Cory's Corner: It's Time For Some Spice

The Packers need a defense that cannot wait to make plays. The defensive leader of the Dawgs teaches that philosophy. 

Now that the Packers’ season is over, the most important offseason move that the team will make is to hire a quality defensive coordinator. 

It’s more important than the draft or potential free agent acquisitions. 

And the reason isn’t because the NFL has suddenly morphed into a defensive league. It’s because this team has plenty of talent. Kenny Clark (37) and rookie Karl Brooks (41) are both ranked in the top 50 among all defensive lineman according to Pro Football Focus. Rashan Gary (29)  among all edge rushers, Jaire Alexander (32) in a down year among all corners and Darnell Savage (22) and Rudy Ford (42) among all safeties. 

I don’t want to hear that the Packers don’t have the players. This team put a lid on one of the most prolific scoring teams at home in the Cowboys and they were two dropped picks away from advancing to the NFC title game.

But the reason why Packers coach Matt LaFleur had to let go of defensive coordinator Joe Barry was because this team couldn’t swallow more of the same. I was actually surprised when Barry was asked to come back this past season after many questionable decisions and numerous lapses in judgment that led to field position or points. 

But now it’s clear. The Packers have the horses to compete. They outplayed the best team in the NFC on paper — and they did it with Jordan Love playing a subpar game. That tells me that this defense needs to be trusted. It needs to be given the autonomy to make plays. 

Yet, that goes against what Barry wanted. He had a classic bend but don’t break approach. That philosophy is  fine if you’ve got a bunch of Johnny Averages playing on defense. Then you can keep everything in front of you and hope against hope that the offense will make  a costly mistake. 

Hoping isn’t the right way to play defense. You need to run to the ball carriers with reckless abandon. You need to put your shoulder pads through his chest as you tackle them and you need to celebrate big plays when you put an opposing offense behind the sticks. 

Let’s face it, playing defense in the NFL is hard. Winning the Super Bowl is all about scoring points. Three of the last four Super Bowl winners have scored at least 30 points and last year’s final score was 38-35. 

In today’s NFL, where the playing field is skewed to the offensive side of the ball, you have to be willing to accept giving up points. But in order to do that, you must make the offense uncomfortable, or else it’s going to be a long day. Quarterbacks will carve defenses up if given time. Trevor Lawrence was an average passer this season with 21 touchdowns and 14 picks, but if he’s allowed to make on-platform throws for most of the game, why wouldn’t he be successful?

Who would I take with this most important hire? I’d go with Georgia co-defensive coordinator Glenn Schumann. He was interviewed by the Eagles in February 2023 to be their defensive coordinator but ultimately opted to stay at Georgia. With Quay Walker, Devonte Wyatt and Eric Stokes having played college ball at Georgia, this could be an intriguing decision for the up-and-coming 33-year-old. 

The Packers need someone that isn’t afraid to fail. The Packers did that this entire season and had to clinch a playoff berth in the final game of the regular season. It’s time to put away the vanilla schemes and start adding some spice to this side of the ball. 

 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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EskyBrian's picture

January 27, 2024 at 06:24 am

Great article Cory! As usual!

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Rory P Scrotem's picture

January 27, 2024 at 06:43 am

Very, very hopeful Brendon Cox, jr. will emerge next year. I think he is another Bo Melton-type talent (only on defense) just waiting to happen! ;)

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 27, 2024 at 08:06 am

I'm very surprised he didn't play in the last game. Our depth on the bench does no good if they never play. Injuries all along the O line, and three huge OTs never played. Grant DuBose is a likely direct substitute for Wicks when he's out due to injury. Bo Melton should fill in when #9 is out, to keep JL10 connected to that much speed if nothing else.

#99 J Ford never played.

"Draft and develop?"

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Coldworld's picture

January 27, 2024 at 08:44 am

The player elevated played on STs. They really just went with the experience in D with one less option.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 27, 2024 at 09:04 am

Conversely, he wasn't good enough to play this year. That's a development year. They have him on the practice squad, he's in the weight room, he's in the meetings. He was red-shirted.

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Coldworld's picture

January 27, 2024 at 09:16 am

This Packers coaching group rarely blood players in season unless it’s absolutely necessary. One could say they have trust issues reminiscent of Rodgers.

That said, on this occasion, we probably underused Brooks as it was, so we bet heavily with starters in the playoffs. I might think a little too much, but in the playoffs that’s not a particularly unusual route to take. However, it does mean it’s impossible to conclude much about Cox from his non-playing.

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crayzpackfan's picture

January 27, 2024 at 09:03 am

Sic- I think Watson should fill in for Bo. :)

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

January 27, 2024 at 10:48 am

J Ford isn’t a very good player. A 7th round pick who wasn’t good at stopping the run in college; and hasn’t shown to have improved. DuBose was hurt. Given the ways we’ve seen this team improve over the course of the year, might you not have a tiny bit of trust that they see these guys in practice and know who to play? The incredible number of snaps this year played by young players proves they were willing to play untested guys. Maybe they just didn’t play the guys who didn’t look ready; and some may never be ready.

If you can’t see the ample evidence of draft and develop during the 2023 season, then you’re not watching the Packers.

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Coldworld's picture

January 27, 2024 at 01:00 pm

Maybe, because we’ve not seen him tested in season, but Ford looked pretty serviceable in camp and preseason last year. That’s no guarantee, but most pundits expected him to make the roster. If he’s so lousy, why is he still on the PS and now a futures deal? They let Slayton walk and Gute churns the PS heavily.

The incredible number of snaps were mostly played by the higher draft picks anointed in pre season. Valentine earned a chance it’s true and eventually got one due to injury and trade. Heath earned a small role. It took till December for Melton to get a chance. The reason we started a lot of rookies is because we had to this year. There weren’t many healthy veterans we could have started instead that ended up on the bench or inactive.

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LLCHESTY's picture

January 27, 2024 at 02:55 pm

I think it's obvious that they don't think Ford is good competition for Slaton. I'd like to see them draft another NT that would be as he's the most inconsistent D lineman. Sweat and McKinley will be top 100 picks but they could look at someone like Stackhouse from Georgia or Rogers from Auburn in the 5th or 6th round.

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stockholder's picture

January 27, 2024 at 07:17 am

Interesting view.
I thought the same thing about Schumann.
Then I read he never played I the NFL.
That the word CO- DC was involved.
No- we need someone better.
How about Pete Kwiakowski instead. Texas

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

January 27, 2024 at 08:07 am

There are 20 candidates, all of whom are an upgrade from JB.

Hopefully GB hires the best fit, before he signs somewhere else ...

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Coldworld's picture

January 27, 2024 at 08:47 am

The majority of the great Coordinators on either side of the ball never played in the NFL.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 27, 2024 at 10:31 am

Holmgren grabbed Fritz because he was the DC who caused the most trouble for his Offense. The 49rs Defense paved the way for DeMeco Ryans and Saleh to HC jobs. 4-3 defenses and guys who worked them to perfection should be the focus of Packertown, LLC. Gutedkunst should work to get more picks from Rds 1-4. Cory is pushing Savage. I don't see a Playmaker.

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golfpacker1's picture

January 27, 2024 at 11:02 am

I agree with you J on getting more picks. An easy move down, would be to trade back from #25 to late first or early second round. Our top need is Safety and since the top Safeties shouldn't come off the board in the first round, why not trade back to snag at least 2 more picks including another 2nd. It always depends on finding a trade partner, but if any of Bo Nix, Michael Penix, or J J McCarthy are still available, someone will want to move up for the extra contract year. Washington would be great as they have 2 second round picks. Or any top 5 team in second round could get us their second and third. Fill as many holes as possible.

The Giants need a QB also and might trade back into the first round. They also have 2 second rounders. Turn 2 into 4 and kill this draft with top players at their positions. We already have 4 picks on day 2 of the draft right where we can grab top Safties and top RBs. How would Safties Tyler Nubin and Kinchens change our defense? How would Braelon Allen-Wisconsin RB look in Green and Gold?

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NFLfan's picture

January 27, 2024 at 08:14 am

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 27, 2024 at 08:36 am

He's interviewing with other teams and seems he wants to go back to being a position coach. I cannot imagine Matt would demand the new DC hires Barry on his staff. If I were Joe I would go elsewhere for a new start.

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Guam's picture

January 27, 2024 at 08:23 am

I always thought it must be demoralizing for defensive players to play for a coach like Barry. The "bend but don't break" philosophy is founded on making the other team go the length of field without making a mistake in order to score. Put another way, you keep playing until the other team either stops themselves or they score. That reflects a complete lack of confidence in your own players to stop the opponent. I would hate to play for a coach who had so little confidence in his own players that he didn't trust them to be able to outplay the opponent.

I hope Lafleur finds a coach that trusts his players enough to turn them loose and make plays.

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 27, 2024 at 08:40 am

Another reason why Barry Ball lost so many games late in the contest after the O got the lead.

It was not the points given up, it is when they were surrendered...4th quarter, guys playing long stretches, hands on hips, getting wore down, late to the ball, missing tackles...as the game slipped away.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 27, 2024 at 10:36 am

Yup, "Fatigue makes cowards of us all..."

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 27, 2024 at 09:10 am

demoralizing? did you read what Preston Smith had to say about Barry and the defense' loyalty to him?

I get it that people are demonizing Joe Barry, he's not a very colorful dude, he doesn't fit the mold that folks have of an alpha personality type, but I never saw that defense quit. I saw it get beaten more often than I like seeing, and I've seen questionable alignments, but they always played hard. At various points in the season we had our 3 top cornerbacks on the shelf at the same time. People need to lighten up.

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Coldworld's picture

January 27, 2024 at 09:30 am

“Joe B’s been dialing it up. He gets a lot of hell in the media. But we’ve come together. We play for Joe B.”

Preston Smith after the win over Chicago. That’s the full extent of his comment. Certainly seems like Preston was enthused, but we’d again seen a D largely premised on his positional group winning, so Smith celebrating that focus is perhaps not surprising. Smith’s comment does not mean others were, or other units of the D. It seems pretty obvious that the philosophy chafed with others at times.

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Guam's picture

January 27, 2024 at 01:23 pm

Bitternotsour: Yes, Smith provided a lukewarm endorsement of Barry, but Savage, Campbell, Alexander and Jerry Gray provided opposite takes. I will go with the majority and believe Barry was not a highly motivating DC.

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Houndog's picture

January 27, 2024 at 09:16 am

I agree, Guam,
Every player in the NFL was a star on some team at some time be it HS or college. They all want to showcase their skills, and being held back by a conservative scheme must be extremely frustrating to them.
I think the poor scheme played a part in Alexander's antics as well as the comments by Campbell and Savage during the 3-game 'make a QB great' streak. The failure to rotate in some of the younger guys was also concerning, they need experience while the starters need a blow sometimes.
I believe, and have stated all season, that the Pack has enough talent at present to be much better than they've showed, at least top 10-15 or maybe top 20 at worst.
I'm hoping they chose a young up-n-comer that'll take some risks to make them better.
GPG!

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Leatherhead's picture

January 27, 2024 at 04:48 pm

Guam.......I think those 40 and 50 yard plays are a lot more demoralizing than a bunch of short completions. At least on the short completions, you can come up and punish them. You get to huddle up and try again.

I don't think it reflects a lack of confidence, I think it's a question of giving your defense a maximum opportunity to end the possession short of the endzone.

The players, for what it's worth, seemed to like playing for Barry. There were a couple of articles out, one quoting PSmith, to the effect that the defense played for him. That's kind of the opposite of demoralizing, IMO.

IMO, if we're scoring about one more TD per game, this is a defense that will get you to 13 wins, and the Championship game. That's where my focus would be.

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Guam's picture

January 27, 2024 at 10:40 pm

I dunno LH, getting the ball driven down your throat (for scores) on repeated possessions has been pretty demoralizing. I wouldn't mind the deep shots so much if they could be mixed in with some three and outs. I agree it is about keeping the other team from scoring, but there is more than one way to get there.

As to player endorsements, I addressed that above. P. Smith provided one modest endorsement. Multiple other players have sniping at the coaching and one coach flat out left because of Barry. And ultimately, Lafleur fired Barry. I don't think the players or Lafleur had confidence in Barry anymore.

I don't think a new DC is going to magically create a top three defense, but if he can avoid the fourth quarter collapses and actually protect a lead, I will be much happier.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 28, 2024 at 10:00 am

Driven down your throat implies that the defense did not bend, but actually broke. Do you not feel demoralized if we march downfield, eat clock, and either wind up with 3 points or no points? Is that not a defensive win?

Think about it. Ultimately it doesn't matter what the style is, we need a defense that limits points scored. I don't care who the coordinator is. I just want to win.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 28, 2024 at 12:08 pm

Guam, I would suggest that we didn't get the ball driven down our throats on repeated possessions very often, certainly less often than other teams. I mean, we did finish 10th in scoring defense, so if we're not getting takeaways, and we're not giving up many points, then I don't understand how teams could be driving the ball down our throat at a higher than normal average.

The average number of plays in a possession against GB is 6.4, which is one of the higher numbers, but in reality it's only 0.6 plays longer than the average possession in the NFL.

I look at teams like Chicago, Jets, Giants, Panthers.....these defenses get off the field faster than the Packers, but they give up more points than GB, too. And they don't win as many games. I love a 3 and out, but anything that ends the possession short of the endzone is a win in my book. The first rule of defense has always been that you don't just let them throw it over your head. And we were pretty good at that.

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ImaPayne's picture

January 28, 2024 at 10:02 am

It was a god awful foolish scheme that no one else seems to be playing thats how bad it was. Ya lets drop back aka Stokes 15 yards off the line and let the Viking receiver catch that 6 yard pass for a first down and keep them on the field and we go at it again for 3 more downs. How stupid is that.
No we did it because of lack of tackling ability lack of coverage skills, lack of speed to mirror the receivers and lack of hands, lack of size, lack of a lot of things you get from other teams re treads.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 28, 2024 at 12:09 pm

Yes, we should have put the injured Stokes in a better position to give up a long completion.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 28, 2024 at 11:37 am

They drafted Three guys for the secondary with # one picks. It would seem the idea was to have the talent to eliminate the big strikes and let the front end control the short zones, yet this group leaked like a sieve in the middle. players, not plays.

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ImaPayne's picture

January 28, 2024 at 10:00 am

It also keeps your d on the field a long time and mistakes happen both ways as in oh, they just passed 55 yards for a td. Guess who broke.
The irony is I dont like running teams because of the fact that yes, you march down the field slowly and it gives your d a break, but again, at some point you make mistake in those 11 play drives whereas one 35 yard pass can make up for four runs.

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LambeauPlain's picture

January 27, 2024 at 08:30 am

Hire a DC who is welded less to scheme and more focused developing a defensive TEAM that is greater than the sum of its parts. Deliveries of synergies.

And look to a coach who has/will step out the shade of the "coaching tree" to adjust to the constantly changing, parity focused, offense minded NFL.

Even more, bring in a coach who has displayed creativity to adjust the defense every week to attack the next opponent's strengths. Make the offense react to your defense...Barry Ball was a reactive, predictable scheme. How many times did his calls during 3rd and long result in 1st downs well beyond the sticks? Illusion of Complexity on Defense! (Leonard did this consistently as DC...Evero seems very opportunistic too)

And certainly not last, hire a great communicator/teacher with a vision to build a defense opponents fear and respect. It has been awhile. Need to get off the "soft" reputation.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 28, 2024 at 10:03 am

Interesting. Hire someone smart.

Soft reputation doesn't matter to me provided we limit scoring and prove to be entertaining. We can be soft, provided we are high up in the league in INT's, fumbles caused and recovered and scoring defense.

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Coldworld's picture

January 27, 2024 at 08:55 am

The question in my mind is this: if I have a great offense (which we collectively believe we may have) what do we need our defense to do?

Obviously we want them to minimize scoring, but the more incisive answer it seems to me is to get us the ball back on offense as quickly as possible as often as possible.

Bend and not break is designed to limit fast scoring. It’s designed to eat the clock while our O is off the field. Why would that be the way we want to go?

It seems to me to be to be an approach directly contrary to the strengths of our team as we anticipate them. Teams with top QBs should want the ball. Teams with poor ones should want to focus not on possession on O but minimizing how often they need to score. We aren’t that team and, 2022 aside, haven’t been. Why consider continuing to go with a similar philosophy?

Aggression isn’t necessarily blitzing heavily, it’s a matter of how one sees the role of the D. Is it to minimize quick scores or to maximize the speed of return to offense without conceding as often as possible? Barry was definitely the former. Pettine went from being the latter to the former under LaFleur. I hope LaFleur now sees the value of a different concept of the role of his defense.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 27, 2024 at 09:27 am

Minimize scoring is the only metric. The ONLY metric. You get no style points, there's no particular style of defense that is the most effective. There are only points allowed at the end of the day.

It may please the eye to have a defense that attacks like crazy, but take a quick look at the Vikings and see how they finished the year, and how we kicked their asses and made those blitzes look stupid.

I want a unified approach. I want a defense that communicates better than any other in the league. Bend/break, attack, 4-3, 3-4, I just don't care. If it's bend not break, then they damn sure better not break. If it's attack, they damn sure better not give up easy points.

Matt earned the right to pick his guy and have his philosophy run. Barry's shortcoming to me is his defense often looked at odds with itself, guys seemingly not on the same page. That was his inexcusable fault. The new guy better be in lockstep with LaFleur, and have assistants who are the same. No more Jerry Gray's going his own way and undermining the mission. 1 voice on D. I don't care who it is.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 27, 2024 at 04:53 pm

I'm with you, Bitternotsour. It's points. That's how the games are decided. These other metrics are mostly sophistry, IMO.

As a head coach, you'd want the defense to keep the score down so you don't have to score 30 or 40 to have a chance to win. IMO, the break/even point is right around the league average of 23 or 24. I think if you've held your opponent under 24, you've given your team a fair chance to win. If you hold your opponent to 20 or less, you should win most of those. If your opponent goes over 28, you should lose most of those unless your offense is really cooking.

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Coldworld's picture

January 27, 2024 at 05:16 pm

Points can gained and given up. The net best result does not necessarily come from bend-and-not-break. Were it so that’s all we’d ever see and have seen for years.

The optimal answer had never been the least points given up but the greatest differential between those scored and those conceded.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 28, 2024 at 09:26 am

Speaking of the Vikings, I caught this delusional headline yesterday. They obviously are not handling our season and theirs very well.

https://m.startribune.com/green-bay-packers-playoff-failure-randball/600...

Lmao

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dobber's picture

January 27, 2024 at 10:02 am

Agreed. Aggression can be thought of as hammering folks and playing with attitude. I think most people see it as playing downhill and attacking the LOS. It's every bit as much about using play calls that cut the offense off at the knees by beating them to what they want to do. Feel...the playcaller has to have a feel for the game and what the opponent is likely to do. It all adds up, which is why the best of these guys end up running their own teams.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 28, 2024 at 12:11 pm

Our offense finished 12th in scoring, our defense was 10th in scoring defense.

If you have a defense who can consistently keep the score under 25, and one of the better offenses in the league, you'll win most of your games.

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fireball's picture

January 27, 2024 at 09:03 am

I don't know. LaFleur's decision to hire Joe Barry in the first place was a terrible decision. Then he compounded that terrible decision by not getting rid of Barry last year. And now he's allegedly going to keep Barry on " in some capacity "? Wow. A third terrible decision? And besides, what really good new DC would put up with having a failed DC hanging around in any capacity?

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Houndog's picture

January 27, 2024 at 09:25 am

Man, Fireball, you've said a mouthful!
Just hearing the suggestion of keeping Barry around must be as frustrating to some of the players as it is to most of us.
I would be surprised if it didn't play a part in some of the candidates decisions and possibly cost us opportunities.
Put Barry on the next bus!

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CanPackFan's picture

January 27, 2024 at 11:57 am

Keeping Barry on in some capacity is a bad idea in so many ways. But it really emphasizes how MLFs' friendship with Barry is totally counter-productive to team success. And the thought of it influencing DC candidates is a horrible thought. We need the anti-Barry now!

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Houndog's picture

January 27, 2024 at 09:37 am

This is bullshit, keeping Joe Barry "in some capacity"!
WTF and Why? Haven't we all had enough?
What coordinator candidate is going to want (or be forced to keep) a documented loser on his staff?
LaFleur should know better as he got stuck with Pettine when he was hired, how'd that work out for you, Matt?
But then, it was Murphy who refused to cough up the money when LaFleur wanted to hire Darren Rizzi as ST's coordinator.
This has Mark Murphy written all over it, put him on the bus with Joe Barry!

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hobowilly's picture

January 27, 2024 at 09:56 am

Yes, let's share the truth: it was in fact a poor Barry hire in the first place. AND, let's not forget his horrible hire of ST coordinator Drayton, which IMHO lost the NFCCG to SF (I maintain Drayton should have told his punter to take a 3 step get off punt, and plan ahead of GB not getting out of their own deep territory in that instance-i brought this up at the time but no one has responded)..the punt gets off vice blocked and 6 pts and i think GB holds on-they had outplayed SF to that point late in the game. It took mlf 2 wks (?) post season to make the decision to let Drayton go.

How bout GB (i didn't say MLF...does anyone know for a fact it is MLF's decision alone?) hire a DC who will stress fundamentals? Tackling has been a weakness for years. I'd also submit you need a coach who has NFL experience-why would a college coach step in and prove successful right off the bat at this higher level necessarily?

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Coldworld's picture

January 27, 2024 at 01:46 pm

Under the structure it’s s solely his responsibility. He reports only to Murphy, who has said that LaFleur had full control.

That said, there were suggestions that it took an internal push to move on to Bissacia from Drayton, Ball and Murphy caused us to lose Rizzi and Rodgers effectively had Clements hired. So clearly Murphy has some involvement and, through him, the influence of others at times.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 28, 2024 at 01:40 pm

An important truth often ignored in the Rizzi story is that Mrs. Rizzi did not want to live in Green Bay. We can only assume Darren made decisions based upon what was best for his family. For whatever reasons, Miami and now New Orleans were preferable to living in Green Bay. Personally, I blame the collapse of Shopko.

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Houndog's picture

January 29, 2024 at 07:13 am

The Shopko collapse?
Really? I thought it might have had something to do with 'Herbie's Zoo' closing back in the early 80's. One of the greatest dive bars ever in GB.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 28, 2024 at 01:34 pm

You gotta lotta moxie comin' in here, hobowilly! You know dern well you still owe me a tin o' tobacco and a cup of shoelace soup from our days ridin' the eastbound C&O. I'll catch up with you one day, you varmint.

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dobber's picture

January 27, 2024 at 10:12 am

A whole article supposedly about how the Packers need "spice" and two sentences about the guy he'd want to hire and why he's the guy to bring it? "I'd hire him because there are 3 Bulldogs on the roster and the Eagles interviewed him before 2023." THAT'S a spicy meat-ball!

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 28, 2024 at 01:30 pm

The Corner is round, dobber, and time is a flat circle. We've read this article before and we'll read it again, and again. Forever.

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Turophile's picture

January 27, 2024 at 10:37 am

No more bend don't break soft defense. But, be careful what you wish for.

It's almost become a meme, up there with "team 'x' is a soft team and 'hard nose football' (was there ever a soft nose football team).

Along with aggressive, hard-nose football, come many more penalties, more injuries, a less disciplined team that gives up more big plays. Yes, I believe the team 'sat back' too much under Barry, but the full on, pedal-to-the-metal defense can go too far in the other direction.

The real key (I think) to getting the right DC, is to pick one that can balance aggression and 'keep it in front of you' concepts, using whichever seems appropriate at the time. These are the hardest coordinators to predict as they might do anything at any time and are capable of switching gears and adjusting on the fly when one gameplan is not working.

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ricky's picture

January 27, 2024 at 02:37 pm

Just as the offense should be tailored to exploit the weaknesses of the opponents defense, so the defense should be utilized to take away the strengths of the opposing offense. Yes, there should be an overall "coaching philosophy". But tweaking the defense to take away the strength of an opponent would seem to make sense. Good running game? Shut it down, or at least slow it down, and make them more one dimensional. This would have to work in tandem with the offense, though. Get the opponent behind so they have to pass more, and then use the QB's weaknesses against them. Worse when blitzed? Scheme up some new looks to confuse the QB. Likes to run when allowed? Box in the QB and force him to be a pocket passer.

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jannes bjornson's picture

February 03, 2024 at 06:30 pm

You have to secure smart players to pull it off, as with Belichick's crews. Players who can make the calls and adjustments on the fly....

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golfpacker1's picture

January 27, 2024 at 11:10 am

Barry's defensive concept couldn't stop even the bad teams on last years schedule. And there were alot of them. Next years schedule is harder, not easier. It was time for Barry to go and we need to hire someone younger that the players can relate to and fires them up. We are in a good spot. The team is good already, the job should be coveted, and we should have alot of great candidates. Being great with D-backs should be a must.

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HarryHodag's picture

January 27, 2024 at 11:20 am

If MLF is going to hire from the college ranks he would be better off hiring Jim Leonhard who not only ran a really good college defense but learned from some aggressive coaches in his 10 years in the NFL. I'm not sure bringing in an older NFL vet--like Barry was---would be the way to go. A younger coach would be in order.

There's much to be determined with three safeties up for free agency, D. Campbell aging and hurt a lot, Jaire hurt a lot and a little flaky and Quay Walker excellent in spots and not so good in other situations.

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CanPackFan's picture

January 27, 2024 at 12:09 pm

I like the idea of a younger coach re: more emotion. I also like the idea of a college coach because, as said by many, he'll be good at teaching tackling fundamentals. However, the disadvantage of this young/college coach is NFL experience. The NFL is generally a different game ftom college ball. Whoever they pick, may he be aggressive and attack the offenses they face! GPG

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PhantomII's picture

January 27, 2024 at 02:25 pm

DL in the 50's and Edge high 20's does not sound great at all. Upper single digits is where we need to be...Part of that is definitely scheme (DC). Rotation of personnel is also part of it. We are missing Elite level DB's, mainly Safety who is able to see the play develop, be at the right area of the field and make the play on the ball as well as be a sure tackler. Talk of JA saying he may be moved. Either way....we need to get better is scheme and personnel as well as quality depth. GPG

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 28, 2024 at 02:21 pm

Mach None:
#25 Jordan Morgan Arizona LT
#35 Quinyon Mitchell Toledo CB
#44 T'Vondre Sweat Texas DT
#88 Darius Robinson Missouri Edge
#126 Omar Speights LSU ILB
#167 Blake Watson Memphis RB
# 203 M. Mustapha W. Forest S
#242 Cody Schrader Missouri RB
#250 Isaac Guenado Louisville RB

Retain A.Jones, Nixon, Owens. Make a move for Antoine Winfield ,Jr.

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stockholder's picture

January 28, 2024 at 05:29 pm

Watch the replays of Savage in SF.
Pick #25 should be safety.
It sets his draft.
Look at the 5 teams in front of #25
Most mocks have a CB going to them. -
So # 25 Safety.
#CB works but I would take DL now
#44. 2nd Trade? I'll take Payton Wilson @58 /Sweat works @ 41 then
#88- CB here- Kris Abrams- Draine - Climbing
# 92 Rb - Wright, Benson or Cole Bishop s
I'm Not trading any Picks

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 29, 2024 at 12:45 pm

DeJean and Kinchens will be gone by #18. Get a veteran pro bowl guy if they do not franchise Winfield. No SEC guys in the back end. The Number One priority is to Protect Love and I view Walker as a swing tackle/RT. Q Mitchell is now moving up boards. If he falls you have to snag a Press-Cover Corner. Wilson had an All-American year. I like T'Vondre Sweat to shut down the middle in a 4-2 set up which should be the preferred DC's choice for a defensive scheme. Bottom Line: Smarter Players. Read the interview with Spags after their WIN...The DC should have been a secondary coach like Spags, Belichick, Pete Carroll. They know that Today's defenses have to be smart in the backend. Savage should not ever be considered for a re-up. He was a slot CB for Maryland. Stokes is another wasted pick. They could go secondary 1-2-3 like Wolf, but hit on the players. In real terms, I would Move Up for DeJean and solve the safety issue. Gutey World strikes again...you cannot whiff on one picks.

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gsd3's picture

January 27, 2024 at 03:25 pm

Chris Hewitt / Anthony Weaver from the Ravens staff.

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SinceLombardi's picture

January 28, 2024 at 04:27 pm

Just hire Martindale. He always hits the ground running. Great in Baltimore.. took a weak offensive NYG team to the playoffs in 22 on the strength of the defense.
There is no way they should go with an unknown in the NFL.. Martindale will give them a hard nosed attack style defense. We haven’t had that in a long time.

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