Packers DO NOT DRAFT list from CheeseheadTV
CheeseheadTV writers tell you who the Packers should avoid in the 2024 NFL draft.
By JerseyAl
Here are some thoughts from our writers on players they wouldn't want to see the Packers draft. Later today, you'll get their Packers first-round pick predictions.
Jonathan Krim - Nate Wiggins. I don’t care how fast he is, his build should be a disqualifier. We’ve seen enough of skinny, spindly legged players (Kevin King and Eric Stokes to name a couple) who cannot stay healthy in a league that keeps getting bigger, stronger and heavier. I will be petitioning Kent Lee Platte to add an SFL (stick-figure legs) metric to his RAS (Relative Athletic Score).
Tony Wilson - Keon Coleman. While yes, Coleman had a pile of WOW plays and very well could be a stud receiver in the NFL, that position is just not of high value this year in my opinion, save for Marvin Harrison Jr. slipping to 25. The WR spot will indeed get additional competition, but the core of Christian Watson, Jayden Reed, Dontayvion Wicks and Romeo Doubs is dynamic. There's no need to spend that capital on a receiver.
Mike Price - Darius Robinson. I'll couch this by acknowledging that it is not very likely that the Packers would take Darius Robinson and his 4.01 RAS in the first round. But let's say Gute can't get over his addiction for thick edges and is tempted, I just can't justify, in my head, spending another first on the same type of player. If you need to take another big edge and you don't care about athleticism, wait and do it in the fifth and take an offensive lineman in the first like everyone is predicting.
Cory Jennerjohn - Chop Robinson. He has all of the drool-worthy attributes that draftniks love like a 4.48 40-yard dash and 34.5-inch vertical jump. But his biggest issue is that he doesn’t close out plays. What’s the point of having all that athleticism if you’re not going to put it to use?
Maggie Loney - Nate Wiggins. Wiggins is about as freaky of an athlete as they come. He posted a 9.44 relative athletic score and ran a 4.28 40-yard dash at his pro day. There's a lot to like in his game, but it's hard to look past his slight frame at 6-1 and only 173lbs. The Packers need to get more physical on defense, especially against the run, and that's an area of Wiggins' game that needs to improve. He'd be an incredibly fun prospect to watch, but I'm not sure he's best suited for the new Jeff Hafley defense.
Gil Martin - Amarius Mims. Mims doesn’t fit the Packers thresholds for size and his lack of experience makes him less of a Packers type. There should be other players on the board who meet these Packers thresholds and would be a better fit for Gute.
Ken Lass - Amarius Mims. Massive tackle out of Georgia will be tempting but he is a two or three year project. Packers window is open now and they need to use their first round pick on a prospect that is more NFL ready.
Dusty Evely - T'Vondre Sweat. While the idea of an unmovable object on the defensive line is alluring, there are too many red flags for me. One of the main issues seems to be that he is only a large man: explosiveness and technique don't show up with any consistency, and his size seemed to contribute to conditioning issues. That's all without mentioning his recent DWI. Steer clear.
Tim Backes - Ladd McConkey. I don't know that I have a single player this year that I really don't want to see the Packers pick. If you forced me to make a pick, I would say a quarterback or wide receiver, so I guess I'll say Ladd McConkey. He's a wide receiver I'm seeing mocked toward the late first round, which I think would be a reach for him, and not at a position of need.
Rex Sheild - Bucky Irving. I expect the Green Bay Packers to be in the market for a running back in this year’s draft, even though they signed Josh Jacobs and re-signed AJ Dillon, but I hope the running back chosen is not Irving. He tested very poorly, producing a Relative Athletic Score of 2.23, and I prefer slightly bigger backs over Irving’s 5’9”, 192-lb stature.
Mark Oldacres - Trevin Wallace. At least in the first two days of the draft. There has been plenty of buzz connecting Wallace, an uber-athletic linebacker with uber-underwhelming tape, to the Packers, with some mock drafts sending him to Green Bay as early as the second round. Linebacker is an instincts position, and Wallace lacks them. By all means take him on day three as a developmental prospect, but please, not in the top 100.
Joseph Randolph - Tyler Guyton. Guyton is too much of a project for me to be comfortable with in the 1st Round. Despite being a converted TE, he's more susceptible to athletic edge rushers than he should be and too often finds himself washed in the run game against speed-to-power.
Greg Meinholz - Jermaine Burton. Alabama Wide Receiver Jermaine Burton may be a good talent to take in the mid-rounds but he comes with a lot of character questions. After an incident that allegedly showed him strike a female fan after a game vs Tennessee, the whole situation seemed to just get swept under a rug by Nick Saban without consequence. He’s also been called a locker room cancer by some former teammates due to his attitude, and the Packers don’t need that type of guy anywhere near their team.
Jersey Al Bracco - T'Vondre Sweat. I don't care how good he is at what he does, he's only good at ONE thing. Like the Packers, I value players with versatility as it lets you extract maximum value from your draft selections.
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Comments (78)
TKWorldWide
April 25, 2024 at 08:04 am
Good thing I’ve got a very busy day today. Otherwise I’d be walking around all day singing “Waiting All Day for Thursday Night”. Plus, Carrie Underwood would get mad at me because I look so smoke in that outfit I have that looks just like hers.
T7Steve
April 25, 2024 at 08:17 am
Nice legs!!!
LeotisHarris
April 25, 2024 at 08:53 am
Preach, Brother TK! I'm feeling it, too. Next Level Chef followed by Farmer Wants a Wife on Fox, The Shawshank Redemption on AMC. four consecutive episodes of Roseanne on CMT,*and* nonstop Shark Tank on CNBC. I peed a little just typing this!
TKWorldWide
April 25, 2024 at 09:01 am
(From another mother!)
T7Steve
April 25, 2024 at 08:16 am
There's a couple of guys listed twice on the list above. Like I didn't have enough to worry about going into the draft.
Hopefully Gute views these guys in the same light.
mnbadger
April 25, 2024 at 12:31 pm
I'd like to add to Tony Wilson's take " . . . but the core of Christian Watson, Jayden Reed, Dontayvion Wicks and Romeo Doubs is dynamic. There's no need to spend that capital on a receiver."
- Don't forget about Malik Heath! IMO, he's WR 3 or 4 on some teams for all the things he does well but none of the elite.
Huge 18 fan here in MN.
GPG!
Give'm Hell Gutey!
WestCoastPackerBacker
April 25, 2024 at 01:49 pm
They were excited about Grant DuBose as well! Not to mention the productivity of Bo Melton towards the end of the season and into the post season.
Coldworld
April 25, 2024 at 08:20 am
A pretty good list. I would extract Guyton though, despite the fact he’s not my lead choice. There are clear reasons why he remains a project. I’m just not very keen on taking one at OT in the first round this year. If we need an OT early, we need one ready to play. The first round isn’t the place for a gamble pick when there are later options. How ready is Guyton? Perhaps just enough to overcome that.
Similarly, but falling the other way and in favor of exclusion, Wallace could easily be Oren Burks 2. Great athlete but questionable instincts despite being a plus character. He’s not going to help us immediately. He might be the best LB in this draft in 3 years, but instincts are tricky and that is a long shot that we ought not to make until we have more certain options in place.
MooPack
April 25, 2024 at 08:26 am
"I’m just not very keen"
You should try some shaving cream.
Coldworld
April 25, 2024 at 08:32 am
Or maybe a strop if I’m dull?
MooPack
April 25, 2024 at 08:42 am
As long as you avoid the big pile of...
dobber
April 25, 2024 at 08:48 am
SHAVING CREAM!
Be nice and clean...
Shave every day and you'll always look keen!
MooPack
April 25, 2024 at 08:59 am
Dr. Demento had some classic stuff. For those too young to remember, be warned, a song like this will stick in your head all day.
crayzpackfan
April 25, 2024 at 09:46 am
I like Dead Puppies
dobber
April 25, 2024 at 10:02 am
They aren't much fun.
dblbogey
April 25, 2024 at 11:17 am
But they cost little to maintain.
tm_inter
April 25, 2024 at 08:29 am
In 2019 someone put Rashan Gary on the FUBAR list. FUBAR stands for Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition. However, Brian Gutekunst chose Gary 12th in the first round. Just saying.
dobber
April 25, 2024 at 08:38 am
I believe that was Jersey Al, actually. Gary might have been on that list more than once, too.
Bitternotsour
April 25, 2024 at 09:02 am
People get too influenced by the last week of writing prior to the draft. We're at the phase of people just saying shit so they get eyeballs on their sites. The Packers have great scouts, and a lot of cracks at the prizes.
I'll gladly take a trade down at 25 tonight, perhaps a first round pick from '25 and a high second.
LambeauPlain
April 25, 2024 at 09:03 am
I was disappointed with the Gary selection as well.
Shortly after, I read Packer OLB Coach Smith's analysis of Rashan. He convinced me why his selection was sublime. He stated if you watch every play of his college career at Michigan, he didn't just do his job...he did it consistently well. Mostly playing from a 3 point stance, he was tasked most often to hold the edge. Smith said teams often tried to attack his side, but to no avail. Early in games they would just abandon the idea to attack Gary. And Smith said he had zero doubts that Gary would quickly become one of the top pass rushers in the NFL.
He was right. My disappointment was short lived.
WestCoastPackerBacker
April 25, 2024 at 02:07 pm
Yes, at the time I read some stuff about Gary by college coaches and was so miffed at the coverage of the pick by sportswriters that cover the Packers. There was a bunch of false info out there about him "taking plays off" or not having a consistent motor. It was the opposite of what his college coaches said they'd experienced. People didn't like the lack of sacks, but that wasn't his role at Michigan. It was Chase Winovich's role and he had like 2x the sacks Gary had in college. But Winovich only made it 3 years with NE and is on his third NFL team already. Meanwhile Gary had a learning curve on a new position, and fans have such unrealistic expectations of what a first round "should" do, they hated the pick because he had to learn a new position. I'll always love a guy with a high ceiling that needs some development versus a guy who is NFL ready right now, but will not be as impactful over his career.
I will say fans are afraid of bad picks because of the like of Datone Jones and Nick Perry in back to back years. Jones never successfully made the change. And Perry was an impactful player, but was hurt immediately after getting a big contact. Packer fans hate it when players get hurt, but they really hate it when highly paid players get hurt. They really bring on the hate.
jannesbjornson
April 25, 2024 at 02:47 pm
Did you have to include the last paragraph ? LOL. Neal makes the list.
LambeauPlain
April 25, 2024 at 03:24 pm
Ted liked to draft DL and make them stand up and play edge. Capers was a fan of the big elephants playing OLB too. Julius Peppers was the most amazing DE who could stand up and be just as dominating.
Jones, Perry and Neal would probably be ideal linemen in Hafley's 4-3, 4-2 front...but as stand up 3-4 OLBs, no.
One comparison for me is Gary & Peppers. Rashon does have many attributes Julius had. Size, quickness, strength, and consistent ability to make plays. And both are/were productive standing up or rushing from the 3 pt.
I think Gary is going to thrive in this defense.
Untylu1968
April 25, 2024 at 08:49 am
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one! In the end, whoever we pick is now a Packer and will have my full support until he goes and plays for the Jets, Vikings, or any other team. Of course, there's guys I'd prefer over others, but bitching and complaining doesn't change things. GO PACK GO!
WestCoastPackerBacker
April 25, 2024 at 02:11 pm
"Bitching and complaining doesn't change things," is a great lesson overall for the comment board, at least for several on here. I wonder if they are that way in "real" life, away from teh comment section.
jannesbjornson
April 25, 2024 at 08:52 am
There were better options: Brian Burns, Montez Sweat, Christian Wilkins& Dexter Lawrence from the dominant Clemson defense. These guys all started from Day One. Did Za'Darious help bring home the gold? He couldn't hold the edge.
DoubleJ
April 25, 2024 at 09:30 am
With Christian Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence you have to remember that the Packers had Kenny Clark. The requirement for another NT wasn't as big of a need in the 3-4 as getting more OLBs since those players rotate more.
Brian Burns isn't as good as you think he is. He is a speed rusher who is a liability against the run. Tell me would he have been traded for pick 39 and a 2025 R5 and a 2024 R5 pick swap if he was amazing? No he would have gone for an R1 or R2 and R3 or something else along those lines. Montez Sweat is better overall than Burns but still was only worth an R2. FYI Gary has graded out better than either of them this year. IIRC he has graded out better than either of them in 2020 (I think), 2021, 2022, and 2023. In the long run Gary was better than either of the other two for an Edge/DE player.
jannesbjornson
April 25, 2024 at 10:08 am
Then Clark could do his thing as a 3-6 tech with Wilkins pressuring inside next to him,instead of Lowry, or Lawrence destroying inside blocking schemes, There is no law against running 4-3 looks. These guys are all NFL all-stars with the statistics to support their rankings, and the 2019 draft was exceptional. The edge people mentioned were productive from the beginning and returned a solid investment. Gary didn't get going until year three, but he was held back by not having him on the field, hand in the turf, playing to his strengths. He paid Gary beaucoup bucks to hang around while other teams garnered draft picks and CAP. Gary still overruns the edge contain, so a 4-3 front should keep him in his contain responsibility. Time will telll.
DoubleJ
April 25, 2024 at 10:27 am
By the end of 2020 Gary was the best rusher on the Packers. In 2021 he was their best Edge player period. Heck in 2021 Gary was rated a top 5 Edge player by PFF. Sweat and Burns had quick payoff but they maxed out quickly. I can guarantee you that if Gute traded Gary he would get a least a mid R1 for him this year. You have to get out of your mind that your picks are for that same year. Ideally you want to get some production from those picks in their rookie seasons but you are drafting for where they will be in Y2 and Y3 NOT Y1. By end of Y2 Gary was better than Sweat and Burns, therefore his pick made sense. Sure you can say that going DT would have been useful. Edge though is the more premium of the positions though. You are still just bitter that your guy wasn't drafted.
jannesbjornson
April 25, 2024 at 02:25 pm
I do not detect a downward trend, or a burn out factor as the Bears jumped to trade for Sweat; the Giants just paid Burns & Re-signed Lawrence; Wilkens went to the Raiders on a big contract after Gruden blew the one pick on his team mate Ferrell:
BrianBurns 46 sacks/80 games played 2023 8.0 /16
Montez Sweat 41.5 sacks/76 games played 2023 12.5/17
Christian Wilkins 20 sacks/81 games played 2023 9.0/17 [ 61 pressures].
Dexter Lawrence 21 sacks/80 games played 2023 4.5/17 [ 65 pressures].
Gary 31.5 sacks/73 games played 2023 9.0/17
Preston Smith 2023 8.0/17
Kenny Clark 2023 7.5/17 [66 pressures]
Opportunity Costs of paying ZaDarious Smith and selecting Savage in 2019. Savage didn't show up vs the 49rs in the Playoffs with the Packers holding the Lead in the 4th Quarter. The Fans cannot Blame Love, as they did with Rodgers, for the final minutes meltdown. Momentum was Given Away.
DoubleJ
April 25, 2024 at 04:58 pm
Sacks are not the only measurement of production. Remember Kyler Fackrell had 10.5 sacks in 2018 but no one was afraid of him as a pass rusher.
Leatherhead
April 25, 2024 at 06:22 pm
Love made a very bad decision and threw an unnecessary interception. There was time on the clock, it wasn't 4th down. I can accept that he did that in his first close playoff game. Not when you've won an MVP already.
jannesbjornson
April 25, 2024 at 07:43 pm
A.Jones TWO critical fumbles, one leading to a spotting of the ball on their 6 yard line and Tampa scored easily. This just after King fell asleep at the wheel with 7 seconds remaining in the first half and Scotty Miller scored. !4 points in less than a minute and a half. Game, Set Match for most teams, but The Guru is to blame. Once again, the HC didn't know how to call a timeout and may have confused the DC on the required defense to protect the endzone. In the same realm as the Bostic debacle, Seattle scoring on the fake punt, etc....the Fans see what they want to see. Savage and Owens whiffed on tackles like guys looking to preserve themselves for free agency.
WestCoastPackerBacker
April 25, 2024 at 02:21 pm
This was a successful draft pick for GB and you use hindsight to say there were better options? Right.
jannesbjornson
April 25, 2024 at 02:42 pm
No, read the CHTV archives for the 2019 draft and pre-draft fan commentary. There is no doubt, Nick Bosa and Josh Allen were the cream of the crop, but the other players had voluminous support from the draft addicts.
Not to rub salt in a wound, but T.J. Watt led the League with 19.0 Sacks/17 games played in 2023. Some of the more heralded DTs were Q. Williams 33 sacks/73 games and Jeffery Simmons (injuries) 26.5/68 games. Clelin Ferrell 13.5/75 would be considered the draft bust given his position taken. Gary was projected to go to the Giants, but they snagged Jones. Gutedkunst was probably targeting him, as per Pro Day and probably adjusted the board when New York decided to stay with a college QB. Gary should work best in the 4-3/4-2 sets. I really didn't mind the Gary selection, but was screaming for Sweat to follow, not trading Draft Capital for a slot CB.
PackEyedOptimist
April 25, 2024 at 01:26 pm
Gary was on MY Do Not Draft list, as was Kevin King, as was Luke Musgrave.
I picked Brian Burns over Gary, and Burns has been just as good.
I hated the trade down that after a trade up got Jaire, but I picked Derwin James, and he’s been just as good.
I picked TJ Watt, but did it with trepidation because of his multiple injuries.
I’ve had lots of picks turn out better than the Packers’ but they beat me just as often.
It’s just fun for me—when the Packers make their pick, I’m on board; they always know way more than I do!
golfpacker1
April 25, 2024 at 08:54 am
I agree with every player on this list mainly because of the player but also because for example we have a strong WR room already. A lot of the Top CBs are skinny this year. At this point Walter Rouse is probably better than Guyton. Mimms will probably have a good year but he reminds me too much of Mechi Becton.
The LB decision in this draft is mega important, we have to get it right. Wallace is a 4th round pick, even in a weak year for LBs. I like Gray the best as he has the most production by far over the last 3 years, and he has improved every year.
I do really like Bucky Irving but I am not getting hung up on him because we have a lot of good RB to chose from in the 3rd round this year. Isaac Guerendo or Marshawn Lloyd.
DoubleJ
April 25, 2024 at 09:33 am
Throw in Jaylen Wright for me as another R3/4 RB possibility. He is similar to Kamara but ran a better 40. He had all of 137 rushing attempts last year and still cracked 1000 yards for the season. That is absolutely insane production.
LambeauPlain
April 25, 2024 at 09:13 am
Good to see the hyped up Giant Mims on the "DO NOT DRAFT" list.
I agree. He is not just a 2-3 year project, he is unlikely to pass Caleb the Huge, Tenuta the Tall, or Telfort the Tank on the depth chart. Shoot, Dillard may even be ahead of him.
8 starts at Georgia after being a 5 star HS recruit...and then within a season riddled with injuries...and only played RT? Hard, diamond pass.
I hope the bares, Ugly Purple or Lion Kittens draft him.
DoubleJ
April 25, 2024 at 09:34 am
Let SF draft him.
jannesbjornson
April 25, 2024 at 02:51 pm
They want Jordan Morgan, or Sua.
dobber
April 25, 2024 at 10:44 am
"I hope the bares, Ugly Purple or Lion Kittens draft him."
I think there's enough there that I want him in the AFC.
LambeauPlain
April 25, 2024 at 11:05 am
Perhaps there is something there to coach up but after 3 years in one of the best football programs in college football and he finally cracks the starting line up for 8 games in an injury riddled Junior season. So he declared for the draft because he's really large and athletic. Someone will bite and make the Giant Kid a millionaire.
If he comes to the Packers they will spend 2-3 years trying to get him ready to play in the NFL...and if he does show he belongs on a roster, he will cash in again, on potential, in free agency.
Packers need a first rounder who can contribute now and consistently in the years ahead.
jannesbjornson
April 25, 2024 at 02:56 pm
MAybe he already pulled in 7 figures under the table, or the NIL scheme?
Leatherhead
April 25, 2024 at 09:18 am
A pretty good list. Better than some of the lists we've had in the past
If McKinstry is on the board at #25, he'll be our guy.
LambeauPlain
April 25, 2024 at 09:25 am
Not if DeJean is there.
Leatherhead
April 25, 2024 at 11:25 am
I'd bet a cold PBR that they have McKinstry ahead of DeJean.
Look, everything that comes out of their mouths leading up to the draft is a lie, or should be. Take a minute and look at all the nice things they've publicly stated about DeJean. Compare that with McKinstry.
They want McKinstry, and that's why they're being so generous in their praise of DeJean.
Bitternotsour
April 25, 2024 at 11:36 am
Stop it. You're shining light where it shouldn't be.
dobber
April 25, 2024 at 01:19 pm
I think Dejean is suffering from the same kind of issue with the general public that Christian McCaffrey did in the lead-up to the draft: is he a WR? Is he a RB? Does he really have a position? In the end, he was just a good football player and Carolina took him early.
I think the same thing happens with Dejean...people are too hung up about what position he would play and lose sight of the fact that he's a really good football player with great intangibles. I think a GM will pounce on him before 20. I'd love it if he were on the board at 25, and I wouldn't bat an eye if Gute moved up a spot or two to make sure he got him.
jannesbjornson
April 25, 2024 at 03:02 pm
If the viqueens do not combine their one picks to bag the "franchise"QB, they could use the #23 on DeJean as the next Harrison Smith.
Turophile
April 25, 2024 at 09:40 am
The best ability is availability.
If you had a history of injury in college expect it to continue in the NFL. Buyer beware. One-off injuries i am much less worried about.
A few prospects have maturity issues - stay well clear of these, like across the street clear. Ask SF how Reuben Foster (LB round 1, 2017) worked out.
I don't like guys that are too big, height or weight (Latham, Sweat, Alt), or too light, like Wiggins.
DoubleJ
April 25, 2024 at 09:50 am
"If you had a history of injury in college expect it to continue in the NFL. Buyer beware."
This is even more of a red flag for the big guys on the OL/DL. The odds of Mims kicking the injury bug at his size is not good.
dobber
April 25, 2024 at 10:06 am
Was it Wolf or Thompson who said, "if you draft a guy who's hurt, they tend to stay hurt." Or something to that extent.
LambeauPlain
April 25, 2024 at 11:10 am
Mr. Harrell, Mr. King...meet Mr. Mims.
Mr. Watson, ignore them all. You were not oft injured in college. You will be cured of that biting bug now. Say it! SAY IT!
WestCoastPackerBacker
April 25, 2024 at 02:24 pm
I think I'd need to see data on this Turo. I'm not sure this translates to actuality.
Turophile
April 25, 2024 at 03:11 pm
By all means check it out yourself.
dobber
April 25, 2024 at 09:53 am
My poorly-informed day 1-2 picks for the Packers.
25--Edgerrin Cooper, LB, TAMU. Will start immediately. I think Cooper Dejean is gone (otherwise I think the Packers run the Dejean pick to the podium) and while I'd like to choose an OT here to bolster the OL, I don't think there will be a compelling one as BPA. I think he'll be a difference-maker.
41--Jordan Morgan, OT, AZ. Everything the Packers love in OL. I think he's an obvious choice if they don't go OL in round 1.
58--Javon Bullard, S, UGA. Plug and play S. Can fill more than one role in Hafley's D, and Gute loves interchangeability at S.
88--Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame. Prototypical long, athletic LT. Young and moldable, but more of an OT only than a guy who is going to project inside-outside.
91--Elijah Jones, CB, BC. Ballhawking CB can play press or zone. Fast enough, but a little skinny and a little older. Hafley gets one of his guys.
Prediction 1: I will be asleep long before the Packers make their first pick of the day.
Prediction 2: day 3 will feature a speed back, a WR, and two more OL...expect at least one more WILL type LB.
Prediction 3: I'm always wrong.
RCPackerFan
April 25, 2024 at 10:17 am
I do think they are going to try and get Jones. I think Hafley will want him on his team. But if they get a CB before him, I don't know if they will do that.
Prediction 2 - I agree with your thoughts. That they will take a speed RB, a WR, and 2 OL.
I think by the end of the draft they will have 3 OL added.
dobber
April 25, 2024 at 10:35 am
"I think by the end of the draft they will have 3 OL added."
I'm guessing 4.
...and a long-snapper. ;)
RCPackerFan
April 25, 2024 at 11:01 am
Great call on a long snapper. This is a bigger need that isn't talked about enough.
When people talked about needing to upgrade over Carlson, I don't think they have talked enough about the LS spot. There were way to many bad snaps last year which you could see threw the timing off many times on kicks.
LambeauPlain
April 25, 2024 at 11:13 am
You are wrong about prediction 3. :-))
dobber
April 25, 2024 at 01:10 pm
Winner!
RCPackerFan
April 25, 2024 at 10:06 am
For tonight I'm not as worried about specific players, but more about where we are picking. I don't want them to trade up. That is unless someone that was projected to be a top 10 pick starts falling. But to me the cost to move up is too expensive in the first round.
They have 5 picks in the top 100. I would love to keep all 5 if possible. And maybe even add to it. Either way 5 top 100 players could put our team over the top.
Turophile
April 25, 2024 at 03:13 pm
Small trade-ups are fine (like from 25 to say, 19-24). Staying put can be fine, depends on who looks like being available. Trading down is fine, especially if it nets more picks in the 55 to 75 range. It's all situational, as these things so often are.
Heck, I'm even ok with trading a this years pick for one next year because when that happens, if the trade value was the other teams 2nd round pick, for example, you'd be asking for a first rounder if that pick was deferred to next year. The Packers have plenty of picks and can live with that, even though the fanbase won't like it. As for trading future PACKERS picks for something this year, I don't like that at all.
WD
April 25, 2024 at 10:12 am
There should absolutely be no absolute no-draft-list. It all depends what round they are drafting in. Moreover, there is no way Guyton or Chop Robinson get out of the second round if even the first. That said we need in order ILB, Safety and OL (Rd.s one and two to address) In round three ( first pick) preferably one of the top two or three RB's. I like Benson or Wright. After those needs are met look for those with the most potential; to be a playmaker. If Chop Robinson was there late in the third he would be a steal. That would be a great start in the first two days. PS if Edgerin Cooper is gone at 41 don't cry just pick Payton Wilson. He would be a blessing in disguise. I'm ready! A quick prayer to St Vincent for a successful draft. Beer drinking begins at 1800!
gsd3
April 25, 2024 at 10:31 am
Home run! Agree 100%
blondy45
April 25, 2024 at 11:07 am
Please, no trade up in round 1. Cooper DeJean or Kool Aid McKinstry for me. If either is not there, trade back. In rounds 2-3, we need an OLB, Safety, Corner back, O-line and a Rb. In Gute I trust will do his magic when the board comes to him. Move around yes, just not Up in the first round. I have spent way too much time on the 2024 Draft this year. Again, in Gute I trust. Go Pack Go.
splitpea1
April 25, 2024 at 11:08 am
Some good picks to avoid here...I'm in agreement (rationale included) with Mims , Robinson, and Sweat. I don't think we're in danger of picking the last two, but Mims is not out of the realm of possibility; even if he turns out to be a great player later on, I don't think it's a smart business decision with so little experience at such an important position. I'm also in favor of selecting the more versatile player that can help anywhere if needed.
No way I'm making my own suggestion because I've been wrong a couple of times before-- the latest being Musgrave last year.
LambeauPlain
April 25, 2024 at 11:20 am
Mims has very little experience at the important RT position. Would he be solid swap for Tom there? No. 100% no.
And Mims has ZERO experience on the blind side. Would he give Walker a strong rookie challenge? No.
He's a two trick pony.
1. He's a gigantic athlete who struggled to get on the field.
2. He started 8 games at RT surrounded by some of the best O players in college football.
I question his motivation for the job.
Alberta_Packer
April 25, 2024 at 12:08 pm
Actually Mims disclosed that he played a lot of LT in practice and that he would be comfortable playing that side - if asked. However he was so dominant at RT -that request was never made.
PackEyedOptimist
April 25, 2024 at 01:49 pm
I also said, here on CHTV last year before the draft, that I did NOT want Luke Musgrave “because he falls down every time he catches the ball.” That’s why it was hilarious to me when LaFleur made that same comment in the locker room!😃
Alberta_Packer
April 25, 2024 at 11:54 am
No challenges from me on the list except:
Tyler Guyton. I don't regard him primarily as a developmental project. He is perfectly capable of being a swing Tackle in his rookie year
Of further note:
Darius Robinson - I can see a pass here - perhaps opting for a comparable Mason Smith - a round or two later.
Trevin Wallace - never enamored with him. I would select later round LBs - Jordan Magee and hybrid ILB - S Jamal Hill (Oregon) before Wallace.
Additions to the list:
Tyler Nubin and Kam Kinchens - certainly on Days 1 + 2.. May re-consider on Day 3.
dobber
April 25, 2024 at 01:13 pm
I have a feeling both Nubin and Kinchens will be better players than their 40 times indicate. Definitely not day 1 guys for me, but I think there's day 2 value on both.
golfpacker1
April 25, 2024 at 01:27 pm
Dobber, there never was a Day 1 Safety in this class. #58 would be a great spot for a Top 5 Safety.
# 25 or trade back-pick OL or CB
#41-Got to be a LB as we are out of time and options
#58-Safety
3 BIg holes filled.
pantz_bURp
April 25, 2024 at 12:01 pm
Please, I doubt anyone's gas is as good as mine.
*avoid drinking the Kool-Aid*
Levi's 505 32"/32" has spoken
stockholder
April 25, 2024 at 12:09 pm
Andrew Phillips - CB - Way over-Rated.
jimtalkbox
April 25, 2024 at 01:37 pm
No Offensive Tackles with arms shorter than 34". (Unless you fully intend to stick them at Guard)
Turophile
April 25, 2024 at 03:21 pm
This matters far less if the offensive tackle is really good at swiping the other guys hands away.