Anything can happen.
And it usually does.
That’s my expectation.

GPG!

Tonight's the chance for Hafley's much heralded defense to bear their weight and produce a dominant performance which alters the course and outcome of the game.

For all of the hubbub surrounding Hafley, his unit has not been a game changer. For the Packers to win, his unit must become what apparently the NFL world thinks they are.

Everything looks very grim going into this game. It is hard to picture a Packer run to the super bowl. Yet hasn't this been a crazy year all the way through? A small nagging feeling has been tingling my spidy sense. Wouldn't it just be a fitting ending to this crazy year if the Pack makes an unlikely run? Everybody knows we have the talent. This is the first time in, ever, that the Packers receivers are all healthy going into a big game. I'm prepared for the worst but have this secret hope that we are going to see the best. Don't we all?

"Too make matters worse....."

Listen, am i the only one here that has no doubt Zach Tom will start this game?
Are you kidding me with this?
I know people need something to print, but....
He was held out of practice for rest, per Lafleur.

If Tom doesn't start tonight, i'll end my postings here on CHTV.

Keeping it 💯

Admittedly, it's my own fault. Why do I keep reading this crap?

So much to unpack here:

1. "They then went to San Francisco and lost 24-21, despite Jordan Love throwing a pair of picks." Please look up the meaning of "despite" in a dictionary.

2. "Clearly, Packers coach Matt LaFleur is not a student of history." Or maybe he IS a student of history because he remembers Christian Watson blowing out his knee in an almost meaningless game to end last season, and his battered team then getting thumped by the Eagles in the playoffs. It is a matter of opinion whether the Packers should've tried to beat the Vikings last week, but LaFleur's reason for treating it like a preseason game made sense. I think most people are in agreement on this.

3. "If Love cannot complete the 8-yard hitch, his confidence for the deep ball will likely be tough to find." Not sure what this is based on. If you get a chance to hit a deep throw early, you take it. Love does not need to be babied by his play-caller.

4. "His feet are usually a tangled mess, even [in] a clean pocket." His footwork is a little unconventional, just like Aaron Rodgers' footwork, but it works for him.

Weird to read a game day article that is dripping with condescension toward Jordan Love. Things to worry about are the defense (especially the run defense) and the offensive line, not our QB, who is one of the best in the league.

To me, Green Bay has underperformed most of the season. The center snap that hit the face mask of the QB in the Chicago game will be forever in NFL bloopers. Yet what Cory is suggesting is what many of us have been yelling for the team to do.
They aren't a running team. Sorry, but the line isn't built for that yet so lean on the pass because the receivers are where the playmaker reside. It's like the TE situation...everyone here posted to get Kraft more involved with the offense. Once they did...it took off. Now that he's hurt it seems that there's a huge disconnect on the short passing game. So they run more which isn't that effective.
Anyway, I hope they play lights out and run the table. Miracles happen all the time look at Indiana in the Championship...who ever thought that would happen.
JMHO

The game is on the Line.

Pantz Burp

*I can just imagine some of you wondering out loud at the breakfast table: How does Pantz do it? He has laid at our feet, gems and gobs of knowledge and wit and humor, time and time again.

My reply, I honestly dont know. It's almost as if I'm holding the #2 pencil, but Coach Lombardi is conducting the beautiful string of words.

GPG...

**I try to submit my gems towards the very end of certain subject threads so as to not put any extra pressure on the poor sap who responds after one of my (Vince's) masterpieces. Just like in karaoke at the local VFW,...follow the horrible sounding singer, NOT the talented one...you will look/sound better when compared to them.

***Please, hug someone today. And if you have looong enough arms, hug yourself too.

"Make the throws quick and easy early on. Crossers, screens and curls sound like a great first series diet. Let Love get his groove back slowly and easily. There’s no need to risk it with a deep ball right away unless he’s got a receiver open by at least five yards."

I couldn't agree more with Cory here. At least to start the game until Jordan KNOWS himself he's got his stuff. LaFleur doesn't need to get cute. He's got Reed back and Watson healthy. He's got a healthier Josh Jacobs to lean on too. As we say in AA...KISS...Keep It Simple Stupid.

Matter of fact I wouldn't mind seeing a TON of Josh Jacobs. I'm all for ANY TD drive but I love those 14 play, 75 yard drives where it's mostly on the ground. USE Jacobs, wear the Bears ass out. Keep the ball out of the Bears hands, especially in the 4th quarter. Long drives will accomplish exactly that.

The Lions had some success running double crossers and then passing to the side the receivers vacated. After giving up 8 explosives and over 430 yards the Packers might be able to catch the defenders guarding the crossers peeking. I'd try running a double crosser with Reed and Golden and throw it their way, it might generate some easy YAC.

The Lions also had some success running clearouts with 3 verts and then throwing to Gibbs behind them.

It is okay to feel as tense as a country fence. May I suggest...dont fight the feeling, rather...lean into it.

We will be fine. Just hope we hang onto the football like a big-boned lil feller hangs onto the last chocolate-covered pretzel.

You barkeep, please pass down another Leinies, a pickled egg and another blind Robin. Oh, and please crank up the jukebox when I press E2.

Thanks muccho,

P. Burp

Packer media spends an enormous amount of energy propping up Gutekunst's early-round mistakes-LVN, Gary, Morgan, Q Walker, Savage, Stokes, Myers, et al. Fans are not (have not) really been allowed to critique these players without enormous blow-back. LVN is not and has never played up to his Draft status-same with the others mentioned.

Receivers will need much more than a 5 yard advantage for a Love thrown deep ball. All Loves deep balls hang and force the receivers to slow up or even come back giving the defenders time to catch up. I’ve seen Love throw some amazing passes but the deep ball is not one of them. This part of the packer offense is recognized to not be a threat. Willis is much better in this regard and along with his running ability, likely why he has become such a fan phenomenon. Note how he was so effective in the deep strikes this season. Love is our QB, but this part of his game needs to be fixed for the pack to be a consistent, effective offense by taking full advantage of our receiver talent.

Last week the Bears lost to the Lions at home, a game they very much wanted to win. Tonight they will lose to the Packers with all of our disappointing draft picks and rollercoaster ride QB. We don't have to be perfect, we just have to win.

Rain changing to snow. Perfect old-school football weather. GPG and f*ck Bezos.

I agree. Use the ground game and a short passing game to get it done. Blustery and windy conditions with light snow are in the forecast, so this approach could serve us well.

If it's third-and-5 yards, throw to the guy who's open for 6 yards.
If it's third-and-11, throw to the guy who's open for 12.
No need for the deep shots in such situations -- unless as Cory writes, the guy is wide open.
Move the chains.
***
A deep shot now and then is a good thing, however.
A couple of quick scores would be most welcome.
Plus, the deep shots keep the defense honest.
Here's an idea: On third-and-20 or more yards, roll out right and throw deep, forty yards or so. Even if the receiver is covered, he might make a play or draw a pass-interference penalty. In this case, even an interception is really no worse than a punt. Have the other receivers trail the route to make the tackle if there is an interception.
***
Time to put the four-game losing streak in the rearview mirror; time to start a four-game winning streak.
GPG

I think the Packers win, and win easily, because they have the better roster. Unfortunately, that won’t change the more depressing news I read this morning: LaFleur isn’t coaching for his job and may be rewarded with an extension, whether they win or not. So we can all look forward to three or four more years of the same vacant postgame whiny soliloquy—“It’s on me, I have to be better”—delivered by a coach who never is.

Jordan Riley offered physicality and experience on the DL for GB the last time they played against the Bears, they have replaced him with J Ford ex packer and a downgrade. After scouting GB vs the Ravens the Bears will repeatedly attach the Middle of GB defense front with Monangai ( wouldn't you ) There's talk of GB defense and Hafley having a comeback game against the Vikings last week but remember the Vikings were headed to the golf course after that game anyway. My feeling is this will be a tougher match-up than the last. The Packers OF line must perform and our off tackles stay healthy and protect Love, we must avoid panic throws, turn overs, and of course injuries...

Good points Dobber, Bears not a power running team yes but to Monangia looks like a tough in between the tackles runner ... Our weeks rest and preparation should be advantageous. Packers are overdue for a clean/error free game

If we don't turn it over, we'll win.
If we have one turnover, we have a 50/50 chance of winning.
If we have two or more turnovers, our season will end .

Although a missed FG, or a failed 4th down, are not official turnovers, they have the same effect. Your opponent takes over possession. It's worse than a punt, which at least gives you yards in exchange for possession.

CoryJenner John:

"And to make matters worse, with right tackle Zach Tom listed as a game time decision, that could make Love’s time in the pocket even tighter than usual. Which means that he will not have a lot of time to get comfortable and set his feet. His feet are usually a tangled mess, even a clean pocket.

So we’ve seen this movie before and the ending has been rotten. The only way to have an alternate ending is to score right away. Put pressure on the Bears. Make them think they have to pass to stay in the game. (When in fact, they don’t.)

LaFleur needs to just keep it simple. Make the throws quick and easy early on. Crossers, screens and curls sound like a great first series diet. Let Love get his groove back slowly and easily. There’s no need to risk it with a deep ball right away unless he’s got a receiver open by at least five yards.

I want Love completing all the layups so he has a chance at completing the three-pointers."

Cory is spot on!!

Cory, sees that all but the Gutey Propagandists, the Rodgers Haters, and the Jordan Love bitter enders see.