Confessions of a Polluted Mindset - Mashing Minnesota

The Weekly Packers Brain Drain from Jersey Al.

 

Dillon the Destroyer - Talk about a guy who can rip out a defense's soul. On that one touchdown, he carried half the Vikings' team on his back and was able to support that weight with one hand on the ground while he found the goal line with the football extending his other arm. He's be quite a hit at your Festivus celebration.

Close to the Vest - How about LaFleur sporting a vest and not a parka in that weather? Not so close to the vest was the play calling. I feel like we're seeing some more creative play designs with detailed misdirection tactics than we were earlier in the season, and I like it. 

Shotgun short yardage - To quote Aaron Nagler, " I will forever hate running the ball out of shotgun on short yardage." I get that Rodgers likely has a run/pass option in those cases, but when they do run it, the target hole is extremely predictable (always to the side of the line opposite where the running back is), and the RB doesn't seem to get a proper head of steam going. That's especially true for Dillon. Line him up 6-7 yards back and hand him the ball at full speed and let's see who's stopping him from getting those 2 yards.

Tackling is back - After what Lafleur called it the worst tackling performance of the year against Cleveland, they turned things around big time.  They swarmed to the ball, arrived with vigor and hit their targets with force - a 180 degree turnaround.

Red-faced - Tom Coughlin has nothing on Mike Zimmer. Zimmer-face was a thing as early as the first quarter,

Swervin' Moore - Remember Tyler Ervin's first game returning kicks and how ecstatic we were about having someone that seemed to know what they were doing back there? I got the same vibes watching David Moore's Packers debut. 

Stokes - Spofford put together some clips of Stokes in coverage, mostly vs. Jefferson. Check it out. Oh, and where's ImaAPayne who came into this comment section to tell us how bad Stokes was.

How about dem 'boys - I don't know about you, but I've been having some fun with my Cowboys fan friends this week. They were on top of the world last week and just like that - poof! 

Same old, same old - Speaking of the Cowboys, I see McCarthy is up to his old tricks in Dallas. 12 run attempts total for Elliot and Pollard. 

No mo' toe - It appears to me that Rodgers' toe was not bothering him at all and he got through the game with it feeling good. The tell tale sign for me was video of him running through the tunnel after the game, He would have been walking if it was bothering him in any way.

Very Special - TE Tyler Davis was on the field for 24 special teams snaps on Sunday Night. You have to think that means he was in on EVERY special teams play. That's highly unusual.

I'll just leave this here...

 

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"Jersey Al" Bracco is the Editor-In-Chief, part owner and wearer of many hats for CheeseheadTV.com and PackersTalk.com. He is also a recovering Mason Crosby truther.  Follow Al on twitter at @JerseyalGBP

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porupack's picture

January 05, 2022 at 06:11 am

Good set of 'fessions. My 'fession is that the team that has highest vaccination rate, and/or contains the team's exposure or just gets very, very lucky in keeping players off the COVID list has the best chance to win throughout the post-season. Minnepo was down too many defensive players and without Cousins, their hope of winning went after the first punt. Packers can stay favorites, but that all changes if any key players are not available. Just have to remember the difference in perhaps a couple of plays against the Bucs with Bahk not available (due to injury). Injuries aren't that avoidable, but a vaccine is pretty easy remedy to effecting the availability and is better than any insurance policy. Players better decide how much they want to win, and rally the team to make that little investment and go get a title.

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dobber's picture

January 05, 2022 at 09:07 am

Even with those defensive players, the Vikings have hemorrhaged yards and big plays all year. They're not the same team they were a couple years ago.

Even with Cousins--who has quietly had a pretty good year--this is a team that can't afford to 3-and-out because they know they're going to give up drives and points on the other side of the ball.

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PeteK's picture

January 05, 2022 at 09:09 am

Better bring the players back from their week off a bit early to get them tested, and if positive have enough time to be reinstated.

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davekenya's picture

January 05, 2022 at 11:00 pm

Looking closely at this post, I can really only see that the negative votes - which typically means disagreement with the author - is due to not agreeing with the scientific fact that vaccination = less transmission of the virus which harms/kills people.

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porupack's picture

January 06, 2022 at 07:05 am

Yeah, I didn't even go into the politicization of the vaccine issue, just a pragmatic decision for players and the team....a vaccine can determine how available one can be if they get exposed. Just pragmatics when thousands of dollars of salary are at stake in post season play, plus pragmatics of individual vs team goals of winning after all the investments made in this supposedly last dance.

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porupack's picture

January 06, 2022 at 07:07 am

implying from your moniker, you're well ahead by 8 time zones: Nairobi?

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Johnblood27's picture

January 05, 2022 at 09:42 am

No doubt, AJ Dillon ROCKS! I love the power game and I love that Dillon is getting the opportunities to show his stuff. Finally MLF is going to more sets with both Jones and Dillon on the field and not necessarily in the backfield - Jones motioning out - more of this please!

My observations:

way too much empty looks early in this game. empty has its place, as a regular look as you seek to establish offensive rhythm does not seem to be the best use. I would be more in agreement if the early empty looks were coupled with an up-tempo approach, but the huddle up then run the clock down to 1 second with an empty backfield just does not thrill me.

I would like to see Dillon get some more outside zone runs. He has the feet and speed to make those plays work. changing up some tendencies would be a good thing.

The defense looked more like the mid-season defense in this game, I certainly hope it was their scheme-effort and not the barneys lack of enthusiasm that explains the improvement...

I love that their center had the longest completion in the game for them.

EQS really needs some sort of light to come on... his missed block on Adams short reception was clearly a lack of effort. I would rather see Winfree or Taylor getting his snaps on offense as well as ST.

Crosbys kickoffs in the cold were a revelation. i didn't think he had it in him. Congrats to him, my confidence level just went up for our KO coverage team.

I hope that all of the WR screen plays that MLF has called this regular season have been a smoke screen and that those plays will NOT be called in the playoffs!

Savage has clearly regressed this year. I hope that someone (Amos?) takes him aside and gets in his ear about turning it up in the playoffs.

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dobber's picture

January 05, 2022 at 09:09 am

"I would like to see Dillon get some more outside zone runs."

We differ here, because I always cringe when I see big backs running laterally.

"I hope that all of the WR screen plays that MLF has called this regular season have been a smoke screen and that those plays will NOT be called in the playoffs!"

...or start to be used as a decoy to open up the seam or the opposite route.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 05, 2022 at 12:22 pm

Pro sets work best. A two-way go for wagon routes or Dillon stays in pass pro given our TE depth. Win-win situation for all the gray hairs pining for Taylor and Hornung.

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Johnblood27's picture

January 06, 2022 at 08:46 am

Taylor and Hornung?

I was thinking Brockington and Lane...

...but it seems we have achieved Ivery and Ellis...

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Ya_tittle's picture

January 05, 2022 at 11:05 am

I believe Savage has not been the same since he was obliterated on that onside kick.

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Minniman's picture

January 05, 2022 at 01:27 pm

Great point and one that has merit - he may be holding some residual injury.

Psychologically he has to get back onto the proverbial horse though.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 05, 2022 at 06:31 pm

If he's a safety he has to bring it or get out of the Game.

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Grandfathered's picture

January 05, 2022 at 05:20 pm

Those wide receiver quick out/screens seem to pick up yardage on early downs. This year I would estimate that those plays successfully pick up 5 yards or more about 75% of the time. Sometime a defender makes the play but usually the receiver gets positive yards. I don't know why the Pack would stop running them.

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NickPerry's picture

January 05, 2022 at 07:01 am

I really like the wayMLF used Jones and Dillon this past weekend. The O-Line did an excellent job blocking on both inside and outside running plays, and Jones definitely seems to be 100% healthy, just in time for the playoffs. I have a strong feeling both Dillon and Jones will be a HUGE part of getting the Packers to the SB, but it's Aaron Jones who I think is really going to show up. I'll never forget how sad, how miserable, Jones looked while sitting on the sidelines after getting hurt in last years NFCCG. Aaron Jones is such a class act and great teammate. I think he'll feel he needs to make up for his NFCCG performance last season, AND I think he will and then some.

In Al's "Three Plays That Make You Go Hmmm" yesterday he showed one where Dillon ran up Jon Runyan's back and carried a few defenders with him for a 1st down. His 7 yard TD run was another example of just how strong this kid is. I never hated the Dillon pick in the first place, and those crickets who were chirping earlier have been pretty quiet. Good play usually does that, and Dillon has been MORE than good this year.

I've read several posts from my friend here regarding MLF's cheerleading on the sideline when the Packers are on Defense. For the life of me I can't understand WHY this is so upsetting to some here at CHTV. The man is 39-9 in the regular season. He bested George Seifert who BTW inherited a SB team built by Bill Walsh. MLF inhearted a team that finished below 500 two years in a row. If that man wants to lead a cheer while on the sidelines WHO CARES!

BTW... LaFleur, nice job with the vest. Zimmer looked like Rudolph and miserable, you looked like a HC on the brink of winning it all. Now go do it!

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egbertsouse's picture

January 05, 2022 at 07:31 am

He really needs a vest with spangles and go-go boots. And he should throw down some rocking’ dance moves. Then, he could really do some cheerleading.

Coaches coach. Cheerleaders, cheerlead. Do your job, dude.

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PeteK's picture

January 05, 2022 at 09:21 am

Not that there's anything wrong with spangles and go go boots. You forgot the leotards. Come on everybody the Packers are in the playoffs, Shake shake shake, shake your booty it's your duty!!

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NickPerry's picture

January 05, 2022 at 04:57 pm

"Do your job, dude."

Ummm.... I'm pretty sure that's EXACTLY what he's been doing. I mean no offense, but 39-9 in his first 3 years, something BTW NO ONE has EVER accomplished in NFL History isn't doing your job, I don't know what it is.

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scullyitsme's picture

January 05, 2022 at 10:11 am

Don’t think many “hated” the Dillion pick. I didn’t. Unlike most I wasn’t a big fan of “ 3 yards and a cloud of dust Jamal Williams”. Great dancer, average running back. Dillion was an upgrade. The same can’t be said about a 1st and 4Th for love and a 3rd for deguara.

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dobber's picture

January 05, 2022 at 11:16 am

"Don’t think many “hated” the Dillion pick."

I think the Dillon pick made sense in that he was in the mold of a Derrick Henry (not the same back, yet, of course) and LaF rode him for a year in TN and Jones' rookie deal was about to run out...but there was more than a little head scratching going on when they drafted him high then gave AJones a hefty contract.

"Unlike most I wasn’t a big fan of “ 3 yards and a cloud of dust Jamal Williams”."

...wait for it...

"Dillion was an upgrade"

...wait for it...

"The same can’t be said about a 1st and 4Th for love and a 3rd for deguara."

THERE it is.... ;)

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scullyitsme's picture

January 05, 2022 at 12:07 pm

Sorry to bore you with facts and make you reply. By all means next time feel free to carry on without responding. Thanks, the management.

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dobber's picture

January 05, 2022 at 12:50 pm

That was intended to be a good-natured poke...the kind of softball you toss at a friend when you're sitting at the bar.

I apologize if it hit too close to something somewhere.

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jurp's picture

January 05, 2022 at 01:23 pm

Technically we only gave up a fourth for Love because we swapped firsts. To be 100% accurate, you should've said "swapped firsts and a 4th for Love".

But then, accuracy has never been your strong suit.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 06, 2022 at 06:14 am

IDK: I don't find a first and a fourth for Love to be ambiguous. It is shorthand and assumes the reader has some knowledge as to how the draft works, I suppose, but it only has one meaning under those circumstances.

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stockholder's picture

January 05, 2022 at 07:59 am

Shotgun short yardage- Just more mis-direction. The Draw, shuttle pass, even a screen pass, can destroy a defense Line. Student body left or right, only works for so long. Tackling is back. - I’m a big Campbell fan. But Clark is AWESOME! Moore’s debut- It’s been so long. I’m in shock. Gutey just shut a lot of pie holes. MM and them cowboys - Hello- He’s winning. How else can you describe Trick and Treat. A MVP voter blasts Rodgers; and the only thing we talk about is his Toe? Popularity should have nothing to do with that MVP award. This OL has Over -achieved. Who predicted a Patrick cut? Not me. These guys filled in exceptionally.

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PeteK's picture

January 05, 2022 at 09:34 am

Your stock just went through the roof of SoFi stadium! LOL Madden would have loved our O line.

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Starrbrite's picture

January 05, 2022 at 05:00 pm

Always like what you have to say Stockholder.

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Coldworld's picture

January 05, 2022 at 08:06 am

Not much to be polluted about facing a Vikings team with a career back up coming off no practice. The things I take from that game are the lack of injuries, that we can stop the run, if we focus on it at least, that we should acknowledge a return to serious tackling and we finally seemed to get the usage of Jones and Dillon looking like I think we all anticipated coming into the season.

It is so satisfying to see a Packers team that is physical on both sides of the ball. Finesse is pretty, but physicality is often what matters when everything is on the line. I also think a blend is also much more enjoyable to watch.

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dobber's picture

January 05, 2022 at 09:12 am

"Not much to be polluted about facing a Vikings team with a career back up coming off no practice."

When it was 6-0 in the middle of the second quarter, I'll admit that I was afraid that a miscue on ST or a fumble was going to turn this game into a thriller.

In the end, the Packers did to the Vikings what they should have done...as you said, nothing polluted about that.

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PeteK's picture

January 05, 2022 at 09:46 am

Did you say BLEND? C'mon C'mon c'mon baby , Come on and work it on out, well shake it up baby twist and shout!!

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Guam's picture

January 05, 2022 at 08:07 am

"Tackling is back". When the Packer defense was at its best this season (around mid-season), they swarmed the ball carrier and tackled with authority. That energy returned against Minnesota and it looked great. If they play that kind of defense during the playoffs, this is a Super Bowl team. If they revert to the lackadaisical "Cleveland" defense, this could be another short post-season. Let's hope Barry and Company can remember where the switch is.

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flackcatcher's picture

January 05, 2022 at 02:46 pm

Both the Browns and Ravens spread their formations out to create natural gaps and high angles in the run game. It worked because both team's QB (backup or injured) could threaten use of the vertical game. Vikings had no such threat. So the Packers could play man up and crowd the LOS and cut down the angles with both OLB and Barnes/Amos. They left Campbell to play man of whoever was coming on a delayed route. If Cousins were active, you know they would have played 7-10 yards off and more gap protection than attacking with Clarke at the outset. It all depends on personnel here. Context is important.

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Guam's picture

January 05, 2022 at 03:02 pm

I believe the Rams tried to do the same with Stafford at QB and much better WRs than either the Browns or Ravens had plus a pretty good rushing attack, yet the Packer defense stuffed the Rams. Yes, the scheme the Vikings were forced to run was part of the Packer's success, but I don't think it was all of it. There was a different energy level against the Rams (and a few other mid-season opponents) and the Vikings than there was against the Browns or Ravens. I want to see that same energy level during the playoffs.

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Spock's picture

January 05, 2022 at 08:09 am

Al, I always enjoy this particular column and this week every point is particularly relevant. The tackling was noticeably good (even to me, lol) and I want Moore, not less, on special teams! Great win against an inferior opponent, but that is what good teams do. I like that MLF is going back to more "illusion of complexity" play calling heading towards the playoffs.

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 05, 2022 at 08:32 am

Dillon the Destroyer -
When I think of the name "Dillon the Destroyer" I think of Conan the Destroyer which was my favorite Conan movie. Dillon is definitely a beast. Both of his TD runs showed that.

Close to the Vest -
I have seen more talk about LaFleur's cloths then any previous coach in GB's history. Its crazy. As for vests, I do like them. Keeps your arms free, makes it easier to do things.
I do like what they are doing around the redzone. They should have had a TD with the throw to Deguara. He was open and simply dropped it. But the way they are calling plays down there, they really seem to have put an emphasis on that area of the field lately.

Shotgun short yardage -
What I would like to see is go into the Pistol for those situations. Its a combo of the 2 but it does make running the ball more effectively especially with a guy like Dillon. I think the shotgun runs with Jones maybe a little more effective because he has the ability to bounce it easier. He is just a quicker RB.

Tackling is back -
We will have to see what the tackling looks like when they have to defend a passing game also. But the actual tackling was much better.

Red-faced -
I talked to my mom when the game started and that was her first comment on the game. How red his face was.

Swervin' Moore -
I got a similar vibe. That being said, I felt that Rodgers was getting it the last few games. That being said, I don't know how they don't go with Moore in the playoffs. They need a guy with experience back there for the playoffs.

How about dem 'boys -
To add more loss to their loss they lost one of their best WR's. That will definitely hurt them in the playoffs.

Same old, same old -
Can take the play calling out of the coach, but can't the coach out of the play calling.

No mo' toe -
Getting a week off should really help it out. But even if it doesn't help that much Rodgers is able to move around well enough.

Very Special -
While Davis maybe on every special teams play, I think he needs to get more involved in the offense as well. He quitely has played well on offense. I don't think he has dropped a pass yet. A couple of games ago he had that great deep play down the middle.

I'll just leave this here...
Anyone that wants to say LaFleur doesn't deserve Coach of the year because he has Rodgers. This stat shows exactly why he deserves to be coach of the year.

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dobber's picture

January 05, 2022 at 09:20 am

"We will have to see what the tackling looks like when they have to defend a passing game also. "

It was good against AZ and even KC earlier in the year. Those teams weren't playing great FB at the time, but it's there...

I find myself wondering if with Stokes and Douglas, they assign a role to Alexander akin to that of Jalen Ramsey in LA. Ramsey's a much bigger dude, though, which I think plays into that usage.

"To add more loss to their loss they lost one of their best WR's."

I wouldn't be surprised to see Dallas to fold in the WC round. They've struggled against decent teams this season, and they're likely to see AZ or the Rams right off the bat. If they don't force TOs, they don't fare well.

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Johnblood27's picture

January 05, 2022 at 09:48 am

Maybe MM reaches out to AB... just sayin'...

LOL!!!

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dobber's picture

January 05, 2022 at 12:51 pm

Please do!

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Johnblood27's picture

January 05, 2022 at 05:41 pm

how can i get downvoted for this^^^? Boyz just lost Gallup, its plausible and funny...

some people are just plain azzholes.

Get a sense of humor or please simply retire from the human race.

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PeteK's picture

January 05, 2022 at 10:11 am

Did you say SWERVIN? Hey wake up, you've been swerving from side to side, you're gonna make me spill my beer, if you don't learn how to steer.

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Johnblood27's picture

January 05, 2022 at 05:45 pm

Did somebody call for a steer?

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 05, 2022 at 10:18 am

"It was good against AZ and even KC earlier in the year. Those teams weren't playing great FB at the time, but it's there..."

It was. The defense was very good at tackling for a big portion of the year. For whatever reason the last 5ish games they hadn't done as well. This game was more like the first however many games where they were doing well. Hopefully this was the turn around game and they get back to where they were. But in the back of my mind I wonder if part of it was because they weren't going against a QB that scared them.

"I find myself wondering if with Stokes and Douglas, they assign a role to Alexander akin to that of Jalen Ramsey in LA. Ramsey's a much bigger dude, though, which I think plays into that usage."
Completely agree. I think that is the role that they will use Alexander in. Because Stokes has been outstanding on the outside in locking down his WR's and there is no way they can take Douglas off the field.

I also agree about Dallas.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 05, 2022 at 12:33 pm

Clark was ill, Keke out, Lancaster and Lowry nursing bruises, it will slow you down setting the D. They looked solid on Sunday.

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Bearmeat's picture

January 05, 2022 at 09:51 am

Great stuff, Al.

Part of that sack percentage is undoubtedly the MLF vs MM offense. The other part though? It's Rodgers not trying to play hero ball. Perhaps he felt he needed to do so in 2018 with a bad supporting cast, but I think at least half of that equation was 12 undermining the coach on purpose. Tyler Dunne's story back then was pretty damning.

Shotgun short yardage needs to be "shot" into the sun.

Hopefully we get some of the injured guys some snaps this week....

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 05, 2022 at 10:04 am

exactly.

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TheKanataThrilla's picture

January 05, 2022 at 01:20 pm

"Shotgun short yardage needs to be "shot" into the sun."

Few things irk me as much as this. When you have a battering ram RB, you give him a head of steam to run over the defenders. Having him run laterally 5 yards deep from the original LoS makes no sense and it is more a reflection of how good the RB is rather than the play call if it is successful.

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PackfanNY's picture

January 05, 2022 at 09:52 am

I have to give an apology to Jersey Al, Gute and Yosh Nijman. At the beginning of the season I was convinced that the Packers were holding on to Yosh and that he shouldn’t make the team. He got beat a few times in pre season and I was convinced that they were enamored with his size and potential rather than his actual production. Al was insistent that Yosh would not only make the team but was playing well in the preseason.

Man how wrong was I. Yosh has been invaluable to this team. Great job by Andy Stenavich piecing together a good line week after week without multiple players being down. Gute also deserves major credit for developing depth at this position including bringing in Dennis Kelly. Patience is a virtue. Clearly applies to team building.

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Grandfathered's picture

January 05, 2022 at 05:43 pm

The Pack did not expect to have to use Nijman at tackle this year, so it was OK if they were enamored with his size and potential - meaning It was OK to keep him on the roster. But on behalf of Yosh and Gute, I'll accept your apology! Al is from Jersey, and NY guys know how NJ guys are - he may want something more than just an apology!

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Since'61's picture

January 05, 2022 at 10:02 am

Al, great points as usual in your weekly polluted mindset. I realize that Dillon didn't have the most yardage but I think his performance against the Vikings was his best game since joining the Packers. The demonstration of his power and his ability to carry numerous tacklers with him was awesome and I loved watching it especially against the Vikings.

Tackling is back: I have posted for years that if the Packers defense could just improve their tackling they could become a solid defense.
The way they tackled against the Vikings they could be a top 5 defense if it continues. It is a must have for the playoffs.

Zimmer the red-faced loser. I'm not sure if it was the cold weather or embarrassment or both but it's Bye-bye until next season at least.

I posted during the game after his first 2 punt returns that Moore looked liked he knows what he's doing out there. He is the best punt returner we've seen this season for the Packers by far. If possible extend him now for the long term.

Stokes - him and a healthy Alexander are going to be the best CB tandem in the league.

'dem boys: good to see MM still prematurely abandons the run game. I wonder if the Dallas media throws him the same softballs during his pressers that he received from the GB media?

No mo toe: If Rodgers can play this well with an injured toe maybe he should keep it injured. He is in one of those streaks where he is just totally dominating the game.

Your last point from Tyler renter says it all.

Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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Starrbrite's picture

January 05, 2022 at 05:02 pm

Agree on Alexander and Stokes—right on.

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Since'61's picture

January 05, 2022 at 05:49 pm

Starrbrite - I’m excited to see Alexander and Stokes play CB as a tandem for the Packers. Stokes is no longer a rookie at this point and we know what a healthy Alexander can do.

I hope Alexander is ready to rejoin the Packers for the remainder of the season. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 05, 2022 at 10:09 am

Can we leave the McCarthy hatred, jeez. Aaron underminded him.

He won his division, he's hosting a home playoff game, he did it with a quarterback who can't carry Aaron's jock, and an owner who thinks he's the head coach. Also too, he beat Mike Zimmer with a quarterback who never started a game in his career. In Minneapolis.

Mike did great things in GB and he's a fine human. Give it a rest.

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JerseyAl's picture

January 05, 2022 at 10:41 am

hatred? Or just an honest evaluation that he lost his drive the last few years. The offensive scheme consisted of vertical routes and "just go get open" philosophy. The running game was 80% toss plays. I can't blame Rodgers for wanting him gone. I wanted him gone. It wasn't working anymore. He wasn't the same guy after the Seattle playoff debacle.

I also believe he's a fine human and a fine leader of men, a great organizational coach, etc. But what happens on the field is what matters most to me - and it stopped working. That's all.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 05, 2022 at 11:04 am

I think that when something like the Seattle Debacle happens, there really isn't any choice except to clean it out and start over. Like when the Oilers lost that huge lead at Buffalo in the playoffs, or when Atlanta folded in the second half of the Super Bowl, or some other calamity, the organization just doesn't bounce back from that .

You can struggle along for years trying to build around the "good" pieces, but IMO it's better to just flush the toilet and start over. I argued after that game that McCarthy and Rodgers had won their last Super Bowl together, and that we should clean it out and start over, but that's not what happened.

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Ya_tittle's picture

January 05, 2022 at 11:14 am

Was also, in my opinion, affected by the death of his brother.

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wildbill's picture

January 05, 2022 at 11:14 am

Excellent observation Al. I also wanted MM gone as he had gotten stale in his approach to the game. What saddens me is how some Packer fans have attacked him after he left. It ok to criticize but stooping to childish attacks on his weight seem to be below Packer fans, or so I would hope.
A Packer/ cowboy match in frigid weather would be great, especially if we win. Bring on IceBowl II!

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Turophile's picture

January 05, 2022 at 02:12 pm

I agree Al.
I'd also mention MM's tendency to pass too much and run too little (which is also raising its head in Dallas, recently).

When the defense knows where your team is going before the snap, your playbook needs refining, especially if you can use those tendencies to get the D doing the wrong things.

MM wasn't an awful coach by any means, he was incredibly loyal, but he lost momentum in the last few years and certainly needed a year off to think about things. He might also suffer next year if he loses his OC Kellen Moore to promotion, elsewhere.

One recent thing that gave me a negative feeling on MMs style with the Cowboys surfaced last week. Look at how many Cowboys players (and MM himself, though he referenced it obliquely) were publicly blaming the loss to the Cards on refereeing. I always want my team playing against a team with that mindset, instead you need to establish the mindset of "We will just have to play well enough to offset a bad call".

It may seem like I hate MM and I don't He was a decent coach (not great, but decent) who stopped working hard the last few seasons in Green Bay and across his career in Green Bay had a few faults that self scouting never fixed.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 05, 2022 at 03:08 pm

in regards to decent vs great - what was the overall record and playoff appearances. MM was a great coach. Decent? That's just ignorant.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 05, 2022 at 03:28 pm

Mike Zimmer is a decent coach. So too Ron Rivera. Todd Bowles was a decent coach.

You don't get in the playoffs consistently and NFC championship games by being decent. Belichick regards McCarthy as a great coach.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 06, 2022 at 07:11 am

Ron Rivera caught my eye for reasons that are too long. I don't think MM was a great coach, but I think he was very good. Rivera had Cam Newton who outside of his best year was a good but not great QB. And Rivera had Dave Gettleman as GM. Gettleman did some good things but he has done little with the Giants in four years. MM had Favre, Rodgers and then Prescott. I think Prescott >> Newton. And MM had Ted Thompson. Once Thompson started to slip, so did MM. Rivera was coach of the year in 2013 and 2015.

Oh well, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

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Bitternotsour's picture

January 05, 2022 at 03:19 pm

that's so simplistic Al, you know that offense was much more than vertical routes and "just go get open". There were a lot of things that went into that slide, and Mike had a significant role, but c'mon.

Do you blame Rodgers for his insubordination? Disloyalty is not a virtue. Sheesh.

Yet another prime example of entitled town.

As for the shot at Dallas loss this week to the Cardinals, did you see the comeback and did you see the calls in the first half. C'mon. Let that shit go. Mike McCarthy is a winner, and his teams are nobody's underdog.

I can guarantee you he's never had his damn eyebrows waxed.

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Johnblood27's picture

January 06, 2022 at 08:40 am

Im pretty sure that MLF gets threaded, not waxed... just sayin...

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Packers0808's picture

January 05, 2022 at 10:37 am

With all the distractions and injuries what really more can be asked of this team during the REGULAR season. They have performed admirably with a few cliches. And the cheer leading is great by the head coach, he or it shows it seems to be how much he is into this team and their accomplishments. If everything keeps clicking like it has been this team should move ahead!

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splitpea1's picture

January 05, 2022 at 12:04 pm

Tiny sample size, but Tyler Davis has caught everything thrown to him; he could be a useful player on offense down the stretch.

I'm not taking the hot-and-cold Cowboys (or any other potential opponent) lightly at all--the "hot" version could be challenging for our secondary and could result in a track meet-type of game. And no matter what anyone thinks of Mike McCarthy and his faults, he's still a more accomplished head coach than MLF at this point. Should the two teams meet, I think it would be a fascinating match-up--one where we would ultimately prevail, but possibly a little nerve-racking.

Red noses: Does the NFL allow the coaches to wear ski masks in the bitter cold? I mean, why suffer if you don't have to?

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 05, 2022 at 12:51 pm

The secret weapon, like Crabtree in 2010.

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splitpea1's picture

January 05, 2022 at 02:48 pm

You got it!

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 05, 2022 at 11:56 am

"Close to the Vest - How about LaFleur sporting a vest and not a parka in that weather?"

I bet he's got some serious underlayer action going on there. Like 300-400g wool. He's also moving around. One thing I've learned from deer hunting is there are no clothes that I can stay warm in just sitting there that I can even slowly walk around in for 5 minutes without starting to overheat.

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dobber's picture

January 05, 2022 at 12:55 pm

Layers and zippers, man. Layers and zippers.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 06, 2022 at 07:14 am

Well I agree, not that I've ever gone hunting in my life (or participated in any cold-weather sport).

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 05, 2022 at 01:15 pm

I thought that MLFs vest was both stylish and practical - he could be the cover for Winter GQ.

I'm not sure that Zimmer's red nose was entirely due to the cold. Given the Vikings record over the last 2 years - it may also be due to some other "coping" factor.

I am sensing that the wheels on the Cowboys bandwagon may be wobbling a little bit down the home stretch. If so, I look forward to another Jerry Jones exit interview.

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jurp's picture

January 05, 2022 at 01:25 pm

I hope that Jerrah never realizes that the man whose exit from the team would most help the team is himself.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

January 05, 2022 at 01:45 pm

Ditto. Yet he is in the HOF - which only proves that cronyism is alive and well in the NFL.

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