Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 2730 - The Aftermath - The Packers Must Improve Their Coaching Staff!
On today's show, join Justis Mosqueda & Andy Herman as they recap the Packers' 2025 season, the brutal loss to the Bears, and where Green Bay goes from here. Plus, a look at why GB's coaching staff needs to get better. Don't miss it!
By AndyHerman
On today's show, join Justis Mosqueda & Andy Herman as they recap the Packers' 2025 season, the brutal loss to the Bears, and where Green Bay goes from here. Plus, a look at why GB's coaching staff needs to get better. Don't miss it!
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Comments (13)
Houndog
January 15, 2026 at 07:29 am
If what Matt LaFleur is fighting for is a larger assistant coach budget in his negotiations with Policy, then he should fight until hell freezes over, and I commend him for it! Policy, of all people should know this himself, and his father would confirm it for him if he needs advice.
It will take something more to lure me back into LaFleur's corner, if ever, but if Justis and Andy are right and he's been forced to work with a subpar staff, he should have gotten at least a fair shot long ago.
Coldworld
January 15, 2026 at 07:49 am
If he’s let it go this long without really fighting for that, then he’s squandered his leverage rather like he squanders leads.
At this point his positioning sucks and not only because of how this season went. Saying it’s now on his coaches after 7 years of apparent acquiescence is hard to credit as more than a lame excuse, particularly with his record of holding on to coaches too long.
Any real change requires a replacement to insist on his people and giving them what it takes. The Packers could sidestep that by picking another LaFleur—a guy who knows he’s on the slide where he is and that he may wait years if he doesn’t take it on team terms and/or doesn’t have the personal pull to bring people in he wants.
If the team does go the route of a pliable cheap option again, absent a huge amount of luck, it will get what it deserves, just as it did last time and things will go down hill until it’s bad enough that the wider leadership is torn down in crisis.
Houndog
January 15, 2026 at 08:44 am
I don't argue with that at all, Coldworld, but we don't know what's going on behind the scenes, and I don't, won't, and am not making excuses for LaFleur!
I do however, agree with Justis and Andy that 'outside influence' would be an asset, and one that every coach, not just LaFleur should be afforded, especially as a first time head coach as Lafleur was when he was hired.
Nobody in that position goes into it thinking 'I can't do this without outside help', at least they'd better not! ? But then, his loyalty to assistants has cost him too.
But, as I see it, if true, it does give LaFleur a legitimate bitch, and dependent upon what the present hold up or sticking point is, he could also legitimately point a finger or two at Gutey, who's drafts haven't always been the greatest, particularly his 1st rounders. We may never know the 'sticking point'!
Hell, if I had my way, nah, the thumbs down would incinerate the website!
I've been a Packer fan forever, and have never heard this tightwad stuff before, and I'm not buying 'the Packers' don't have the money' bullshit!
***EDIT*** If Harlan or Wolf was still here, this would be OVER! (or would have never happened)
SicSemperTyrannis
January 16, 2026 at 10:36 am
You're describing the Packers leaving GB. The Milwaukee Mavens?
SicSemperTyrannis
January 16, 2026 at 10:35 am
I'm doing my best "detached observer" impression, and failing. I'd like to not care that this once glorious sports institution is flailing about due to commercialism from the top down, including the growing likelihood that rigging results for the benefit of the house making money on bets is as simple as refs favoring teams with the larger market, and they don't even need to do that very often. Nobody else needs to be in on it. Neither do they need to wield anything close to complete control over every game.
I'd much rather believe that it's as simple as not having full time refs means how good can they be, and it's still very difficult to get everything right.
I'm trying not to care who the HC is, or any of the coordinators. I'm pretty much over the RB ST thing for 2026, if only to avoid paying him for his last year while also paying somebody else to do the job, with a FO philosophy of neglecting that phase of the game anyway.
Not deciding about MLF yet is as bad as MLF not having the offensive game plan in place on the Monday morning after #85 went down; some things are foreseeable and you just HAVE TO prepare for them. And don't tell me you "want to keep the HC" if you aren't ready to commit to market value and a length of contract that has any chance of being appealing. (I'm sorry, I don't mean to be personally accusatory, this is supposed to be directed towards the FO rather than anyone here. Whether that's solely Ed Policy or who else might be involved)
We've known GB is cheap with coaches for a long time, but we never knew to what extent. And honestly, we still don't. All we can do is hope they manage the organization in a fiscally responsible manner, and it seems beyond obvious that playing to WIN and bringing the title to Titletown would be more lucrative than being mired in mediocrity.
I guess that's a long way of saying I agree with you, wholeheartedly!
Coldworld
January 15, 2026 at 08:51 am
Who controls coaching salary and budget? That’s a critical question. it is definitely got nothing to do with Gute. I’m pretty sure it’s not LaFleur. I believe it is Russ Ball.
Russ Ball is the guy whose objections led to losing Rizzi. He’s an accountant who wanted to be GM and actually took control over the majority of TTs function except coaching oversight (LaFleur) and talent evaluation/ non-financial aspects of recruitment (Gute).
Before the reorganization, Capers and McCarthy at least were very competitively paid. Is this how Ball is justifying his co-equal role with the coach and roster builder? From experience (though I don’t know here), it seems highly likely.
If that indeed is the case, it’s another disasterous mistake by Murphy (so far retained by Policy) and it has to stop. Absolutely. Our cap management isn’t so remarkable or complex in comparison with the league that Ball is indispensable. If his “value” is so hard to prove that he needs to be restricting coaching quality, remove him. Now!
On a draft and develop team, as you point out, that’s obviously self-defeating. No power structure that facilitates this kind of counter productive initiative to fly is functioning effectively in line with organizational goals, or at least ones that could be considered acceptable. If I am correct in this, it makes the return to the pre-Murphy structure even more vital and urgent for the health of the franchise.
If I’m wrong and it’s simply LaFleur being weak, then there is absolutely no justification for keeping him whatever one thinks of his talents. Even I don’t think that’s likely, but if it’s not Gute and it’s not LaFleur then it has to be Ball and a direct consequence of his promotion and excess influence thanks to Murphy.
That, if true, should be ended immediately and permanently. That Policy has not already suggests Policy too may very well be showing he is not up to the job. This off season may well have begun even more depressingly than the football season ended. That has taken some doing.
Houndog
January 15, 2026 at 09:37 am
I moved to CA in '85 and live near Santa Cruz, about 75 miles from SF and 40 miles from the 49ers facilities.
I am not a fan, rarely watch their games, but can't help be force-fed 49er news, and they are 'an institution' here as the Packers are back home. I was here when Policy's father built that team and again, cant help but follow their accomplishments and failures. They had a few years, but are again a very well run organization.
Other than the concerns about Ball, Coldworld, your last sentence is my biggest fear as at present it appears that there's no 'Like Father, Like son' in this equation, and that maybe Policy is not what we were, and are hoping for. I was expecting decisiveness and a well thought out path!
It's time to "Shit, or get off the Pot", this is a phucking circus!
If you believe in LaFleur, pay him, and give him what he needs, to hell with Russ Ball!
If you don't believe in him, send him down the road!
Rebelgb
January 15, 2026 at 09:49 am
Agreed. Policy should have been prepared for this outcome. Further his so far decision to keep the current leadership structure tells me he is either power hungry and wants to keep the power, or hes a coward and doesnt want to risk tipping the boat.
Either way its not a good look for a new President.
Houndog
January 15, 2026 at 09:58 am
Thanks
I just edited that by adding 2 lines, let me know what you think.
SicSemperTyrannis
January 16, 2026 at 10:43 am
Even without having full disclosure of the details you're getting at here, the simple fact that Ed Policy couldn't take decisive action at this critical juncture broadcasts as clearly as can be that he's not up to the job. Tonight will end 6 days, when 18 teams already have a week head start on jockeying for position. I'm not saying it's impossible to salvage the situation and have a good upcoming season, but the chances to be the best possible go down by the minute. Regardless of other teams signing anyone yet or not, they're making progress towards their goals while we're stuck in the mud.
packerbackerjim
January 15, 2026 at 10:03 am
I was puzzled as to why draft picks, particularly #1s, never seemed to reach their full potential. I blamed the failure to develop players on the staff but never realized the Packers had some of the least expensive and inexperienced position coaches in charge of development. Going to a baseball comparison, the TB Rays had to have a great scouting and player development when they were financially handicapped which allowed them to compete. If you spend to the max and want a Championship you need all three.
CheeseEdWest2
January 15, 2026 at 01:46 pm
Y'all have offered some astute peeks behind the curtain.
Strat
January 15, 2026 at 07:45 pm
The comments here are as interesting as the video.