NFC North Review: Who Got Better & Who Got Worse
NFC North was a very tight race in 2024, should we expect all teams to get better in 2025?
By Dan Saia
The Green Bay Packers were not good against their NFC North rivals in 2024. They went 1-5 in division play and were a Karl Brooks fingertip away from being completely winless. That didn’t stop them from making the playoffs, however. Despite their struggles in the division, they secured the No. 7 seed and headed to Philadelphia, where they faced the eventual Super Bowl champion Eagles.
The Lions and Vikings each finished with 14 wins and enjoyed outstanding regular seasons, but both were also eliminated in their first postseason game. It’s rare for a team to win 11 games and still finish third in their division, but that’s exactly what happened to the Packers—proof they were a step behind Detroit and Minnesota in 2024.
What about 2025? Did the Lions and Vikings do enough to stay ahead of Green Bay? And what about the Bears, who’ve spent the last few years in the division’s basement? Let’s break down each team’s key additions and losses to assess who improved and who took a step back.
Chicago Bears-
Notable Additions: HC Ben Johnson, OL Jonah Jackson, OL Joe Thuney, C Drew Dalman, DL Grady Jarrett, DE Dayo Odeyingbo, WR Olamide Zaccheaus, TE Colston Loveland
Notable Departures: WR Keenan Allen, OL Teven Jenkins, DL DeMarcus Walker
GM Ryan Poles had a clear mission this offseason: protect Caleb Williams at all costs. The rookie quarterback was sacked a whopping 68 times in 2024—third-most in NFL history. No team can expect consistent success while allowing that much pressure on its franchise QB.
The most impactful move may have been hiring head coach Ben Johnson. After leading the Lions’ high-powered offense, he finally took a head coaching job that suits him. In Chicago, he inherits a promising young quarterback, ascending pass catchers, and a revamped offensive line.
The losses include a 33-year-old Keenan Allen who had clearly lost a step, and former first round pick Teven Jenkins, who couldn’t stay on the field. It’s hard not to conclude that the Bears got better.
Minnesota Vikings-
Notable Additions: QB Sam Howell, DT Jonathan Allen, OL Will Fries, DT Javon Hargrave, LB Eric Wilson, CB Jeff Okudah, C Ryan Kelly
Notable Departures: QB Sam Darnold, S Camryn Bynum, C Garrett Bradbury, G Ed Ingram, QB Daniel Jones
The Vikings’ 2025 season hinges on one question: Did they make the right decision at quarterback? Rather than re-sign Sam Darnold, they handed the reins to rookie J.J. McCarthy. If Minnesota misses the playoffs, McCarthy’s performance will likely be the reason. It’s a high-risk, high-reward gamble—if it pays off, they have a young, cost-controlled QB to build around. But if Darnold thrives in Seattle, it’ll be a tough pill to swallow.
Defensively, they improved. Already a solid unit under Brian Flores, the defense now features proven disruptors like Jonathan Allen and Javon Hargrave. Ryan Kelly should also be an upgrade over Bradbury, long the weak link on the offensive line.
Still, due to the uncertainty at quarterback, I believe the Vikings got slightly worse.
Detroit Lions-
Notable Additions: CB D.J. Reed, DL Roy Lopez, TE Kenny Yeboah, LB Grant Stuard
Notable Departures: C Frank Ragnow, DE Za’Darius Smith, LB Jalen Reeves-Maybin, CB Carlton Davis, OC Ben Johnson, DC Aaron Glenn
I’m firmly in the camp that believes the defending NFC North champions took a step back this offseason.
Losing both of their highly respected coordinators—Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn—is massive. Replacing even one coordinator is difficult; replacing two could lead to a rocky transition. It may take half the season for the Lions to regain their rhythm on either or both sides of the ball. Dan Campbell is a great head coach, but not so much an X’s and O’s guy so his coordinators better be.
Then there’s the surprise retirement of Frank Ragnow—the heart and soul of their offensive line and locker room. A four-time Pro Bowler and three-time second-team All-Pro, Ragnow was still in his prime at 29. His loss is going to be tough to overcome for their offense.
While signing D.J. Reed helps in the secondary, he essentially replaces the departed Carlton Davis. Za’Darius Smith remains unsigned but could still return. Even so, I don’t believe that move shifts the balance much. The Lions took a step back.
Green Bay Packers-
Notable Additions: CB Nate Hobbs, OL Aaron Banks, WR Matthew Golden, WR Mecole Hardman
Notable Departures: CB Jaire Alexander, LB Eric Wilson, C Josh Myers, CB Eric Stokes, RB A.J. Dillon
Along with the Bears, the Packers are the other NFC North team that clearly got better.
Yes, they released All-Pro cornerback Jaire Alexander, but given his repeated injuries and missed games, the impact is more reputational than practical. Nate Hobbs brings versatility and reliability to the secondary. Rookie Matthew Golden adds speed to the receiver room—particularly valuable while Christian Watson recovers—and Mecole Hardman offers elite punt-return ability, freeing up Keisean Nixon to focus more on his defensive responsibilities in a post Jaire world.
Even if the Packers don’t sign Aaron Banks to play guard and move Elgton Jenkins to center and would have rolled with a Jacob Monk, I’d still say the offensive line is improved by not re-signing Josh Myers. Myers at times last season was clearly the worst player along the offensive line. With Aaron Banks added to the mix, this unit should excel in the run game, helping Josh Jacobs and company cook all season long.
The Packers got better—and I believe they’ll win the North in 2025.
-Dan Saia




Comments (28)
Bitternotsour
July 03, 2025 at 02:31 pm
You've got more faith in the hiring of a jumped-up offensive coordinator than I do. Also, the line improvements mean nothing if Caleb can't count and drop back at the same time, something he proved impossible last season. He took a huge number of sacks because he has no sense of timing. Let's face it, they drafted the wrong quarterback, and they are still the Bears.
Minnesota has a fine coach and he made Darnold a pretty fair QB. I have no idea how that swap of QB's is going to work out, but if we go by history, it won't go well. The purple DNA is a losing DNA.
Detroit has a good quarterback, he will continue to be good and they'll make the playoffs. Then they'll lose in the first round.
GregC
July 03, 2025 at 03:11 pm
The Lions won 15 games last year, not 14. I basically agree with the analysis here, though, including the Packers as the pick to win the division.
TarynsEyes
July 03, 2025 at 03:15 pm
These Around The NFCN articles are cute, and funny. They always have reasons why these three will be worse, while neglecting that their drop might still leave them better than the Packer's improvement, which is as subjective.
Why is it a belief that Johnson won't/can't do more for Chi and Williams than what MLF seems incapable of doing for GB?
Min can have a part of the success of Daniels or Stroud rookie seasons under McConnell, and Det, well, I think replacing two coordinators there is better than how GB replaces any of theirs.
How about being brave and write about why the Division rivals might remain better with one catching them.
I know it isn't the format here to give credit to the enemy, but an honest assessment is needed to know what is needed to win. Don't dismiss the possible of them while lying about your own to compensate.
PhantomII
July 04, 2025 at 02:30 pm
I only care about 1 team...and for them to get better. So GB needs an Elite DE to improve against good teams or for GB to finally get a good mix of DL/DE to get more penetration on pass downs / run stops. I think our LB's could be very good to Elite, but I don't want to NEED them to be used in pass rush because our DL is not effective enough, because any time we do, we give the opposition a place to throw the ball. The other weakness is no #1 WR on Offense. I have high HOPES for this areas improvement and if it does, it will diminish the defensive weakness to a degree. The biggest weakness I see though is ML and his coaches consistently coming up with an effective game plan against better teams as well as being able to answer the oppositions adjustments to our game plan.
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
July 05, 2025 at 03:42 am
Such negativity. If you want to be super pessimistic, cool. You do you. But dont criticize others for not sharing your dread. The fan experience is supposed to be fun and there's absolutely nothing wrong with being optimistic about a ridiculously talented young team with few weakness and an excellent coaching staff.
dobber
July 05, 2025 at 08:45 am
It's funny that so many people here claim to be "realists" and use that as a cudgel to beat others with, but have very different views of what that reality is given the same information.
Bearmeat
July 03, 2025 at 03:39 pm
The Vikings went all in on age. Look at the DTs they signed. How old are they and when was their last great season? Who is going to play CB2 and safety for them? They are counting a lot (and I mean A LOT) on Flores to cook again. Even if McCarthy can play (and I have my doubts), they’re going to regress substantially in the win department. At some point (this year?) they’re going to lose more 1 score games than they win under KOC. They’ve had a horseshoe stuffed so far up their asses in that department, it’s unreal.
“The Bears got better in the offseason.” Yawn. I’ll believe it when it’s November and they’re actually relevant for the first time since 2019.
The Lions objectively got worse. They’re going to be poor up front. And do you know what that means for Game-Manager-Goff? Go look at his history under pressure vs not. It’s ugly. UUUUUGLY. And that doesn’t even count the new OC and DC.
Green Bay is going to win the NFCN this year.
13TimeChamps
July 03, 2025 at 03:45 pm
When it comes to Ben Johnson, I can't help but think of Josh McDaniels when he was hired by Denver. He was the genius, can't miss, innovative OC of the Patriots. He flamed out before the end of his 2nd year. Being a successful OC is no guarantee to be a successful HC. It'll be interesting to see how things will work out in Chicago for him.
NFLfan
July 03, 2025 at 03:53 pm
Or...he could succeed
13TimeChamps
July 03, 2025 at 03:57 pm
Where did I say he wouldn't succeed?
Bitternotsour
July 03, 2025 at 06:19 pm
I'll happily say it for you - he's going to fail. The McDaniels comparison is totally appropriate. A better one is that he's going to be a clone of Marc Trestman who had a better resume when he came into the league. Same old sorry ass Bears.
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
July 05, 2025 at 03:47 am
But he probly wont cuz hes arrogant and just inherited a band of entitled quitters who mutineed against their last coach when the NFL didnt lay down for them like they were expecting. A first time head coach isnt fixing a profoundly rotten culture like that in a single offseason. Bears are primed for another colossal meltdown.
dobber
July 05, 2025 at 08:47 am
McDaniels was his own worst enemy, and his swollen head killed him. So many Hoodie protégées want to be Hoodie 2.0...or 2.1...or whatever. But I don't think anyone can pull off that approach--and catch the right combination of players--to match. I don't know if that's Johnson. I've heard that Johnson isn't someone who has Campbell's charisma or bluster. Some have called him introverted and nerdy. We'll see how that carries when he's got to command a locker room.
Johnson makes me think of Matt Nagy, too. Nagy had a splash when he first arrived in Chicago, but his shortcomings and those of Ryan Pace, eventually won out.
NFLfan
July 03, 2025 at 03:53 pm
I think we all need to sit back and wait 2 months to experience reality. I see lots of 'critiquing' of the Vikings, Bears and Lions while refusing to use the same format w/the Packers.
LeotisHarris
July 03, 2025 at 09:25 pm
Seems like the author used the same format here, but he may not have arrived at the "reality" some expect.
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
July 05, 2025 at 03:49 am
Yup. No optimism allowed. Only doomerism and negativity will be accepted at the cool kids table.
dobber
July 06, 2025 at 05:11 pm
Just like holiday meals!
CoachJV
July 03, 2025 at 03:54 pm
Lions were devastated by coaching losses. They're basically going to be in a whole new system offensive and defensive. There's carryover of course, but it will be a big enough change to cause some losses early on.
Queens got nothing. Rookie QB and they have holes everywhere.
The Bears STILL suck.
We added a lot of good pieces on O... hopefully we can find one more difference maker for the D-line, or a CB.
Winner - Packers!
GPG!
NitschkeFromTheGrave
July 04, 2025 at 02:11 pm
For the most part I agree with most of this article, BUT.... Dan has a glaring hole to fill in this story if the Pack can win the division, Jordan Love. If Mr. Love preforms anywhere close to his 2024 stats..... The division banner will not be coming back to Title-Town. Jordan has gotten a contract well above NFL avg. If he steps up from last year and plays to match or exceed the value the Front office gifted him with.... Then yeah, the banner and title will be ours.
Aside from that, my 2 fav NFL teams are still.....:
The Green Bay Packers
and
Whoever is playing the Chicago Bears !
GPG
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
July 05, 2025 at 03:58 am
Love had the #5 QBR in all of football last year. QBR is by far the best qb stat there is because it factors in important situational play like 3rd downs, 4th downs, end of half scoring drives, 4th qtr play, game winning drives, Overtime, etc. Basically, there's a direct correlation between QBR and wins/losses. For example, of the qb's ranked in the top 10 of total qbr, 8 made playoffs and 1 of the 2 who did not was Joe Burrow, who had an MVP caliber season but sadly played on a garbage team. An extreme outlier. Long story short, Love low key played winning football last year even if the basic stats dont reflect that or if it didnt always pass the "eye test". If Love even plays the exact same as he did last year and takes no real step forward, theres still a good chance this team wins more games with at least some of their young players almost guaranteed to improve around him and the odds of his receivers being as bad as last year almost statistically impossible. And if Love does improve? This team will become an absolute juggernaut.
Starrbrite
July 08, 2025 at 08:18 pm
My two favorites: the Pack and whomever is playing the Broncos—I despise that team.
Snap the ball
July 04, 2025 at 09:09 pm
The Packers have more talent than anyone in division.
The difference is QB play.
I just pray to God that every game last year 80 percent of the snaps are not snapped with one second left, so the defense can tee off or switch at the last second.
I would like to see up tempo part of the game . We have the wide outs and and backs to go up tempo.
Rogers and Favre did it. They both said I don’t care what defense they are doing,. They have to stop our offense.
Matt needs to fix that
Get up on some teams. Then the defense can do some other things.
I watch the Vikings come into Lambeau and go up tempo and made us play from behind.
The Vikings threw quick and looked for yack.made me sick to my stomach.
That’s what teams will do at Lambeau.
Losing 3 division games at home. Come on .
Need to be 10 or 11 at home this year…..yes I know only 8 regular season games at home. The playoffs are back at lambeau for a few weeks
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
July 05, 2025 at 04:03 am
I used to think the running the clock down thing was a Rodgers gimmick but its not just a Rodgers thing. Its a Lafleur strategy. And it might bite them in the butt sometimes in the micro but in the macro its brilliant because it helps them shorten games. The more time they take off the clock, the fewer possessions the opponents get. As long as the offense is finishing drives and scoring points, this strategy puts extra pressure on opponents which leads to impatience which leads to mistakes. Would be nice if they mixed it up a little more to keep defenses on their toes but ultimately its an advantageous strategy that has helped them win a ton of games in the Lafleur era.
Bitternotsour
July 05, 2025 at 09:21 am
It was a Rodgers thing. Clearly. Sometimes it takes LaFleur too long to get a play in, but by and large Love isn't trying to get a last second read.
13TimeChamps
July 05, 2025 at 09:50 am
That was definitely a Rodgers thing. It used to drive me crazy, yelling SNAP THE DAMN BALL at the tv as the clock was ticking down. How many unnecessary timeouts were burned when they couldn't get the ball snapped on time. That...and constantly trying to draw the other team offsides got old after awhile. I've always been of the belief...get up to the line and snap the ball before the defense has a chance to dig in.
I could be wrong, but I don't recall Love continuing those trends.
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
July 05, 2025 at 03:14 am
Packers got better with the additions of Hobbs and Brooks who essentially replaced 2 bad players in Stokes and Myers respectively. Huge upgrades there. They also added another stellar draft class imo. Belton might be my favorite Packers draft pick in recent memory as it signals the Packers are finally beginning to value the big mauler types who wont get pushed around by elite d-linemen in january. They've added 4 olineman who are 320+ with top 100 picks or via free agency in recent years. This is the philosophy ive been begging for them to adhere to for over a decade. Josh Jacobs is going to have a fun season. And at least some of their many young and talented players are almost guaranteed to improve. I expect Reed and Wicks to both come out looking sharper than ever. Kraft is an absolute monster who will be a huge part of the offense. Edgerrin Cooper and Xavier Mckinney both look primed to seriously compete for a defensive player of the year award. Quay should continue to improve in year 2 under Hafley. Cant wait to see Evan Williams and Javon Bullard make their year 2 leap. But my surprise prediction for this defense is that Gary, LVN, and Wyatt all have 10+ sacks and lead an absolute resurgance of their front 4 pass rush under the tutelage of Demarcus Covington, who by all accounts is the type of coach who gets the most out of his guys. But most importantly for this team, I think Jordan Love reaches his final form and shows the world he's an elite quarterback whos ready to lead this team back to the promised land. Hes about to go scorched earth on the NFL and make every single one of the haters eat their words. Packers will make the biggest jump out of any NFC North team for sure. I think they win 13-14 games, recapture this division, and probly get the #1 seed for the playoffs. This is the year our boys become men and start beating the snot out of teams without mercy.
Lions got substantially worse losing both coordinators and 2 pro bowl interior olinemen whom they replaced with mid to late round draft picks. Huuuuuge dropoff from what was the heart and soul of this entire team. Goff is a below-average qb when he faces pressure and that's about to happen with a lot more frequency. And the days of the run game being automatic on short yardage and goalline situations are a thing of the past. Plus Aidan Hutchinson still isnt even fully healed 8 months later after an injury that typically takes 4-6 months to heal. Saw a workout video of him recently and he still has a noticable limp. If hes still not even fully healed, he may never get back to the elite form he showed pre-injury. Lions are about to learn just how ridiculously hard it is to maintain an elite level of play in this league year after year. I think they'll still be good enough to win 9 or 10 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs but their super bowl window is slammed shut.
Bears look improved on paper but Im still not sold on them. Ben Johnson is cocky as all hell for a head coach with zero wins under his belt and hes gonna be real unhappy once he realizes he has to cut his playbook basically in half without the elite oline he had the last couple years in Detroit. Bears added a nice center but the guards they added are old and past their prime. Neither of their tackles impress me either despite the above average grades PFF gave them. The receiving corp is extremely overrated as DJ Moore is a me-first quitter (cant believe hes even still on the team but nobody loves receivers more than Ryan Poles). The guy they drafted in the 2nd round has major character concerns who some have questioned if he even likes football. And Odunze is mainly only a jumpball specialist playing with a qb whos terrible on deep throws. Odunze should never have been a top 10 pick and Im grateful they passed on Brian Thomas Jr so thanks for that, Poles. And speaking of Caleb, he strikes me as an immature and extremely entitled player who shrinks from accountability as well as seriously lacking leadership. They drafted a soft and injured tight end with a premium pick when they already had a good one they dont even use (Poles strikes again). The defense could be good with Dennis Allen coming to town but they still have an average at best pass rush that wont make life any easier for them. Ultimately, I see a Bears team who collectively quit on their coach when things got tough last year and that type of rotten losing culture cant be fixed in a single offseason with a first time head coach and a few new starters. I think that team is primed for another colossal meltdown. 5-6 wins and another top 10 pick in their future.
Vikings obviously got worse losing Darnold, which is wild to say even though its 100% true. Im not sold on Mccarthy, who couldnt even make it through a single preseason game without sustaining a devastating injury. There's been reports he's had trouble maintaining weight and was down to 188 pounds at one point this offseason. Vikings got big problems at the one position you absolutely have to get right. We might see Sam Howell real early in the season. O'Connell might be a damn good coach but you still need a decent lemon to make lemonade. I think they probly squeak past Bears for 3rd place with 7 or 8 wins.
dobber
July 05, 2025 at 09:15 am
"Josh Jacobs is going to have a fun season. And at least some of their many young and talented players are almost guaranteed to improve"
It's hard to keep running backs healthy, especially backs that play through contact like Jacobs does, but the OL makes the back as often as not, and most good running teams don't fall off much if RB1 gets shelved for a few games. I think the changes the Packers made on the OL will help to mitigate the impact of who is carrying the football. That's a must if you want to be a running team.
"Lions got substantially worse losing both coordinators and 2 pro bowl interior olinemen whom they replaced with mid to late round draft picks."
The Lions still have a pretty talented roster, and while the weakening of the OL is noteworthy, Mahogany and Ratledge are young guys who should be good enough. Glasgow is the weak link. People get after the loss of the coordinators, which is pretty significant for a CEO type head coach like Campbell, but the promotion from within on defense doesn't seem like a stretch. Morton, the new OC, spent a year under Campbell before moving on, but his only time as an NFL play caller (2017 Jets) was not good.
The Lions aren't going to win 15 games again. It will likely be a stretch for them to win 13. I'm guessing 12.
"The defense could be good with Dennis Allen coming to town"
Eberflus was a good defensive play caller. I don't see the coach making much difference in how their defense performs. Their bigger acquisitions on defense are Grady Jarrett, who used to be good, and Dayo Odeyingbo (or something like that) who is overpaid and underwhelming. Teams will run at him all day. In the end, it will all come down to how they rush and cover, and they really didn't do much to get better.
The_Baloney_Stops_Here
July 05, 2025 at 03:38 pm
Even if Jacobs does get banged up, he's never suffered a major injury. No reason to assume that would happen this year. He stayed healthy last year despite getting hit in the backfield a lot. With an improved oline, I expect more room for him to run which should make for less contact for him. As for the Lions, I think you're underselling the impacts those losses will have for them. Yeah sure Mahogany and Rutledge might be ok but theyre not gonna play like pro bowlers immediately. Thats just a fact. There will be a big dropoff and for a team that was used to dominating the line of scrimmage on offense the last few years the dropoff will be palpable. As I noted in my original comment, the Lions run game has been almost automatic in short yardage and goalline situations. Thats not gonna happen anymore. Remember when the Packers lost Corey Linsley? They lost only one pro bowler and the dropoff was substantial and Josh Myers actually played decent his rookie year. The run game and offense as a whole still took a big step back from 2020 to 2021 without Linsley and he was the only major loss on that offense. Imagine if that 2021 team lost Elgton Jenkins and had to learn a new offense too. Thats what the Lions are facing this year. The oline has been the major driving force for that offense's dominance in recent years and now that oline is coming back down to earth. They're not going to be nearly as good. Like I said they will still probly be good enough to squeak into the playoffs but that offense isnt going to be the juggernaut its been the last couple years. That team is now vulnerable.