Cory's Corner: The Answer To Bakhtiari Is Honesty

The Packers have to ask themselves who they truly are before asking an all-time great to rework his deal. 

Aaron Jones restructured his deal. 

David Bakhtiari is next. 

Now I know that there are folks that are on the fence of even bringing the 31-year-old back to Green Bay. 

And yes, I was probably riding on that same fence earlier this season. Bakh has had three knee surgeries for a torn ACL in 2020. He then missed all of 2021 and the first two games of 2022. His knee situation is a huge question mark and then added on to that is the fact that Bakhtiari had an appendectomy this past December.

But despite all of his setbacks, Bakhtiari registered a remarkable season. His passing blocking remains off the charts. He only allowed 10 hurries. The two red marks against him were that his run blocking was a little down and he was called for five penalties, his most since being called for 11 in 2019. 

Basically, the Packers have to look themselves in the mirror and find out where the expectations lie. Do they expect to compete for NFC titles and Super Bowls or is this the next chapter of the Green Bay Packers?

If this team still has designs on competing for Super Bowl titles, then Bakhtiari has to be included. Not just because he’s an incredible offensive line talent at the most important position, but he’s an invaluable leader that has been named to two All-Pro teams and has responded to varying setbacks. 

I can understand why people want Bakhtiari out of Green Bay. He’s older and he has an injury history that is more detailed than the Farmer’s Almanac. 

But if, and I mean if, the Packers still think they can compete in the NFC, keeping Bakhtiari is the answer. The pros outweigh the cons and with the Packers offensive line already being as deep as can be, the injury bug shouldn’t be that big of a worry. 

The answer to this equation is honesty. The Packers need to be honest with who they are and who they want to be. The Packers can easily compete in a diluted NFC. The only question is, do they believe it?

 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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HarryHodag's picture

February 25, 2023 at 06:41 am

We all know Bakhtiari's abilities. When healthy he's among the best in the league. But the Packers have paid him handsomely and through no fault of his own they've had him on the sidelines. I don't think it's out of bounds to ask him to help the team get under the cap and get paid according to what he has done. If he can get through next season without being out for an extended time, then offer him a chance to again get his money back.
Guaranteed money in professional football is a big risk. We've all seen why owners are very reluctant to get into that. Players need to be compensated for their abilities, not more, not less.

Asking him to redo his contract--assuming it will give him more money now--is not a big ask.

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dobber's picture

February 25, 2023 at 08:45 am

"I don't think it's out of bounds to ask him to help the team get under the cap and get paid according to what he has done."

This is a dicey trap--guessing whether you're paying a guy for what he'll be over the course of the deal or whether you're paying for who he was. The failed Jason Spriggs experiment really pushed the Packers into a corner on Bakhtiari, and after a second contract where he was a steal, paid up big time on the third.

I can go either way on Bakh. He has value both on the market and to the Packers. Since his deal signed, and due to Covid, the Packers have gone back to the Bakhtiari bank time and again to find cap relief...all on a guy who for most of that time couldn't play. As noted, a rebuild means he's not likely part of the next Packers' window, and value recouped now pays dividends down the line.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 25, 2023 at 04:26 pm

Mentioning the Spriggs experiment renders images of a meth lab blowing up. If in their wildest dreams, they believed Spriggs could supplant Bhaktiari in his prime, something ain't right in the kitchen. Another four pick wasted in the process. Maybe they finallly figured out guys who played O line since middle school make better linemen than TE conversions in the Pros.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

February 25, 2023 at 09:54 am

Harry, If you want any Packer players to help out a with the cap and take a little less money, perhaps the first place you should look is at Mr. $59 Million.

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HarryHodag's picture

February 25, 2023 at 12:53 pm

Agreed. But asking His Darkness to do so would cause a crap storm of biblical proportions. I think it would expedite things if Matt LF named Love the starter and if Rodgers wants to come back he can backup Love. He'll either retire or move on at that point.

Ted Thompson had the guts to do it. We'll see if this group does or not.

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Packerpasty's picture

February 25, 2023 at 04:47 pm

Hahahaha...you funny...soft-ass MLF having the balls to actually do that!!!!! Wow fantasy runs deep on CHTV..

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 25, 2023 at 11:39 am

He earned His contracts based on His performance. The inherent Risk is always an injury. They purchase Insurance to protect some of the shared risk and have the write-offs on the Ledger. If you move Bhaktiari for crumbs, you better secure a blue chip from the high rounds and Hope he can play the position. When you have a guy on either flank who requires Help from a TE or RB chipping the attacker, you lose another threat to the defense and become out-manned. He looked to be in form when he resumed his spot at LT. He will do a Refi and will not stress the nemesis known as the CAP.

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HarryHodag's picture

February 25, 2023 at 12:55 pm

No one disputes he earned the whopper of a contract he has now. The issue is whether he's lived up to the contract through no fault of his own.
I'm not confident his knee will hold up. One more injury and the Packers are holding a large contract for a number of years with nothing in return.
I do think drafting a tackle should be a priority, especially give Nijman's status and DB's questions regarding his health.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 25, 2023 at 01:17 pm

I have OT or Edge as the # one pick for the Pack. Two O linemen at minimum to rebuild the right flank. He will refi at a fair rate. There will be language to protect Packertown, LLC via game day bonuses, incentive clauses et.al. Not a big deal. The blindspot is protected.

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mrtundra's picture

February 25, 2023 at 07:28 am

Does anyone here know if Bakh wants to stay in GB? I mean, if Rodgers leaves, for what ever reason, would Bakh stay? IMO, he's the best LT in the game. I think a lot of what happens with this team, will be in the event that Rodgers leaves it.

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pantz_bURp's picture

February 25, 2023 at 07:42 am

Not sure MrT...if Bakh wants to follow #12, let him. I want people on the team who want to be Packers. If Green Bay, WI or the team as it stands isn't a good fit for them, that is their decision and they have that right.

*A big gamble due to his talent and injuries.

The decision should not be tied with #12's decision IMO. (regarding the front office). Did #4 ever try to get others to follow him? I honestly don't know.

Now is the time to open the door and see who wants to stay and who wants to go. It could be ugly or beautiful...

Interesting and wild times

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stockholder's picture

February 25, 2023 at 07:37 am

Seniority doesn't rule on the football field.
The packers didn't pay for a broken LT.
And Gutey really put friend against friend here.
The Cap was the dividing mechanism.
And it's time for a fresh start, for all parties.
We need space. And while his position is vital.
The revolving door behind him, showed just enough.
Nobody likes change. And while friendship has its place.
It would be best to get what Bahk is worth.
Maybe not for Rodgers. But for everyone else.
My hope is Rodgers and Bahk see the business side.
It's nothing personal.

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dobber's picture

February 25, 2023 at 08:18 am

Ah, inconsistency, thy name is stockholder.

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Coldworld's picture

February 25, 2023 at 07:50 am

We all know that Bakh is a premier LT at least going in to this season. We don’t know how long he can remain that and healthy. As such his value is now probably at its highest.

What we do not have is a realistic reason to support us contending unless you simply don’t see issues with the coaching or with this roster, no cap and a 40 this year QB or a guy who has never started with his own game plan.

Bakh is a guy who would have strong value now to a team who looks set to seriously contend. He’s not certain to be around or as good when we are likely to be in that position.

Finally, we all know we are cap broke. We also have players who have played LT effectively. There is a plausible argument that what trading Bakh would bring in cap relief could allow a vet TE/S/DL etc who could actually help Rodgers team more, especially after June 1. If it’s Love’s team, then let youth grow with him, use the cap elsewhere and use the picks to bolster our young core for the future.

At some point we can’t keep everyone and shouldn’t. That’s the knee jerk reaction for anyone good, but retention Carries a cost, here cap and picks we could particularly benefit from at this juncture and also time for Tom, Nijman, Jenkins, Walker and or Jones to play and develop for the future alongside the likes of Watson, Doubs and this years’ draft picks. With a Bakh trade, maybe we can get a shot at a Johnston or Branch and other wish list difference makers.

I’m for the trade: pre June for picks or post it for cap primarily is merely a tactical decision. I would not touch his deal as a result. Trading him is simply the better option if you don’t see a cat in hells chance of a Super Bowl this year with the current outfit and situation. It’s time to move on, look to the next 3-5 years not the last. It’s time to realize some value while it’s still there. There is some honesty.

We need more of that in Lambeau in my opinion. Many have become so entitled they seem to think the good times will inevitably return on their own without hard choices. No, they will not, especially with that attitude. This is part of the downside of that but the upside is the chance to progress in the medium term. Complacency is fatal. We are drowning in it.

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Turophile's picture

February 25, 2023 at 07:54 am

Bakh's cap numbers suggests to me he will be here for 2023 and gone after that. As for his level of play post ACL, its fine.

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LambeauPlain's picture

February 25, 2023 at 08:26 am

I would agree that is likely. I like to rewatch games and focus on the blocking and tackling. David played several games in the last half of the season that were of the "lock down" variety. Back to being The Wall.

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Ridgeway_nut's picture

February 25, 2023 at 08:10 am

For me, the real question is, if they keep Bahk, how many games can they realistically expect him to play in the regular season? I'd say a minimum of 75%. If that isn't realistic, then how can GB pay him top end level money? An honest assessment of his health is the starting point for any decision. I would try to see if he has any trade value and move on.

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PatrickGB's picture

February 25, 2023 at 08:11 am

If a team has a premier LT, then that’s better than having players in most other positions. The team might not be, even, considering this if Rodgers had not been sucking up so much of the cap space.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 25, 2023 at 01:21 pm

When you negotiate a salary or wage rate, do you ask for Less?

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PatrickGB's picture

February 25, 2023 at 03:05 pm

Good point. I would never slam a player for wanting more. However, I might blame the boss if it puts the company in distress.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 25, 2023 at 04:17 pm

Indeed, they made the offer. If they Plan to keep Him, they will refi the Deal. Give him a Brady annuity.

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LambeauPlain's picture

February 25, 2023 at 08:15 am

If Love is the QB, having one of the best LTs in the NFL protecting his left flank, makes Jordan's learning curve less steep.

And David is a core leader on the team and for the O. I think he is one of the most important players on the roster. I would like to see him back and maybe he is willing to restructure.

If Rodgers' tour in the dark convinced him to play for the Packers next year...then the cap puts Bahkt's 2023 cost back in the decision tree.

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PeteK's picture

February 25, 2023 at 08:55 am

I agree LP. We are also in a transition year with parts of our O line, so let's se how it plays out with Bak . If we want to release Bak, next year is the time as his cap decrease from 23 mill to 11.

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Packerpasty's picture

February 25, 2023 at 04:50 pm

why should his learning curve be steep in the first place...hasnt he been around the playbook long enough by now...

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ImaPayne2's picture

February 25, 2023 at 08:26 am

I say trade him if he refuses a pay cut. Football is a business, can't run a buddy system for past performance. He never should have gotten the money he did. KC has the best online in football and none of those guys gets bahks money.
The pack problem again this year, too many holes to fill, not enough picks and zero free agent money. thus bahk leaves a hole for sure

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dobber's picture

February 25, 2023 at 08:55 am

"But if, and I mean if, the Packers still think they can compete in the NFC, keeping Bakhtiari is the answer. The pros outweigh the cons and with the Packers offensive line already being as deep as can be, the injury bug shouldn’t be that big of a worry. "

The Packers need to be just as honest with themselves about that OL depth you're talking about. Just how deep are they? Just how good is that depth? Even moreso--making sure that the top of that depth chart is competitive against quality defensive fronts. It's one thing to have a room full of guys you like, but another thing to have top end talent in that room.

If BG/Stenvich/Butkus/LaF can honestly say that they have that quality in reserve--and be right--then judging the market and moving Bakhtiari is a no-brainer.

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Coldworld's picture

February 25, 2023 at 10:28 am

If we keep Rodgers, then Bakh stays and plays this year. Whether it is a good idea is immaterial, that’s just a virtual certainty of a pairing. The next year we start this all over again, if the resulting team is not terrible.

If Rodgers goes, the fact that Bakh is our best LT is not an argument for keeping him. Love won’t have him by the time he develops into a QB capable of contending. If Love doesn’t, even more so his successor. Love needs to start with us giving our best younger prospects time to learn and grow on the Line and find out if they can carry our QB over the coming years.

In the interim, extra cap and picks could really help improve other positions and depth as well as speeding cap recovery next year. Bakh’s trade value is unlikely to rise and could fall dramatically. It’s time to look at this as an overall team strength question in the context of the next 3 to 5 years. We are not doing that if we keep Rodgers. If we go with Love, we’ve no excuse not to be thinking that way.

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PackyCheese500's picture

February 25, 2023 at 09:14 am

Just in…the Packers restructures Jaire Alexander and Preston Smith.

Are they planning to r/s Bakhtiari as well?

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Coldworld's picture

February 25, 2023 at 09:59 am

Pushing more and more cap forward through 2026 to get us under and 10 plus million more for this year. That’s about enough to sign draft picks and in season needs if I recall TGR accurately. It might mean we don’t have to touch Bakh’s deal to further mortgage the future. More flexibility is good for this year, but it was almost inevitable that the future was going to pay some how.

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CoachJV's picture

February 25, 2023 at 09:24 am

I believe either Nijman or Tom can handle the LT responsibilities just fine... Bak is an old and expensive risk. And he did NOT come back to form. He's still good at pass blocking, but he left much to be desired in the run game that we employ half of the time.

Just like AR... Trade him for whatever we can get and move on.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 25, 2023 at 09:47 am

Nothing good happens on offense unless people get blocked, and Bakhtiari is one of the best blockers on the team, whether we’re contending or not. It is better, imo to keep him on the team this season.

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Coldworld's picture

February 25, 2023 at 10:02 am

He is currently our best LT, but I disagree that keeping him is the best move for the future of Love you have promised.

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CoachJV's picture

February 25, 2023 at 10:48 am

Gotta disagree... he's one of the best PASS blockers on the team... he severely regressed in RUN blocking. He can't plant on that knee. We run half the time... so he's only worth half the money. Trade him to a pass-happy team with no RB and he'll be a star again.

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Bitternotsour's picture

February 26, 2023 at 01:46 pm

he is the best pass blocking LT in football. his get off is unbelievable. even after injury. the big question is availability. i think, post surgeries, he's going to be a force again. honestly, there are older tackles in the league who are getting it done at a high level.

the replacements are competent, not world beaters. Bakh is a world beater.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 25, 2023 at 10:15 am

Well, we'll have to disagree. I think Bakhtiari, this year, is worth more than any draft pick or cap savings we might get for moving him. There are plenty of things a new QB has to worry about, and his blindside shouldn't be one of them.

2024, I'll have a different opinion. Right now, I want the strongest line I can put on the field, and that would include Bakhtiari.

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vin0770's picture

February 25, 2023 at 12:17 pm

And how many games is he going to play and at a high price? He’s started the back side of his career with a fixed injury that somehow hasn’t worked…sorry but get what you can and someone else becomes next.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 26, 2023 at 10:32 am

Vin, we’re going to pay him a lot of money whether he’s playing for us, or somebody else, or not playing at all. We owe him $22 million.

The best play here, imo, is to pay him and hope he stays healthy this year. Next year, he’ll only be $11 million in dead cap……but $20 million in salary and roster bonus. IMO, again, it would be better to play Bakhtiari to play this year.

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dobber's picture

February 26, 2023 at 10:46 am

I can see advantages to his staying and his being dealt. I understand concerns about his knee, but at his age and contract, his practice snaps would likely be managed anyway. I don't think his previous injuries will likely limit his game time. I don't think you take a used jugs machine in return--the price needs to be right because the cap savings are only so-so.

...but the Packers haven't touched his contract, yet, despite a bonus they could guarantee without his consent (if they were set on keeping him and making more space). I agree with the sentiment that this is signaling a desire to keep their options open.

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EricinGB's picture

February 25, 2023 at 10:20 am

The importance of offensive tackles can be seen in QB play and QB injuries. Brock Purdy looked great until SF played the Eagles and Purdy took a fatal hit. Rodgers had 2 MVP season when he knew is blind side was rock solid - this mean he only had to worry about the middle and right side rush which he could still see while looking down field. Prediction: if Rodgers stays, so will Bak. If Rodgers goes, so will Bak. It's as simple as that.

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Savage57's picture

February 25, 2023 at 10:55 am

Bakh was out for all but 20 snaps in Rodgers' second MVP season.

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Coldworld's picture

February 25, 2023 at 11:22 am

Something now simply disregarded.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 25, 2023 at 02:24 pm

His second MVP would have been the 2014 campaign. Bhak started 16/16 games.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 26, 2023 at 08:44 am

Pretty sure he meant in AR's last two MVP seasons... (But you knew that too...)

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 25, 2023 at 11:07 am

I see both sides of this argument. If the FO runs it back, Bakhtiari will be our LT, IMO. If in fact AR12 decides to retire (doubtful) or be traded, my advice would be to restructure Bakh, keep him until at least the trade deadline. If he's still playing at the highest of levels, and we're relatively healthy on the OL, we could explore trading him at the deadline to an AFC team.

If Love plays as well as I think he can, we may be playing for the division or a playoff spot and may need Bakh to get us there. If something stupid were to happen and we're not in a position to contend at the deadline, we could always find a trade partner then if we wanted to.

It may also depend on if another team makes Gutey an offer he can't refuse for Bakh before the draft? IDK who that would be, but if Cincy or Chargers or someone were to make such an offer, it would be difficult to turn down, especially if AR12 does leave. Nijman or Tom at LT might be nearly as good as a 32 year old Bakh, with a more mobile QB in Love taking snaps.

Either way, we get compensation for Bakh or we have a franchise LT, which in the scheme of things is the least of our worries, at least for this season.

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Coldworld's picture

February 25, 2023 at 11:20 am

That’s a pretty good argument. It’s possible I’m underestimating Love’s first season upside. Your approach does cover that.

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BirdDogUni's picture

February 26, 2023 at 09:16 am

I think a lot of people are underestimating Love's first season upside. If AR12 leaves via a trade, Love will be the starter, much like Rodgers was in 2008... He will have the whole team behind him, it will be his 4th year in the league and he's not stupid. (At least I don't think he is...)

He won't be shell shocked like a rookie David Carr in Houston. He's has albeit little, some game experience. We witnessed him getting the ball out quickly against the Eagles. I believe with the right coaching, at least the minimum of scheming guys open, Love can throw guys open and not have to hold on to the ball for 4 seconds or more every pass play.

I started some games my Freshman year, but we were running the Full-House T with 3 stud RBs, so when I did throw, guys were usually wide open. My Sophomore season, we ran the I formation, because we really didn't have the studs at RB spot anymore. I remember Dad (who was our HC) had a stop watch that preseason. When we called a pass play, if the ball was still in my hands at 4 - seconds, he'd stop everything and ream me out.

Back then we had two TEs & a Wingback out in the patterns, and maybe sometimes a RB. The QB (me) was supposed to have the ball out before the receivers made their break. I can't imagine holding on to the ball the way AR12 does.

I can't imagine Tom Clements or MaLF Coaching Jordan Love to hold on to the ball either. I do expect Love to get the ball out on time, in rhythm, and hitting or throwing open WRs, TEs, and RBs.

Now, I'm just a guy sitting in my Poker Room with two large computer monitors, a TV on the wall, three little ankle biting dogs my wife saved, a gray kitten my neighbor saved and gave to my wife, who I take care of, so I don't imagine I'm the best person to evaluate Jordan Love or his readiness to lead an NFL organization.

But I am confident from what I've seen in his overall progression, that if MaLF can design enough plays to get guys in the right position, scheming them open so Love can get the ball out quickly, I have no doubts in my mind, Jordan Love could efficiently run that offense.

He has the arm talent. He seems to have the poise. He seems to understand the route concepts. That hole shot he threw to Aaron Jones against the Eagles was one of the best throws I've seen in the last 20 years. It was a shame AJ seemed to be in mid-stride and awkwardly reached up for it and dropped it, because it was a beauty of a throw.

IDK what will happen, and it will probably be exactly the opposite of what I would like to see, but in my perfect world, Gutey trades AR12, Drafts all offense with 4 of his first 5 picks, and Jordan Love is surrounded with more weapons and OL than AR12 ever was...

(Now it won't happen for certain, since I've typed it out, but we can hope...)

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MooPack's picture

February 26, 2023 at 11:07 am

Panther Football?

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wildbill's picture

February 25, 2023 at 12:33 pm

For those wanting to trade Bakh I would venture that only a playoff caliber team would be a willing trade partner. Which means whatever draft pick you would acquire would be in the very last of that round. So a 2nd would be so late in that round it carry’s about the same weight as an early 3rd. LT is paid handsomely cause it’s that important of a position.
If we keep him one more year his trade value will decrease further but he might show a full recovery and be worth what’s left of his contract. It’s always a gamble with players after an ACL injury

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LeotisHarris's picture

February 25, 2023 at 01:49 pm

I'd like to see the Packers restructure and keep Bahk. Bird makes good points about options created once 69 is in on the roster at a salary commensurate with his current contributions to the team.

My challenge with Cory's premise is that somehow the Green Bay Packers will develop an identity as a team, and that will lead to the ability to make honest assessments of scheme, players, etc. That will be an uphill slog at best if 12 remains on the team. I don't see how an organization, coaching staff, and team can continue to tiptoe around a giant ego and be honest at the same time. Aaron (loved Harry referring to him as "His Darkness") ain't what he used to was and needs to go if the Packers are to find their identity.

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Gman1976's picture

February 25, 2023 at 02:50 pm

I suspect is that Bakh will be better this year since he will be another year removed from his injury. He was really slow to recover, but it was obvious that the offense was much better when he was on the field. If he is putting in the work, his run blocking will improve and the left side of our line should be stellar. He is only 31 years old so he should have at about 4 more good years before his play drops off.

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PhantomII's picture

February 26, 2023 at 11:27 am

Bak plays 75% of plays= reduce his pay to 75% of what it was in a restructure.

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Leatherhead's picture

February 26, 2023 at 01:27 pm

You don’t get it, do you? We owe him $22 million whether he plays for us, or someone else, or is hurt and not playing. We can’t reduce that.

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PhantomII's picture

February 26, 2023 at 02:27 pm

I'm reading saving 17.5 mill w/ a post june 1 cut???

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LLCHESTY's picture

February 26, 2023 at 06:11 pm

It's not saved, just passed on til next year. The total savings either way is $8 million(actually OTC has it at $5.7 million). Since the cap cost is $22 million spread out over one year or two I'd rather see them keep him. Next year is a different story if he's injured or suddenly ineffective.

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LLCHESTY's picture

February 26, 2023 at 06:17 pm

I wrote this on another site but Trent Williams was traded to the 49ers at the same age that Bakhtiari is now. Who do you think got the better of that deal?

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