Maybe now. But not when both were wearing the Green and Gold. Read Andrew Brandt's article at SI.com. He was a VP for the Packers during the Favre Rodgers era and he says they did not get along....very cold relationship.

He says even back then Rodgers was complaining why he wasn't starting. His agent back then was asking the front office "if you aren't going to play him, trade him!"

Then Favre would complain "how would you like to come to work every day with your replacement looking at you?"

Favre even replied to a reporter who asked him how he was working with Rodgers and he retorted "its not my job to coach him!"

If the cost of retaining Rodgers is a longer term financial commitment to him where the Packers are assuming all the risk, it's too high.

For all of his talk about how he felt he was treated poorly as a rookie coming to Green Bay with a future 1st ballot HOF QB as the incumbent, he sure has behaved differently when the roles have been reversed.

I really want Rodgers back behind center this season, but at what cost? If he wants more money and guarantees that put the Packers in extended cap hades through 2023 who will he play with...rookies and cheap FAs?

I am losing a lot of respect for Rodgers. He has been named the starter for 2021 for crying out loud. And if he plays well, he will be starting in 2022 as well.

The contract extension deal HE SIGNED in 2018 after his 6-9-1 season did have an out for the Packers in 2022. The Packers made Rodgers the highest paid NFL player in history at the time, after his 6-9-1 season! I would want an out too. There was no guarantee he thrive under Coach Matt's system. He did. So keep thriving and you will keep starting!

If not, the Pack can send you packing after this season and you can hand pick where you play next.

Also, Favre wasn't released. He was traded to the Jets.

Does it matter if your leader doesn’t show up? Yes.

That's where I'm at as well. Apparently there are reports that he has demanded a trade, but it feels really weird to me that Schefter would leave that fact out of his bombshell report on draft day if it were true. It seems to me like this is still a process, and he's currently unhappy. That's all. We have no idea how it's going to go. James Jones and John Kuhn saying they think it's fixable can not be ignored, neither can more grim reports of the situation. We simply don't know, and I frankly wouldn't be shocked at anything at this point.

Anyway there is a lot of options what are the reasons why Aaron Rodgers put the pressure on FO, but I, also, believe that his evaluation of Jordan Love is very favorable for young man, if not for this season, for the nearest future. That is why Aaron Rodgers started all those games: "I said I'll never play for Packers again! - I'm very upset that the news came out (sic! - that means the news are/were correct?) - I want Brian Gutekunst to be fired - I contacted some of my teammates asking them to join me - I'm very unhappy with Packers offer" etc...

I believe Packers made their line for Aaron. If you were not accept the deal or announce that you'll be the part of Packers team till, lets say 15 days before training camp, we will trade you and wish you all the best.

This trade talks are strange. We all knows that some individuals grow older gradually, others suddenly. Yesterday they were top, next day they are depleted, some physically, other mentally, some both at the same time. First to go is field of view, what makes QB progression to lasts longer, than reflexes (make your reaction for very short moments slower than you used to react), than strength, either in execution or in the resistance to the injuries. And so on... So, if you are expecting that you'll play in mid 40 that good as during 30 it is risky to believe in it. We might see Aaron Rodgers play for 5, 6, 7 years on high level (not highest), but we can also witness fall of the cliff already in this season. And than what?

We, Packers fans, believe we can get 3 or 4 first rounder for Aaron and some good to excellent young players, but I believe that we can be happy with one 1st rounder, few 2nd rounders and one or two good young players, not excellent ones, not first rounders.

Now, will we prepare to risk fall of the cliff and keep Aaron Rodgers, under his terms, or we prepare to risk he joins another franchise and there play another 5 to 7 season on high level.

What I truly believe that Aaron have 1 to 2 high level season and than cliff will come. There are some signs he is not as sharp as he was during his earlier carrier as starting QB.

Also, I believe that somehow Aaron feels the same and that is why he tries to secure for himself as much money as he can if the cliff will come after 1st or 2nd season.

For me this is selfish behavior, but, after reading many, many comments here, I understood majority believes that this behavior is OK. This is not I am judging you at all.
I understand we does not share completely same views and, honestly, we can discuss it forever who is more or less right about the opinions. I respect all of you, but I will stay with my opinion on this matter, however.

Thank you!

At the cost of hurting his Packers legacy, which certainly happened to Favre.

That's a great thought. It's worth noting that Rodgers has seen Jordan Love in practice where many of us have not. He could see something in him that's forcing his own hand so to speak.

The Packers seem unwilling to give Rodgers the longer-term comittment he wants, and given his age I can understand that.

Most players don't get to choose their fates at the end, even Joe Montana had to cope with Steve Young on the same team (49ers) for several years, and he played out his last two years with the Chiefs.

Making him the highest paid player in NFL history in 2018 after a 6-9-1 season was a rather generous commitment in my book.

Paying him almost a $ quarter BILLION since his rookie year seems to be a decent commitment too.

How about honoring a commitment he made and signed?

If a trade happens, I would hope it would be mostly all draft picks. 3 first rounders and 2 seconds and a 3rd for next 3 drafts...and the best DL player on the trade partner's roster.

Out of cap hades and top picks on rookie contracts to boot. Our future would be so bright, we would have to wear a welders shield.

A cookie for the John Oliver reference! Thanks, Since '61

Bet- If #4 came back. He could out play Love.

I think it’s optimistic to think this will resolve fast after June 1. I don’t think the chances are great that a trade will happen. Maybe 30 percent. If not, this can run and run unless Rodgers backs down or the team caves, which it shouldn’t. This is a needless drama created by Rodgers for Rodgers benefit alone.

I suppose a deal in principle could be reached and leaked prior to June. Denver's OTAs start May 24-27; AR could attend if not participate. Minicamp isn't until June 15th, so not the biggest rush.

This is 100% my concern, TS wrote a great piece on MLF's conundrum. What offense does he install??

We can't pretend the one for Love will be the same as the one for Rodgers.

Even with last year's lack of on-field work, the foundation for the concepts for the season is set in the off season installs particularly for the rookies.

AR is very much screwing up the foundation GBP would need to succeed this year (Even if he returns), particularly with the need for early success based on our schedule.

If he glares even once at amari or Myers for a mistake, I hope they all turn to point out he wasn't here putting in the work.

“ [maybe this is what he wants to spend more time with his new chickee] “. “chickee”, really? Okay Dick-ee!

Brett Favre is my all time favorite QB!

Over Bart Starr?

I would have to give the nod to Bart who was a super player and a super person. There aren't many Hall of Fame quarterbacks who had just won a world championship and yet took the time to talk to a snotty nosed kid like me and yet he did it.

Make it happen!

Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

SHE still in the red...

Stockholder - it's all about regime change. The new regime wants their guy or at least Gutekunst does. When they drafted Love I posted that as soon as the Packers can find an excuse they will move on Rodgers because new regimes want their guys. It no longer matters how well you do your job or have done your job in the past. It only matters that you are one of the new regime's guys. I saw this for years in Corporate America and we've seen this before in Green Bay. Wolf/Holmgren with Favre, TT and MM with Rodgers. Now Gute with Love.

Remember the stadium is sold out even if the Packers go 0-17 with Love for the next 3 seasons. Money first, that takes care of Murphy. Cleaning up the salary cap mess that Gute/Ball created is second. They gave Rodgers his contract, they signed the Smiths, Amos and resigned Bak, A. Jones and others. Third is MLF, he will take the hit if Love busts. Fourth are the players. They take the physical risks if the team wins or loses. Last and always least are the fans. We are not even part of the equation at any level.

The Packers are not even considering their own HCs input in this matter. MLF has been clear about wanting Rodgers back as the Packers QB. But the beat goes on.

We'll find out in June if even MLF's input matters to Gute. But it's all good because as Murphy proclaimed "We're not idiots." Thanks, Since '61

After weeks of reading your posts, I started to suspect are you at all Packers fan or you just try to troll us all. You do not care what will happen with franchise, you just trying to add salt on the wound.

Pretty pitty!

"He wants to win. Gute and Murphy don't."

If I hear the "Gute doesn't want to win" garbage one more time, I swear my head will explode. What happens to GMs of teams that don't win? They get fired. So you're suggesting that Gute is hoping to get fired? That makes about as much sense as the rest of your confusing, rambling posts that nobody seems to understand besides you.

Could you change your screen name to "badopinionholder"? Just to serve as a warning to anyone who might actually consider reading your "Regurgitation of Baseless Spittle"?

If you cannot find a place to assign at least some blame on Rodgers for this mess your perspective is irretrievably broken.

I would hope I would look at it with perspective. Perspective that this is a replacement league, a young mans game. Rodgers was once drafted to replace an all-time great. The Packers also drafted many other quarterbacks during Favre's tenure including Mark Brunell and Matt Hasselbeck who became pro-bowlers and even went to a Super Bowl. If Favre hadn't retired Rodgers may have sat on the bench for another season.

Rodgers has three years left on a contract he was more than happy to sign. He also knew that at a certain point this contract would make it easier for the Packers to move on. If you are on a job where you sign a contract like this you shouldn't be complaining when all the guaranteed money has been paid to you and you are now more vulnerable to be replaced. Suck it up and honor your contract. Force the Packers to keep Love on the bench until your contract is up.

And besides, the Packers need Rodgers this year more than he needs the Packers. Anyway, if I was in this position I might think this is a good time to move on. The Packers organization disregarded his feelings when they took the Love pick. I’d feel the same way because it looks like the Packers have moved on from Rodgers but want to hold on to him for 1 more season, maybe two/three more seasons. I would sit on this for awhile and let the company men at Lambeau figure out something creative, but that won’t happen.

Taryn,

Interesting post.

However, if this happened in Corporate America, most would NOT WAIT ONE FULL YEAR later to respond.

He/she might have the discussion immediately and/or look for work elsewhere, then resign.

This is a great take. 100%.

Contracts in the NFL have ALWAYS had the wink-wink "Not For Long" thing attached to them. No doubt. That is not just a Packers problem, but an NFL problem.

Cap restrictions force teams into these predicaments. Here we are, looking to finish off a 3 year set of legitimate runs at the Super Bowl, and we lose our reigning MVP QB before we can get the 3rd attempt off the ground. Why?

I agree 100% Taryns. I add a little reflection ....
Gute wants to switch from AR, that's his right, I might disagree, but that's part of the game. Everyone says he did what TT did with Favre, but the reality is that TT chose the second Q up to that point (mostly a first choice perspective overall), while Gute chose the fourth Q (considered by all to a second round). The biggest problem though is that Gute had to expect this reaction from AR (I hope he knew the AR character). Instead he had absolutely not planned !!!
The worst thing is that all of this was already known in January. If he wanted to switch from AR he could have swapped it so he could probably get the best Draft picks (not like the ones we're going to have right now) to pick better players. This is a very negative management aspect that no one currently tends to emphasize

Are you confusing Rodgers with Favre? Maybe Montana with a younger Young looking over his shoulder?

If Rodgers actually knows how far away Love is from being ready to start, he has nothing to worry about, does he?

So his hold out is all about saving the franchise from themselves? He, Is. Already. Named. The. 2021. Starter.

Ron Wolf: "You are a member of the Green Bay Packers until I find somebody better."

I worked in the corporate world for many years. We were always looking for new talent for bus. Then the objective is to get them in the right seats. If you are not looking to get better with new talent...you are entering the world of hubris. Hubris often precedes the fall.

Taryn this is a good post. I'm thinking that this situation has been looked at incorrectly. We know that Rodgers has said on a few occasions that he wants to finish his career with the Packers. He also commented off camera to Tirico at the Kentucky Derby that he loves Green Bay and Packer fans.

It could be that Rodgers wants guarantees because he sees it coming together in Green Bay. He sees that this team is close and that the Packers can make it to the SB either 2021 or 2022 or 2023. Maybe he wants to remain with the Packers to be part of it. We don't know what he is negotiating for. We've heard that he has been offered to become the highest paid QB and turned it down. So it's not just money. The gap between the 2 parties must be over guarantee to remain in Green Bay. I would give him 3 years but with an opt out for either party in year 3.

I believe that Rodgers would trade money for a guarantee to remain with the Packers. Now if he wants more than 3 years that is a different story. If he wants more than that then I would tell him that we go one year at a time after the next 2 seasons. That's the most I would do.

All of this may be irrelevant if a trade is already done but whatever happens it needs to get done in June before we get to TC. But I still believe that Rodgers would prefer to stay with the Packers rather than go. Thanks, Since '61

Kind of happened to me - CEO was sold a pack of lies by someone who was in danger of losing his job and wanted me replaced by the liar. My own CIass A exec boss didn't want me gone at all, but found a way to keep me until AFTER the calendar year was over (I was then eligible for a 30% bonus). I was was laid off three weeks into the new year, with a severance package.

As in most/every corporation, I had NO SAY in my fate - it turned out relatively well for me only because my performance merited loyalty from my boss to me, and he protected me for the three months needed for me to get a large extra bonus on top of my severance.

Unlike us common folks, Rodgers is under a well-compensated contract. He needs to:
1. Deny all reports that say he wants to leave/fire Gute/get unspecified guarantees.
2. Say that he's a Packer for life or until his contract runs out.
3. Say he's more than happy with his contract.
4. Show up for all OTAs
5. Speak well of the team, its FO, the fans, and Love.

Can you imagine the CFO of Coca-Cola saying their contract sucks and that they want "guarantees" that they'll be with the corp for the rest of their career? That person would be fired immediately.

Don't Laugh. Dallas had a great draft.. Rodgers and MM just might be all in on that. I predict the cowboys will make the playoffs. Two of the best ILBs in the draft. @2 CBs. And I'll bet Joseph makes the All Rookie team. @ 2 DTs.

Well said

Yeah, thats really a good post.....you nailed it.

SZACTLY, SZOTMAN! RUN TO DAYLIGHT.

Funny you mention that, baldski, because Davante Adams mentioned the same thing, only now about how Jordan Love was a really hard worker and “a sponge,” out there, watching everything Aaron was doing.

Pretty damn cool.