Cory's Corner: Pay Cut Or No Pay Cut?

Aaron Jones is the engine for the Packers offense. Is it fair to expect him to take a pay cut?

If a player has a career year, is it fair to expect them to take a pay cut?

That’s a conundrum the Packers face with running back Aaron Jones. The sixth-year pro set a career high in rushing yards with 1,121. He had 31 rushes of 10 yards or more — good for seventh in the NFL. 

“We expect to have him back,” said Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst last week. “For a guy his size, to bring it every day, he rarely misses a practice, rarely misses a rep. The way he leads that football team, his consistency is amazing.”

I’ve said it before the season and I will reiterate it: Jones is the engine for the Packers offense. He is the dynamic weapon that every team covets in today’s NFL. A speedy playmaker that can beat you by running or receiving. 

Jones has a cap hit of $20 million in 2023. With Aaron Rodgers set to make $31.6 million, David Bakhtiari set to make $29 million and Kenny Clark set to make $23.9 million, the Packers will be forced to make some tough decisions. 

But for as much as Jones shouldn’t be expected to take a pay cut at arguably one of the most physical positions in the game, the Packers might be the best spot for him. The pre-snap motion is perfect for Jones. Coach Matt LaFleur does a great job of hiding Jones and making sure he gets the ball in space. 

It also helps that he gets to do the yin and yang with AJ Dillon, who is another versatile threat, but adds a different dimension to this offense. 

LaFleur came to Green Bay with the vision of turning Green Bay into a run-first offense and using Rodgers’ play-action wizardry as a threat to help the running game even more. Now, obviously that didn’t help that much this season because Jones had 15 or more carries only five times this season. 

“Anytime Aaron Jones comes out of the game with eight touches, that’s not good enough,” LaFleur said after the 23-7 loss to Minnesota in Week 1. 

Jones just turned 28 in December and even if he does take a pay cut to help the team out, what is the team going to do to help him? The first person opposing defenses have to stop is Jones because he has a Rollodex of ways that he can beat you. 

What did we learn from the Packers this year? We learned that you need legitimate weapons to move the football in a league that continues to stress speed as quarterbacks and receivers can be barely bumped or hit. 

That’s why Jones staying in green and gold is absolutely essential. What he brings to Green Bay is something that you cannot measure. It opens up the play-actions, the passing game and the running plays to Dillon. 

It’s not fair to expect a pay cut after a career season, but if saving a few dollars means the possibility of playoff wins, then by all means, it’s worth the trade off. 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 17, 2023 at 06:43 am

As a fan, I want AJ back. He was the MVP of the offense this year.

If I was AJ, I might consider a pay cut if #12 first took a sizable slice after his '22 performance.

But if not, get paid as agreed or move on.

AJ in his prime and owns a great resume of production, even with MLF giving him limited touches. He will be an attractive FA with all his skills and high character.

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Guam's picture

January 17, 2023 at 08:49 am

Spot on LP. It is laughable to suggest Jones take a pay cut when the Rodgers is the real cap problem. Rodgers will be the highest paid player in the league next year and yet will likely perform at an average NFL QB level or worse depending on his physical decline. Jones will likely perform much closer to his pay level than Rodgers.

Cory got the right article, but the wrong guy. The Packers should be talking to Rodgers about a pay cut.

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Swisch's picture

January 17, 2023 at 03:26 pm

With Jones just turning 28 in December, extend him an extra season so that the next two years total $30 million -- or an average of $15 million per year -- and in the process lessen the cap hit for this upcoming season.
If Rodgers would take a modest salary cut, say $5 million, then it would seem to be really helpful in signing other players. I don't see that happening, however, and perhaps the best we could hope for is him taking a restructured deferral.
I'd move on from Rodgers, but it seems the Packers' bigwigs want him back -- so let's do the best we can with what we got.
Jones and Crosby are true pros and point producers to keep for 2023.

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NickPerry's picture

January 17, 2023 at 06:48 am

Aaron Jones is one of my favorite players and is one Packers I would have loved to see start and end his career in Green Bay. Jones IS a Green Bay Packer. He obviously loves the Packers and the fans. But in todays games what should happen isn't always what happens.

IMO had Brian Gutekunst been given the SAME opportunity that Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson had, I think Jones would have retired a GBP without a doubt. A nice reminder of Ted's abilities to pick an absolute STEAL in the 4th and 5th rounds of the NFL draft. But Gute hasn't been afforded the same opportunities. Nope, Gute and Packers Nation have had to put up with Mark Murphy's NEED to be Jerry Jones (Without all the money) and muck it all up.

AS much as I hate to say it, I'd trade Aaron Jones. He had a great season, he has NEVER been over used, and someone would give up a decent draft pick for Jones. The Packers need picks, but they also need to dump high cap numbers. It starts with Jones which sucks. Our job as fans is we make sure EVERYBODY knows it was Murphy's fault!

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thequick12's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:17 am

They are going to restructure his contract in order to save about 8 million against the cap. He will not be asked to take a pay cut. His base salary and roster bonus will simply be changed to signing bonus

I too have thought about trading Jones though. Love the player but he's approaching 30 and he would fetch some good draft capital. Im torn between keeping Jones and trading him to select Bijan Robinson to be the next lighting to Dillons thunder

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wildbill's picture

January 17, 2023 at 11:07 am

Love Jones but his fumbles have really cost us in two playoff losses. Great player and person but to keep him we would be kicking even more money to the future and not sure if that is smart

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Johnblood27's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:59 am

Sorry.... not sorry!

Murphy is at the root of all the Green Bay Packers on-field woes. HE NEEDS TO STEP DOWN RIGHT NOW FOR THE GOOD OF THE FRANCHISE.

Murphy was the dolt who sat on his thumb while TT went from competent to a drooling imbecile.

Murphy was the dolt that usurped all the decision making authority for all aspects of the franchise and neutered the GM and Coach as leaders.

Murphy was the idiot that said "we are not idiots" and then proceeded to dole out the most ridiculous contract in NFL history.

Murphy was the moron who hired a young OC to be the Head Football Coach of the Green Bay Packers after ONE 2 hour interview.

Thats only what I KNOW. How many other stoopid things has he done? Hard to tell without walking the halls at 1265.

He has ben an OK steward of the franchises finances and future revenue streams. But... he copycatted the stadium district concept, nothing original there, He inherited a season ticket waiting list that has no end, he inherited an on-field product that has been winning games at an incredible pace with marque superstar QB's who market well. I could have done that. Where is the meat in this Green Bay sandwich? It certainly is not sitting in the team Presidents chair.

He needs to either acknowledge his error in management structure and reinstate the GM as the head of football operations or he needs to just plain resign and go away.

That is the only way he can preserve a positive legacy for his time in GB.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

January 17, 2023 at 04:36 pm

Murphy did what any GM in the NFL would do. He gave a market contract to a player who had won back-to-back MVPs and is one of the best to ever play the game. Rodgers had a subpar year for a lot of reason (loss of Adams, injuries to wideouts, broken thumb, turnstile at offensive line, poor decision making).

But when you have one of the best ever to play the game under center, you try to maximize that career. Brady and Manning both left their long-term teams and won a Title elsewhere. How have the Pats and Colts looked since then? That's what Gutey is trying to avoid, having Rodgers go win a ring for someone else, while GB struggles to have a winning season for the next several years.

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Johnblood27's picture

January 17, 2023 at 08:45 pm

another freakin' apologist.

the stoopid contract given out last year in lieu of a windfall trade proposal from Denver has crippled this franchise for the foreseeable future.

If AR wants to play the will he or wont he of the BF era, whay does the GBP FO have to play along? Didnt they learn a GD thing???

Give his highness a one year contract and then negotiate the next off-season depending upon his decision and the teams decision. Why does it have to be a one way street? AR holds the franchise hostage? Not if I were making the decisions. Murphy is a wimp. He holds ALL the cards and yet he sucks hind teat. What a pathetic loser. I'm certain that his wife cuckolds him.

swallow that sychophant...

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EnemyTerritory's picture

January 17, 2023 at 05:58 pm

If I recall Murphy has announced retirement in 2024

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Johnblood27's picture

January 17, 2023 at 08:42 pm

summer 2025

mandatory... no announcement necessary unless EARLY.

...we can only HOPE...

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:03 pm

The trade is the best option. Try to secure a higher pick. Get his replacement in round two. I have a hard time with his fumbles in key games. Get a bell cow back with speed and snag Ibrahim with a later rd pick.

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NickPerry's picture

January 17, 2023 at 06:48 am

Sorry, DP...

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stockholder's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:05 am

There is No questioning his heart. He can change a game. Great teammate.
Still- Pay cut coming.- His hands were less than stellar.
His fumbles shifted the momentum. He'll never move the pile.
( Yet- he's still a threat when the OL is winning. )
It's time. - Maybe time to even replace him. He'll never be one of the greats.
We've had great tandems. But Jones and Dillion isn't one of them.
There's still something missing. Jones is still a speedy back.
But- We still need a guy to push the pile. Automatic!
Shove it down their throats! Balance!
Both Jones and Dillion have lost their balance. And seem light on their feet.
I Expected a running attack like Ahmad Green. Even- A one,Two punch.
It's just not Going to happen. Jones needs fixing. Stopping the fumbles is priority one.
The hands are No longer soft. And his size has cost Rodgers more than one catch.
Their cheery picking his time for success. And I'm not seeing that GIVE me the Ball.

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PeteK's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:19 am

Considering how poorly the O line played for most of the season, rushing attack was good.

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stockholder's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:25 am

Not good enough down the stretch. Your difference maker was Watson.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:13 pm

Maybe some Fans shut their eyes when the Pack is trying to secure the six on 1st ,2nd, 3rd, 4th and goal and get blanked. 4th and Inches and they didn't trust the RBs. Absolutely need the bell cow back. I am looking at two running backs in this draft.

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stockholder's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:55 pm

Hopefully one is a FB again. Hunter Luke ND State is a TD Machine.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 17, 2023 at 02:10 pm

Deguara can do the FB job when they use him as lead dog out wide or go I-Formation. Luepke is really a big running back. He can turn the corner. He is under-rated. He has better feet than Dillon. 13 combined TDs in '22. This guy will get the 3rd and one.

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dobber's picture

January 17, 2023 at 11:50 am

Agreed: of the two backs, he's the far less blocking-dependent. He can make space for himself where 28 struggles in that regard.

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Packers0808's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:33 am

Once an idiot, you know the rest!

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Johnblood27's picture

January 17, 2023 at 08:03 am

oh what a sad delusional universe you create in your warped mind....

AJones is exactly the type of player that winning teams build around and keep on the team for the long term.

Loser franchises let guys like AJones test FA and then say goodbye over a couple bucks.

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Lphill's picture

January 17, 2023 at 08:43 am

like they let Charles Woodson walk?

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:19 pm

Touche'

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Johnblood27's picture

January 17, 2023 at 08:40 pm

...and he had how many pro-bowl seasons and DPOY awards after he left?

oh BTW, and how many before?

Yup, thought so...

GB made him, GBcut ties just about right.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 17, 2023 at 10:36 am

I agree, Jones has been great and a fan fav but he goes down at the first contact..how many times have I thought he would burst for a 10 yard plus gain but the first guys tags him and down he goes...plus the fumbles at the very worst time possible...and Dillon for how big he is simply can't pick the hole to burst through...running into the pile doesn't work very often...keep them or loss them won't bother me that much..

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:13 am

Jones means to much to the offense to cut. Sure they could draft a RB and have some success. But Jones is a core piece of the offense. His ability to be used as a RB and WR is too much to replace. So they need to find a way to restructure his contract if they need money. But they can't cut him.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 17, 2023 at 08:14 am

If Jones will be out of GB (big IF), he will be traded, not cut!

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 17, 2023 at 09:00 am

While I agree with you there, who is going to trade a premium pick for Jones? And if you aren't going to get a premium pick why would you trade him?

I love Jones, but he will be 29 this year playing RB. I don't think one team would give up a 1st round pick for Jones. I don't see many teams giving up a 2nd round pick for him. So what are we looking at getting back in return? A 3rd or later pick, or possibly a few other picks mixed in as well. I just don't see the trade value there and I wouldn't trade him unless you got a high pick for him.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 17, 2023 at 10:02 am

So, you would be more prone to cut him, eat 20 mill $ of cap hit and got nothing, or to transfer his contract and himself for at leeast 3rd or 4th draft pick (if he will not accept restructure or pay cut).

I must say your opinion is interesting...

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 17, 2023 at 10:18 am

Basically I'm saying is I wouldn't trade him unless I got a premium pick for him. And I don't see teams giving up a premium pick for a RB who is nearing 30. Not 30 yet, but he is nearing that age.

I wouldn't trade or cut him unless you are doing a complete restart on offense. Which I don't see them doing either.

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dobber's picture

January 17, 2023 at 11:54 am

If the plan is to cut him or trade him--if there's not a team expectation to return him in 2023--then anything you get in trade is found money on top of the cap relief.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:23 pm

The conversations have been about winning and saving money. He has trade value and the CAP relief would be prudent. Get better.

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MainePackFan's picture

January 17, 2023 at 10:12 am

RC. Jones doesn't turn 29 until the end of next season. He hasn't been overused throughout his career. So I don't think his age would stop teams from giving up early round draft capital. It's the position.

That being said, I agree that whatever they would likely get for him would not be worth what we are losing. Aaron Jones needs to stay right where he is.

I believe the player and the team want to make this work. I know we the fans want that as well. Great player, great dude. What's not to like :)

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 17, 2023 at 10:27 am

Yeah I don't know when his bday is. I just know he will be turning 29 this year.

I just don't see teams giving up a lot of draft capital for Jones. I would want at least a 2nd round pick. Maybe I'm wrong but how many teams are going to trade a 2nd or higher pick for a RB knowing that they can find capable RB's in the draft that are a lot cheaper. Sure Jones is proven and a great RB in the league. I just don't see teams willing to give up a lot for Jones. Again I could be wrong.

We are losing a lot more then gaining by trading Jones. Not only on the field but off the field. Jones is a great guy (from everything i have seen and read). Jones is a vital peace for our offense though. He impacts both the running game and passing game.

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MainePackFan's picture

January 17, 2023 at 10:55 am

I agree with you RC. I am all for keeping A Jones. He's my favorite player on this team. I just wanted to point out he will play the vast majority of next year as a young 28 year old : )

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:25 pm

His fumbles in Big Games.

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ImaPayne's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:38 pm

NOt really. There wont be a market for him he isnt special. Teams like to draft running backs mostly there are just too many available that have good pedigre. Plus you dont have to un teach anything.

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ImaPayne's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:36 pm

Your correct and thats the problem. They think he is too important but the fact is there are 15 running backs coming up in the draft that understand you take the ball from the qb and look for your blocks or go out on the flat for a pass. Wow what a difficult concept to learn in 4 weeks of training camp and three weeks of pre season.

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EnemyTerritory's picture

January 17, 2023 at 06:01 pm

Just wondering if Jones would make a good WR? Draft a RB to fill the void and that may address two issues at once…

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Savage57's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:21 am

If the Packers are looking for some financial clawback, ring up Clark and Bakhtiari first.

We know Rodgers isn't going to do anything to help the cause because he's so god damm self-absorbed, and it's nuts to think about going after some coin from Jones, the one guy out of those four who played better and meant more to the team.

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PeteK's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:23 am

This is not the year to cut a RB who produced 73 FDs, 7 TDs, and 1500 yds of offense. There are other players on this team who have not earned their contracts, but not Jones.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:33 pm

His running mate, Jamal Williams, had ten more scores just for perspective. The hierarchy guys get paid the most: QB, LT, CB #1, WR #1. Fans have to think like GMs. Running backs are replaceable, especially as they age and how many games did he sit or took fewer snaps?

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Swisch's picture

January 17, 2023 at 03:14 pm

I agree, Pete, keep Jones for at least one more season because he is a difference maker and a game breaker.
Whether it's Rodgers or Love at QB, stick with Jones as, along with Watson, one of our two most dynamic and productive players on offense. Being so young at wide receiver overall, and iffy at tight end, let's make sure running back is top notch.
I'm not for giving Jones a long-term contract at big money, but he can continue as a difference maker for at least this upcoming season. Maybe work out something with Jones to have him under contract for two seasons, with less than scheduled this season.
What I don't want is a total rebuild in any case, but some continuity with dependable players, especially those who move the sticks and put points on the board.
Keep Jones and Crosby for 2023, and make sure these guys know they are treasured.
Trim salary elsewhere.

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Coach Cleve Steamer's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:32 am

Offensive coordinator LaFleur and Coach Rodgers don’t have a clue about running the ball. Isn’t that obvious? The Packers have wasted Jones’s talent every year but 2019 when they relied on him. In 2022 he had 2 games with at least 20 carries and 6 games with less than 10 carries. What is pathetic is that the Packers is that they run the ball well but not enough. Everyone knows this, has known and will know it in the future. Every discussion should start with the suspect personnel usage on this team. Probably the worst use of talented players I’ve ever seen.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 17, 2023 at 10:38 am

Did anyone else get jealous watching all those playoff games that were well planned out and play called by the O coordinator and coach? Some of those game plans seem so sensible and simple..

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mnbadger's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:27 pm

I was especially jealous of the way the NYG's changed their coverage of tjhockinTE.
He ran open in zone coverage most of the game to limit Jefferson but they manned up on him when they needed to.
I'd give Joe Barry's left testicle for that type of in game adjustment.
GPG!

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:44 pm

Wink Martindale is now interviewing for HC jobs. LaFleur wanted his guy, but Joe B. didn't bring along Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey and Bobby Wagner. His quote isn't about bend and break. He said, " Everything is Punch and Counterpunch."

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ImaPayne's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:33 pm

Funny I saw all kind of cleaver plays and schemes, especially the vikes who have a complicated offensive system actually using their te's to catch passes, a novel idea.
Then like you refer, our entire offence is bland, Rodgers drops back and looks for someone open. Wow does that fool people. How can any team defend that?

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ImaPayne's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:31 pm

I never thought Jones was as talented as others on this board. He lacks the speed and finese of Dalving Cook who is illusive and can break a big one any time, the Packers have seen that for sure.
I have never seen Jones break a big one for a td. I rarely see him going out on the flat to catch a pass either like Cook does all the time.
Jones is a slightly above average back. Thats all he is

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Packers0808's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:36 am

Rodgers has to go one way or another. Watch 3-5 years ago the zip on the ball to last season. Rodgers arm strength and waned and his refusal for early practice attendance has hurt this team tremendously!

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Packers0808's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:36 am

delete

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Packers0808's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:36 am

Delete repeat!

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Coldworld's picture

January 17, 2023 at 07:56 am

They are going to try to bring back everyone if you give credence to what they are saying. While some caution is necessary in the lead up to such decisions, it seems pretty clear that the plan is to keep as much if the band together and try to run it back. I can’t for the life of me see why they believe that will result in success, but it appears pretty clear that this is their strategy.

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Johnblood27's picture

January 17, 2023 at 08:08 am

just replace Rodgers with Love and draft a WR and TE and S and OL and DL and edge.

There are young guys that can step up, some youth will help, gonna lose a few vets due to $$$, but the ability to compete in our division in 23 and with the rest of the league in 24 on is there.

Lose the albatross of AR and the GBP should be fine.

oh yeah... IF Murphy either admits his mistakes and corrects them or he steps away a couple years before he gets pushed off the cliff... Leadership and respect matter in organizations such as an NFL football operation, the GM and Coach need to be given the responsibilities of their positions and allowed to be men among men.

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EnemyTerritory's picture

January 17, 2023 at 06:06 pm

It’s a great strategy. See the big band in the arena, then the stadium, and back to the arena before the casino farewell tour… all the golden oldies

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PatrickGB's picture

January 17, 2023 at 08:07 am

The #1 drain on our cap is #12.

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MainePackFan's picture

January 17, 2023 at 10:36 am

As it is with most teams with a veteran QB.

For what it's worth.... According to Spotrac, The following QB's have higher cap hits than Rodgers in 2023:

In order...

D Watson, D Prescott, P Mahomes, J Allen, R Tannehill, K Cousins, M Ryan, T Brady and D Carr. Rodgers would be next on that list.

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MainePackFan's picture

January 17, 2023 at 11:03 am

not to mention that LT's L Tunsil and Jake Matthews along with DE Leonard Williams all have higher cap hits than Rodgers next year.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:29 pm

How much those QBs cost their teams in 2024 & 2025? And at what age and level of playing? Not to mention his attitude here...

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MainePackFan's picture

January 18, 2023 at 06:04 am

Croat. He is 8th in 2024. 2025 is the big hit, but I highly doubt that contract comes to fruition in the way it is written right now. I believe only the first 3 years are guaranteed.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 18, 2023 at 11:38 am

It is guaranteed ~150 mill $. If he plays 2023 and 2024 it will be around 100 mill $ for that 2 years. If he will retire after 2023 it will be around 90 mill $ dead money, If he is released after June 1st dead money will be something less than 62 mill $ for 2023. That are official numbers!

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MainePackFan's picture

January 18, 2023 at 01:13 pm

The conversation was about the cap hits. That's what matters. If he retires, he walks away from a lot of money. The Packers won't be responsible for the money if Rodgers decides to hang it up. Hence Rodgers saying the Packers had given him generational wealth, and he could walk away from the money owed on his current contract.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 18, 2023 at 02:10 pm

If ACR retires or will be traded, he will receive 40.3 mill $ as that is guaranteed money for 2023/2024 season as signing bonus. If he would play he will receive something less than 32 mill $ for 2023. If he will be traded or retires after 2023 season Packers will own him (and he will receive) over 63 mill $.

If Packers cut him they will owe him (and pay him) more than 90 mill $, that can be split over 2 years.

Those numbers are cap numbers!

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MainePackFan's picture

January 18, 2023 at 06:59 pm

Croat. If Rodgers chooses to retire he will have voided the remainder of the contract. He was paid 40.8M (signing bonus) last year plus his base salary of 1.15M. It appears, based on what my simple mind can decipher, If he plays for the Packers in 2023 he will be paid 59m with 24M being pushed to the 2024 dead cap hit should the Packers say ta ta in 2024.

To be honest, there is a reason lawyers handle this nonsense.

Full disclosure: I am not a lawyer. I can't speak for you, but I assume you aren't a lawyer either.

At the end of the day, you and I disagree on the path forward. That being said, I'm pretty sure we certainly do agree that we will be Pack fans regardless of what the FO and AR decide. Peace out my friend :)

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Handsback's picture

January 17, 2023 at 08:25 am

As I pointed out yesterday, MLF'S offense isn't WR centered as much as RB centered. Jones is the straw that stirs the drink. I think you have to make sure you have a replacement straw on your team not just a complementary player like Dillon.
The good news is there several guys who have that ability in this year's draft including the best RB that will still be there in the first round and many in the third round.
So I would resign him since you don't have a replacement on hand.
JMHO

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:54 pm

The Lions like the 49rs have wiped out La Fleur's wide zone run schemes. "4th and Inches " should be this year's theme. Change the formula. Get better.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 17, 2023 at 08:29 am

Cory, I understand your reason(s) for this article.

But until we will find out what Mark Murpy will decide regarding ACR, we can only discuss all other players, their position on team and the size of the contract they have.

Andy Herman gave in his podcast one of the possible "All-in" scenario. It has huge SC hits for the future seasons and he wisely sugests that is not good idea.

If they try to go another try for SB win, Packers will be damned for a long time. Packers will became team similar to Lions - how many years of irrelevance?

I'm so sorry that it is not possible to make any influence on the Mark Murphy role as Packers GM.

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T7Steve's picture

January 17, 2023 at 08:35 am

Speaking as a former union member, I don't think anyone should give up money that they've earned weather it's a reward for past work or for the future' they've truly earned it. These guys make a LOT of money for the NFL. Let the NFL pay it. The owners don't have to destroy their bodies and have finite careers.

That said, in the world of the NFL the cap is reality. I'd really like Jones to be a Packer for life, but if they don't upgrade their O-line he's going to go to waste. You can get anyone to run into a wall and get beat up. Think of the production they'd had this year with a real O-line. As soon as someone loaded the box against the Packers this year, they got scared out of running. Just what opposing Ds wanted.

If you can't force your will, you will be forced to do someone else's will (Shakespear).

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LLCHESTY's picture

January 17, 2023 at 09:05 am

I think you could mitigate his cap hit somewhat by adding a year to his deal if he's receptive. He's still well short of the 1600 carry wall(1035 carries as of now).

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 17, 2023 at 09:12 am

If only there were some way to get Jones more touches, but how? Whether the guy makes $7.50 and hour or eleventy bajillion a year there must be an ad hoc committee established to identify ways to get him the ball. It's a huge undertaking. Perhaps this committee can meet immediately after the 4th Down and 1 Advisory Group (third Wed of the month) meets.

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LLCHESTY's picture

January 17, 2023 at 09:24 am

If Jones stays.

29.
Antonio Johnson
S Texas A&M
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GB

45.
Darnell Washington
TE Georgia
GB

63.
Isaiah Land
EDGE Florida A&M
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GB

113.
Zach Harrison
EDGE Ohio State
GB

135.
Zacch Pickens
DT South Carolina
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146.
Colby Wooden
DT Auburn
GB

161.
Bryce Ford-Wheaton
WR West Virginia
GB

189.
Jalen Green
S Mississippi State
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195.
Jadon Haselwood
WR Arkansas
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GB

204.
Aki Ogunbiyi
OG Texas A&M
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GB

220.
Camren McDonald
TE Florida State
GB

2024 BUF 2nd

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stockholder's picture

January 17, 2023 at 09:58 am

I wouldn't draft a safety first! The Safety position=. is not top 50.
If edge is your priority in Rd. 3. & 4. You take the better edge in; rd.1.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 17, 2023 at 01:53 pm

PFN
#15 to Wash for #16 and #2 (2024)
#16 to Denver for #28/#67 and #1 (2024)

#28 Broderick Jones,Georgia OT

#32 from Steelers for #1 (Denver) + #3 GB (2024)
Cedric Tillman Tenn. WR

#45 + #4 (2024) to NOLA for #40
#40 Uzomah K State Edge

#67+ #7 (2024) to Jets for # 74/140
# 74 Tucker Kraft SDS TE

# 98 Keeanu Benton DT
#113 Schoonmaker Michigan TE
# !40 Cory Trice Purdue CB/S
# 146 Kendre Miller TCU RB
# 201 Dontay Demus Turtles WR
# 210 Myles Murphy NC DT
# 200 Ja'von Hicks Cinn. S

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Leatherhead's picture

January 17, 2023 at 04:02 pm

I do like LL's pre draft stuff.

I like trading back, getting more picks, and taking a defender with our first pick. But after that, I'm looking to load up the offense. In the simulations, Darnell Washington is there at #45 often, but there are other very good TEs available later. I also think the Oline needs earlier attention than #204.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

January 17, 2023 at 10:38 am

Aaron Jones take a pay cut to stay with the Packers? The guy who deserves a pay cut is Aaron Rodgers, but don't hold your breath on that one.

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ImaPayne's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:19 pm

I know, Mr Negative again but guys here's the deal. Jones is okay. But just okay. I have to search my data bank brain to come up with a time I saw him break a big one for a TD.
Ya he gets five here, ten there but he is not a break away threat that teams try and adjust for. He is not scary good.
With that said, there are probably 10 or more backs in the draft that can do what he does. Cut your loses and save the money, get a new guy and move on. Dime a dozen on running backs these past years.
Oh ditto on Dillon. He lacks a quick start and is getting hit behind the line rather then on the other side most of the time.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 17, 2023 at 12:36 pm

"""""If a player has a career year, is it fair to expect them to take a pay cut?""""

Corey, Life is Not Fair. I know you've been told this before, most of us have, but it's easy to think sometimes that life should be fair. It isn't.

I like Jones quite a bit, but I'm not seeing a good scenario where we bring him back instead of trading him for a pick and $10 million in cap relief. IMO, it makes more sense to trade down a little and load up the roster on the offensive side of the roster. Blockers and skill position. No old people should be considered at RB.

Also, next year is Dillon's contract year, so if we keep Jones, we could be sitting here next offseason with our top two RBs leaving. I'd rather get a horse to replace Jones and pair with Dillon for a year. There are currently six RBs ranked in the Top 100 of CBS sports., and we could get one for a lot less than it costs to keep Jones.

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stockholder's picture

January 17, 2023 at 03:04 pm

Re- sign them then.
I believe he will re-work his contract.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 17, 2023 at 03:35 pm

You wrote that AR12 gets $31MM next year. I read that there's $40MM in dead cap I'd he DOESN'T play, and JL10 gets $20MM. So $60 MM for either QB. Is there anybody that thinks GB has a better chance to win with JL? $80 MM to keep both is impossible.

I see people willing to get rid of #33 for a rookie RB. This is silly IMHO, rookies are hit or miss.

I think #1 priority should maybe be pass rusher instead of TE. Of course if Tonyan continues to recover from ACL injury or if it's known he'll never be 100% is a huge piece of that puzzle. Same with #69. 4 players went down to ACL injury last year, statistically it's not likely that all 4 recover 100%.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 17, 2023 at 04:07 pm

"""""" Is there anybody that thinks GB has a better chance to win with JL?"""""

I do.

""""I see people willing to get rid of #33 for a rookie RB. This is silly IMHO, rookies are hit or miss."""""

Honestly, it's the $10 million. It's not about what he does on the field at all. The question is whether we'd rather have Jones, or a rookie and $10 million?

Our #1 priority should be improving the offensive line.

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Duneslick's picture

January 17, 2023 at 04:36 pm

JL get 20 million in 2024 not next year

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Trapped-in-MN-BUT-GB-fan's picture

January 17, 2023 at 03:45 pm

Trade him? Pay cut? Restructure? Nothing will matter unless MLF uses him and the other 10 players on offense correctly. I’m not holding my breath on that happening. He can’t even recognize needing to run or quarterback sneak on 4th and inches. He can’t recognize that Barry doesn’t know his a## from a hole in the ground. Then throw in Murphy and gutey and doesn’t matter what they do with AJ.

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BirdDogUni's picture

January 17, 2023 at 03:53 pm

Everyone loves Aaron Jones, but business is business.

If in fact MaLF isn't going to utilize him, we might as well trade him for all we can get and draft a WR/TE who MaLF will utilize.

There's no doubt we need as much cap space as we can muster, and the more draft picks we have the cheaper the contracts. We need youth and cheap contracts, no matter how we feel about AJ.

That being said, I expect the FO brain trust will bring him back no matter what and we'll be wondering why MaLF isn't using him, and then when we're in an important game, he'll put him in cold and we'll see another unlikely fumble.

Just seems like everything we do is opposite of what we should be doing.

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LLCHESTY's picture

January 17, 2023 at 04:49 pm

It's certainly not hard to see him going to another team, getting 300 touches, and having a monster season. He might find it tougher sledding though, he did run into much lighter boxes than average this year.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 17, 2023 at 06:45 pm

he's a good team guy but he isn't a guy who gets any yards or feet after contact..goes down easy, draft a new guy..

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BirdDogUni's picture

January 17, 2023 at 10:32 pm

As long as his QB isn't an idiot wherever he ends up, he'll be fine. Love to see him go to Miami, Chargers, Buffalo, KC...

Hell, he might even go wherever Rodgers goes once we don't sign his entourage? I don't know what you thought about his appearance on PMS, but it sounded to me like he was giving the Packers an easy out. He made it quite clear he wanted Big Dog with him for the rest of his career, so if we don't re-sign Big Dog, that tells me he's retiring or wants a trade. I don't see him retiring. I suppose it's possible, but I think a trade is much more likely than him retiring.

If Murphy and Gutey re-sign Crosby, Big Dog, Cobb, Tonyan, and Lazard at the direction of AR12, they'll get the season they deserve, no doubt.

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