Game Recap: It wasn't pretty, but a win's a win

Packers capitalize on Chargers' mistakes to take the 23-20 win at Lambeau

If you had told me the Packers would win a game this season with a seventh-round pick being our top corner against Justin Herbert and Keenan Allen, I probably would've laughed. But that's just what happened. It wasn't a pretty win by any means. Keenan Allen still had a day with 10 catches for 116 yards and a touchdown. Not to mention a dropped touchdown where Vince Lombardi angled the sun just right into his eyes. But somehow it ended up not being enough to beat the Packers. 

Jordan Love achieved his first career 300+ yard passing game. A feat that hasn't been accomplished since 2021 in a Packers uniform. Admittedly a fair amount of those yards were after the catch, but I'm pretty sure #12 benefitted from YAC more than a few times, so let's still enjoy it shall we? A few of those passes including the touchdown to Romeo Doubs in the endzone were some absolute dimes. Love is showing he still can make those great throws, he just needs to do it more often. 

The defense had its ups and downs per usual. It is what it is, I've come to expect it, but they were able to show up in the end when it counted. Justin Herbert leading the team with 73 yards rushing is just embarrassing, the Packers needed to better contain him. He's not always a mobile quarterback, but he can be, and it's better to watch for the run than completely ignore it.

Probably the biggest downer in this game is the injury to Aaron Jones. Seeing him leave the game with a towel on his head on the cart was absolutely gutting. He really is the heart and soul of this team and whatever injury he might have sustained we can only hope it's not major. I will say though that the way this team still rallied in his absence was huge. To have your leader go down like that can be tough for some of the young guys to push forward but they did it, and they pulled off the win for him. 

Let's get to the recap:

First Quarter:

The Packers began the game on offense after a decent kick return by Keisean Nixon. However, the return was basically wiped out by Dallin Leavitt being called for unsportsmanlike conduct pinning the Packers at their own 8-yard line to start. A big return wiped out by penalties already. Despite this poor starting position, the Packers’ offense got out to a good start through the air with two good chunk passes to Romeo Doubs and another to Luke Musgrave taking the Packers to the 42-yard line. Minus a nine-yard pass to AJ Dillon, the Packers wouldn’t go any further though, and would be stopped cold with a Jayden Reed run on third down. LaFleur elected to attempt a fourth down conversion, but the offense was stopped when Luke Musgrave couldn’t go anywhere after the catch and the ball was turned over on downs. Chargers star pass rusher Joey Bosa was injured on the drive with an apparent leg injury and was carted off the field. Bad sign for the sack master and he would not return in this one. 

The Chargers would take over for their first possession of the game in excellent field position at the Packers’ 49-yard line with 11:03 remaining in the opening quarter. The Packers' defense would get off to a good start narrowly missing a Quay Walker interception on their way to forcing the Chargers' offense to fourth down where they would attempt a conversion same as the Packers did, but a wide-open Donald Parham would drop the Justin Herbert pass on fourth down leading to a turnover on downs for the Chargers this time around. The Packers offense would take over at their own 43-yard line with 9:36 remaining in the quarter.  

On their second drive, the Packers offense couldn’t get anything outside of a 3-yard run from Aaron Jones before going three and out. Possibly the only positive on this drive is that with the Daniel Whelan punt the Packers were able to reverse the field position pinning the Chargers at their own 14-yard line after the 40-yard punt and fair catch. Chargers would take over with 8 minutes remaining in the quarter. 

The Chargers tried to start out the drive with a little trickery having Austin Ekeler take the direct snap and run, but it only got them three yards before Preston Smith snuffed it out. After this though, the Chargers began moving the ball mainly through the air picking up a couple of first downs in the process. The defense briefly tightened up forcing a third and 1 attempt around midfield, but then Austin Ekeler turned it on and busted a 37-yard run to the outside down to the Packers' 12-yard line. The defense tightened again though at this point forcing the Chargers to attempt a 25-yard Cameron Dicker field goal that would be driven down the middle giving Los Angeles the 3-0 lead with 1:22 remaining in the first quarter.  

Keisean Nixon busted a 30-yard return to the Packer's 31-yard line on the ensuing kick but unfortunately came up limping after the play. He exited the field under his own power but a concern with the Packers only carrying 4 cornerbacks into this game. First play of the drive Jordan Love took a shot downfield to Romeo Doubs but it fell incomplete with a questionable DPI on the Chargers but no flags on the play. Regardless of that result, Jayden Reed busted a 15-yard run on the following play for the first down. A 19-yard check-down throw and run-after catch to AJ Dillon for the first down would then end the quarter with the Packers down to the LA 32-yard line.  

Second Quarter:

On the very first play of the second quarter, Jayden Reed took an end-around 32 yards to the house as the Packers took the lead 7-3 to begin the second quarter. A big block downfield for Malik Heath was noticeable on that play that likely broke that big touchdown 

On the Chargers' first play of the next drive, Karl Brooks ran right around his guard for a sack of Justin Herbert. Brooks, with that explosive first step, showed up again for the sack. Unfortunately, the Chargers would overcome the sack and get the first down after a Justin Herbert scramble and Alex Erickson catch. At around midfield on 3rd and 3 Justin Herbert would hit tight end Stone Smartt wide open and after Jonathan Owens completely botched the tackle attempt, Smartt would take it to the house for a 51-yard touchdown giving the Chargers the 10-7 lead with 12:16 remaining in the half. I can’t begin to comprehend how Owens was trying to make that tackle at the shoulders in open space, poor tackling strikes again. 

After a short kickoff, the ball takes some favorable bounces for the Chargers as the Packers begin at their own 17. Noticeable on the kick was Keisean Nixon back in the game after the previous injury. On the first play however, Jordan Love would be sacked by Sebastian Joseph-Day, but they would immediately recover with a 29-yard-deep pass to Dontayvion Wicks to the Packers 41-yard line. The following play Aaron Jones would rumble for a nine-yard gain and have his facemask grabbed, tacking on an additional 15 yards to the Chargers’ 35-yard line. The Packers began working on the running game after this with Emmanuel Wilson taking two carries for nine yards before AJ Dillon pounded it up the middle for the first down. After this, though the Packers would only go backward with a false start call and then a bobbled snap on third down killing the drive. The Packers sent out Anders Carlson for a 52-yard field goal attempt but it would sail wide right, no good, keeping the score 10-7 Chargers with 7:16 remaining in the half.  

Starting out again with good field position for their fourth possession of the game the Chargers would take over at their own 42-yard line. On the first play from scrimmage Quay Walker and DeVondre Campbell would combine for a nice tackle for loss on Austin Ekeler pushing him back 2 yards and the Chargers wouldn’t recover from this as they would go three and out. A good response from the Packers' defense after the rough end to the offense’s previous drive forcing the punt with the Chargers having good starting field position.  

The Packers would take over at their own 19-yard line with 5:51 remaining in the first half after the punt. Malik Heath’s first NFL catch for 7 yards and 3-yard run by AJ Dillon would start the drive before things looked bleak and after a false start, the Packers faced 3rd and 12. The bleakness would subside though as Love found Reed up the middle for a 17-yard strike and the first down. The next play Aaron Jones took the ball for a 2-yard rush and was hurt on the play. Jones appeared to be in a lot of pain as trainers were looking at his lower body. He was later helped off the field by trainers and would not return to the game. Afterward, a Jayden Reed catch and an AJ Dillon run would take the clock to the two-minute warning with the Packers on the Chargers’ 43-yard line. A WR screen to Jayden Reed on second down would be taken 19 yards to the Chargers’ 24-yard line on the second play after the two-minute warning and a play later Emmanuel Wilson would take a 9-yard catch down to the 12. Unfortunately, Wilson appeared to injure his shoulder on the play. Not good at all after Jones went down to have one of your only two other active running backs go down. This would leave only AJ Dillon remaining if Wilson couldn’t continue, and he would not. After the injury, the first and second down plays were just ugly with a botched screen to AJ Dillon and what looked like a possible broken play-turned-scramble for Jordan Love before a Love pass to Christian Watson was caught in the endzone, but it was too far out of bounds and Watson couldn’t get his feet down in-bounds. This forced the Packers to settle for three as Anders Carlson drove through a 28-yard field goal to put the score 10-10.  

The Chargers would take over with 3 seconds remaining in the half and they would just take a knee to get us to halftime.  

Third Quarter:

The Chargers deferred the decision at the coin toss so they would receive the ball to start the half. It did not take long, as three plays in the Chargers were down to the Packers’ 38-yard line with two chunk passes and a run. On 3rd and 7 from the Packers’ 35-yard line, Justin Herbert would take off on a 28-yard scramble to the Packers’ 7-yard line. No one was keeping an eye on Herbert at all, and he almost walked right to the end zone. Fortunately, after a Keenan Allen drop on third down right on the goal line on third down, the Chargers would have to settle for three. Cameron Dicker put through the 26-yard attempt and the score would land at 13-10 Chargers with 10:44 remaining in the 3rd. The way the Chargers flew straight down the field, the Packers may have been a bit lucky that drive only ended in 3.  

After the post-score kickoff, the Packers would take over at their own 25 to start their first drive of the second half. After the first play of the drive seemed to be a failed flea flicker turned 5-yard loss to AJ Dillon, the Packers earned a first down on a 10-yard catch by Luke Musgrave and now Musgrave was hurting after the play being checked out. Musgrave would later return, and we’d see Christian Watson’s first true catch of the day with a 10-yard first down grab to the Chargers’ 42-yard line. Unfortunately, after a bit of positive play to the LA 34, the Packers went only backward as AJ Dillon would be dumped for a 4-yard loss on second down, and then Love would be sacked by Khalil Mack for an 11-yard loss on third down to knock the Packers out of field goal range and they’d be forced to punt.  

The Chargers would take over at their own 10-yard line with 4:07 remaining in the third. After Kingsley Enagbare would get a huge run stop in the backfield for –3 yards on second down, the Chargers wouldn’t recover and would take a big three and out. JK Scott would punt it away and the Packers would take over at their own 29-yard line after Keisean Nixon muffed the catch on the punt. Nearly a costly mistake but luckily Nixon was able to recover near the sidelines, crisis was averted. 

The Packers would take over with 2:25 left on the clock of the third quarter and start out with a huge throw up the middle for 26 yards to Dontayvion Wicks down to the Chargers’ 43-yard line. A play later Jordan Love hit Tucker Kraft for a 27-yard grab. Initially, it was ruled a touchdown, but Kraft had stepped out of bounds at the Charger 12, 1st, and 10. Two plays later, Love hits Christian Watson in the end zone wide open for the touchdown and a real Lambeau Leap this time after Kraft's was called back. Big relieving TD for Watson who’d struggled as of late. Unfortunately, we can’t have nice things though as Anders Carlson would miss the extra point putting the score at 16-13 Packers and after the kickoff, we’d see the end of the 3rd quarter.  

Fourth Quarter:

The Chargers would take over from their own 25-yard line and would immediately have a Herbert to Keenan Allen 38-yard wide-open strike taking the ball to the Packers’ 37-yard line. The next play Herbert would hit Parham for a 21-yard gain down to the Packers’ 16, and then again Herbert would hit Parham, this time for a 14-yard strike down to the Packers’ 2-yard line. When things looked bleak for the Packers, Austin Ekeler had the ball punched from his arms on second down by Kenny Clark and Rashan Gary recovered it. The Packers would take over at their own 6-yard line with 12:54 remaining in the game. Huge play by Kenny Clark to save what was a horrendous drive for the Packers’ defense. 

A first down off a five-yard pass to Romeo Doubs would get the Packers out of the danger zone to start. But, a pass over a wide-open Luke Musgrave and then a drop by Dontayvion Wicks would lead to third down where Love would face a lot of pressure and be called for intentional grounding pushing the Packers backward and forcing them to punt. Daniel Whelan would have to punt from his own end-zone and send a boomer 61 yards downfield and after only a 6-yard return, the Chargers would take over at their own 37. Big tackle by Zayne Anderson on the return and we finally find out that Anderson is indeed a real person! 

With 11:00 remaining the Chargers would take over and nearly faced a three and out before Herbert would hit Parham up the middle for a first down to the Packers’ 49-yard line. The Chargers would then have two first-down plays, taking it to the Packers’ 38 before Keisean Nixon nearly made an INT but Stone Smartt, the Chargers’ receiver, would be called for offensive pass interference pushing the Chargers back. But, it was too easy for the Chargers to recover as a pass to Allen and a Herbert scramble would take it to the Packers 22. A delay of game would push the Chargers backward once again, but Herbert would recover again on a scramble for the first down. The containment of Herbert in this game had been awful with him running for 53 yards to this point. Three plays later Herbert would hit Keenan Allen for a 10-yard touchdown on third down. The extra point would make it 20-16 Chargers with 5:24 remaining in the game. That missed extra point unfortunately looming for the Packers with them now needing a touchdown to win it.  

The Packers would take over with 5:24 remaining to get the ball down the field to the end zone. The drive would get off to a terrible start with a Christian Watson run only going for 1 yard and then the ball was stripped from Jordan Love but recovered by the Packers. On third down, Jordan Love missed Wicks up the middle, but DPI would be called, and the Packers would get a first down at their 39. On 2nd down, Love would hit Wicks with a short pass, but Wicks would escape the tackle and take off for a 36-yard gain down to the Chargers’ 26-yard line. Then on second down Jordan Love would hit Romeo Doubs with a great touchdown pass to take the lead 23-20 with 2:33 remaining on the clock. An outstanding pass by Love to get that TD and now it’s up to the defense to get this win.  

The Chargers went absolutely nowhere on their next drive but backward as two incompletions on first and second down led to a Rashan Gary sack on third down and Los Angeles had to punt it away with less than two minutes on the clock. A huge stop for the Packers’ defense, some complimentary football we’ve sorely lacked as of late.  

After the punt, the Packers would take over at their own 46-yard line with 1:47 on the clock and the Chargers having all three timeouts. The Packers would play it safe and run it three times with AJ Dillon to take away the Chargers’ timeouts before having to punt it away. The punt would unfortunately sail into the end-zone as the Chargers would take over at the 25 with 1:27 to go. 

With the game on the line, the Chargers started with a 6-yard grab and run out of bounds for Austin Ekeler. On 2nd down the snap was fumbled but the Chargers quickly recovered it and we hit 3rd down. The next play there would be an incomplete pass to Keenan Allen but Keisean Nixon would be called for DPI giving the Chargers the first down at the 26-yard line. A few plays later on third down Quentin Johnson would be near wide open as the pass would hit him in the hands in field goal range but he’d drop it forcing 4th down for the Chargers. Carrington Valentine was saved on this play as he was beaten by Johnson. On 4th and 6, Rashan Gary would jump offsides making it 4th and 1 for the Chargers. He seemed to get a little overzealous trying to get a good jump but luckily it didn't cost us too much as on the next play Kenny Clark batted back the Justin Herbert pass. Turnover on downs.

Taking over with 0:19 remaining, Jordan Love would kneel the ball sealing the Packers' 4th win of the season taking them to a 4-6 record with a final score of 23-20 Packers on top. 

Offensive Player of the Game:

This is a close one for me. But I'm giving it to Jayden Reed. His play in the first half electrified this team. He finished the game with 3 carries for 46 yards including a 32-yard touchdown on an end-around, and 4 catches for 46 yards as well. He is a very dynamic player that the Packers used well in this game. Jordan Love has to run a close second with his first 300+ yard game through the air, but Reed was the jolt of energy this team needed.

Defensive Player of the Game:

Another very close one for me, but I'm giving it to Rashan Gary. The fumble recovery with the Chargers knocking at the door at the Packers' two-yard line and then the sack of Justin Herbert to stifle their first comeback attempt was huge. Kenny Clark runs a close second being the one that forced that fumble that Gary recovered, and of course, his batted pass on the final play for the Chargers sealed it. But I'm giving Rashan Gary the honors in this game. 

What Went Right:

The passing game is improving. It's still not pretty, but Jordan Love had a good game. He needs to hit Luke Musgrave on that wide-open pass along the sidelines, but he seems to be a far cry from where he was a few weeks ago and I'll take it for now. 

Jayden Reed is a weapon. This guy is a dynamic Swiss-army knife and this game showed we made the right decision by being patient and nabbing him in the second round, I can't wait to see what his career holds. 

What Went Wrong:

Containment. How embarrassing is it for an opposing QB to run it 8 times for 73 yards? And it's not even a QB that is known for being mobile. The Packers need to keep their eye on Quarterbacks who could be a threat to run so they can minimize the impact. It seemed like they weren't expecting Herbert to even think about leaving the pocket. 

Jonathan Owens tackling. Enough patty-cake, you're last in the line of defense, tackle somebody already. 

Injuries. At the time I'm writing this Aaron Jones seems to have avoided long-term injury, but he'll still be missed moving forward. We'll need to sign a running back or two to the 53 on a short week's notice.

Looking Forward:

We've got turkey day football in just a few days. The Packers will head to Detroit to take on the Lions in the Lions' annual Thanksgiving Day game. In the early 2000s, it seemed like the NFL was trying to revive the Packers vs Lions Thanksgiving tradition. Between 2001 and 2013, the Packers had to visit Detroit on turkey day six times. But it's been ten years since that has happened, and I can't say I've complained. Many view it as an unbreakable tradition for the Lions to host on Thanksgiving, they've done it since 1934. But I wouldn't bat an eyelash if the NFL decided to begin removing that tradition and give other teams not located in Detroit or Dallas a shot at hosting on the holiday. The Lions of course are top of the division heading into this game and will be coming off their matchup with the Chicago Bears in Detroit. I can't say I'm excited about this one for multiple reasons. Those reasons include how badly we matched up against Detroit in week 4. But, it would make that turkey and dressing taste so much better if somehow we pull off a surprise victory. Speaking of that, Thursday's recap will be a little later than usual due to Thanksgiving festivities but fear not, I'll have you covered soon enough whether you have it to read before or right after you have your pumpkin pie. Until then my friends, Go Pack Go. 

 

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packer132's picture

November 19, 2023 at 04:42 pm

Not what you want, but I can't apologize for a win. On Paper, the Chargers had the better team. Most teams in the NFL are fairly even, and it often comes down to 3 or 4 plays to win. The defense did enough to hold the Chargers to 3 win it mattered. Good and bad from a young and improving team. When you hold a team to 20 points, your chances are often very good. Short week, but the Lions barely beat a poor Chicago team. A win against an 8-2 team would be huge for the future progress of the team. The second half of the season should bring a boost of optimism for Packers fans.

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Since'75's picture

November 19, 2023 at 04:49 pm

I have no clue how Detroit won, they had the ball for 19 some minutes, threw 3 interceptions, and scored 31 points?

How does that happen?...lol

I gotta check it out further.

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Minniman's picture

November 20, 2023 at 04:13 am

I just watched the extended highlights of the Lions-Bears game, and here's a couple of takes:

1) The Goff interceptions were what made this game close. Once Detroit respected the ball again, they ground Chicago down with good RB play and won. Joe - more 3 specialist DL packages and stop the run (I'll humor MLF here and his take on when LB's go hands down). 5 man fronts Joe.

2) Goff's connection with Amon-Ra is strong - he's his go-to guy down the seam or out breaking routes. Hopefully Jaire is OK, because someone needs to play man on him.

3) Detroit used that shovel pass to a WR in motion effectively 2 times.

4) Detroit love to do stunts with their DL and bring Aiden Hutchinson and Cominsky (ironically) out to in. Packers IOL will be tested all night (like they were in the last outing). Hutchinson leads the league in QB hurry's (18) and in part this is why (they also bring the LB's on these stunts too).

Love had better get the ball out fast and MLF had better get creative with the check-down and scramble plays or it's going to be a long night.

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Since'75's picture

November 20, 2023 at 07:23 am

It's just a strange day in the NFL when a team only has the ball for 19 and 1/2 minutes.
Throws 3 interceptions, and has 1 fumble lost, and still scores 31 points.

In hindsight, i'd like to watch that game.

Yea, i think the Lions are going to present more difficult challenges than the Charger defense.
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Looks like someone didn't like, or agree with my post....lol

Or, i have someone downvoting every post i make regardless.
If that is the case, i feel sorry for you.
You stay in anonymity shell, and go ahead and downvote.

I hope it makes you feel better in some way, it must.

Best wishes in achieving a life.

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Since'75's picture

November 19, 2023 at 04:44 pm

I just got 'chided' because somebody posing as the 'OPINION POLICE' doesn't think i'm enjoying the win enough for his taste, and he's none too happy about it damn it...lol.

So let me put this out there at no one in particular, but to the general public.
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Most fans don't hate the players, it isn't their fault
Do they put the roster together? NO

If anyone has a problem, it's with upper management.
That would be ME, and i give no **** if some of you can't handle that and you whine that we express our opinions about it.

I don't know if ya'll noticed, but a football forum is ALL about peoples 'OPINIONS'
If others don't like them or don't agree with them.
Well that just too damn bad. Isn't it?
I m not sure, but i think that's what the juvenile downvote is for.
OR....If you don't like something (we) i write, then i don't know...gee.. debate us (me) on it's merits? WOW, right?

I've been a Packer fan longer than a lot of you have been alive.
I really don't care what some of you think, and i never will.

Don't forget, we still live in America.
I'm not getting anyone's permission on what i can write, and what i can't write so your feelings don't get hurt.
Contact Nags and tell him your feelings are hurt, i don't care!!

Don't like our views, then don't read it. Simple.
But please children, stop whining about it.

Put on your big boy pants and deal with it.

None of you are the 'OPINION POLICE'.

Thank you for understanding.
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16 downvotes, and one person with enough brain power to say anything.

Children...lol

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 19, 2023 at 04:54 pm

But referring to another poster as "Princess" and your "Daddy"?

Not sure what kind of pants you're wearing, and your lifestyle is you your own business, but hey....live and let live I guess.

Personally, I enjoyed the game. Just my OPINION.

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Since'75's picture

November 19, 2023 at 05:05 pm

AWE:)
Are you going to be ok sweetheart?

Listen close cupcake....
If you talk to people like a B, you meet be talked to like a B.

Now.... quit trying to escalate this, we're trying to talk football in here, but obviously you're not happy unless your instigating conflict..

Now go have a cookie and try to calm down and relax.
Maybe you could stop the personal attacks.
JUST MY OPINION.

Have a nice day 🥱

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 19, 2023 at 05:16 pm

So...you've have now called me princess, cupcake, Daddy and sweetheart for simply suggesting you enjoy a Packers win. But I should "stop the personal attacks". LOL

You really are a hoot. Oops...is that a personal attack!!??

Look, I have no problem with you having Daddy issues. Not even sure how that came up or what the hell it has to do on this site. Like I said, there's help out there for you.

You have a nice day as well.

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Since'75's picture

November 19, 2023 at 06:27 pm

SIGH....

You also, i've had women less clingy than you,

Nothing personal, but can you find someone else to bother.

Thank you for understanding.

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 19, 2023 at 06:47 pm

I actually gave you a thumbs up for predicting a Packers win and Love's 1st 300 yd game. Then, after several negative comments on your part, I simply suggested you enjoy the win.

After that, a weird attack from you calling me weird names with even weirdo sexual innuendos. And, apparently it continues. You're the one who made this personal, not me. I never had an issue with you previously, nor do I care to moving forward.

I really don't care about your history with women or anyone else.

Thank you for understanding.

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Since'75's picture

November 20, 2023 at 07:15 am

You're welcome to keep copying my writings all you'd like.
If you like some of my lines, help yourself.

I'm a giver 😁

Thank you for understanding.

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 20, 2023 at 10:21 am

You STILL on here whining about a conversation that took place yesterday? Were you up all night stewing over it?
Obviously, I'm in your head but you need to learn how to let things go. It's not good for your mental health.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

November 19, 2023 at 06:08 pm

Sounds more like you’re the one with the hurt feelings. Lotta emotion in your post.

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Since'75's picture

November 19, 2023 at 06:34 pm

If you say so 😏

A lot of truth in my post also.

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Irelandseye's picture

November 19, 2023 at 07:19 pm

If you don’t like downvotes…

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Since'75's picture

November 20, 2023 at 09:43 am

...then don't say anything people construe as being negative?

It's a shame you've only posted 8 times in 5 years.

You seem very wise. 🙄
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Tundraboy's picture

November 19, 2023 at 04:45 pm

It may not have been pretty but they did some things today they haven't done in a long while. Most off all we learned exactly who should and who should not be playing as much. And the right way to use some of the bench people.

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Minniman's picture

November 20, 2023 at 04:43 am

I was happy that they kept the penalties down and Love stayed patient and didn't throw speculative balls.

regarding "And the right way to use some of the bench people." - I hope that they never match poor Malik Heath up to block a premier edge rusher again (like they did with Mack)!

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Packerpasty's picture

November 19, 2023 at 04:55 pm

Crabby guy..haha..perhaps the Packers put the nail in the coffin of Staley....hope so because Herbert deserves better...""
Asked after today's loss to the Packers whether the Chargers might have a change in their defensive play calling, Staley grew visibly angry as he told reporters to stop asking him that.
"You can stop asking that question. I'm going to be calling the defenses, so we're clear. So you don't have to ask that again," Staley said.
It's a valid question, though, because the Chargers' defense is struggling. Today against the Packers, the Chargers allowed quarterback Jordan Love to have perhaps the best game of his career, as Love threw for 322 yards and two touchdowns with no interceptions."" He's calling the 31st ranked D in the league..bye bye..

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Packerpasty's picture

November 19, 2023 at 04:56 pm

Clark caused the fumble down at the goal line and also batted the last gasp pass down today...id say he earned his pay...

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GregMeinholz's picture

November 19, 2023 at 06:16 pm

Haha not crabby at all, I’m loving the hell out of this win, just have to acknowledge that there were some aspects that weren’t as pretty.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 19, 2023 at 06:45 pm

no, im talking about Staley being the crabby guy...I would be too if I was him...he's toast..

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Since'75's picture

November 19, 2023 at 06:38 pm

I could be wrong pasty, but i thought i heard that Staley has been calling the defensive sets.

If true, don't know for how long.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 19, 2023 at 06:46 pm

he does...and not for long I bet...maybe the rest of the season maybe not..

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Im Fubared's picture

November 19, 2023 at 09:45 pm

Ya he sounded like he was hearing the voice of "your fired" on Monday?

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croatpackfan's picture

November 19, 2023 at 05:10 pm

"He needs to hit Luke Musgrave on that wide-open pass along the sidelines, but he seems to be a far cry from where he was a few weeks ago and I'll take it for now."

Go and watch that pass again. Luke Musgrave slowed down turning his head to see if ball is coming and that is why pass looked overthrown. Luke Musgrave have to learn to catch the ball in the stride, not to turning his whole body to the incoming ball and than to turn to the end zone and start to run. Kraft is not as fast as Musgrave, but he catched the ball oin stride and makes opponents to miss their blocks and tackles on him. I believe that Tucker Kraft will be much better security option for Packers QBs than Luke Musgrave. Musgrave will be deep threat than Kraft.

You gave us good recap, but I would add one thing in the "what went wrong" part - Elgton Jenkins played his the most miserable game at the position of LG from the time he came to Packers. He is directly responsible for 2 Jordan Love sacks and 2 tackles for loss suffered by AJ and Wilson.

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murf7777's picture

November 19, 2023 at 05:29 pm

I’m with you Croat…..I really liked Kraft coming our of college. I hope they both turn out to be difference makers at the TE position. That would be exciting for years to come.

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Coldworld's picture

November 19, 2023 at 09:46 pm

Kraft has more nimble feet. That’s going to help him a lot as he gets more up to speed. He’s improved more than most, if from a lower start.

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GregMeinholz's picture

November 19, 2023 at 06:24 pm

My comments often come from real-time view and sometimes I might miss a replay or two as I’m jotting down notes so I must’ve missed Musgrave slowing up on that one if he did. I’ll have to track that replay down.

And yeah you’re right on Jenkins, not a pretty one for him at all.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 19, 2023 at 06:38 pm

Thanks for replying! As I already wrote, you gave us very good overview of the game. Yes, there were some unprecise throws from Jordan, but taking in consideration that QBs have to throw often with anticipation, it is easy to miss small, but important reaction of every player. I noticed that little slowing down because I already noticed that Musgrave do not catch the throws in stride, but turning to the ball to catch. His stumbling after catch is the product of that manner.

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Since'75's picture

November 19, 2023 at 06:43 pm

Yea croat...

That could have been a big gainer for Musgrave, maybe 6.

It instantly reminded me about MVS, Rodgers would also over throw him sometimes, he would slow down so much when he turned his head to track the ball.

Not sure if MVS has overcome that, but i think it happens to a lot of receivers.

I'm no expert, but that sounds like something that needs to be coached out of some players.

Maybe have them run 40 or 50 yard dashes looking backward the whole time, to get that stride and muscle memory, idk.

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aberk's picture

November 19, 2023 at 09:12 pm

If Love can consistently throw over the receivers heads maybe Musgrave wouldn't be looking behind him

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Minniman's picture

November 20, 2023 at 04:49 am

You do have a point re Love under-throwing the ball - and I think that he seems to be addressing it (at least he did better in this game).

This allows the receiver to eliminate one of the misses.

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Malland56's picture

November 19, 2023 at 07:32 pm

A few of those passes including the touchdown to Romeo Doubs in the endzone were some absolute dimes. Love is showing he still can make those great throws, he just needs to do it more often.

Yes! And do it with more consistency. Missing Musgrave running down sidelines WIDE open and over throwing him sucked. Looked like he was going full speed to me. He wasn't even being pressured. Commentator for the game even showed that he didn't have his foot planted right. Also this was another long pass to an open receiver by at least three steps that he has missed. I believe in him but missing these wide open receivers down field has to stop! He makes maybe one a game and misses the others if it happens.

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Grimm's picture

November 19, 2023 at 09:02 pm

I am hoping someone here can explain this too me, Iv never noticed this before todays game.

After the game I went back and watched Garys offsides and thought the right guard was moving. The angle was not real good, so I went back and watched a bunch of plays of the Chargers right guard. On every play, he is looking over his shoulder and then leans into his stance and is waving his hand in what looks like a signal to snap the ball. I tend to think that is what caused Gary to jump. if you did not notice this go back and watch some plays.

It always seemed to me, that if an O-line man as much as blinks, they call a false start. Why is it OK for the Guard to reach out and wave his arm before the ball was snapped?

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Im Fubared's picture

November 19, 2023 at 10:03 pm

Ya I saw that too but the ref didnt

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Packerpasty's picture

November 20, 2023 at 10:55 am

these "offsides" calls seem to be the thing to call lately...maybe a new emphasis on it for some reason but all games have questionable calls of offsides now...

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Im Fubared's picture

November 19, 2023 at 09:51 pm

I've beaten Love like a mule on this site but today was his best effort to date. I still have two big issues with him and any other QB trying to play in the NFL. He has that narrow vision of pre focusing on who he is going to throw to rather then wait till the play develops, read the d and make the right throw. Too many interceptions doing that. Second his deep passes are dam inaccurate thus he has no long game defenses need to worry about which brings the safeties up to stop the short game and pass rush. But I'll give his this today he won.
Thought the D looked good. Nice game.
PS: Douglas and Amos had big games today for someone else. But that's Gutt's draft and development plan of preparing people to play elsewhere well.

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HarryHodag's picture

November 20, 2023 at 08:36 am

I can remember the 1960's Packers vs. Lions Thanksgiving games. Those games were brutal. I think it was in one of those games when Alex Karras pile drove Bart Starr and knocked him out of the game. They didn't play patty-cake with quarterbacks like they do now, not that I want to see them hurt. The NFL knows there aren't enough good qb's to fill 32 teams so they're protecting them more to keep up the quality of the product.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

November 20, 2023 at 09:06 am

I'll take that win any day and I welcome any help from the Chargers with receivers making drops and any other mistakes which contributed to the victory. The only analogy that quickly comes to mind for me in my older age is comparing a day on the golf course to a trip to the dentist. Today, Monday, is going to be a win for me, but tomorrow I have a loss coming at 8am. It's hard to win every time.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

November 20, 2023 at 09:10 am

"Game Recap: It wasn't pretty, but a win's a win"

Football ain't no beauty contest and at the end of the year, most of the people looking at the win/loss column and the teams in the playoffs won't remember if a game was "Pretty" or "Ugly".

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Jam2's picture

December 15, 2023 at 04:13 am

It feels like the only two teams that can stop the 49ers are injuries and themselves. With all the weapons on offense they have you can't bottle them all up, and CMC is as consistently good as they come.

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