Ha Ha Clinton-Dix's Future with Packers Is Uncertain

Green Bay Packers safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix was the only player on the roster to miss both of last week's voluntary practice sessions.  They key word there is "voluntary".  That Clinton-Dix wasn't there is much ado about nothing, given that fact.

Many players will opt to sit out of team activities that they're not required to participate in.  Throw in that Clinton-Dix is entering a contract season, it's even less of a surprise.  Why risk injury when he doesn't have to? 

The Packers didn't return veteran Morgan Burnett and also didn't draft a starting-caliber safety in this year's draft so Clinton-Dix isn't really competing for a job right now.  Kentrell Brice and Josh Jones are the only other safeties currently on the roster with any significant playing time under their belt.

The Packers did exercise the fifth-year option on Clinton-Dix, which will pay him just shy of $6 million this season, all of which is guaranteed.  After this season, the fifth-year safety is an unrestricted free agent and it appears as though little is going to change that between now and then.

There has been a lot of talk about how 2017 was a dismal year for the former Alabama safety.  By his own admission, it was a down year for him.  He had just three interceptions on the season and defended six passes.

Following a Pro Bowl appearance in 2016, many expected a breakout season for Clinton-Dix.  When he was an afterthought in many of last year's games, the questions were aplenty.  Was there an injury?  Was he unmotivated or did he get lazy?

In a recent story by 247Sports' Bill Huber, Clinton-Dix addressed his 2017:

“Last year, we had to do what was best for the team. I wasn’t involved in a lot, but last year was last year,” Clinton-Dix said. “I didn’t meet the standards I set for myself personally. If you ask a guy from a different team, three picks and 80 tackles with not being involved in the scheme, I think they would think they had a great year. But with a guy like me with the high expectations I set for myself, I expect more and I expect more from myself this year. I have to work on a lot of things to get better at and I’m excited about it.”

To hear Clinton-Dix say that he wasn't involved in a lot last year has me wondering just how well he was utilized by Dom Capers and his defensive coaches.  You can make the argument that regardless of scheme, a player should still have the instincts to make more plays, especially in his fourth season.  But there are a lot of things that happen on the field and behind the scenes that we don't know about.

I'm inclined to say that we've seen Clinton-Dix play at a much higher level than he did in 2017.  And while we're harping on last season for him, a look at his career shows that 2015 was an equally unimpressive season, statistically speaking.  He had just two interceptions and three passes defended.  As mentioned, he bounced back and made the Pro Bowl the next year.

Playing in a contract season and with a new defensive coordinator should be plenty of motivation for Clinton-Dix to turn up his game however he can.  Perhaps it will become apparent that the scheme was holding him back.  While Burnett has departed, cornerback Tramon Williams returns and gives Clinton-Dix an old friend back in the fold.  

Add to that the arrival of two top rookie cornerbacks and the Packers secondary could be a lot more fun to watch than they have been in awhile.  In Clinton-Dix's case, hopefully he's able to have more fun playing his role and can parlay that into more years in green and gold.

The Packers will be looking for early signs of what they'll likely have in Clinton-Dix if they decide to give him a new contract.  The alternative would be turning to free agency or the draft to fill that need, which is exactly what Ted Thompson did in 2014 when he drafted the Alabama standout.  That would be a setback for the Packers, even if only in the eyes of those outside of Green Bay.  

The future of the marriage between Ha Ha Clinton-Dix and the Packers may be unknown right now, but it would seem that both sides want to stay together.  It will be one of the more intriguing storylines for the Packers in 2018.

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Jason is a freelance writer on staff since 2012 and also co-hosts Cheesehead TV Live, Pulse of the Pack and Pack A Day podcasts.  You can follow him on Twitter here

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HankScorpio's picture

June 04, 2018 at 06:15 am

"The Packers did exercise the fifth-year option on Clinton-Dix, which will pay him just shy of $6 million this season, all of which is guaranteed. "

It's guaranteed for injury now. It becomes fully guaranteed if/when he's on the final 53. At least that is what I thought the rules for 5th year option was.

Capers wasn't the guy that was ordering HHCD to take bad angles and shy away from contact. As bad as I thought Capers was, I'm quite certain that kind of stuff was not part of his scheme. HHCD is making a mistake in letting guys get a leg up on him with the new staff, IMO.

He's not that good. He never really was, IMO. Playing at Alabama surrounded by so much talent, it is easy for any one player to pile up stats. They over-matched so many teams physically. That doesn't happen in the NFL so much.

Frankly, I wouldn't care in the least if he is a surprise cut from the final 53 and ends up not being the $6 Million Man this year.

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TKWorldWide's picture

June 04, 2018 at 06:22 am

We can rebuild him.
We can make him better than he was.
Better, stronger, faster.

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HankScorpio's picture

June 04, 2018 at 06:36 am

If Pettine turns HHCD into a player worthy of being a 1st round pick, maybe we should nickname Pettine Rudy Wells.

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TheVOR's picture

June 04, 2018 at 08:44 am

We need to switch him to RB or WR, he's clearly playing out of position. After all, it's the Packers way!

Truthfully, they need to trade him him for any value at this point, he will not be back on this roster next year, regardless of how he plays this year. If he plays lights out, he's gone, we can't afford him, if he plays mediocre, he's gone, we don't need/want him. Either way, he's gone!

They need to trade this player ASAP for "any value" they can get out of him. That would be the "New England Way". Makes the most sense, move on from this player.

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fthisJack's picture

June 04, 2018 at 09:15 am

my thoughts exactly Hank. he played super soft and he really should be at these OTA's to learn the new scheme. he talks the talk but he better walk the walk or he may be walking next year. like you, i never thought he was pro bowl material. that TD he gave up to the Seahawks in '14 was a back breaker and a good example of his shying away from contact. i wouldn't mind if they cut him from the roster this year. i'm that disgusted with his play.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

June 04, 2018 at 04:54 pm

HHCD's $5.97M salary became guaranteed for injury, cap and skill on March 14, 2018. He can be traded or extended, but he is going to earn at least that much.

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HankScorpio's picture

June 04, 2018 at 07:21 pm

Apparently, I found some bad info. Thanks for the clarification.

So HHCD won't be cut.

Maybe they can trade him for "past considerations"

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NickPerry's picture

June 04, 2018 at 06:17 am

"Green Bay Packers safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix was the only player on the roster to miss both of last week's voluntary practice sessions"

Hmmm...Don't know about you guys but this bothers me a bit. Especially after the season he had last season. A new scheme, new DC, new teammates, a new Safety in Josh Jones starting next to you and you feel the need to miss BOTH practice sessions?

That's a bit concerning IMO. You'd hope Clinton-Dix would want to be there with his teammates for the start of something hopefully special this season. Well I hope he comes to TC READY to ball out this year. The Packers can't afford another season of "Brain-Farts" by HHCD.

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HankScorpio's picture

June 04, 2018 at 06:45 am

Teams are always talking about "next man up", Marwin Evans, Jermaine Whitehead and Kentrell Brice are getting reps now. Throw in Quentin Rollins, who many think is better suited to Safety. And possible UDFA surprise Raven Greene. Of course, Josh Jones is in that mix as well, trying to solidify his hold on one starting spot.

Including HHCD, 3 or 4 of those guys will likely be gone from the final 53. HHCD carries a cap number that is in a different zip code than those others. He better make sure his performance also carries a huge disparity over them in order to justify that cap disparity.

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fthisJack's picture

June 04, 2018 at 09:19 am

if he's not performing in camp and we have guys that are stepping up....trade his unmotivated azz before the season. he might draw a 4th rounder next year.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

June 04, 2018 at 06:39 am

I've never been an HHCD fan; I didn't want to draft him, I was amazed that he made the Pro Bowl, and I complained more about HIM than about any aspect of the team (including Hundley and Capers) last year. Two years ago, I predicted that Brice would take C-D's position within the next three years. No position on the defense needs this training camp as much as the safeties, who must know all of the moving pieces--C-D skips it. I'm just waiting for the shoe to drop...

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Donster's picture

June 04, 2018 at 06:58 am

HHCD not showing up for voluntary practice isn't a wise move for him, considering the coaching and philosophy change for this coming season. Maybe he had an legitimate reason why he wasn't there. But I wonder if he thinks he is a starter this season no matter what. So why bother with being at voluntary practices? That is the kind of attitude that will put you on the street.

Pettine or not, he has to have his head all in for every practice and pre-season game. He would have to totally be out played to get cut, but he could be traded.

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holmesmd's picture

June 04, 2018 at 01:04 pm

MM stated at his presser on Packers.com that he was dealing with a “personal issue” and that MM had “zero concerns”. It’s odd but HHCD looked pretty chill on his Instagram feed chilling in south Florida!? Something seems amiss. I like the potential but what the heck is more important to your 6million/yr job than doing everything you can to be available to your position group?! I’m quite disappointed unless some additional facts come to light?

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

June 04, 2018 at 05:41 pm

You really believe MM would be honest with the press and publicly admonish HHCD?

Get rid of him. He is a problem!

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NickPerry's picture

June 05, 2018 at 05:04 am

I didn't hear that so that's somewhat encouraging as to why he missed.

But then again doesn't McCarthy throw out the words "zero concerns" much like he does "responsibility" "fundamentals" or "accountability"?

Oops not so "encouraged" again.. ; )

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Handsback's picture

June 04, 2018 at 07:23 am

I think Tre Boston is still available as a FA . I hate to think about it, but HHCD wasn't very good last year and if he's going to add an attitude problem on top of that...pick up insurance. The Packer's depth at the safety position isn't the best.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

June 04, 2018 at 05:34 pm

I've been posting about how cheap Boston might be for quite a while now. HHCD's absence isn't gasoline, but it is kindling for me.

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PatrickGB's picture

June 04, 2018 at 07:35 am

Right now I see his not being at voluntary practices as a non issue. Let’s wait and see how the season plays out before any judgement about him is made. It’s a long off season and things will sort themselves out later. If he plays well, then great if not then we know that the position has lots of FAs still sitting out there still looking for a job. It’s just posturing on his part for a good contract and lots of players do it. Let’s not write him off yet.

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HankScorpio's picture

June 04, 2018 at 08:07 am

You're right, his absence from voluntary camp is not much of a concern. I'm reasonably certain his agent is behind the decision to not attend. Agents will be agents.

99% of what drives my skepticism is what he's done on the field, which is far from impressive, IMO. He can use all the reps he can get to turn that around, IMO. He'll have plenty of time in TC to impress if he's capable. That's the rub. I'm not so sure he is capable.

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mrtundra's picture

June 04, 2018 at 09:20 am

It would have been nice to have seen HHCD show some effort, any effort, last season. Helping his CB teammates could have resulted in turnovers in a few instances last season, if he would have participated in the play to it's conclusion.

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Spock's picture

June 04, 2018 at 09:09 am

I tend to agree with Hank's suggestion is that this non-attendance for voluntary workouts is probably (bad) advice from his agent for some perceived 'leverage' on contract talks. IMO Ha-Ha would be better served to be a veteran example by being there.

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Ryan Graham's picture

June 04, 2018 at 09:20 am

I'm not all that concerned about this either, they are voluntary workouts. Do I think it's the brightest move on his part, no. But again not much of an issue as long as hes at least getting in the new scheme which I'm sure he is on his own time.

I personally think he doesnt deserve all the criticism he has gotten this offseason. Definitely some, but it's not like he played so poorly he shouldn't be out there. Relatively speaking he was a productive player on a horrible defense for 4 years. Players will have high seasons and low seasons, last year wasnt a high point. But theres no denying he has the ability. Hes going to have every opportunity to make plays being the veteran guy in the secondary now. Barring injury I think this will play itself out and he will get an appropriately paid contract and all of this will blow over.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

June 04, 2018 at 05:51 pm

It isn't posturing to get a good extension. There is zero chance of HHCD getting an extension before the middle of the season. HHCD could not get $6M if he were an UFA right now.

"If he plays well, then great if not then we know that the position has lots of FAs still sitting out there still looking for a job."

But we won't know if he is playing well until at least August and probably not until September. No one can tell how a guy is playing if he is invisible, and it isn't like the coaches are going to tell us he is playing lousy. Those free agents still looking for a job won't be out there in September. There really is only one FA I'd be comfortable with as our starting FS.

We likely have a finite number of years where we should be in contention: I have more urgency perhaps than you do. I do acknowledge that there are some positions that can't be reinforced and we just have to hope the players we have will work out. But that's not the case with FS.

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lebowski's picture

June 04, 2018 at 09:15 am

The visual evidence is overwhelming; he flat out quit at the end of last year. Despite that, McCarthy stuck by him and even proclaimed him one of the leaders on defense moving forward. The fact that he's the ONLY one not here with a new scheme being implemented is incredibly disappointing.

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Spock's picture

June 04, 2018 at 09:15 am

Off topic: Well, I'm officially once again into my "terrible twos" as today is my birthday and I'm now two to the sixth power (64) years 'young'. I'd like to give a special birthday wish to Worztik that his cancer treatments go well. Live long and prosper my friend. I hope to see you commenting soon (I must be missing all those !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). :)

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fthisJack's picture

June 04, 2018 at 09:25 am

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....that do it for you, Spock? happy bday dude!

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dobber's picture

June 04, 2018 at 10:31 am

Happy birthday, and many Packer SB wins more!

And, again, best to you Worztik. Battle, man, battle!

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Mojo's picture

June 04, 2018 at 11:29 am

Having a birthday today is like having one on Christmas. After all, it is National Cheese Day.

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Spock's picture

June 04, 2018 at 01:42 pm

Mojo, THAT explains why I've always been so 'cheesy'. Thanks for the B'day wishes and good wishes for Worztik with his fight against 3-4 stage cancer. Worztik, if you read this, remember that attitude is everything. Keep smiling dude!

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

June 04, 2018 at 03:09 pm

Happy Birthday Spock.

Healthy wishes Worztik.

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RCPackerFan's picture

June 04, 2018 at 09:27 am

The biggest thing that concerns me about Clinton-Dix being absent is the fact that they have a new DC. In the end I think he will be fine, but I think he is missing some valuable time to learn the new system on the field and learn to play with his fellow Safety's.

As far as production from last year, I really don't get what they were trying to do with Clinton-Dix. This part of his comment really stood out to me "not being involved in the scheme". When watching games we routinely saw him running backwards 30+ yards off the LOS play after play. Obviously that was what he was told to do.

I am hoping with the new scheme it will allow Clinton-Dix to get back to his pro bowl form.

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dobber's picture

June 04, 2018 at 10:34 am

That "not being involved" comment is a real head-scratcher. Does he mean he was an afterthought...the "go play right field" kind of mentality on the part of coaches? Does he mean that he wasn't featured in the way that he (or his agent) felt he should be? Maybe he was making suggestions in meetings, but felt he was ignored?

I wonder if he felt that how he was used failed to magnify his value in some way...

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RCPackerFan's picture

June 05, 2018 at 07:07 am

I'm just guessing but I think it had him playing deep safety play after play. We saw so many times he was bailing out deep and being taken out of play.

Can't make a play being 30+ yards off the ball.

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TheBigCheeze's picture

June 04, 2018 at 09:46 am

....overpaid players......who didn't do well last year.....who have a bad attitude......and don't attend OTA's......should be CUT!!!....BTW.....never understood this "voluntary" [email protected] yer butt to Green Bay.....NOW!!!

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Since'61's picture

June 04, 2018 at 10:47 am

you can thank the CBA for the voluntary cr@p. As long as he gets serious for TC I am OK with HAHA missing OTAs. Thanks, Since '61

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sheppercheeser's picture

June 04, 2018 at 09:49 am

I understand HHCD not wanting to risk getting hurt, but too bad he couldn't sit-in on schemes so that the learning curve when he DOES come on board isn't so great, but maybe that's not allowed. IDK- I think this could hurt him later...

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Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

June 04, 2018 at 10:44 am

I predict HHCD has a big year and, unfortunately, leaves for a massive payday.

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Mojo's picture

June 04, 2018 at 11:34 am

HHCD's words are not lining up with his actions.

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Point-Packer's picture

June 04, 2018 at 12:12 pm

Another in the long line of over-rated Packers that the homer fans elevate, but compared to other free safety's is below average. He had one good year. One ok year. One bad year. And one god awful year (last season). He was absolutely dreadful last year. I wouldn't be surprised nor would I care if this was his last year with the Pack. Likely his last year as a starter, unless some sucker decides to throw him out there.

Sell!

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Ferrari Driver's picture

June 04, 2018 at 12:28 pm

I'm concerned about Clinton-Dix's attitude as much as his mediocre to poor play last year.

I do expect improvement in his play this year, but I was also hoping for an attitude change.

The message being sent by some of his comments in the newspaper is disconcerting and while the OTA is not mandatory, I would have expected him to attend, especially with the change in the defensive scheme.

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Point-Packer's picture

June 04, 2018 at 06:06 pm

"mediocre to poor"...? He was absolutely awful last year. Looked lost. Timid. Awful tackling. Few, if any, impact plays that weren't delivered to him on a platter.

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Bert's picture

June 04, 2018 at 01:05 pm

I would say that missing the OTAs is a missed opportunity for HHCD to make a good first impression on Pettine. Sometimes you get only one chance to make a good first impression. Unless there are compelling reasons, I think HaHa may find himself in a situation where he has already dug himself into a hole. Not cool.

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Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

June 04, 2018 at 01:09 pm

Good, valid point.

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Lare's picture

June 04, 2018 at 02:55 pm

If there are attitude issues with HHCD, it doesn't bode well for his future in Green Bay. As we saw with Sitton and Randall, those types of issues are reason enough to find them another location.

That said, HHCD leaving wouldn't be that big of a loss. In addition to the current players on the roster, there's still a couple of pretty decent FA safeties available that would probably even be an upgrade.

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stockholder's picture

June 04, 2018 at 01:35 pm

Nobody played well last year. I believe ha -ha will do better. A little job appreciation people. To much negativity for our star defensive players.

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Couch Cleats's picture

June 04, 2018 at 01:47 pm

If he had such an issue with the scheme last year and felt so underutilized, you would think he would be greeting the new DC like an eager puppy.

I'm sure Pettine has watched every game film twice by now to see what he has to work with. HaHa put so much trash on tape he should be embarrassed in front of the new staff. Especially the plays where he ducked out of contact.

To not show up seems disrespectful of the new coaches and arrogant as if he's too good to worry about voluntary practices. If I was Pettine I would be hoping for one of the youngsters to shine and challenge for that spot.

Nothing would send a better message than giving playing time to late pick over a 1st rounder that thinks he's too good to practice after a shitty year. He seems like he's just bad ass enough to do it too.

Blake Martinez played for the same defense and he showed up busting balls every week. Dix seems like a me first type of player to me. Really hope he gets beat out . Not likely but we shall see.

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Bure9620's picture

June 04, 2018 at 02:58 pm

I like HHCD in many ways. I always appreciate professional athletes pursuing a passion outside of the game and planning for a career after football. He has done this with an internship with the Brown county sheriff's office. He has been a positive influence in his communities as well.

However, short of an elite playmaking season, this is his last year in GB. He is an average to poor tackler, okay as a deep middle player and at times can be a liability. $6 mil is actually above his market value. In addition, the safety position has been devalued, Reid and Tre' Boston are still unemployed and both played real well last year. HHCD's effort late last season bothered me quite a bit. Terrible effort in Detroit game. He also looked allergic to tackling and going for the ball. I still cannot believe his not going after the ball in the end zone against Carolina, I was at the game standing about 100 ft away from that play dumbfounded. With a new DC and scheme in place to learn combined with his eagerness to make up for last year in an upcoming contract year, he needs to be at OTAs. These are bad optics.

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cheesehead1's picture

June 04, 2018 at 04:30 pm

I too wish he were there. I believe in the MM press conference, he mentioned personal reasons for Clinton-Dix not attending, so have to respect that. Hope he has a big bounce back year!

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4thand1's picture

June 04, 2018 at 04:33 pm

WTF wasn't he praising Dom and saying it wasn't his fault for the defense last year? Now he says he wasn't used in the scheme? Seems all over the place, lets see what this personal stuff is, weeks worth? I say bullshit. When you make millions you would think that would be the most important thing on your to do list.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

June 04, 2018 at 05:46 pm

For $6 million the only acceptable reason for missing is birth of child, or immediate family member death/funeral. If it isn't one of those his reasons are BS!

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ricky's picture

June 04, 2018 at 06:29 pm

All the talk of how he is expendable, get rid of him, he was never that good, trade him for whatever and move on reminds me of the overwhelming consensus about Davante Adams a couple of seasons ago. We don't know why he's ot in camp, but lets assume the worst. Let's wait and see how he does this year, and deal with his contract when the time comes. As far as being too expensive, apparently nobody else has noticed that FA safeties are a glut on the market.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

June 04, 2018 at 09:42 pm

Well, the death of someone close is a pretty good reason. Sounds like his Godmother died May 3, and the first OTA was 5/21 to 5/23. His Godmother's memorial is 6/7. The 2nd OTA was on 5/30 to 6/1. The article doesn't say when the funeral took place.

While that strikes me as a lot of time off, we all deal with death in different ways. I handled my wife's death very differently, but IDK, if it would have been easier to take a lot of time off perhaps I would have. IDK.

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June 05, 2018 at 12:23 pm

Thanks for the link. Explains a lot. I expect he called MM and/or Pettine....maybe even Whitt, Jr. to explain his absence and I am certain they told him "be with your family."

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Tundraboy's picture

June 04, 2018 at 08:48 pm

Quite simple. Put it into your play on the field and show it for the entire season. If not, bye.
Attitude without performance means nothing.

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The Shield's picture

June 05, 2018 at 07:31 am

Let's see if we have this straight. HH says he "wasn't involved in the scheme" last year, so DC Capers did not account for his presence on the field and gave him no role or assignments on any given play? Then there's the many examples (see them on YouTube) where he gave up on plays and didn't tackle or let guys go by him. Then there's the times he was yelling at his teammates and vice versa about assignments--very obvious on the field and on TV. So now, HH the only guy on the whole team not showing up with a new coordinator, new defense, and his role in a new "scheme" this year? Oh.

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DD's picture

June 05, 2018 at 08:04 am

Play is based on performance. As Elmer Fudd said, be very, very careful! Ha, ha.

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LambeauPlain's picture

June 05, 2018 at 12:27 pm

I do take what HHCD's coaches and players say about him seriously.

All reports are he is a great teammate, locker room guy and hard worker. Mike Daniels has called him key to the defense.

He had a lousy year that got worse as the losses mounted up...and after the Pack was eliminated, he seemingly quit. That was concerning.

But two things foreshadow a bounce back season:
1. Pettine
2. Contract year

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