Pack-A-Day Podcast - Episode 2262 - Which NFC North Team Will Make the Super Bowl?!

On today's show, Andy is joined once again by Fox Sports' Carmen Vitali to break down the NFC North and discuss Andy's bold take that the winner of the NFC Championship will come out of the NFC North. Check it out!

On today's show, Andy is joined once again by Fox Sports' Carmen Vitali to break down the NFC North and discuss Andy's bold take that the winner of the NFC Championship will come out of the NFC North. Check it out!

 
 

 

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NFLfan's picture

October 04, 2024 at 09:11 am

I do think Flores let off the gas in the second half, though not completely. He likely didn't wish to put his players through unnecessary effort. Likely mostly prevention and containment.
Re: the Packer Defense, I used to put most of the blame on Barry but I now see that many of the personnel are problematic.
I don't have faith the D-line will improve w/much consistency, the cornerback room does not have enough of the proper personnel, Walker is likely a failed player, LVN is also not progressing. I think Carmen is right-the Packers Defense is relying on 'takeaways.' In order to win the division, the D needs a much stronger D-line (@ least). We have several highly paid players in that line-up who are not competitive in today's NFL (for whatever reason-effort, talent, fundamentals). Brian Flores will easily repeat his approach in the next meet-up.
Packers have not put together a competitive D in years though it is full of first-round picks?? That needs to be looked at objectively.
Until they get real about the Defense,they will not emerge from this Division unless Minnie sustains tremendous injuries. If they do emerge, they won't do well against more balanced teams.

Bright spots: McKinney, Bullard, Cooper (?), Wyatt.

BTW: The Aaron Rodgers-'Hackett Offense is also at risk for not scheming appropriately for Flores's D. Aaron may obtain Davante but
the play-calling is just sub-standard

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Coldworld's picture

October 04, 2024 at 10:06 am

Williams. On O, E Wilson, Kraft and Reed.

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NFLfan's picture

October 04, 2024 at 10:08 am

I was referring to the D. Yes, I forgot Williams.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 04, 2024 at 10:40 am

""Packers have not put together a competitive D in years though it is full of first-round picks??"""

Scoring defense over the last 3 years was better than NFL average, so I think that qualifies as competitive. As does holding the 49ers offense without a TD in the playoffs in 2021. As does going into Dallas last year and crushing the league's #1 offense. We've had competitive defenses on the field.

Ancient history. In 2024, none of our starters played in the preseason, and the trip to Brazil was what you'd expect....some sloppy play. Two good defensive performances against Indy and Tennessee . The Minnesota loss will be forever remembered for that first quarter, and not for the three solid quarters of defense after that.

OF COURSE we're counting on turnovers. They explicitly stated, multiple times, during the offseason, they wanted more takeaways. They jettisoned guys like Savage and Owens and Ford, etc, and brought in guys like McKinney and Bullard.

It's only 4 games, and by quite a few measures, this is a low-average defense in quite a few ways, but it has been exceptional in getting takeaways. It's ranked 30th in TD passes, and that's the other side of the coin that people warned about. You make big plays, you give up big plays. Double-edged sword. The organization CHOSE this. This is the desired direction, and we're getting the expected/hoped for result. We're leading the league in takeaways. That's the plan, and the plan is working the way they wanted it to.

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October 04, 2024 at 10:59 am

I thought the PFF grades were weird last week I listened to Andy the other day and he went through his grades in a pack-a-day podcast. Here are Andy's grades in parenthesis and PFF'S:

[+0.65] 1. RT Zach Tom: 89.0
[+1.35] 2. WR Jayden Reed: 75.7
[+0.70] 3. LT Rasheed Walker: 74.0
[-1.15] 4. RB Emanuel Wilson: 71.5
[+0.55] 5. QB Jordan Love: 68.8

[UKN?] 1. TE Luke Musgrave: 49.3
[+0.90] 2. LG Elgton Jenkins: 55.3
[+0.25] 3. TE Tucker Kraft: 55.6
[UNK?] 4. WR Romeo Doubs: 55.9
[UNK?] 5. WR Malik Heath: 57.4

Others:
+1.20 Rhyan
+0.80 Jacobs
+0.70 Myers, Rasheed Walker

My takeaways: PFF had Zach Tom as the highest graded player and offensive lineman. Andy gave Tom a good grade, but it was only the 5th best grade amongst the OL. Two grades stand out: Jenkins, who was ranked poorly by PFF, was given the 3rd highest offensive grade by Andy, and Rhyan, who was not even mentioned by PFF, was given an outstanding grade by Andy.
Musgrave's PFF grade was too high. Musgrave is a poor blocker, at most a get in the way blocker. Unlike last year, he isn't catching many passes. I think Musgrave can still be a mismatch as a receiver. It seems like LaFleur is not dialing up plays to get Musgrave matched up against an LB or safety. If the coach isn't going to find mismatches, he might as will play Sims in lieu of Musgrave.

Andy had Wicks with a neutral grade (0) and gave Kraft a modest positive of +0.25. That sounds right to me. Kraft and Wicks made mistakes, even egregious mistakes, but they also made things happen. If nothing happens, you don't score. PFF gave Doubs a low grade because he ran 51 routes and only caught 4 passes, including catching just 1 or 3 contested catches.

I noted Emanuel Wilson's pass protection in my snap counts article. Andy noted it too and also thought there were some vision issues as well.

Don't be deceived by Love's grade. Under Andy's system which tends to accentuate the value of QBs (and to a lesser extent, other skill players) if your QB only accumulates a +0.55 per game, your team is going nowhere. Rodgers routinely was in the plus twenties for the course of a season.

[+1.10] 1. S Xavier McKinney: 91.0
[+0.10] 2. S Evan Williams: 81.0
[+0.05] 3. LB Quay Walker: 68.1
[UNK?] 4. LB Isaiah McDuffie: 68.0
[+0.15] 5. DL Kenny Clark: 66.0

[-0.50] 1. DL TJ Slaton: 34.2
[UNK?] 2. DE Kingsley Enagbare: 39.0
[UNK?] 3. DL Devonte Wyatt: 40.6
[UNK?] 4. LB Edgerrin Cooper: 41.0
[-0.45] 5. LB Eric Wilson: 41.1

Others:

-0.95 Stokes
-0.85 Gary
-0.60 Nixon
-0.50 Ballentine (mostly Addison's double move. OKish after that.

Gary has 1 sack in his last 11 NFL games. Clark was decent. Preston again was quiet. GB can't get these types of performances out of the team's big money guys. So, Brooks, Preston, Gary, Nixon, et al had PFF grades somewhere between 41 and 66? I wonder where? The article explains that Enagbare had 2 pressures over 12 pass rushing snaps. IDK: that isn't great but 16.67% sounds pretty good to me since the league average for pressure rate is 12%. I don't get it - why would PFF cite that as justification for a terrible grade? PFF said he missed a tackle. Okay, but 39 seems like an overreaction. Wilson gave up the TD to the TE - that was way too easy. Ballentine got burned by Addison for a long TD, but Andy thought Corey held up pretty well after that. Slaton was on the ground a lot early but got better. Problem is GB got behind the eight ball early - all the plays count and being down 14-0, 21-0 changes the way a team plays on both offense and defense.

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