This team has 2 Josh J players.

Josh Jackson
Josh Jones

I think Josh Jackson would be an excellent safety.

So is Matthews. Zero tackles yesterday, only 2 the week before.

Well, he's been playing hurt. He's always hurt. I think we can cut him after the year without much damage in dead money. I hope that's correct, because he's just a slug.

He isn't running on all cylinders. But he IMO took a step in the right direction.

I think a lot of it has been the lack of practice time. He hasn't had the time to build a rapport with Graham, MVS, St Brown, Moore. Hence why we have seen some frustration on the field.

I thought his throws looked better. He was getting it out fast, on time and had some zip on his throws.

They were opposite collarbones.

I would like to think that #12 isn't dogging it to get MM fired. That wouldn't bode well for the next HC and the prospects of things getting better with time.

I believe the first break was on the left side. Last season was to the right side. The break on the right side did affect his throwing last season. When he came back against Carolina, his throws seemed to be short. Several passes were under thrown.

Everyone seems to believe he’s a little off this season. His arm strength may be affected by the collarbone injury and/or the knee injury is still hampering him. I was at the Detroit game and he’s not at full speed. Hopefully, the “mini-bye” after Seattle helps him and the rest of the team.

he may not be firing on all cylinders, but he's still got 17 tds vs 1 int. so he isn't hurting the team. it's his accuracy that "seems" to be a little off because of the uncharacteristically low completion percentage. but i truly believe that at least part of the reason for the incomplete passes is that he has several new receivers who don't always seem to be on the same page as rodgers. mvs is starting to emerge as a reliable #2 receiver, which is great news since cobb has been completely useless and moore was apparently a waste of a draft pick.

My bad I thought it was the same side. I just wanted to find out what you esteemed Cheesehead's think has happened to #12!

You consider a 14 point loss to the Pats a close loss?

"While he still isn't great, he at least isn't completely horrible anymore."

This sounds vaguely similar to what my wife said when I asked her to marry me...

It was a correct call. You can bitch all you want about wussy football but that call is going to be made 100% of the time in the 2018 NFL. If this would be 2010 and Heinz Ward would've made that block against a Packer CB we'd all be calling him a dirty player and want him suspended for life.

I understand that at this point they're probably going to call that every time, but I disagree with the call. Like you said, it was from the front, and the defender was an active part of the play. No reason that should be a foul. Sometimes when you play a collision sport, big hits happen.

"Nice to have a win but it won't mean anything unless we beat the Seahawks."

They're close to being in that mode the rest of the way, just insert name of next opponent...

My biggest complaint from yesterday is their continued rotation of the RB's.

I don't get/like the give Jones the series give, Williams the other series... Now they didn't do that much, but yesterday in the 2nd quarter they gave Williams a whole series and they did nothing on offense.
I want to see a rotation of ever 4-5-6 plays Jones comes out and Williams comes in for 2-3 plays. So basically Jones gets 5 plays to Williams 2-3. They rotate WR's, TE's regularly. Why can't they do that with RB's?

Is it possible to love the win and still want the head coach gone at the end of the year, because that's where I am.

Maybe, just maybe, this team is starting to figure some things out. Maybe it was because they were playing at home against the Dolphins.

The defense looked good yesterday even with injuries during the game. They were given a short field on at least three occasions and they held the Fish to FGs. Capers D would have folded on some of those
occasions. Tramon had a fumble on the punt return but he looked solid at safety. Raven Green as well. Breeland and Tony Brown contributed also. Better players.

Time to move CM3 inside with Martinez and give the OLB snaps to Fackrell and Gilbert.

As for the offense; Aaron Jones, Adams and MVS enough said.

Special teams, fire Zook and move on already.

Can we take this show on the road and win in Seattle on a short week? Tough challenge. Unnecessary TNF.
I hate TNF, it waters down the quality of play and risks injuries but off we go. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

Better game for the Pack. Aaron Jones makes the offense look so much different. I thought Jones, Greene and Brown played well. Martinez is a sure tackler. Now.... some issues:

On the one third and two or fourth and two where they kept Graham in to block the defensive end. What gives? If Graham would have run a flat route, first down. Instead, hand over the ball on downs.

Josh Jackson keep messing us. Offside on a field goal, illegal contact and as noted a few bad plays. He is gonna hurt the Pack again.

Special teams. Fumble, holding penalty that negated a nice return. Block punt. What can you say? They stunk, even with the fake punt. What can be done? Something has too.

Why is MM and the coaches holding some of these young players back? It is now nine games into the season and MM keeps platooning Jones and Williams????? Like he knows something different?

Without Jones, MVS and some of these other young players, the Pack won't make the playoffs. Eliminate the cerebral plays for the wideouts. Use simpler patterns and plays Use all your weapons and players. Aaron Rodgers, plan on completing 5 or 6 checkdowns a game to backs. That's what Favre did and it keeps the third downs much more manageable. All it takes is to have one or two more series be scoring.

This is the game that will tell if MM can evolve and run the ball to help 12 get better rhythm and get that pass game hitting on cylinders!!!

Anyone see where Jordy Nelson is expected to announce his retirement from the NFL today. Packers did it seems trade him away at the right time!

Good win, now two more tough road games. The seasons on the line here. Also, Perry hurt yet again. I can’t see him back next year. Some players are either injury prone or just unlucky. Kevin King also comes to mind. You have to be available.

Obviously, I'm happy for the win, because...

A) It's a win, dammit, and
B) You can't "stack success" (as MM likes to say) without having success to start with.

But...

The 'Phins played without 4 of 5 O-line starters, featured a 35 year old running back, and trotted out Brockenstein as their starting QB. If we lost 80% of our O-line and had our backup QB in the game, we'd probably use that as an excuse for losing to the Arizona Cardinals. And we'd probably consider ourselves fortunate if we surrendered "only" six sacks. The Packers darn well better win the game at home under those circumstances.

Also, I'm fully on board with the idea that Aaron Jones is "the guy" at RB and that we need to ride him a little more going forward. But let's be honest... some of those holes were good enough that BJ Raji could have scored a first down at a minimum and maybe more.

Agreed that ST are a big ol' turd right now. Also agreed that ARod still isn't ARod. And he's got to own up to it. Some throws are clearly off, and you simply can't convince me that EVERY TIME there is some sort of miscommunication it is ALWAYS the other guy's fault and never ARod's. Having said that, there's little doubt that the Packers have been hurt by the fact that Cobb and Allison have been non-factors all year (even when they are on the field), and probably will continue to be.

I didn't like the roughing call on ESB, but he's gotta know that he will get flagged for that every time in today's NFL. He could have accomplished the same result if he had just shoved the guy to the ground without obliterating him. Like I said... I don't like it, but it's the reality.

Anyhow, the win is a start... I hope. Now let's see if we can knock off Seattle on the road after a short week. I'll be a little more pumped if and when that happens.

thumbs up for the team a big thumbs up for DC

True.... it was a really strong wave though. And probably as a result that it was the only convincing win of the year....

1 - While it seems Gute made the right call with Jordy, it's inexcusable that Graham is averaging 2/30 since the buy week.

2 - The team doesn't need Cobb, or Perry, or Matthews. That's a lot of money that Gute can reallocate next year. Can't wait to see what he does with it.

3 - why isn't jahri evans on this team?

4 - i would love to see data on the average starting position from a kickoff. It can't be materially better than the 25 yard line, and Id take the under on that bet. So for the 1/100 chance that a kickoff turns into a TD, GB is going to risk fumbling on every return. I don't know why every kickoff isn't allowed to be a touchback. Risk/reward isn't there

Yes, Miami was a very undermanned team that had no business being down at only 14-9 at halftime. Once again Rodgers had an unimpressive first half with only one multi play drive for a TD, when you consider Jones ran most of the field before the other TD in the first half. Rodgers still missing too many receivers and throwing the ball out of bounds. I saw receivers open he just wasn’t throwing to against Miami and instead took a sack or threw the ball out of bounds. He’s so afraid of picks he does not throw into tight windows like he previously did. Not sure why. Someone said Rodgers has 17 TDs and only 1 pick so he’s not hurting the team. I disagree, as anytime he’s throwing the ball out of bounds or taking a sack on third downs he’s giving the ball back to the opponent and having one less scoring opportunity. He should be more aggressive throwing to receivers who have a step on their defenders to make plays on the ball a lot more often. Boasting about career low interception rates is meaningless if you are only going to the SB once in 12 years and continually losing to the playoff caliber teams...every single year.

Love the word "truity" That's genius

Packers HAVE to win the rest of their games. They have screwed around losinf ALL 4 away games!!

Stop throwing the ball away...39+ throw aways Aaron....My lord t will be 80 by the end of the year. That right there is easily giving 4 losses at 20 throws per game just throwing the ball away.

Make something happen !!