This is the main problem that we are facing and the main problem that most believed we would be facing all the way back in April. This team is very talented but I do have significant concerns about it not gelling because Rodgers has pulled such a diva move. Your point about insider leaks throughout the season saying that QB one is upset about this or that is prescient. THIS WILL HAPPEN. That said, I think we will walk through the NFC North. I also think that we will bomb out in the playoffs, losing painfully to a team that we shouldn’t have, once again. This time, because the team never gelled. Then Rodgers will be traded sometime in March of 2022.

Yeah, Mark Murphy and Brian Gutekunst probably should’ve communicated better with their long-time signal-caller. But to suggest that QB1 has any reason for Tom Brady envy is absolutely ridiculous. HEY AROD - Get over yourself and understand that Brady has gotten extremely lucky over the years. TGR pointed it out below. Brady is great, but he's not GOAT. He's a lucky and a smart SOB. Point blank: If Rodgers wanted more ability to call the personnel shots, then he should have taken half the contract value that he has taken for over a decade: just like Brady has, so as to provide the front office with maximum flexibility.

QB1. Great quarterback. But I am so over this passive-aggressive, D bag.

Yes indeed, there will probably be a lot of "click bait" stories in the media about Rodgers and the Packers. That, indeed, Rodgers every on field action and off field comment will be analyzed for hidden meanings. Did that handshake between Murphy and Rodgers look genuine? What did that look on Rodgers face "really mean"? It's natural, and part of the new reality. The only question being, will sites like this be part of the problem, or part of the solution?

If they win, the FO, coaches, and Rodgers himself may very well forgive and forget. For many fans, however, Rodgers will forever be a horse’s arse. Many still don’t feel the same way about Favre.

All of this is still overblown by anxious fans, those which can't deal with drama and ambiguity. Any personnel or company manager deals with this stuff all the time. To say the locker room should be a frat house, sloppy kiss buddies to "gel", or that reporter's questions after a game is going to be a "distraction"???? Jeez, come-on, this is totally silly. So guys can't digest the playbook, or forget their assignments because they're wondering if Rodgers is committed? Or they give less than 100 percent because he might tank the team? Rodgers made a play for change, and while he didn't do everything in the most congenial way, he didn't do anything particularly destructive either. I've said that I lost a lot of respect for Rodgers, and that still stands. But, neither is he a D-bag either. Said it all along, He'll play. They won't kiss and make up. It won't matter. They'll get to the NFCCG as professionals.

The Packers are an organization just like any large corporation. There is a rank and file for a reason. And in the case with the Packers, Rodgers does not have the full insights or vision that the team executives have. Many corporations have ARod type of employees but they certainly are not calling the shots….the CEO’s and Senior Executives are. These great employees are asked for their input on certain things and Rodgers has been asked as well. Just not to his satisfaction. I honestly think that these athletes have been so coddled since grade school that they lose sight of reality. And it’s probably only going to get worse…

As for the season, I just can’t wait for the first game regardless of who is at QB.

I've changed my mind about this issue a few times. I've resigned myself to the fact that if he shows up and plays with enthusiasm, Rodgers is the best QB. He's also in a position to move the team to the playoffs and beyond.

Having Love take over now would not be productive. The pressure on him would be like what Trubisky faced in Chicago and Darnold in New York. The media and know-it-all-fans would hound him every little misstep.

Bortles? Stop gap, though I think he should be around. A veteran is better than a rookie as a backup.

I won't boo Rodgers, but he really damaged what I thought about him. He proved once and for all he's a diva, but like the opera, you need great performers to put on a good show.

You don't need forgive, you don't need to forget.

What you do is accept what is, and move on.

What happens the next time Matt LaFleur decides to kick a field goal on 4th down and Rodgers disagrees? Ask Taryn that question for what Rodgers should do and award yourself a nice grin at what football would look like. More like Rugby?

I do believe there comes a time when a very experienced quarterback should have more input. Depends whether the coaches have the required disposition and creativity to allow input, as the old style authoritarianism wouldn't work too well.

After 16 years and pre-dating LaFleur, Rodgers acquired enormous detail of all that happens on the field at angles coaches never have. To discount that intelligence is stupid. That doesn't mean to say he calls the shots nor ever go against the coaches/GM in the final decisions. Just sayin that a successful QB in today's game is very rare and unique, and GM/coaches can certainly figure out how to involve the QB input more without yielding control nor "turning the aslyum over to the inmates' (a nice metaphor often posted here). Seems Brady-Arians struck that good balance, and perhaps set a model. I'll bet Wilson, Mahomes will be heard more if they ask for a particular type of receiver style as a outlet, and even Burrow, Watson and Jackson if they press for particular Oline men with certain unique propensities (because they are seeing stuff in live fire from 2' away every play). Imagine a unit commander from his office not listening to the field guy in battle reporting the unfolding threat/weakness/strength and opportunity? How's that for my analogy?

Forgive and forget what? Rodgers didnt do anything besides remain silent, which he has a right to do. The person we should not be forgiving and forgetting is Adam Schefter. Another liar, but thats what people like him are in the business of, and have been for a long, long time.

Rodgers is a Packer first. Respect that; and you won't need to Boo. Rodger's has a right to say what he wants. Regardless what the front office thinks. This still is a Free Country. The fact he's under Contract, is only an agreement. His personal life had nothing to do with it. And he can only lead if they let him. But the point he was making is; do they really want that? People don't complain or Quit, unless their felling used, or unappreciated. Which in this case is obvious. Rodger's is very competitive and is the best at what he does. IF were going to win the division. Rodger's must be the QB.

It bothers me a bit the freedom MCCarthy gave Bun Man and what did that get us a stale team and a man playing poorly just to get rid of the head coach. Wonder what the heck will happen if giving this power again by LaFluer and the Packers to Rodgers! Will we have the same out come again? I don't remember seeing this point put across any where on this thread? Or will the Packers and LaFluer not don this again looking at the past history of this kind of thing? Granted it was play calling at the line but it is an insight of what Rodgers is like.

It bothers me a bit the freedom MCCarthy gave Bun Man and what did that get us a stale team and a man playing poorly just to get rid of the head coach. Wonder what the heck will happen if giving this power again by LaFluer and the Packers to Rodgers! Will we have the same out come again? I don't remember seeing this point put across any where on this thread? Or will the Packers and LaFluer not don this again looking at the past history of this kind of thing? Granted it was play calling at the line but it is an insight of what Rodgers is like.

It bothers me a bit the freedom MCCarthy gave Bun Man and what did that get us a stale team and a man playing poorly just to get rid of the head coach. Wonder what the heck will happen if giving this power again by LaFluer and the Packers to Rodgers! Will we have the same out come again? I don't remember seeing this point put across any where on this thread? Or will the Packers and LaFluer not don this again looking at the past history of this kind of thing? Granted it was play calling at the line but it is an insight of what Rodgers is like. Ooops don't know why triple posts only hit once!

Between the 2019 and 2020 seasons, Rodgers, Hackett and LaFleur met and reviewed every offensive play of the 19 season. Together they rebuilt the offense, looking at the strengths and weaknesses of the last season, each contributing their perspective and experience to the 2020 offense. The result was the best offensive performance in the NFL. It would be hard for Rodgers to walk away from that experience and not think management would similarly benefit from at least listening to his thoughts on players. I (we) don’t actually know what Rodgers is asking of management, but if it is input into who the team cuts, that may not be unreasonable. Input is not decision authority, it is just adding perspective to the decision process.

The Packers should have traded him. When they drafted Love they should have considered this scenario as a possibility and planned for it. Everyone knows AR has a chip on his shoulder. Is Murphy so blind that even after the Favre turmoil, he could not see this issue was coming?

Murphy is old school and probably views QBs via a 30 year old lens. That needs to change whether AR is here or gone. Great QBs will be divas to some extent. Live with it or retire. AR's MVP season undermined the Packers plan and now they know their best chance to win in 2021 is with him.

By not trading him, you force a possibly disgruntled player at the most important position to play. How that pans out, nobody knows. I think AR is a professional and will play accordingly but if something happens that ticks him off, who knows? And the article is right that the Packers will be a media circus all season. Not good for the player or the organization.

These situations rarely end well and I expect this circus will linger until AR retires. Keeping him here after this mess was a choice but only winning a SB will make it a good one.

As the old saying goes “be careful what you wish for”

If Rodgers really wants Tom Brady status on this team:

Is he willing to take less money so the Packers can sign a few key players with a tight salary cap?
Put your money where your mouth is Aaron, how much do you really care about winning?

Does Rodgers really want the GM responsibility of making decisions on who stays and who goes? It’s easy to sit back and be pissed when one of your buddies get cut, how about when you cut a guy that then goes out and becomes an All Pro? Either way you piss guys off in the locker room and divide a team.

Does he want to go to another team at 38, learn a whole new system, a whole new locker room, new coaching staff and then still probably bow out early in the playoffs. His best chance to win is in Green Bay and he knows it!

Does he want to tarnish a legacy that we know is extremely important to him, Green Bay fans do not forget we take it quite personal.
Will we forgive? Yes, Eventually but we never forget.

There is a reason he hasn’t shown up at the Bucks Championship run, he knows he’s going to get his Ass booed!

It will be very interesting and telling how both the Packers FO and Rodgers handle this in the coming weeks. This is Packers history in the making boys,
get your popcorn ready!

Brady got (is getting) his way because he became a "free agent" after not resigning with NE. He then, based on his reputation is getting this so called "power". All the rest of the "elite" QBs in the league could do the same. No one made Rodgers sign that recent huge contract and put the Packers in salary cap hell (well maybe not hell). All the other guys can or could the same thing.

Your comment about "who gets fired" is exactly right. If things don't work out , Rodgers gets to just walk away with no skin off his nose.

He (Rodgers) has no real skin in the game. So what, if he doesn't win the SB, he still get paid and can always blame someone else. The FO is where the buck stops.

I would offer Rodgers a deal. You help call the shots and if it works out you get the credit. If not you give back half your salary and all your incentive pay for a at least one year. I'd be curious if he would take the deal.

How can this question be answered? We don’t know what has been said and done. Without that it’s impossible to know how this will be viewed in hindsight.

EXACTLY Coldworld.

We are seeing a multitude of people that assume something (that they have no proof of) and then criticise as if it were a fact.

While it is fun to express an opinion, they are usually filtered through a fans own prejudices and lead to unsafe conclusions. Too little is known, and too many fans are setting up unproven strawmen to knock down.

Who really knows the full details, apart from the front office and Rodgers himself - we sure as hell don't know the half of it.

Rodgers's FO problems should have been handled privately behind closed doors. He was the one with the problem and leaked it to the media. However, if he comes back and the team shows no signs of being negatively effected by this, it will be a fading memory for me.

"Never has so much been made by so many of so little." Paraphrase of W. Churchill.

Assuming Rodgers shows up for TC he will work hard, play well and be professional as he always has.
As long as that is true who cares how he and the FO get along.

Virtually nothing has happened that we are aware of. However, what we do know is that Rodgers has not committed a crime, he hasn't been arrested for DUI, or for beating his girlfriend or for beating a child with a switch or any number of other crimes numerous NFL players have been guilty of. Imagine what this blog would be like if Rodgers went into rehab like Favre did prior to the 1996 SB season.

I'm a Packers fan first and I will root for the team regardless of who is playing and whether or not they have a harmonious relationship with the FO, especially if the team is winning. The Bronx Zoo Yankees had all kinds of battles with Steinbrenner but the fans loved them because they won on the field. The same is true for Rodgers and the Packers. Rodgers gives the Packers the best chance to win in 2021. In the absence. of committing an actual crime that's all that should matter to the fans. Thanks, Since '61

We don't even know how the FO and players feel NOW, so speculating on the locker room, et al, is useless. When a neighbor asked me at the beginning of (whatever this is) this, she asked me, "Who's going to leave: Gutey or Rodgers?" I just said, "Neither." I've tried to avoid all the click bait articles on this alleged problem because when all is said or done I root for the Packers regardless of who is the QB1. I was against the FO bringing Favre back for his big "Diva" half-time moment as I thought it gave the wrong message. I believe Rodgers learned two things from Favre: 1) Don't throw questionable interceptions and 2) The fans will forgive -anything- if they like your play on the field.

How about if everyone says “ We understand, We are certainly at least partially at fault. We will make sure there is greater communication and appreciation for all involved. We are all sorry. We love ya. Hug, hug…hug”

Players develop bonds with each other. They avoid getting into others players business. My guess is that they like and respect him as a teammate and player. Yet they also want to win. Winning helps them too. My guess is that they want #12 back and respond to questions about him with a positive take. But #12 is pissed about something and that doesn’t go away easy. He has made his point and the next step is up to him because the FO is not going to change.

Schefter is a parasite.

I think EXCITEMENT is the key word. I do expect Aaron to report and play this year, but we have a super team assembled, fully capable of going to the Super Bowl. I think the "Locker room" will welcome him with open arms which is key. Both Rodgers and the organization leaders will put on a good front with the media. After we start the season 2 wins with no losses, everyone will be excited and all in on the season.

So many have called Rodgers names, cursed him, etc, etc, but all will be forgotten and forgiven, as has been for payers who have done worse, because of one belief that is etched in stone among fans, 'In The Name of Winning' you mostly don't care what a player has done, not done, said, not said. You will embrace them as long as they win. This is why you're the worst people in any scenario concerning a player, you cave to winning over the bad actions of the player.

How many will say at some point this season, Rodgers may be an ass, but the team is winning and as long as he helps the team win, I'm OK, or if GB makes it to the SB, " Sure glad we didn't trade him, and the FO has to fix this so he can stay in GB? You know you will, though some will deny, you will.

Kind of dumb question. Obviously the players are leaning towards him coming back and thus have no animosity towards him. The Management will breathe a sigh of relief and say thanks to whomever it is they pray too. Jordan Love will kick his dog in the ass when he gets home and pour himself some scotch, and the fans will go wild and think he were going all the way.

I just hope the marriage isnt braking the bank and giving him the biggest contract in football. This team needs real players, not a raft of free agents and crappy pass defenders other teams passed on for a good reason.

Can the Packers win with Love...yes. Would they win more games with Rodgers...yes.

This is a talented roster with solid depth at most positions. Rodgers knows this. And it has been a quiet summer from both camps which is encouraging.

I envision Rodgers showing up for camp saying something like "what the Team and I talked about has been productive and it will remain between us. Now I am ready to go to work with my teammates."

Maybe he will even show up wearing a T shirt saying "I am Content".

Rodgers has too much respect for his teammates, his coaches and the Packer Nation not to play his absolute best! The fact that Rodgers hasn't denied wanting out or possibly asking for Gutey's job, only indicates that he is taking a business stance and doesn't want to alienate the fans. His legacy is very important to him. Breaching the fans trust would irreparably damage his legacy in GB. By the same token he loves his teammates too much not to play his best. He would be telling his teammates to F Off (and he's more important than they are, right or not) by not playing his best.

Rodgers can certainly voice his thoughts on who is released and who stays. But under no circumstances should he be in the room when the decision is ultimately made. He has voiced his opinion on Jordy and even Kumerow. Unfortunately the FO and Rodgers have vastly different responsibilities. As a player Rodgers is only concerned about winning right now. 3 or 5 years from now are not even in his thought process. The FO on the other hand must consider the next 3-5 yrs. They have a responsibility to keep the teams on the winning side of the balance sheet (and yes there is a financial aspect in that responsibility).

In regards to Brady/TB envy... they are very disparate situations! TB was irrelevant for more than a decade, had a team mostly ready to win except couldn't find a QB to lead them (despite many tries). TB was desperate for a QB and for winning! They din't care who is calling the shots or why. The Packers on the other hand have been successful for about the past 30 yrs! They've had stability w/in the organization from top to bottom during that time and QB among the best in the league! TB has no stability outside of maybe ownership but that ownership seems to be inept. They change HC and GM's on a whim. They are completely lacking stability! If TB was smart they would copy the Packers model and draft a QB when they aren't desperate for one and give that QB the time and resources to succeed.

You wonder why Rodgers hasn't shown at a Bucks game, being part owner? Probably because there will be a great chorus of boos for him and he loves his legacy too much!

Here are a couple recent headlines:

Feb 25--
Could Fractured Relationship Between Russell Wilson, Seahawks Lead to Blockbuster QB Swap?
According to his agent, Wilson hasn't demanded a trade and wants to stay with the Seahawks. But if the organization believes the relationship is beyond repair and makes him available, the quarterback has four potential destinations in mind.

July 14--
Russell Wilson says relationship with Pete Carroll 'stronger than ever' after offseason trade rumors
Russell Wilson wants Seattle Seahawks fans to know everything is good between him and head coach Pete Carroll. Wilson said his relationship with Carroll is actually "stronger than ever."

In GB, this too shall pass.

The media LOVES this garbage. "Will he show up? Is he upset? Should the Packers promise him more money? Apologize? Personnel influence? The world??

Who effing cares. Rodgers is under contract for 3 years. The Packers won't trade him, they have his rights. Rodgers can't trade himself. He can choose not show up and deal with the financial ramifications laid out in his contract and the CBA. Pretty simple. The focus should be on preparing for the season and preparing to win games. Rodgers decides if he wants to be a part of that, move forward if he doesn't. So simple. Placating is over. Rodgers is coming out of this looking like a diva in the future.

This may sound weird, but I believe that the longer AR stays away, the better it is for the Pack. Let Love takes all the TC snaps (ok-save a few for Bortles). Let him play the whole of pre-season games 1 & 2. We need to know if this kid can play, and if Rodgers is in town, he won't get meaningful reps. THEN, AR can ride in like an old western hero and get loosened up playing ps game 3. Yippee-eye-o-kay-yay! We've got a real shot at a SB with a HOF starting QB AND a real backup QB. How's that sound, pardner?
The Szotman

This is like a divorce and staying together for an extra 6 months because the kid will be going to college then.

Truth is that wont work neither party is committed just going through the motions waiting for it to end with a fake smile.

Give me the thumbs down all yoi want homers but it is time to move on doesnt matter who is at fault .

He’s coming back… and winning cures everything.!

"But one can’t help but wonder if everyone in the locker room will be walking on egg shells, terrified to do or say anything that will tick him off. " What a stupid comment. These are professional players and grown men. Your comment makes them sound like children.

The most disappointing aspect to the Rogers drama is that it is becoming clear that, despite what 12 says about fans, teammates and area, he is actually pissing on all of the above with these antics. He has found himself with only two cards to play in his bluff game and
those cards are not aces. It will be very hard for his ego to accept a return to play with his tail between his legs. More the shame is that
The Pack are going to field a damn good team and with Rogers could win it all.