tragic death of black men while being arrested, absolutely, and those policemen need to be put in prison.

When the media gives as much outrage support to the murder of two late 80 year whites at the grave of their child and shot for no reason by a black man, don't tell me about being hunted, the numbers posted above tell the story and regrettably, there are parts that simply suck, but that's no excuse to justify what's happening or act like white people are hunting blacks as a hobby.

This cop should have been off the police force a long time ago. Ask the Police Commissioner why he wasn't and ask the Mayor to ask the PC why he wasn't. But don't point a finger at whites, simply because it's the easier thing to do.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/...

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BoxStuffer's picture

May 30, 2020 at 03:55 pm

It's not the easier thing to do.

It's the harder thing to do and you don't understand it.

Shalom.

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Tarynfor12's picture

May 30, 2020 at 04:37 pm

The easiest thing to do is point the finger at others. The hardest is to point the finger at yourself.
Shalom my ass.

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Cheeser's picture

May 30, 2020 at 11:57 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong but your stats are murders by race not police violence right? If so, elaborate on your point.

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4EVER's picture

May 31, 2020 at 07:52 pm

Tony Timpa death: Disturbing video shows Dallas police officers joking as they restrain man who died - CBS News

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tony-timpa-disturbing-video-shows-dallas-of...

Enough...

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4thand1's picture

June 01, 2020 at 12:07 am

Like your man the pricktator

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hacksaw61's picture

May 31, 2020 at 02:22 am

The point here is that this is a tragedy that keeps repeating itself. Nothing to do with your "stats". Everything to do with innocent people being hurt by the people we are supposed to put our faith in. No one is asking you to feel bad about yourself. They are stating the fact that, as actual human beings, their hearts hurt for these people being killed...and their families. Your knee jerk reaction in this statement and your others on this thread makes me wonder though.

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fthisJack's picture

May 31, 2020 at 09:39 am

We're talking POlice officers here...people sworn to uphold the law not random citizens. Look at the statistics that overwhelmingly show that Blacks are being killed for no reason by racist police officers as opposed to whites. Deny that and you are part of the problem.

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Tarynfor12's picture

May 31, 2020 at 02:42 pm

"Blacks are being killed for no reason by racist police officers as opposed to whites. Deny that and you are part of the problem."

For no reason, means you agree with the bs that LeBron claimed, that blacks are being hunted as soon as they walk out their door. So with that, I do deny it .

Does it happen, sure, as much as a black just randomly kills a white, for no reason.

A few years ago, 4 black kids sitting on a stoop felt bored, so when a lone white kid walked pass, they attacked him, just to have something to do.

What are the odds of a white person walking safely in a black neighborhood as opposed to a black walking safely in a white neighborhood. You want civility and change, start there and maybe progress is obtained and maybe, there won't be separate neighborhoods defined by race. But let's first understand what it will take to share a neighborhood while not trying to dictate one culture over the other, which will likely come to pass, eventually.

Before you say it, I lived in a multi racial neighborhood, i had and have many black friends, and as a student in my teens helped many a black classmate when offered or asked. I have 7 siblings and I know what it was like to be poor, as poor and needy as the blacks I knew and grew up with as I lived in the very project apartments with them. Want the address, 321 Harrison Street, Hoboken,NJ. Four 10 story buildings surrounded by multiple 3 story apartment complexes. Last I checked, about 15 years ago, there'd be no way I'd be able to have the same relationship with the blacks living there and it wouldn't be , For No Reason.

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fthisJack's picture

June 01, 2020 at 08:37 am

so....are you telling me there was a good reason for Chauvin to murder George Floyd? For supposedly passing a counterfeit 20? Eric Garner? Philando Castille? The list is getting longer.

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EddieLeeIvory's picture

May 31, 2020 at 03:12 pm

Liberals & brainwashed left wing radicals do NOT WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH.
They're an embarrassment.

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fthisJack's picture

June 01, 2020 at 08:42 am

Seems you orange hero is the one that has trouble with the truth.

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4EVER's picture

June 01, 2020 at 10:57 pm

Liberals are owned...the brainwashing has played them! YOU KNOW THE THING!!!

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Bearmeat's picture

May 30, 2020 at 01:26 pm

This whole thing. Again. It's just sickening. I feel for that man who was killed. For his girlfriend. For the people he affected. And I feel for the business owners hurt by the rioting. I understand why there is frustration, but it just sucks to see. And what sucks even more is that I don't see any way the systemic problems minorities face in our country will get better. All that is put out there on any sort of scale is so immensely politicized.

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Coldworld's picture

May 30, 2020 at 06:54 pm

Sadly so true. The real enemies are those for whom this is a source of income and fame on both sides.

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Lare's picture

May 30, 2020 at 01:42 pm

Everyone in this country has the right to express their opinions and peacefully protest what they disagree with.

That said, those that kill someone, riot, loot or damage property are criminals. They should be held accountable.

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hacksaw61's picture

May 31, 2020 at 02:23 am

Including law enforcement.

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fthisJack's picture

May 31, 2020 at 09:00 am

Right....and you know that when these things happen, there are always outside agitators that flock in to create havoc.

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dark42's picture

May 30, 2020 at 01:41 pm

What happened is a tragedy.

I'm a white man from Wisconsin Dells, WI. In '77 I was stationed in San Diego (USMC). I was having a house warming party for my first apartment. There were 6 of us, 2 roommates and 3 other friends - all Marines. We had music playing and were playing cards, drinking beer. One of my friends tends to laugh very loudly and he was doing a lot of that. Someone called the cops. They knocked on my door, and when I opened it 6 of them stormed in and threw my fellow Marines and myself on the floor with knees in our backs. This for a noise complaint at 7PM on a Friday night. There were no black or Hispanic jar heads or police in attendance. My loud friend started mouthing off about his rights and they took him away, beat him pretty severely before letting him go (after finding out his father was a congressman). That was my first and only party in San Diego.

A couple years later I was driving down the strip in Lake Delton, WI on my way to a friend's house to watch the Packers game. A state patrol was going in the opposite direction and made a U turn right behind me. Within a mile or so there were a dozen different cops following me. Eventually they turned on the lights and sirens, and I pulled into a gas station. Guns drawn, they dragged me from my car, threw me against the hood, searched me and handcuffed me. I had no idea what was happening but I kept my mouth shut. Eventually a local cop I'd gone to school with showed up and I asked what was going on. He said my '72 Satellite matched the description of a stolen car. There were still a half dozen guns pointed at me as I told him it was my car and and slowly retrieved my registration from the glove box. Only after verifying that it was legit did they put their guns away and remove the handcuffs.

Point is that both of those situations could easily have gotten out of hand if I hadn't been obedient and respectful. I'm not suggesting that Mr. Floyd wasn't doing the same. I am suggesting that some cops go overboard when adrenaline kicks in and race may have had nothing to do with it. But it was recorded, white cops killed a black man, so thousands of people use it as an excuse to act out.

I'm also not suggesting in any way that I know how it feels to be black in the USA.

There should be dire consequences for the MN cops involved in this. But I think it's more sad that people riot and loot in the name of race, making a very bad situation so much worse. If we look for bad in the world, we'll find it - and if we look for good in the world, we'll find that too.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

May 30, 2020 at 03:10 pm

What I primarily gleaned from your comments was how you accepted / normalized the brutishness and violence of the police force. Perhaps your perspective comes from your military mind-set There are psychologists who opine that there is a thin line that separates the criminals from the police. Of course there are many police officers who conduct themselves with integrity and caring. Conversely, there are many (too many) who do not - with George Floyd, and the many others who preceded him, being the end result.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 31, 2020 at 03:59 am

George Floyd was murdered in plain sight. Period. I live in the Twin Cities. I have dealt with the Mpls Police being a white man and it is fractious. Night and day difference between them and the StPaul police department. I was at the protest and clean ups on Saturday, peaceful and respectful people. The instigators and outside agitators, be they anarchists or white supremacists from out of State were the rioters and no doubt there were arsonists taking advantage of the situation. This is another example of a systemic problem that runs from the street all the way up to the Supreme Court. It has to change.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

May 30, 2020 at 04:25 pm

If it may appear that society is changing for the better - it is largely superficial. Meanwhile the core has remained unchanged and unchallenged for hundreds of years - being composed of power, wealth and privilege - and protected through the suppression and oppression of all other social classes. However when you are at the very bottom of the socio-economic hierarchy, there is practically no chance for a better life (and healthier society). George Floyd is the latest tragic statistic of this social design. Profound change will only happen from the inside-out, not, the outside-in.

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Tarynfor12's picture

May 30, 2020 at 03:21 pm

"However when you are at the very bottom of the socio-economic hierarchy, there is practically no chance for a better life (and healthier society)."

Stop. There are as many whites in the same socio-economic place. You ignore it because of the higher population numbers of whites than blacks. The oppression that you speak to doesn't allow for the self-induced infliction in the black communities, but accept quickly the bs that they have no choice or outlet from drugs, crime etc and the constant failure to do anything about such, in their community in the first place, you know or hear it all the time, the code of the hood. See nothing, say nothing, do nothing, which is now the agenda of any Democratic run city.

A community that allows outsiders to destroy their community deserves no justice for the damage they and their elected officials allowed happening. The residents are getting what they deserve via their own ignorance, the planting of the seed of destruction.

I would support and respect the black residents plight much more, if they showed up to defend the businesses being destroyed and not stand aside allowing it to freely happen. It makes them as much the accomplice to a crime, as they are screaming about the other three policemen.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

June 01, 2020 at 12:00 pm

You have attempted to racialize my comments into a Black only issue - which unfortunately is a very short-sighted view on a very deep and broad issue. The reality is that any person, group, culture or race who have been tamped-down for centuries, into the lowest socio-economic order - will exhibit behaviors commensurate to oppression, abuse, assault and enforced poverty. It just so happens that in the U.S., the black community comprises the largest portion of the lowest socio-economic order (and this is not by accident). Moreover, this will remain so until major reforms come from the Power Elite - to this social class - which is highly unlikely. Nor is the solution to inflict continued violence on these embattled communities. While It is unfortunate that some of these communities are self-harming - like looting and property destruction - this should not be a surprise. This is merely a psychological symptom of when you rob or deny an individual / community of hope, opportunity and respect - regardless if they're Black, Brown, White, Asian etc

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May 30, 2020 at 05:55 pm

Blacks have tamped-down others as much as whites have in history. Get off the Revisionist bs soapbox.

Others, who have suffered equally have risen above, or in your word, hierarchy, of the socio-economical system, achieved such by education and not undoing what they achieved by doing what is happening now in their cities and neighborhoods.

Blacks are more easily incited to do harm to themselves and proof is in the carnage they do and/or allow done by others, outside agitators, to them, who are black by a vast majority.

They don't even realize they put themselves back to lower end of the hierarchy over, and over again.

Yes, the tragedy of George Floyd is horrible, and justice for it will come, but the destruction of their communities is all on them and nobody else,

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Alberta_Packer's picture

May 30, 2020 at 09:40 pm

Given the tenor of your comments - perhaps you'll have better engagement and acceptance at a more 'white-centric" forum.

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fordguy's picture

May 30, 2020 at 10:09 pm

Something you seem to not be understanding is that you can be as successful is what you want to work for. Success comes with work ethic not skin color.

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Oppy's picture

May 30, 2020 at 10:34 pm

Your comments are ugly and telling.

I am disappointed that CHTV readers seem to approve.

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Coldworld's picture

May 31, 2020 at 07:53 am

Agreed.

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Cheeser's picture

May 31, 2020 at 12:07 am

Not only is your premise wrong, it's dumb. You're discussing total number but rate/percentage is the correct metric.

https://www.povertyusa.org/facts

Further, you just seem like an ass.

Aside from this thread, I've been reading ctv forever and your writing (though you think it yo be good) is somehow shittttyer than your actual football takes.

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Bure9620's picture

May 31, 2020 at 07:35 am

Define "suffered equally?"
Systemically, trying to say white and blacks suffered equally just is not true. Brown v Board was a landmark decision for a reason......Lynchings were happing in the south as recently as the 60s. These were like social gatherings.

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Tarynfor12's picture

May 31, 2020 at 01:28 pm

Jewish, Irish, Scottish to name three that would be easy for your history academic to not easily ignore.

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Bure9620's picture

June 01, 2020 at 06:04 am

Hahaha Yes I always think of the Scotts and Irish when measuring historical systematic inequity as most were brought over and enslaved...Seriously??
Yes Jews have been persecuted against for thousands of years, but they do not face the systematic and institutional racism in the US African Americans do. There are simply not many poor Jews living in poverty living in over policed neighborhoods being killed.

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4EVER's picture

June 03, 2020 at 01:37 pm

That doesn't fit in with the agenda...YOU NOW THE THING! The academic cutting and pasting of History and Math is entirely to easy and malicious.

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fthisJack's picture

June 01, 2020 at 08:49 am

I can see you true racist colors bleeding through!!!

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May 31, 2020 at 04:02 am

You are clueless.

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May 31, 2020 at 09:21 am

I feel sorry for you. Ignorance incarnate

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May 31, 2020 at 12:12 pm

"See nothing, say nothing, do nothing, which is now the agenda of any 'Democratic' run city."

Well, that certainly clears up a lot. Isn't there a rally for a certain orange skinned baboon you could be attending?

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May 31, 2020 at 12:30 pm

I usually reserve my cookies for Dobber but you definitely deserve a bag of cookies for that comment 13T. Well done! Stay well. Thanks, Since ‘61

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June 01, 2020 at 08:53 am

LOL.

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fordguy's picture

May 30, 2020 at 02:39 pm

First of all Gil, that's a cheap shot saying 4 policeman killed him. One has been charged and to say otherwise is wrong. Wait until the investigation is over. Reports are coming out that they had worked together as security at a bar. So if it's the case that the cop knew him and that's why it happened, then it's not about random racism from the police. Then they can up the charges on him to 1st or 2nd degree murder

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May 31, 2020 at 02:37 am

Stop...there is a photo of the incident with all four kneeling on him. There is audio of him saying he can't breathe. The other three are responsible because they did nothing to ameliorate the situation. They are all adults and all trained...they could have stopped it before it went over the line. And before you get upset, I am a first responder and deal with these situations every day when I am at work. I know that we deal with dangerous people all the time. I know that we have no idea who or what we are dealing with when we show up. But it is the nature of the job. We have a higher standard that we must hold ourselves to, and this sort of thing can NOT happen.

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May 31, 2020 at 04:05 am

Three pinned him to the ground without provocation, Thao watched like a coward.

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May 31, 2020 at 09:04 am

They were all complicit in this murder. If 4 guys pull up at a liquor store and 1 goes in and kills the clerk....all three are charged with murder....accomplices! but not the cops?

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Coldworld's picture

May 31, 2020 at 02:50 pm

No, we don’t know, and we don’t make kangaroo convictions. This attitude is part of the problem. Film out of context can be misleading. One would think people would have learn that this kind of rush to conclusions is a cause not a source of resolution.

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June 02, 2020 at 07:00 pm

so we wait for the police and the DA's to come up with some whitewashed story to explain away what clearly is a murder?

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June 01, 2020 at 06:09 pm

Mike Freeman has been tossed from this--that cracker is finished. Hennepin County Medical Examiner confirmed
casuse of death Murder by asphyxiation. This will not be swept under the rug.

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May 31, 2020 at 02:14 pm

All I did is ask for the writer to stick too the facts. One has been charged, not four. Then made a comment on other details that could up the charges. Where did I say what they did was justified? So before you come with your bs telling me not to get upset. Try to stick with the facts, not your emotions.

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June 01, 2020 at 06:06 am

You did not had a single fact in your post.
yeah, alternativ, orange facts, we all just called lies 4 years ago. in the end all of them would be charged and thats more than right.
But we will need a lot of years to clean this mess up. He is really ran this country into the ground. And I was a Republican.....

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June 02, 2020 at 12:20 pm

"You did not had a single fact in your post".
Besides not being able to spell, looks like you can't read either, One cop has been charged, not four. That's a fact you stupid son of bitch.

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May 31, 2020 at 12:11 pm

thanks for commenting fordguy. Not trying to place legal blame on anybody in particular. The courts will straighten that out and I hope justice will be done, whatever that turns out to be. There were four police officers on the scene at the time of his death. Perhaps I should have been more specific with my wording.

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May 30, 2020 at 03:52 pm

I'm not saying what happened is right, but the police have a job to do, and if you resist arrest, you're just asking for trouble. You can mouth off all you want to, but you can't get into physical altercations with the officer and expect to be handled with kid gloves. Now you would think everyone, regardless of race, would understand this (especially those in middle age), but apparently this is not the case. So maybe the police need to do a better job of instructing the citizens on prudent ways of interacting with them to avoid needless commotion and injury.

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May 31, 2020 at 12:00 am

Sure but once you're on your belly, hands cuffed, knee to your neck... are you really resisting anymore? 4 on 1?

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June 01, 2020 at 10:22 pm

What video were you watching? I didn't realize that if a woman is placed in handcuffs next to a car and then she gets walked to the sidewalk and forced to sit down while asking the officer what is going on. And then 2 officers to tell her to stand up and walk her over to a police car across the street and lo and behold now there are 2 police cars for her to go into with still handcuffs on but no, she gets forced to lay face down next to one of the police cars where one of the officers opens the door to hide what the other 3 officers are doing to her. and then she is laying face down on the ground while one officer puts his fxking knee on her throat while 3 other officers place their knees on her back. And then eventually she dies from strangulation. Lovely....

Yes siree, that really sounds like she was resisting arrest now doesn't it?

You sir are a fool!

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fthisJack's picture

May 31, 2020 at 09:05 am

BULLLSHIT!

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wildbill's picture

May 30, 2020 at 09:21 pm

Annualized percentage of people killed by the police in the USA. 55% white, 27% black, 18% Hispanic. Where is the outrage for the white deaths which is double the black? No mention of the Hispanic deaths either. Any life that has been wrongly taken is a tragedy but why are the black deaths more tragic than White or Hispanic.

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May 31, 2020 at 09:17 am

Dude, you're comparing apples to oranges. the % of blacks in the US population is 15%. do the math and tell me again that this country is not full of white cracker ass racists.

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May 31, 2020 at 11:01 am

Oh yea there are no racist but whites. Your racist rant proves my point very well Karen

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May 31, 2020 at 12:20 pm

Your crossing the line now with your comments , your implying only white people are racist? Ok got it

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fastmoving's picture

June 01, 2020 at 06:36 am

If you know what white people did in the history of that planet, how can anyone think they are better in something is beyond me. You must be really blind.
And the choices the made in the last 4 years are even more strange and complet crazy. So you must rally get played by Fox News to believe in this conspiracy theories.
All people have the same DNA and there are good and bad ones everywhere, no matter what you are looking for

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June 02, 2020 at 12:36 pm

"If you know what white people did in the history of that planet, how can anyone think they are better in something is beyond me."

You have never looked at how many black people are living in Africa with no hands, because another black person cut them off so they could never fire a gun. You must never see how many blacks are killed at the hands of other blacks in this country. But yeah, it's always the white peoples fault.

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June 01, 2020 at 09:09 am

Not crossing any line. Do you know anything about history? Read some books on slavery and the 150 years since the slaves have been freed and tell me there is no systemic racism in this country. Educate yourself before you embarrass yourself.

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June 01, 2020 at 10:41 pm

The slaves that were brought here by black slave owners and were owned by southern Democrats, yes I know American hidtory.

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June 02, 2020 at 07:05 pm

I see you had to bring politics into it...go suck some more orange ass!

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May 31, 2020 at 08:48 pm

Because Black people were enslaved. Took forever for the civil rights act to come into play to boot. Since then racism has manifested in many other ways.

Not saying white people being killed by police isn't bad - it is. The outrage isn't there in terms of coverage likely because of the context of American History.

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June 01, 2020 at 06:25 am

Strange post. If there would be another video of such a killing, no matter what color, there would be the same result.
Other than that, if the population has only 12 percent black, so your number made it even worse. But you should see people as equal, not play one race against another. We are all human, but this racism is hard to overlook and the Orange its just there because of it.

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4EVER's picture

June 02, 2020 at 12:08 am

You are a moron!

Youtube - Tony Timpa

YOU KNOW THE THING!!!

No cops arrested
No protests
No riots
No coverage
No Antifa
No AllLivesMatter

They laughed over his dead body!

Quote:
There's about 44 million African Americans in this country

Last year 245 were killed by cops. 9 were unarmed.

If my math is correct that’s 0.000006%, literally

What are yall even doing at this point?

-Brandon Tatum

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May 30, 2020 at 09:29 pm

A handcuffed man was choked to death by another man while other men looked on and ignored his pleas for help.

I’m 65, but I guarantee I can get a handcuffed man in the back seat without killing him. Especially if I had cops to help me. People absolutely need to go to jail for this.

The rioting is counterproductive and is sadly used by some to justify criminal acts. Many of the people being arrested appear to be from out of state, and there are reports that some may have been bussed in. That would take money, and if you follow the money you’ll have some answers.

On my Facebook page, I have a video of a woman being beheaded for adultery in Saudi Arabia, in broad daylight on a public street, because it’s just so wrong to me on so many levels. But this video of George Floyd is the worst thing I’ve ever seen because it’s just done out in the open by cops against a helpless person who begged them to stop.

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May 31, 2020 at 09:19 am

and there were bystanders pleading for them to stop.....first fucking degree murder!

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Coldworld's picture

May 31, 2020 at 02:58 pm

In the old days you would be the mob leader calling for swift justice Even if you are correct, are you sure it was racist not personal? Are you sure you aren’t conflating it with your own agenda? Sure looks like it from here. If we convict on posted phone snippets, heaven help us all.

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May 31, 2020 at 03:24 pm

Cold world. Does it make a difference if it was racial? It would be wrong, regardless, and it would still boil down to a police officer choking a handcuffed man to death...slowly...while other officers ignored him asking for help.

I despise the race baiters who immediately began to use this to promote their own agendas, and the media that makes millions off of human suffering. This is horrible enough without people making it worse for their own purposes.

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May 31, 2020 at 04:28 pm

To the victim no, it makes no difference. To those many who seek to categorize, yes. Motive matters just as facts matter. Causes go unaddressed when falsely identified.

There is a story here. It is not a good one, but the one certain thing is none of us know why this occurred. Leaping to conclusions as evident here is exactly the wrong way to go for justice and prevention.

Given many of the comments here, I am left impressed by how well the players handled the issue. Emotion has already led to more deaths for no purpose. It’s clearly causing many to close their ears and others to rise up in “righteous” certainty they can’t possibly truly possess. That, surely, is the worst possible combination.

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June 01, 2020 at 09:22 am

The video shows that it was clearly murder. Nobody can get into this degenerates mind and say for sure the reason/ reasons. The fact is he killed a black man in cold blood. And the facts are that there is systemic racism in the police departments. So if you want to quibble about why he did it and claim it may have been personal is beside the point. We will never know!

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Since'61's picture

May 30, 2020 at 11:01 pm

My Dad was NYPD for 27 years, 52 - 79. For the first 15 years of his career he walked a beat alone in the 28th Precinct. The 28 is in Harlem. A predominantly black low income neighborhood in the upper East side of Manhattan. During the years my Dad was there it was one of the epicenters of the Civil Rights movement.

My Dad was attacked by knife wielding suspects, had bricks thrown at him, was shot at etc. Bottom line is that he was involved in all types of situations. He arrested plenty of suspects who defined the meaning of resisting arrest and he never had occasion to do to anyone what was done to George Floyd in the video. He would be appalled if he were still alive to see it. There is no excuse for what was done by those officers in Minneapolis. The man was down on the ground in handcuffs. He was a threat to no one.

When the police fail to uphold the law we have chaos and that is what we are seeing in many US cities right now. The mindset that the police can do whatever they want or claim that someone is resisting arrest so that they can abuse their suspect is ridiculous and needs to stop about 50 - 60 years ago.

I don’t understand why an officer with 18 civilian complaints is out on the streets in the first place. Someone or someone’s need to be investigated for allowing that to happen. Again no excuses.

What we are seeing in the protests is the failure of the US to deal with racism in this country. It has been far too long and it has always been wrong. I take hope in the fact that I am seeing many white people join with people of color in these protests. It is time for all Americans to stand and march together and enable the socio-economic changes that can at least begin to bring an end to the racism in this country.

Poverty breeds crime. That is true in every country. The difference is that here in the USA we have the resources to deal with it and to help our people if we choose to. We don’t, at least not yet. Too much greed and corruption.

As for the police I have always supported the police and always will but bad cops need to be disciplined and if necessary removed from the force long before things reach the point they did in Minneapolis. Bad cops are a stain on the reputation of the 99.9% of the police who perform their jobs correctly and protect all of us.

We have seen this movie too often in America. It’s time for this to stop. Thanks, Since ‘61

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May 31, 2020 at 04:20 am

Your father represents the high mark of policing. Since the "law and order" rhetoric starting in the 80's the police forces across the Country have been getting more and more militarized. I have family members that are retired Milwaukee cops and they are disgusted by these renegade officers. The training has to be re-booted and the suppression holds need to go. A four year degree in criminal justice and strict enforcement of the code of conduct have to be put in place. This summer is going to be a tinderbox of conflict in any case with the Cov-19 pandemic and massive UE. The safety net is broken for those on the bottom ,be they White, Black, Asian or Brown.

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May 31, 2020 at 09:36 am

jannes - Excellent point about police forces becoming more militarized. Originally it was in response to the increase in guns on the streets. Then after 9/11, the federal gov’t provided funds for city police departments to purchase equipment to protect against terrorism.

What needs to happen is more effective training and better policing of the police. Officers need to be disciplined and no one with 18 civilian complaints should be on the streets.

Agree on the possibility of a tinderbox summer and the loss of the safety net.

We need as Bobby Kennedy stayed on the evening of the MLK assassination. “What America needs is not violence. What America needs is understanding, what America needs is love, what America needs is compassion.” Thanks, Since ‘61

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May 31, 2020 at 11:47 am

Remember the two Swedish cops on vacation in NYCity disarming and retaining a suspect w/out use of force, just good training in hand-to-hand.

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May 31, 2020 at 01:59 pm

Yes, absolutely. Thanks, Since ‘61

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May 31, 2020 at 06:57 pm

I'm sorry to keep getting on you because I generally like your comments, but I think you're trying to relive your hippie days by referring to departed figures from over half a century ago. This is 2020, not 1968. It's a different country with a different culture.

Should we expect police officers to be soldiers and saints at the same time--especially when they know the district attorney might not have their backs? Seems a little unrealistic.

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fthisJack's picture

June 01, 2020 at 07:07 pm

"different country, different culture" but the same old racism now being stoked by an Orange Hitler.

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splitpea1's picture

June 01, 2020 at 08:18 pm

I'll bet you sing Pete Seeger songs in the shower every morning.

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June 02, 2020 at 07:12 pm

nah...more a NIN and Marilyn Manson guy!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

May 31, 2020 at 04:23 am

Agreed. It has become abundantly clear that law enforcement cannot police themselves. Every complaint against a law enforcement officer should be reviewed by a civilian board, a board that has subpoena power. Such a board might need the ability to refer the matter to an independent prosecutor or issue a writ of mandamus. That last sentence needs some thought, but I do think we need to re-think prosecutorial discretion.

It should be a serious misdemeanor for a law enforcement officer to impede the ability of the press or any bystander with a smart phone (etc.) from videotaping an arrest or any incident.

These remedies won't end racism or excessive force incidents like Mr. Floyd's case. I am open to suggestions. I do think class is another factor in such cases.

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Coldworld's picture

May 31, 2020 at 08:00 am

Where that has been tried it has tended to become even more political either to the point of undermining the force or investigation. In an era where impartiality has been drowned in partisan careerism, independent boards are hard to come by and sustain.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 31, 2020 at 05:16 pm

Yeah. Independent minds, too.

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June 01, 2020 at 04:28 am

I have never heard of a civilian review board with subpoena power. There are civilian review boards, and I agree that they are very political, but none with real authority that I know of.

I am genuinely interested in reading about any such review boards with real authority.

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fordguy's picture

June 02, 2020 at 12:55 pm

Look no further then Chicago, they have one. They made a rule that for every interaction they (the police) have with someone they have to write out two full pages in a report. It's part of the reason Chicago has gone to hell because the cops don't want write the reports so they don't stop anyone. Or can't do their jobs because they spend half of their shift writing out the reports.

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May 31, 2020 at 09:23 am

Don't you think the police unions have a lot to do with not being able to get rid of bad apples? l love unions but to protect this kind of scum is allowing the racism that is imbedded in the police forces.

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splitpea1's picture

May 31, 2020 at 11:45 am

With all due respect, the time has passed for standing, marching, protesting, rioting, and looting. We've seen this movie too often before--in the 1960's. Enable socioeconomic changes? Does that mean raising taxes to fund more government projects and bureaucracy? Is that supposed to end poverty, reduce crime, improve the schools, keep the neighborhoods clean, etc.? No, I think the answers start with individual responsibility and the willingness to listen to a different style of leadership instead of relying on big government to solve all their problems.

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fastmoving's picture

June 01, 2020 at 06:18 am

yeah but we never had any kind of big government. We just had good or better Government. Accept the last 4 years, were we have the worst Government on a global basis the world ever saw and everyone agrees on that……...…
But your right that the last 4 years the bureaucracy got out off hand, like everything. Men, and now we have to bail out the capitalism again with socialist funding. Like every 10 years………
And its not their problem (if you not a russian troll), its ours……...…….....

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June 01, 2020 at 11:19 am

I'm pretty sure it's not the case that "everyone agrees on that...." But I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise--everyone can believe what they want to believe. The only suggestion I would make is that you proofread your posts with regard to spelling and grammar because they look like a bunch of discombobulated gibberish.

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May 31, 2020 at 06:29 pm

Since61 your dad was busting heads everyday, I was a cop in NYC too I came on after your dad , he worked in tough times , I caught the end of it , the old timers that taught me were carrying axe handles instead of batons and many carried a .45 when we had .38’s , maybe he never told you but unfortunately sometimes we had to do use whatever force was necessary. This cop in Minneapolis never should have been on patrol after being involved in 3 shootings.

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June 01, 2020 at 06:49 am

Of course that explains nothing at all.
My uncle was a cop all his life and always used to say he never saw so much racism like there.

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May 31, 2020 at 07:08 am

When I first saw the footage of the Minneapolis riots I thought “oh no - the vikes have extended Cousins again”!

Seriously though, what was that officer with his knee on the neck thinking? Social media is a fraught platform at the best of times but this time it’s served its purpose in allowing citizens to film and bring this atrocity to the light. enough is enough.

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May 31, 2020 at 07:36 am

At first glance, a situation like this in Minneapolis provokes in all of us a visceral angry. A ration approach to this event is to step back, take a deep breath and reaccess the situation. Allow the facts to come and react accordingly.

Not one side has condoned (right or left) the actions of the officer involved. Yet, radical elements in our society have used this a pretense for violence and political leverage. I wholeheartedly support "Tarynfort 12's" comments. Why? Because he's right.

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June 01, 2020 at 06:44 am

Yeah that radical element on top of our society does that all the time, you are right.

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nygary's picture

May 31, 2020 at 07:55 am

What that cop did was insane. He had his knee on the Floyd's neck for 9 minutes. He would have done Floyd a favor if he would have just shot him instead of choking him to death. I'm a white male from New York, and when i watch the video it's so wrong for so many reasons.

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May 31, 2020 at 08:53 am

I spent 26 years in law enforcement in NYC, I still can’t figure out what was going on, no resistance but the cops were calm and knew people were filming, there has to be more to the story.

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May 31, 2020 at 08:56 am

Say what??? the guy was murdered plain and fucking simple!

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May 31, 2020 at 10:29 am

I am not defending the cops at all I never saw anything like this , just doesn’t make sense,the problem here is that with 3 shootings one fatal this cop should never have been back on the street , here in NYC if your involved in a shooting especially fatal , your removed from patrol for a desk job for your own mental health.

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May 31, 2020 at 11:56 am

Lp, for some reason there seems to be something amiss here. George worked security at the same club down the street from 3rd precinct as Chauvin. Was there a shakedown operation being run by Chauvin and his crew? There are questions that that need to be answered. My friend knew George from that neighborhood. He was a gentle giant and a man of God. See if Mike Freeman will do the right thing in Hennepin County, but that is asking a lot from that inbred crowd at the top.

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June 01, 2020 at 04:36 am

He was allegedly passing a counterfeit $20 bill. He may have been a gentle giant (in which case he was miscast as a bouncer) but men of God don't defraud others. Mr. Floyd didn't deserve to be murdered for doing such a thing, if he did it, but perhaps your comment is a little much.

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May 31, 2020 at 04:46 pm

Lphill, my thoughts precisely. There is something that doesn’t make sense about this to me in the simplistic narrative. That could make this more alarming not less, but it certainly argues for not taking things at face value.

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fastmoving's picture

June 01, 2020 at 07:06 am

not much more than racism…….but hey, you will find a conspiracy theory like they normally do these days days to cover there racism.

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May 31, 2020 at 08:55 am

Incidents like this make me embarrassed to be a white man. As much as I am pro union, this maggot had a bunch of incidents on his record and he should should have been fired long before this happened. The union won't allow it.....that has to change along with laws that protect these assholes from excessive force.

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May 31, 2020 at 10:41 am

Your wrong to feel embarrassed to be white , if you treat people with respect you are a good person , I am not ever apologizing for being white, a 80 year old white couple the Marino’s were visiting their sons grave last week in Maryland in a veterans cemetery and a 26 year old black man walked over and shot them to death because he hates white people. I don’t think any blacks are gonna say they are embarrassed to be black over this.

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June 01, 2020 at 07:02 am

A lot of people fell embarrassed to be white and we should be. Not just for that single thing. We have a lot of that stuff going on in the last 500 years…..and we can be sure we treated the other race pretty bad. But we can do better and we have to. A lot of it its our fault.
And of course black people feel the same sometimes.
I got you try to play people against people and thats the biggest problem in this country. You always sound like you a big part of the problem instead of the solution.
And by the way your story sounds like all the fabricated stories you hear from the orange propaganda

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June 01, 2020 at 08:15 am

Orange propaganda fuels a lot of these hate crimes. can't wait until the day he is wearing orange!

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WisconsinStrong's picture

May 31, 2020 at 09:21 am

Sheesh, from some of the reactions to this story, you'd think certain readers of CHTV are the victims. You'd also think that certain readers are not actually Packers fans and do not actually support or respect the players as men (but that's nothing new for the CHTV comments section, sadly). GilMartin let the players speak; not a single one of the players pointed "the finger at white people," as one rather confused individual posted. It's not a challenging article: read the words, and hear the players' voices. Our players are united in their feelings of fear and sadness, as are the vast majority of Americans of all colors.

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May 31, 2020 at 09:28 am

The problem is white people like you not being outraged by incidents like this. If this was a white guy would you be so unconcerned?

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Qoojo's picture

May 31, 2020 at 10:38 am

Did you actually read his whole comment?

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May 31, 2020 at 06:21 pm

I am outraged as much as anyone else and believe those cops should get the max, but let me ask you this , last week in Maryland an 80 year old white couple visiting their sons grave in a veterans cemetery were shot dead by a 26 year old black man who hated White people, where is the outrage over this ? How do you feel about it ?

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fastmoving's picture

June 01, 2020 at 08:06 am

Did your couple murdered by cops who should protect us? Man, pretty sure there were Millions of criminal actions every months. And the criminals should pay for it, no matter who they are and if they look like. Thats what this country is all about, not even a President.
Man, you are so wrong and CK was so right and now we all should wake up. Flint Police kneeling is a beginning. We should all kneeling…......

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May 31, 2020 at 12:26 pm

In your racist mind you believe whites are not outraged do you can justice more pain and suffering to these communities being destroyed.

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Coldworld's picture

May 31, 2020 at 01:51 pm

In your own words you are white. Quite frankly it’s clear you see the world through a colored lens just as much if not more than many here. Your type of world view is as racist as others, or inverse racist as it’s sometimes called. It’s part of the reason there isn’t more reason in topics like this and, sadly, it is defeating g of the cause you so emotionally espouse on behalf of others. You can’t defeat racism through a racist world view.

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June 02, 2020 at 07:30 pm

no....not reverse racism....disgust over the old white scared MFer's that support the Orange POS in the WH who sows this division and promotes these racial incidents. Private Bonespur gins up the White Supremacists, Nazi's and his ignorant racist supporters. If you are one....you are a racist! He "loves the uneducated."

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May 31, 2020 at 10:37 am

Part of the problem is an unwritten code within the police to always side with a fellow officer, even over the law. So I very much hope that the policemen that stood by and watched get charged and eventually do some prison time too, because that code needs to break. If the Police police themselves, then they can weed the crazy types out. But the cops have a gang like mentality of snitches get stitches, even though the snitches in this case are the ones upholding the law.

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May 31, 2020 at 12:00 pm

It goes all the way up to the Supreme Court and the Scalia decision on 4th amendment interpretation.

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JerseyAl's picture

May 31, 2020 at 01:34 pm

I've been saying this for years. The blue wall of silence needs to be torn down. Allowing bad cops to get away with being bad cops taints the image of all the good cops out there. Good cops have to band together and realize there is no dishonor in "ratting" out those that sully the reputations of the good guys.

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May 31, 2020 at 02:13 pm

Good job Al. Agree completely. Stay well. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Coldworld's picture

May 31, 2020 at 02:44 pm

The problem is surely that the polarization of society makes that much harder to achieve. I agree that this must happen, it’s just that I can also see that in a world where people convict on a post and others make their living on an anti police agenda I see it as much less likely.

We may yet find that this story is far less clear than its claimed, particularly if its true that these two knew each other. If true, this may not be racist at all, albeit equally wrong.
But facts don’t suit many here. Let’s be honest, it’s pretty clear that some were waiting g for just such a situation on which to pour gasoline.

It’s good to be angry. It’s better to know what you are angry about and not be hijacked and used by others. Sadly, that’s what this has become. Sadder still that many of those impacted are those the protesters supposedly seek to champion. As to this cop, he has as much right to justice as any civil rights victim. But justice requires cool heads and clear evidence, not a few seconds of images shorn if context or knee-jerk conclusions of any type.

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fthisJack's picture

June 02, 2020 at 07:44 pm

Oh...like he had a good reason to murder another human being? Get real.

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May 31, 2020 at 02:29 pm

The protests are beautiful and uplifting. The riots are awful and terrible. And the only connection they have is the rioters using the protests to hide their actions. The rioters are hoping to make you hate the protesters and it seems to be working.

As long as a group feels so hopeless and is sure that justice will never be seen, anger is unavoidable. As long as MVS can write about experiences that show DWB is alive and well in 2020, anger is unavoidable. As long as peaceful protests result in being reviled to the level Colin Kapernick remains reviled, anger is unavoidable. Anger can be productive or anger can be destructive. The current climate of the United States does not give much hope for meaningful change and we will probably be replaying all these exact comments when the same thing happens again a few years from now.

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May 31, 2020 at 04:13 pm

"...and we will probably be replaying all these exact comments when the same thing happens again a few years from now."

Unfortunately, "a few years from now", is sadly optimistic.

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May 31, 2020 at 09:51 pm

Thank you for your insight, Adorabelle. It was very refreshing to read this comment among a few that completely missed the point of the article and, I suppose, prove your point about the climate not giving much hope. I am grateful to Gil Martin for elevating the players' voices. I thought his piece was very well done, and how readers could interpret it as an indictment of being white is beyond me. When Davante speaks of his fears as a father, or MVS speaks of being questioned about why he's standing on the field he's on, and we feel threatened by that . . . it's beyond words. All of our players, black and white, are suffering tonight like most of the rest of us, and I pray change will come.

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fastmoving's picture

June 01, 2020 at 07:51 am

Well written, well written…..thank you.

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June 01, 2020 at 08:22 am

Haters will hate no matter what. They see the world in black and white, no shades of grey anywhere in their color spectrum.

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May 31, 2020 at 03:10 pm

the fact that all of you know the names of George & Trayvon & Brown, even tho that's 3 people over 10 years, but NONE OF YOU know who ANY of these names are, says a LOT about YOU & the narrative of the media.

Channon Christian
Delbert Fenton
Fannie Gumbinger
Alison Parker
Anne Pressly
Jessica Chambers
Kelly Erb AND Marilyn Erb
Lauren Burke
Eve Carson
Sean Taylor

So many more I can't remember their names, including some right by me where a mom from Nepal was robbed & murdered by yet another ABM.

EVERYONE (all races) in law enforcement or who studies real statistics knows what's up. There are reasons that all in the know are on alert around those who look like Rae Carruth.

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May 31, 2020 at 04:19 pm

Because, in a country of over 330,000,000, we don't know the names of all the victims of violent crime.....proves what exactly?

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Lphill's picture

May 31, 2020 at 08:32 pm

A white couple in their 80’s the Marino’s last week in Maryland were visiting their sons grave in a veterans cemetery when a black man shot them to death. Lydia and Paul Marino

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fastmoving's picture

June 01, 2020 at 07:55 am

like usually you missed everything. but maybe you are just trying to spread your misinformation. Maybe you should not hung around all day in the donut shop and worked a little bit sometimes.

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June 04, 2020 at 03:29 pm

Lydia and Paul Marino will have to rest in peace, with the 6 down votes for being murdered.

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May 31, 2020 at 03:10 pm

Gil if your removing posts then just remove this entire story , political posts only lead to someone’s feelings being hurt, censorship does not help.

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fastmoving's picture

June 01, 2020 at 07:12 am

If your post are removes nothings lost and a lot of guys will like it. And we all thank god for twitter and it should only the beginning…….
I thought Taylor Swift just nailed it pretty good

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June 01, 2020 at 06:28 am

Unarmed man is murdered by the police over nothing.

Comment section: "I won't feel guilty, what about whites, most black people are killed by black people, there are more poor whites, BUT WHAT ABOUT WHITES, the media lies, BLACK man shot white couple last week"

SMH

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June 01, 2020 at 11:34 am

So? You didn't think the dialogue here was going to be completely harmonious, did you?

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June 04, 2020 at 12:56 pm

Well said Swede, it’s sad. I guess I should feel good that a greater percentage of comments and likes on this page are more hopeful, but I don’t. It’s always surprising no matter how many times I see it, to see the hate. And there is always way more of it than I want to believe exists.

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June 01, 2020 at 04:52 am

I forgot to mention that qualified immunity has to go or be sharply curtailed as well. It is a court doctrine, so a statute can overturn it.

Another possibility to mingle the money necessary for insurance for police excessive force actions with the police pension fund.

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