Cory's Corner: Browns Are Ripe For A Trade

With a Deshaun Watson suspension looming, the Packers could find a trade partner for Jordan Love. 

If there was a team the Packers could trade Jordan Love to, it would be the Cleveland Browns. 

Cleveland just traded away Baker Mayfield to Carolina and are close to finding out if Deshaun Watson will be suspended by the NFL.

If Watson does get suspended for being in violation of the NFL’s Personal Conduct Policy, the Browns are left with Jacoby Brissett and Joshua Dobbs. Brissett, 29, has only started five games in the last two seasons with five touchdowns and four picks and Dobbs, 27, has only appeared in six games in his NFL career. Since being a 2017 fourth round pick, he has been traded, waived, placed on injured reserve and then claimed by Cleveland. 

The reason why Cleveland is perfect for a trade is because the Browns have a really good roster. They have a pair of very good running backs in Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt, an excellent offensive line and even a good No. 1 wideout in Amari Cooper. 

What the Browns don’t have is a quarterback to put it all together. Obviously, Love would be behind the eight ball because training camp starts in a couple weeks, but with the Watson decision looming, the Browns could potentially be desperate. 

They don’t want to waste a season relying on the oft-injured Brissett and the unproven Dobbs. Granted, Love is also unproven because he has only started one game, but I still hold firm that we really don’t know what Love can really do. 

Maybe what Love showed in Kansas City on Nov. 7 last year is how he will handle pressure. He didn’t recognize the pocket melting around him and he began to panic. Or it could also be a case that he was not ready to play that game as he was thrust into the starting role late in the week because Aaron Rodgers tested positive for COVID-19. 

If Watson is suspended for the majority of this season, it’s worth it for Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst to at least pick up the phone. Take the temperature of Browns general manager Andrew Berry and find out how confident he is with his current depleted stable of quarterbacks. 

If Berry is not, Gutekunst should start high and offer Love for a late second rounder. Will the Browns give up a second rounder? Probably not. But that doesn’t mean that Gutekunst cannot play the leverage game and end up with a third rounder, which is still good value for a quarterback that is unproven.

A lot of you don’t want to trade Love because the Packers don’t have a viable backup aside from him. If the Packers were to trade away Love, the amount of questions surrounding him is only going to get stronger. He will become a free agent in 2024 and will do so by barely getting meaningful snaps now that Rodgers is signed through 2026. 

The only reason that Gutekunst would not want to make this trade is because the moment the deal is agreed upon, Gutekunst is also admitting that he made a mistake by trading up to No. 26 for picks No. 30 and No. 136 in the 2020 NFL Draft.

That’s not an easy thing to do, but in the best interest of the team, it’s the right thing to do. 
 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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arthurl's picture

July 12, 2022 at 06:43 am

Would not be a smart move in my opinion. There has been too much time invested in Love to give up on the guy. He’s played one full game, on the road at KC; that is not sufficient playing time to determine any final evaluation. The other thing is what is the backup plan for after AR? Try drafting another QB where the first round pick probably more than likely will be in the end of the round? No team is trading a decent QB, so there really aren’t any options other than roll the dice and hope Love pans out.

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EricinGB's picture

July 12, 2022 at 04:02 pm

Totally agree. At this point in time, the opportunity cost or downside to keeping Love is losing what the Packers could get in trade, (maybe a 3rd round pick?) is not very much. While the probability might be be lower, the potential upside to keeping Love is much higher...Drafting Love is like buying a new car...it's value rapidly depreciates the first few years...but by the end of the third year, it's probably worth more keeping rather than selling. Would rather see where we are with Love by the end of this season rather than trading.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 12, 2022 at 06:53 am

I'm pretty sure the Browns 3rd rounder is going to Houston next year. The Packers could always offer something back on top of Love for a 2nd round pick but I don't see the Browns being all that enthralled with giving up more picks for a QB. It seemed to me the better option for them was to trade Mayfield for Garoppolo or simply hang on to Mayfield until the verdict was in and then kiss his ass if you had to. But paying him $10.5 million to play for somebody else is an option too I guess.

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NickPerry's picture

July 12, 2022 at 06:54 am

"Maybe what Love showed in Kansas City on Nov. 7 last year is how he will handle pressure. He didn’t recognize the pocket melting around him and he began to panic. Or it could also be a case that he was not ready to play that game as he was thrust into the starting role late in the week"

I'm on the side of those who feel we really don't know what the Packers have in Jordan Love. The game-plan against KC was made for Aaron Rodgers and wasn't changed once Rodgers was out. Granted, I would have liked to see Love handle the pressure better and just play a little better overall. BUT, let us remember that start was IN Kansa City, one of the loudest and most difficult places to play. MLF didn't do him any favors with any blitz beaters either. At the end of the evening, Love and the Packers lost to Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs 13-7. The Packers ST also cost the Packers 8 points with a missed and a blocked FG and a muffed punt. Love wasn't very good by any stretch but he sure in the hell didn't lose that game for GB either.

I'm not going to debate if Gute did or didn't make a mistake. That was 3 drafts ago...LET IT GO! I also highly doubt the Browns are giving up a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Love and frankly I'd rather wait it out and see how he does his preseason. Aaron Rodgers may be under contract until 2026, but I don't think that really means much when it comes to Rodgers. He may walk away any year, ESPECIALLY if they win a SB this year.

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murf7777's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:50 am

NP….great comments about KC…I was at the stadium that day and you’re right it was very loud and windy conditions. Mahommes had a bad day as well and we know how good he is. I suspect Love will be very important back up to the Packers this year and more than likely will start a game or more.

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KKB's picture

July 12, 2022 at 08:05 am

I would not trade Love for a 3rd. ImO theater is a bad value, and the optics of trading a #1 pick for just a third would be embarrassing. Plus it provides no help for this ALL,-IN season.
HOWEVER, a trade for a quality TE like Nyoku would provide value THIS year, and minimize the draft pick comparison argume t.

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scoonie_penn's picture

July 12, 2022 at 06:58 am

Ron Wolfe used to say it's not making a mistake that hurts your team, it's not admitting you made a mistake and moving on from that decision that hurts. Wolfe made a mistake hiring Ray Rhodes, admitted as much and fired him after one season. He took a ton of grief, but he was right to admit his mistake and correct it.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

July 12, 2022 at 06:50 pm

Lol Ron Wolfe was the biggest advocate for qb development. Where do you think Thompson and Gutekunst got the idea to draft qbs in the 1st round when they already had hall of famers on the roster? Never in a million years would he even consider trading a 1st round pick qb after 1 only start. People really need to get off this obsessive Jordan Love hate wagon. Its pathetic.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:33 pm

Wolf never drafted a QB in the 1st round.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

July 12, 2022 at 11:13 pm

He traded a 1st rounder for Favre even tho Favre was a 2nd round pick with the Falcons and wasnt even good enough to start for them and they still had Majkowski. Then Favre went on to have a decent 2nd season (19 tds and 13 ints) and a horrible 3rd season (19 tds and 24 ints). Favre was 24 his 3rd year. Love is only 23. Wolfe didnt panic and cut bait on Favre. He stuck to the plan just like Gutekunst is going to do.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 13, 2022 at 05:31 pm

That's not the point. Wolf never drafted a QB in the 1st round when he had a HOF QB on the roster. Did he draft a QB pretty much every year? Yes, probably because he trusted Holmgren as a QB guru and knew he could get something for them down the road. Have TT and Gutey done that? No. In fact I wish Gutey would have started to do that instead of drafting Love when Rodgers' new deal had just kicked in.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

July 13, 2022 at 05:44 pm

It is the point. That point being, Wolfe believed in having a plan for quarterback development and so does Gutekunst. Does it really make a difference whether one was a draft pick or traded for after only throwing 4 passes in the NFL? Wolfe trading for Favre waa a bold move and his plan for Favre's development as well as his patience to see it through paid off in the biggest of ways. Gutekunst also made a bold move drafting Love. You better believe he had a plan in place before he ever sent that draft card in and you better believe he intends on seeing it through. These guys dont get to where they are by making kneejerk, emotionally driven decisions like fans do. These are shrewd and disciplined men who are firm in their beliefs and philosophies on how to do their jobs. They dont just throw in the towel.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 14, 2022 at 03:14 am

"Where do you think Thompson and Gutekunst got the idea to draft qbs in the 1st round when they already had hall of famers on the roster?"

That's exactly what you said. When did Wolf draft a QB in the 1st round when Favre was on the roster? You could say Gutey learned it from TT and that would be true. And the salary cap implications are much different now then they were in Wolf's or TT's time. I wish Gutey had gone the Wolf route and drafted a day 2 or day 3 QB every year rather than do what he did. It probably doesn't pan out but taking 4 or 5 swings at them while Rodgers was still there makes more sense than losing a player in 4 years if Rodgers is still playing.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

July 14, 2022 at 10:20 am

You dont get it. I'm highlighting Wolfe's philosophy to always have a plan at quarterback. Also worth noting, Wolfe left the Packers in 2001 when Favre was only 32. He had absolutely no reason to get aggressive and spend a 1st rounder on a qb at that time. Rodgers was 37 and had been injured 2 of the last 4 years. If Wolfe was in Gutekunst's shoes, I guarantee he wouldve gotten aggressive to acquire a quarterback to groom and he wouldnt give up on them after 1 start either.

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Nate-1980's picture

July 13, 2022 at 04:58 am

Rts we’ll get off the hate Jordan love wagon when you and other posters get off the Rodgers hate wagon which is also pathetic, prob even more so..:)

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

July 13, 2022 at 04:51 pm

For the record, I was one of the small few who actually wanted to give Rodgers a chance back when he was the underling. I'm old enough to remember the scorn he was met with from many fans. I'm old enough to remember Ted Thompson being a hated man for drafting him. I'm old enough to remember Packer fans booing him viciously at the Family Night Scrimmage one year when he looked lousy. And my personal favorite was all the fans demanding they trade Rodgers for Randy Moss. And I was like hey maybe we should just give the guy a chance? I was one of his biggest fans and defenders for a lot of years. Only after 10+ years of whimpering losses in the playoffs and all his pompous nonsense that I resigned from the fanclub. I didnt just wake up and start blindly hating him. He brought this on himself with his own egotistical bs. Love has done nothing to deserve such hatred from "fans." All the kid has done is keep his mouth shut and work his butt off. But the best part is, once he turns the corner, ya'll will be wearing his jersey just like all the fans who hated Rodgers in the beginning without a single hint of irony.

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TarynsEyes's picture

July 13, 2022 at 05:20 pm

I was right there with you in spirit/support with Rodgers and why my name was Tarynfor12, and like you, I started to wane in my absolutism for Rodgers, hence the name change, though he is still the best thing the Packers have on the team. Love will need to do much before I get his jersey, but to be honest, I do not see it happening.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

July 13, 2022 at 05:32 pm

Thats fair. Im not expecting anyone to crown Love the next hall of famer. But he is a Green Bay Packer so I would expect people could at least support him. He's wearing the Green and Gold and that makes him our guy.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 14, 2022 at 08:28 pm

Rich Campbell wore a Packer uniform too.

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egbertsouse's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:01 am

If the Packer FO doesn’t know what they have in Love at this point they should be fired for gross incompetence. I think they know and would trade him tomorrow if they could get a decent offer. Otherwise, they will just let him hang around as a backup until some team gets really desperate or Bill O’Brien gets back in the NFL.

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Turophile's picture

July 13, 2022 at 05:49 am

I still want to see what Love has this training camp and preseason. As for the Packers front office being fired if they don't know what they have, this is not a stationary target to aim at.

Love has improved and will continue to. The real question is what his ceiling is......... and THAT becomes clearer as he gains playing time.

Keep Love for now. By the end of preseason we will all have a much better idea on the degree of his improvement. He could still be the future Packers starting QB, you just need to have enough patience to let it all play out.

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gkarl's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:03 am

Why would you trade your backup QB, who the GBP have invested three years and a first round draft pick, for a third round pick when this suppose to be a SB or bust year.

If AR get hurts and Gute traded Love for a third round pick and we missed the playoffs everyone would be screaming for Gute's head.

If drafting Love was a mistake, and I'm not sure that it was yet, you don't compound that mistake with another by trading him away for next to nothing.

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murf7777's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:53 am

A side note to drafting Love is this question. After two sub-par Arod years would Arod had two MVP years if they didn’t draft Love? He sure seems to do his best work when he feels unappreciated.

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Nate-1980's picture

July 13, 2022 at 05:03 am

If Rodgers goes down the season is over anyway, so it doesn’t really matter, unless you believe Love can not only win a few regular season games, but playoff games ha.. No way in hell..

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Turophile's picture

July 13, 2022 at 05:51 am

Stranger things have happened.

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GregC's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:09 am

You missed the main reason why the Browns might be the best candidate for a trade: They are completely bonkers. Other than that, it's hard to see why they would want Love at this point. The fact that they have a lot of talent on their roster probably works against Love because they should be looking for a more experienced QB.

Looking at it from the Packers' point of view, a trade for a second or third round pick would probably be worth it. With Aaron Rodgers likely to stick around for a couple more years, Love may not get a chance to start in Green Bay anyway. I just don't think they could get that high a pick for him. But I don't like the idea of trading him away for a lower pick because there's still a chance he could develop into a good QB, even though he hasn't shown much so far.

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dobber's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:56 am

You hit this right on the money: the Browns should have no interest in Jordan Love. With a roster they hope to win with right now, a QB they've committed to until the roaches take over, and a ton of available cap space, WHY would they bring in an unproven kid (who doesn't know the offense) like Love?

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mrtundra's picture

July 12, 2022 at 08:11 am

Love hasn't shown much because he only played in one game, for the Packers! Give him some meaningful reps before we toss him onto the trash heap. I do not understand why so many fans are on the trade Love bandwagon. Will those fans be saying the same thing about Watson, Walker or Doubs, by mid season? I'll be interested in how Love plays in camp and in preseason. I'm betting he does alright.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:40 pm

I think the decision to give Watson that crazy contract was completely on Haslam. Watson's people were saying the day before the Browns were out of the running as far as trading for him and then suddenly all that changed. I think it's because Haslam said do whatever you have to to get him here. The GM and/or coach will probably be fired in a year or two because of it but that's nothing new since Haslam got there.

It will be interesting to see how Watson looks when he returns if he does get suspended for a whole year. Wouldn't be a shocker if he isn't as good as previously and the Browns made yet another blunder.

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Coldworld's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:25 am

Actual football activity and thus content can not come soon enough.

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SanLobo's picture

July 12, 2022 at 06:06 pm

Hear hear

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Guam's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:39 am

Sorry, but this article makes no sense to me at all. The Packers have a 38/39 year old QB1 who has missed games in recent years due to injury. That same QB1 essentially has a year-to-year contract and has openly mentioned retirement after this year. This is also supposed to be an "all-in" year to get to the Super Bowl. So the Packers are supposed to trade their back up QB (and injury replacement for Rodgers) and first round replacement for QB1 when he retires for maybe a 2nd round draft choice?

Kind of begs the question why, doesn't it? Cory seems to assume Love is a bust (mistake) and should be unloaded. Do the Packers really know that Love is a bust? Remember the Packers didn't really know what they had in Rodgers until his third year. What happens if Love isn't a bust and Rodgers retires after winning a SB this year?

Further, why would the Browns give up a draft choice for a supposed bust (mistake) when they have a veteran backup (Brissett) who has proven he is an adequate backup and sometime starter in the NFL?

This article doesn't make sense to me on a number of levels.

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dobber's picture

July 12, 2022 at 08:02 am

Brissett is not a good QB, but there are still "not good" QBs who can be had who are better than Brissett, yet. If they need a QB to take a roster they think can contend through a whole season, pony up a few bucks for Cam Newton, or get Gardner Minshew.

"This article doesn't make sense to me on a number of levels."

You're being kind.

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Guam's picture

July 12, 2022 at 04:36 pm

I don't like dissing authors here because they are doing this for free and offer readers/commenters a great deal of food thought. That said, Cory sometimes just puts out a head scratcher.

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marpag1's picture

July 12, 2022 at 11:55 pm

"Cory's Corner" is kind of like your father's stack of old Playboy magazines. No one actually goes there to read the articles.

Enjoy the comment section.

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Spock's picture

July 13, 2022 at 06:54 am

"Cory's Corner" is kind of like your father's stack of old Playboy magazines. No one actually goes there to read the articles." lol, this is the best off-season comment this year!

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 13, 2022 at 05:42 pm

Playboy actually used to have some really good writers and had some famous authors writing short stories for them back in the day. But don't get me wrong, I liked lip reading too!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

July 12, 2022 at 08:42 am

Nice response Guam!

All these people who are in a frenzy to trade Love...I just don't get it! Packers used a 1st and a 4th rounder to get him. He is entering year 3 with slightly more than one full game in the NFL, and he played reasonably well. Love provides a quality backup to Rodgers, and being younger than some of the Packer draft choices in 2022 he is only going to physically/mentally improve his game each year in the league. For the Packers to trade him for even a 2nd rounder would be insane.

The Packers used #53, and gave up #59 to select Watson. Love only has 1 game experience more, so should we trade Watson as well?

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Packers0808's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:42 am

I would think this is just too late for this year to trade Love to anyone. As someone on here said if Rodgers gets hurt what or who do you have to replace him for a short duration or long haul. Love knows the playbook and with some tweets and other changes he can be very serviceable for the season. If you want to jettison him at the end of this season would be the time to do it. Maybe Rodgers had one or two more seasons left in him after this year. The one other thing here is IF Love reads any of this stuff printed and/or speculated about him makes you wonder how his head is still screwed on straight. Give the man a break for a while!

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HarryHodag's picture

July 12, 2022 at 08:41 am

The Packers trade Love for a draft pick or two to some team. The pick up Izzy Schwartz, a veteran QB with a checkered past to back up Rodgers, along with Etling. At the end of the season the ever excitable Aaron Rodgers decides to call it a career.

So the Packers now have Izzy to lead them to the Super Bowl. Or a UFDA. They might hit it lucky and find a starting QB in the draft, probably not, given their draft position and the ridiculous draft compensation it would take to move up. Even then, you don't know what you're getting.

To trade Love now is utterly absurd. He's been in the system to know it in and out. If Rodgers calls it a career, Love would certainly be better than some failed veteran or a UFDA. What do you know, he might even be good. We don't know yet.

To think that you could 'unload' Love on some team is pure, utter nonsense. Give him a chance to earn his money and give him a break.

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Jgilmor08's picture

July 12, 2022 at 09:26 am

I’m of the group that thinks this decision ultimately was not the best choice drafting Love. I understand why and I certainly don’t fault the front office for being proactive. It should be extremely telling that Love is not a player the organization will lean on. If he was, there’s no way you let a young controlled asset walk away, when your current qb has openly said he only has two years left. I kind of think what we’ve seen from Love is pretty much what you get. A QB who will throw for the same amount of TDs as INts and complete roughly 62% of his throws. You can compete with a strong roster around him but he probably won’t be the guy. When KC drafted Maholmes it took one year then Alex Smith was gone, he didn’t play in a single game before trading away a solid qb that’s how obvious his talent and abilities were. The fact the team signed Rodgers to an extension should all but express that this lotto ticket didn’t hit big.

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T7Steve's picture

July 12, 2022 at 09:30 am

If AR gets hurt this year (heaven forbid) Love could be the next Carson Wentz (Sp?). He wouldn't have made it this far if the FO and coaches didn't think he could do it. After we win the Super Bowl we can look back and say I'm glad we did it the "Packer way".

No one's talking about how this article started. How long should Watson be suspended? He already missed all of last year. Does that count? If he did these things, why wasn't he charged? If he did, he should be out of the NFL for good!

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Nate-1980's picture

July 13, 2022 at 05:20 am

Am I on fantasy island ??

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

July 12, 2022 at 09:34 am

Why in the world would we want to trade our first round backup QB that we are developing? Do you think Rodgers is going to play another 10 years?? I don’t get the logic.

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TarynsEyes's picture

July 12, 2022 at 09:52 am

If this season is a truly believed 'SB or Bust' season then trading Love is moronic at best, as the best chance would reside in having Love take over if Rodgers misses games this year. There'll be teams in the market for a Love next year, there always are.

Whether Love is extended/traded/non-optioned for 5th year is all predicated on Rodgers, the success of this season, the expected/hoped-for step-up of some, and the hoped-for advanced play of the many rookies, which will weigh heavy in the mind of Rodgers and his decision to stay on or retire.

The FO has to protect itself against a Rodgers retirement decision and to do that they must keep Love until they believe they found another, as trading Love now and having Rodgers retire after this season, would be catastrophic to the Packers going forward for who knows how long with the comfort of winning Division Titles to keep warm will disappear also.

There's much riding on Love, and the FO/HC should do everything possible in this camp to justify whatever decision they make about his future in GB, not to dismiss that Love needs to help make his case to stay relevant in the NFL for trade value if it comes to that.

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PatrickGB's picture

July 12, 2022 at 11:08 am

You nailed it. It’s not too soon to keep an eye on a transition time. Love could end up being the starter before we get our next MVP QB! ;-)
In any case, if Love does well in preseason that would tell me that the team plans on keeping him. One minor concern is his cap number for a fifth year option.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:58 pm

That's way more than a minor concern. They have to make a decision next Spring on his 5th year option and no way they can afford to pay both of them. Even if Rodgers said 2023 is his last year and they pick up Love's option the dead money hit on Rodgers deal along with Love's roughly $20 million will cause the whole roster to be reshuffled.

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PatrickGB's picture

July 13, 2022 at 08:09 am

True. My remark was an understatement.

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ricky's picture

July 12, 2022 at 09:52 am

The Browns have already indicated they are ready to start Jacoby Brisset this season if Watson faces suspension. Why on Earth would they trade for a QB who has less experience? Even if Watson is gone for the year, trading for Love would be an incredibly stupid move. And, yes, it's the Browns, so who knows? But they're already stuck with a QB they have committed unprecedented money and draft picks to attain. And the NFL seems pretty adamant about a minimum of one year's suspension, or possibly longer. Also, if the Packers unload Love, they are going to be desperate for a QB if Rodgers decides to retire next year. All in all, no, no and no. Bad idea. Though it is the "dead time" for the NFL, and time to try to cause some controversy to keep the site alive. So, kudos for doing that.

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July 12, 2022 at 10:25 am

If the Packers consider trading Love for any reason at all it should only be for a proven player who could actually contribute to an SB run this season. That player should be either an OL who could start or Amari Cooper or another similar veteran player. I would not trade Love for draft picks who could end up contributing nothing to the team.

As for the Browns if they are planning on playing the season without Watson why would they give up any of their starting players for a QB who has only played 6 quarters of regular season football.

This trade/article doesn’t make sense for either team. I don’t see it happening but stranger things have been known to happen. Thanks, Since ‘61

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 12, 2022 at 11:16 am

The Browns have already traded away 3/1st round picks, 1/3rd, and 2/4ths. Now the author is suggesting they would be willing to give up a 2nd rounder on top of all the rest of that draft capital for Love, a guy who has played 6 quarters of NFL football? I realize they're the Browns, but geezus, c'mon!

As far as the Packers, why on earth would they trade away their backup QB for a draft pick that won't even be on the team this year? I notice the author didn't offer any suggestions as to who would be OUR backup QB THIS year.

Sorry, but not only no, but HELL no.

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wildbill's picture

July 12, 2022 at 11:17 am

Not a fan of Love(Kizer 2.0) but let’s be real. He hasn’t been given a lot of opportunities to really relax and settle down in a game. The KC game was a very tough outing but it’s not like Rodgers, or Favre, have never had a tough outing on the road. Sure their sample size is much larger but on any given day an athletic can play way above or below their capabilities.
The key is to work towards their strengths and avoid putting them in a position of weakness. Us being all in, it would be foolish to trade Love this year. We are one Rodgers injury from having the whole year go down the drain if there is no capable backup.

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 12, 2022 at 11:23 am

"Us being all in, it would be foolish to trade Love this year."

IF, according to you Love is no better than Kizer...who was awful by the way...why do you care?

Still waiting on your reasoning as to why you think Love is Kizer 2.0, which you have posted on here repeatedly with nothing to back it up.

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Nate-1980's picture

July 13, 2022 at 05:37 am

At this point he is kizer 2.0, he has a losing record and more ints than tds.. I get the small sample size but the guy has done next to nothing to prove he isn’t.. Time will tell but everyone on here has their doubts( even the coaching staff), the only thing love has going for him is optimism and speculation..

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 13, 2022 at 08:49 am

Kizer has a 2-16 record as an NFL starter. Love is 0-1 after ONE start. Yeah, they're exactly the same...lol. Stay off the weed Nate.

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HarryHodag's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:28 pm

If you recall, were it not for two special teams gaffs by Crosby and the anemic special teams unit the Packers could have won that game. Crosby had two tough kicks but he's made tougher ones. A victory there would have quieted the group saying Love can't do it.

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CJ Bauckham's picture

July 12, 2022 at 11:22 am

Corey's back! Love to the Browns, and Janis to TE!

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Leatherhead's picture

July 12, 2022 at 11:46 am

Trading Love would be galactically stupid. I mean, let's go ahead and run our franchise like Detroit. Let's stagger around in the wilderness looking for a QB and grasping at Cutler and Trubisky and Bilgewater and Cousins. Let's trade away a QB who can take a team to the Super Bowl for a draft pick that we're going to end up wasting anyway.

Green Bay, going back 30 years now to Wolf's arrival, believes in drafting and developing QBs. Chicago believes in drafting and throwing them into the fire. Minnesota likes to trade for QBs. Why on Earth is any Packer fan suggesting that we do business like the less successful franchises do?

I don't think some of you get this, so I'm going to spell it out plainly: Aaron Rodgers played poorly in the playoff loss, not only failing do to anything after the first drive but also leading a pair of deadly three and outs that kept SF alive when even a first down or two would have meant the difference. Now, this year, one of two things is going to happen if we reach the playoffs. One, Rodgers is going to be much improved and we're going to roll,or Two, he won't, in which case I'm pretty sure it's his last game as a Packer.

That would put Love as the starter next summer, after 3 years on the bench, just like Rodgers. A late first round pick that sat and learned behind a HOFer and then had a strong team around him when he took the field. Does that sound like Detroit? Chicago? Minnesota? Or does it sound like an organization that believes you win by drafting and developing QBs, and who realizes the best time to get a QB is when you don't need one.

So, drafting Love was part of a plan. Developing Love was part of a plan. Having a guy ready to take over for Rodgers is part of the plan. Trading away our future starting QB for draft pick is not part of the plan, and it's really a stupid idea, too, IMO.

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TarynsEyes's picture

July 12, 2022 at 01:43 pm

"Let's trade away a QB who can take a team to the Super Bowl"

Whoa there!!! I'm not on the trade Love wagon, at the moment, but do you even understand the level of play Love needs to show in camp to make your statement remotely possibly true.

Your 3rd paragraph suggests the loss is all on Rodgers. He certainly contributed, but seriously, stop.

"That would put Love as the starter next summer, after 3 years on the bench, just like Rodgers. A late first-round pick that sat and learned behind a HOFer and then had a strong team around him when he took the field."

You assume much in your tirade.

First, stop the comparison angle as though these cloned outcomes are stored in a jar and you just pluck one out.

Just because the shoe size is the same doesn't mean they fill or walk in them the same.

Secondly, not all 'plans' work out to a preconceived level of success, and Love by his small sample size, though small, but enough to add fuel to both sides of the argument for and against him, seems to have suffered a derailment of sorts that the FO kneeled to kiss the ring of Rodgers and meet his demands which spoke much to the Love plan without having to verbally say it aloud. That is what reading between the lines means, and what you simply do not want to do or hear from others.

Could Love become what will be known as the 3rd-in-a-row HOF QB for the Packers, anything is possible, but that fantasy isn't enough to erase the more likely truth that it isn't very plausible? Not to mention that the actual 'strength' of this team has not been seen to believe it strong enough to make Love what you already claim him to become.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 12, 2022 at 03:02 pm

Dude, Stafford for a decade wasn't squat and then he gets traded and wins a Super Bowl.

Plans frequently don't work, but that's no excuse for not having one. The Packers plan is to prepare the franchise for the post-Rodgers era by selecting a blue chip prospect in the draft and developing him over years so he's ready, and to make certain he has a good team around him.

There is absolutely ZERO evidence this plan isn't working. Way back in the day, when Murphy replaced Thompson with his protege, Gutekunst, I am 100% confident that the transition to a post-Rodgers team was discussed, and part of that discussion was selecting a quality college QB and developing him.

Nobody knows when the Rodgers era ends. It could be Week 1, Week 8, the end of the season, the end of the next season.......but when it does, we're not going to be floundering around desperately looking for our next starter. I have no idea if he'll be an HOFer, any more than I did that Rodgers would be.

Yeah, I think this is a strong team Taryn. I think this is the strongest Packer team, heading into training camp, that I've ever seen. And I think we're stronger at QB than just about any team in history. We return a guy who has just won his second MVP in a row, and he's backed up by a first round pick who's in his third season. How many teams in NFL history started the season this strong at QB?

One more time for all the slow learners: In two seasons, Love has shown more than Rodgers did in his first two seasons. It would have been stupid to trade away Rodgers, and it would be equally stupid to trade away Love, and it's not going to happen, because the people in the front office are not stupid, they have a plan, and the plan is working.

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TarynsEyes's picture

July 12, 2022 at 04:08 pm

"Dude, Stafford for a decade wasn't squat and then he gets traded and wins a Super Bowl."

It was one thing to dis on Stafford while a Lion, but another to actually think him as being squat. Are you saying crap to support a fantasy belief for Love?

"The Packers plan is to prepare the franchise for the post-Rodgers era by selecting a blue-chip prospect"

Love was not a 'blue-chip' prospect, nor is he now a 'blue-chip player',

"I think this is the strongest Packer team, heading into training camp, that I've ever seen"

Your 'blind optimism' is showing something fierce.

"One more time for all the slow learners: In two seasons, Love has shown more than Rodgers did in his first two seasons."

Some of us, or perhaps it's just directed to me, might be slow learners, but you have learned nothing to think this a truth, because if it were, Rodgers wouldn't be in GB as the 'starting QB' today.

I do agree that trading Love now is stupid, but he needs to show much more to prove it's not stupid after this camp before, or after this season.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 12, 2022 at 09:03 pm

I feel like I've lost touch with reality now because I have to agree with Taryn!

Saying the Packers drafted Love because it worked with Rodgers is like saying "Well, I'm going to play the lottery even more now that I've won it once." I don't remember the exact numbers but I read last year the hit rate for QBs between 2003-2019 was better in the 2nd round than the bottom half of round one.

I haven't completely written off Love, although I find his inaccuracy when throwing off platform to be very worrisome. At this point if Rodgers goes down for any length of time I don't have much confidence in Love salvaging the season unless the defense is so good he can Brad Johnson them to the playoffs.

From a strictly monetary standpoint drafting him when Rodgers new contract had just kicked in the year before was a huge mistake. If Rodgers wants to play 2 more years after this one Love is gone and Gutey would be wise to get what he can for him next year.

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TarynsEyes's picture

July 13, 2022 at 12:07 am

"I feel like I've lost touch with reality now because I have to agree with Taryn!"

You didn't lose touch with reality, you're beginning to find it.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 13, 2022 at 08:19 am

Love was not a blue chip player? He was a CONSENSUS first round pick. It’s fantasy to believe otherwise, not reality..

And yes, by any objective measure, Love did more last year than Rodgers did his first two seasons. Fact and truth.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 14, 2022 at 03:27 am

That's not true, he was a borderline 1st round pick. Quite a few lists had him going in the 2nd round. Zierlein had a 1-2 round grade on him and a laundry list of weaknesses:
-Consistency and production took massive step backward in 2019
-Looping windup part of slower operation time
-Too much staring and telegraphing
-Six games with multiple interceptions, including three pick-sixes
-Below-average decision-making against zone looks
-Allowed coverage to swarm due to lack of anticipation
-Unusually spotty ball placement forced targets to work for catches
-Completed just 31.8 percent of his deep throws
-Doesn't slide to safer launch points enough
-Will void viable pockets at times
-Needs to use eyes to hold safeties longer
-Issues bringing in off-target snaps, leading to fumbles

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jordan-love/32004c4f-5613-0776-be4c-ce231b...

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DanW's picture

July 12, 2022 at 04:09 pm

I agree with you (and others) that Green Bay should NOT trade Jordan Love at this point for many of the reasons given already in this thread. But at the beginning of your comment you say, "Stafford for a decade wasn't squat and then he gets traded and wins a Super Bowl." ... Stafford "wasn't squat"? Are you serious? Or maybe you were trying to say that Detroit "wasn't squat", and so when they traded him to a very good team, he was able to win a Super Bowl.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 12, 2022 at 07:11 pm

You are correct. A more precise comment would have been that Stafford was a capable QB who couldn't win in Detroit. Even with some good players around him.

My point, which I obviously did a poor job of making, was that it is unwise in the extreme to trade away a decent QB, and that by all indications, Love has a very good chance of being a decent QB. We have him under contract for this year, next year, and the next if we wish, and he's one injury to an old guy away from becoming the most important person on the team.

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DanW's picture

July 12, 2022 at 09:03 pm

Thanks for the clarification. I totally agree with your assessment. It's important to keep Jordan Love as the backup this year, to allow enough time for the high investment in draft capital to pay off, which hopefully comes in the form of a very good starting QB for Green Bay in the future.

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 12, 2022 at 03:15 pm

""Let's trade away a QB who can take a team to the Super Bowl"

I don't know what's more comical...assuming Love is a bust after 6 quarters of football or that he's ready to take us to the Super Bowl after 6 quarters of football.
And to assume Love sitting behind a HOF QB for 3 years will have the same results as Rodgers sitting behind a HOF QB is wishful thinking and myopic. I hope it happens, but the odds aren't overwhelmingly high that it will.

I had to pretend I was replying to your post Taryn, because if I directly replied to "you know who", the usual "you're obsessed with me" nonsense would rear it's ugly head.

Anyway, I thought your post was spot on.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 13, 2022 at 07:49 am

A classic post whereby Princess Nitwit shows her wit by picking nits

“CAN”. It doesn’t mean will. It means can. As in quite a few first round QBs have taken their teams to the Super Bowl.

And no, I’m not saying Rodgers is Favre or Love is Rodgers. I’m saying the organization has a way of doing things….draft a blue chip, let him sit and learn.

So keep showing your wit, pick those nits, and continue to show you aren’t obsessed.

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 13, 2022 at 09:11 am

I respond to dozens of different posters on here all the time. Some I agree with, some I don't. Dozens of different posters on here respond to my posts. Some agree with them, some don't.

Yet none of them claim I'm obsessed with them simply by responding to something they post. Only you. And considering that you are quite the prolific poster and I maybe respond to about 5% of them that's rather strange. I guess I'm in your head for some reason. It seems you're the one with the obsession.

I actually enjoy reading your posts. I really do marvel at your ability to cherry pick facts to prove whatever point you're trying to make. It's impressive.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 13, 2022 at 09:58 am

You're an obsessed, mentally ill, person.

If you want to agree/disagree with something, try to find a nit other than "Can". I mean, I write 300 words, and you pick one to show your wit.

I CAN eat a 18 oz steak, it doesn't mean I'm going to. I CAN ignore you, you CANNOT ignore me. I CAN NOT lead the Packers to a Super Bowl. I CANNOT persuade you to stop obsessing on me. Jordan Love CAN lead the Packers to a Super Bowl....it doesn't mean he will.

I could have said "MIGHT", or 'Possibly" and you'd have just found another word to pick a nit on. Because you're a nitwit. An obsessed nitwit, who apparently likes the abuse that I give you, because if you didn't, you'd stop asking for it.

Ironically, you actually AGREE with me that trading Love would be foolish. But you just had to find a way to take a shot at me, so you found the word "can". Congratulations.

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 13, 2022 at 10:23 am

You're the one who keeps making things personal, not me. I just occasionally disagree with you, just like I occasionally disagree with other folks on here. For some reason I've gotten into your head. That's your problem, not mine.

You keep doing you...like calling people who disagree with you the "slow crowd". If, on occasion, you post something I disagree with, I may call you on it. Or not. Seeing as how this is a public forum, that's totally my prerogative.

I am now done with this topic. Have a great day pookie.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 13, 2022 at 11:35 am

Are you kidding me? OR did you have a stroke?

DO YOU REMEMBER SAYING "FUCK YOURSELF" , IN ALL CAPS, more than once?

That's not personal? That pretty much supports my belief that you're mentally ill, because it kind of makes "name calling" kind of weak sauce.

I taught Special Ed. Some people are slow learners, and some are quick learners. Wear the shoe that fits. You don't read well, that's been demonstrated many times. If that stings, too bad.

The vast, overwhelming % of posters here don't get criticized by me, even when we disagree. I don't call them a "Princess" or a "Nitwit". I don't think they're mentally ill. Why do you suppose I think that about you?

Oddly, on the rare occasions when you confine your posts to actual football, you make some decent points. But I don't respond to you, whether I disagree or agree, because I'm trying to coexist with somebody who I think is mentally ill. I've asked you to do the same, but you can't, because you're obsessed.

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HarryHodag's picture

July 13, 2022 at 08:04 am

Love doesn't have to be another HOF'er. All he has to do is be competent. If the Packers defense will be as good as I think, they only need a touchdown per half and maybe a field goal.

There have been generations of Packers fans who grew up thinking the only way to win is score 30+ points and throw 50 passes. Not true.

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Johnblood27's picture

July 12, 2022 at 01:49 pm

I have nothing to add to this ^^^

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TarynsEyes's picture

July 12, 2022 at 02:23 pm

I assume you left your standard checkmark for me though.

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Johnblood27's picture

July 12, 2022 at 06:52 pm

nothing standard, sometimes good, sometimes not quite so much.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 12, 2022 at 06:17 pm

I do.

From the 2005 draft, when we took Aaron Rodgers, through the end of the 2020 draft, when we took Love, 45 QBs were drafted in the first round.

9 of those QBs took a team to the Super Bowl. At least 15 would have to be considered pretty good starting QBs. (A. Smith, Arod, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Cam Newton, Luck, Winston, Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Alexander, Joe Burrow, Josh Herbert, Tua.

Additionally, if you can cross a road without getting killed (Haskins) or avoid crossing the line (Watson) or were not drafted by Cleveland (Weedon, Quinn, Mayfield, Manziel), you have better than a 20% chance of taking a team to the Super Bowl.

So yeah, I do think it's more likely that Jordan Love can take us to a Super Bowl than it is that he's Kizer 2.0. In fact, I think it's probable that Jordan Love was scouted by an excellent personnel department, drafted by a pretty knowledgeable GM, and developed by a pretty good coach behind a guy who knows how to play the position. I would submit that his chances are BETTER than 20%.

So, to recap:

It's stupid to trade away a guy who has a very good chance at being a good starting QB.
It's not the way this organization operates.

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I didn't mention some guys. Cutler. Trubisky, Marriota, Bortles. I wouldn't have Cutler on my team, but maybe a guy like Trubisky isn't done writing their story yet. There were about 10-15 guys who never did squat, but better than half became starters in this league. I was just trying to get a general sense of what a reasonable expectation is of a first round QB. My conclusion is that they take teams to the playoffs and Super Bowls more often than you'd think.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 12, 2022 at 08:10 pm

Now go back and do that first round QB exercise just looking at the QBs taken with picks 15-32. The result is very different. Between Rodgers and Lamar Jackson it's a whole bunch of meh or worse.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 13, 2022 at 10:00 am

I did what you asked. I’m not sure why you designated 15-32. I chose 17-32, since that is the bottom half of the round. Of the 45 QBs selected in the first round from 2005-2020, only a very few came in the bottom half of the round.

Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, Lamar Alexander. Teddy Bridgewater. Some Browns, Manziel and Quinn, some Broncos, Lynch and Tebow. That’s about it.

So IMO, this actually strengthens my point. If you’re a QB drafted in the bottom half of the first round by an organization that knows what they’re doing, like the Packers or Ravens, you’ve got a pretty good chance at being a decent player. If you’re drafted by the Broncos or Browns, you probably won’t do much.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 13, 2022 at 08:14 am

Duplicate

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TarynsEyes's picture

July 13, 2022 at 12:24 am

You totally ignore a huge point about QBs drafted in the first and the many, too many of those named really weren't worthy of first-round selections but were because the Sports Media, teams, and fans believe there must be QBs drafted in the first round simply because its the most important position. Hence the high failure rate, and why there are only 5 QBs in any given 10 years period who are truly worthy of being Top 5. The majority of QBs are vastly over-drafted, and the proof is in their play in the NFL. Most are average and a couple is slightly above, but most never perform to the first-round draft expected. A few may achieve more if lucky to be on a quality team, but their true level is revealed when that one-time season never comes close to being again.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 13, 2022 at 10:12 am

That's your opinion.

The opinion of the professionals who make their living at this carries more weight with me than yours.

Are QBs overdrafted? That would actually be an interesting discussion. On the one hand, you don't win without competent quarterbacking. On the other hand, there were good players available at other positions when Paxton Lynch and Brady Quinn were drafted. I can agree that quarterbacks are frequently overdrafted, but it's not because of the fans or the Sports Media. It's because people who make their living at this, and who get fired when they're wrong, think they need a QB .

IMO, I think that the environment you create for your QB is probably more important than where he was selected in the draft, even though the vast majority of starting QBs in this league are first round picks. If Aaron Rodgers had been drafted by the Bears, or Cleveland, I kind of wonder if he'd have had a HOF career. Likewise, if Stafford had been drafted by an organization that knows what it's doing, he might have had a much better career. And that's why I think Love has a better than average chance.

Statistically, it's about 20%. But if you've been drafted by a good team that knows what they're doing, it's higher than that. Aaron Rodgers, Jason Campbell, Teddy Bridgewater, Joe Flacco, Lamar Alexander, Ken Paxton, Jordan Love. Those are the QBs drafted in the bottom half of the round 2005-2020. About half of them have had pretty good careers, so in the absence of better evidence, I'd say that Love has about a 50% chance of being a good QB, maybe more.

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 13, 2022 at 11:21 am

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 13, 2022 at 05:53 pm

I know you mean Lamar Jackson but who the hell is Ken Paxton?

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 13, 2022 at 06:55 pm

The attorney general of Texas who is under multiple criminal investigations.

https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/criminal-case-against-texas-attorn...

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 14, 2022 at 03:34 am

No wonder these bottom of the 1st round guys are busting out, teams are drafting old Republican guys to play QB!

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13TimeChamps's picture

July 13, 2022 at 07:10 pm

Lamar Alexander is the recently retired Senator from Tennessee.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 14, 2022 at 01:23 am

Paxton Lynch

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

July 13, 2022 at 03:28 am

If AR plays poorly in the playoffs, yes, it is plausible that he might retire. I just want to note that whether AR plays in 2023 is entirely up to him as the team cannot cut him. They could trade him.

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Nate-1980's picture

July 13, 2022 at 05:42 am

LH where’s the evidence love can take us to a super bowl, dude hasn’t even won a game yet???????????

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Leatherhead's picture

July 13, 2022 at 08:04 am

Where is the evidence he cannot? Quite a few guys with his background have.

CAN means can, not will.

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TXCHEESE's picture

July 12, 2022 at 01:56 pm

The Browns have Brissett and Dobbs, and both are more or as proven as Love, and they can probably get Garapalo for the same price. What would they do, when Watson is back on the active next year. This makes no sense. In addition, GB needs to keep Love until they find out what Rodgers is going to do after this season.

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stockholder's picture

July 12, 2022 at 02:20 pm

There is No show down coming. Love isn't going to bring anything back in a trade. Just last week the Rumor talk was Seatle. You don't get something for Nothing! Wake up! Love will be gone by 2024. If not waived for cap relief.- (Think $$$ not value.)

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HarryHodag's picture

July 13, 2022 at 08:06 am

Nope, he won't be. He'll be in Green Bay. Not unless the Packers can find a Hall of Famer off the waiver wire.

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DragonSilk's picture

July 12, 2022 at 03:54 pm

When Gute made the investment 2 years ago he obviously felt the upside was huge. Trading him now would be foolish. If he doesn't show significant improvement this preseason then maybe start shopping him around. Problem with that is you won't get much, but you won't get much trading him now either. The dice have been thrown there's no pulling them back now.

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DragonSilk's picture

July 12, 2022 at 03:54 pm

When Gute made the investment 2 years ago he obviously felt the upside was huge. Trading him now would be foolish. If he doesn't show significant improvement this preseason then maybe start shopping him around. Problem with that is you won't get much, but you won't get much trading him now either. The dice have been thrown there's no pulling them back now.

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EricinGB's picture

July 12, 2022 at 04:00 pm

At this point in time, the opportunity cost or downside to keeping Love is losing what the Packers could get in trade, (maybe a 3rd round pick?) is not very much. While the probability might be be lower, the potential upside to keeping Love is much higher...Drafting Love is like buying a new car...it's value rapidly depreciates the first few years...but by the end of the third year, it's probably worth more keeping rather than selling. Would rather see where we are with Love by the end of this season rather than trading.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

July 12, 2022 at 05:07 pm

You lost me in the very 1st sentence. Sigh.

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Pantz_Burp's picture

July 12, 2022 at 06:09 pm

After reading this article, I sounded a bit like Vince:..."what the hell is going on out there!?!!"

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Oppy's picture

July 12, 2022 at 06:26 pm

"Maybe what Love showed in Kansas City on Nov. 7 last year is how he will handle pressure. He didn’t recognize the pocket melting around him and he began to panic."

It's almost like you didn't actually watch the game.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

July 12, 2022 at 10:54 pm

"....pocket melting around him....." Excuse me Cory, what pocket? Lucas Patrick and Royce Newman had one of the worst games from offensive linemen that I have ever seen in my life and thats not an exaggeration. Rodgers wouldve held a press conference to scold them publicly if they ever played that bad with him under center.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 12, 2022 at 08:13 pm

Not really. For one no DC in his right mind would blitz Rodgers as much as the Chiefs blitzed Love. He showed he couldn't handle it so they kept it up.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

July 12, 2022 at 10:53 pm

Watch the game again. Theres no protection call to mask interior linemen completely whiffing blocks on stunts repeatedly. They couldnt even double team properly as chris jones manhandled both of them multiple times. They both got overwhelmed as much or more than Love did that game. Yeah Love has work to do, but the oline did him absolutely no favors either. Newman and Patrick were lucky there was so many injuries at the time cuz they both shouldve been benched that game. As for Rodgers' prowess against the blitz, the 49ers absolutely owned him on the blitz in the playoffs. Hes not infallible against the blitz. Love didnt even have the worst game of the season for a Packers qb. He didnt even have the 2nd worst.

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LLCHESTY's picture

July 14, 2022 at 03:42 am

If that was true why did the Chiefs blitz so much if they didn't have to? I think it was the 2nd or 3rd highest blitz rate in a game last year.

Patrick only gave up 3 sacks on the year BTW.

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Leatherhead's picture

July 13, 2022 at 08:25 am

Is that what LaFleur was talking about when he said he wanted to see what Love does when things go wrong?

LaFleur could have come out and tailored a game plan for Love. He didn’t. He was evaluating his QB. And astonishingly, a QB in his first real action had trouble with the blitz. Who could have possibly imagined?

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

July 13, 2022 at 04:35 pm

Thats entirely possible. However, after the game he publicly said he didnt do enough to help Love. I think the more likely scenario was that he had already developed his gameplan before he knew Rodgers would be out and decided not to alter it too much.

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marpag1's picture

July 13, 2022 at 02:38 am

"It's almost like you didn't actually watch the game."

So true, assuming that when you say "the game" you mean "the sport of NFL football."

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Bear's picture

July 12, 2022 at 09:07 pm

Cory, you’re out in left field.

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Johnblood27's picture

July 13, 2022 at 07:57 am

Yo Bear, that's the position Corey plays at CHTV.

Get a program, all the players numbers and positions are listed... unless someone who is never right publishes it...

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HarryHodag's picture

July 13, 2022 at 08:07 am

It's the time of the year. If you check all the pro football outlets they're scraping to find anything to jabber about.

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Pantz_Burp's picture

July 14, 2022 at 08:11 pm

Lets share our favorite chili recipes...that will pass some time (and other things)

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