Can Jordan Love Continue the Packers Domination of the Bears?

The Green Bay Packers will open their 2023 NFL season in Chicago against the Bears in a renewal of their oldest and most traditional rivalry.

The Packers now lead the all-time regular-season series between these two teams 104-94-6. That’s in large part due to the dominance that the Packers had since 1992 when Brett Favre became their starting quarterback before being succeeded by Aaron Rodgers in 2008.

In 1992, the Bears held a 79-57-6 edge in the rivalry. Since then, the Packers have won 47 games and lost only 15.

The Packers have won the last eight meetings with Chicago and 13 of the last 14 dating back to 2016. The only game they’ve lost since then came in 2018 under the leadership of interim coach Joe Philbin.

In his career, Rodgers went 24-5 against the Bears, throwing 64 touchdowns and only 10 interceptions while compiling a quarterback rating of 109.0.

The famous quote from Rodgers about the Bears came in 2021 when the quarterback scrambled for a touchdown at Soldier Field and exclaimed, “I own you! All my bleeping life, I own you! I still own you!”

There are so many great moments that Rodgers had against Chicago. In the playoffs, he led the Packers to a victory in the 2010 NFC Championship Game. While Rodgers struggled statistically on a cold, windy day in Chicago, he made a game-saving, shoestring tackle of Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher that helped preserve the Packers 21-14 win and earned them a trip to Super Bowl XLV.

He threw a last-minute, 48-yard touchdown pass to Randall Cobb in the 2013 season finale to clinch the NFC North title for the Packers in Chicago. Both Rodgers and Cobb returned to action from lengthy injuries for that game and they came through in the clutch to earn the Pack a playoff berth.

In 2014, Rodgers threw six touchdown passes against the Bears in the first half as the Packers routed Chicago 55-14 on Sunday Night Football at Lambeau.

In the 2018 season opener, also on Sunday Night Football, Rodgers led the Packers to a 24-23 comeback win over the Bears in a game the Pack trailed 17-0 at the half. Rodgers was injured in that game in the second quarter but returned midway through the third quarter to lead the comeback.

Favre was no slouch against the Bears in a Packers uniform. He played 32 games against Chicago and the Packers went 22-10 in those contests. Favre threw 53 touchdowns and 38 interceptions vs Chicago.

Favre’s most memorable game against the Bears came in Week 11 of the 1995 season. The previous week, Favre suffered a badly sprained ankle against the Vikings and his status for the game and his consecutive games streak were up in the air.

Favre played and completed 25-of-33 passes for 336 yards and a career-high five touchdown passes in the Packers 35-28 victory. His quarterback rating in that game was also his best at 147.2.

He followed that up with a four-touchdown pass performance in Week 6 of 1996 in Chicago in the Packers 37-6 crushing of the Bears.

There is obviously pressure on Love taking over at quarterback after the Packers had back-to-back Hall of Fame signal callers. The last player to face that challenge was Jeff Garcia who became the starter in San Francisco 1999 after Joe Montana and Steve Young had been starters there dating back to 1979.

Garcia was 29 and was a five-year starter in the Canadian Football League when he became the starter in San Francisco, while Love will only be 25 when he takes over in Green Bay this fall.

Love is unlikely to match Favre or Rodgers as a Hall of Fame quarterback although the Packers would be happy if he simply becomes a quality NFL starter who can help the team contend for the next decade or more.

In his first three seasons in the NFL, Love has appeared in 10 games, starting one. He has yet to take a snap against the Bears, but he will get his chance both in the season opener this year and the season finale.

After three years in Green Bay, Love understands the rivalry between the Packers and the Bears. Now he has a chance to make his own mark on that rivalry and hopefully to continue the Packers recent dominance over Chicago.

 

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TKWorldWide's picture

May 13, 2023 at 12:12 pm

After some deep analytics, I’m going with a hard MAYBE.

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greengold's picture

May 13, 2023 at 02:26 pm

Homer.

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greengold's picture

May 13, 2023 at 06:13 pm

I love that this got a down vote.

Some of my best work.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 13, 2023 at 06:37 pm

I agree! That was funny!

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cdoemel's picture

May 13, 2023 at 06:19 pm

When someone calls me a “homer” it hits the same way as if someone would call me a racist or fascist. It shuts down the conversation. Which is ultimately the point, but it’s lazy and pathetic. I thought we were down with name calling after elementary school. Calling someone a homer is basically saying you have no good argument, don’t want to engage in conversation where thoughts and ideas are shared and just want to hurt the person you’re talking to. So FU! 🤣🤷‍♂️

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 13, 2023 at 06:41 pm

CD,
I am late to the party but I believe you mistook GG's intended glib humor and misinterpreted.

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tyrolean_cheese's picture

May 13, 2023 at 06:49 pm

Go to wikipedia and search for :
Homer greek poet

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LambeauPlain's picture

May 14, 2023 at 08:45 am

G&G didn't even call you a "homer" in his poke of fun and you still have the arrogance to tell others how to think and over-react as you do?

Come on...you were kidding too, right? Right? No one can be that thin skinned can they? And to swear on your sign off? Classy.

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Packerpasty's picture

May 14, 2023 at 10:16 am

Bingo, thats GreenGold...strange dude for sure...keyboard warrior supreme...

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TKWorldWide's picture

May 13, 2023 at 09:52 pm

Sorry, is there a reply here? I cannot read it through my green and gold glasses.

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zeke's picture

May 14, 2023 at 04:18 am

Homer.

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greengold's picture

May 14, 2023 at 04:50 am

The economy of it all… priceless.

Those half votey things = cleeeeeean livin’.

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Bure9620's picture

May 13, 2023 at 12:13 pm

Perhaps not dominate to the level of the last 30 years but I firmly believe Jordan Love will have a winning g record against the Bears during his tenure. I am not sold on their roster this year either, I do not trust their O-line at all. The Packers still have a better roster right now and I believe they will compete for the division this year.

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Bure9620's picture

May 13, 2023 at 12:13 pm

Perhaps not dominate to the level of the last 30 years but I firmly believe Jordan Love will have a winning g record against the Bears during his tenure. I am not sold on their roster this year either, I do not trust their O-line at all. The Packers still have a better roster right now and I believe they will compete for the division this year.

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greengold's picture

May 13, 2023 at 01:36 pm

Exactly, Bure.

The Bears got better this off-season with their talent acquisitions, but, so did an already better Packers team.

I think the Packers skill positions will be the difference along with a dominant D. I can’t wait to see what Wyatt, Van Ness, Wooden, Brooks & Cox Jr. do to the Bears up front. 6-3 314 Kenny Clark, 6-5 338 Jonathan Ford & 6-4 330 TJ Slaton notwithstanding...

GB added a shit ton of pass rush and RUN STOP!

CHI won’t be able to recognize the amount of dynamic power the Packers will bring on both sides of the ball.

I can easily see Aaron Jones & AJ Dillon splitting 40 carries, with a dominating OL clearing the way.

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marpag1's picture

May 13, 2023 at 12:21 pm

I don't get it. The Bears still suck, right?

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ricky's picture

May 13, 2023 at 03:58 pm

Always have. Always will.

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Untylu1968's picture

May 13, 2023 at 12:25 pm

He can, and he will!

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greengold's picture

May 13, 2023 at 12:30 pm

First of all, this isn't Jordan Love's charge to dominate the Bears. All he has to do is run the Offense in the manner LaFleur wants it to be done.

LaFleur FINALLY has a scheme perfect and compliant QB1, along with every tool in the drawer to run all of his concepts. It's a very young Offense, but, brings a time tested group all along the OL.

Battles are won in the trenches, and the Packers have spent 3 years heavily fortifying both on O & D.

Defensively, the Packers have been on a 3 draft program to accumulate players for Barry to run his scheme. We added quite a lot to that side of the ball in that span. Stokes, Slaton, Ford, Walker, Wyatt, Enagbare, Van Ness, Wooden, Brooks, Valentine, Johnson Jr. & Cox Jr., Rasul Douglas and Tarvarius Moore. That's a pretty exciting group of defenders there, all of whom in the past two drafts/FA bring with them great Run D, which has been a major team weakness.

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The Bears added the OT Wright, a WR in Scott, a RB in Roschon Johnson via the draft, along with FA RG Nate Davis from TEN up front. They needed to pass protect & run block. They also snagged Robert Tonyan at TE.

Their D was garbage last season, and they added 2 CBs via the draft, along with NT Gervon Dexter. In FA they added to pretty solid LBs in TJ Edwards from PHI, DE Rasheem Green from HOU and DT Andrew Billings from CLE.

Needless to say, CHI went on a FA spending spree. Their draft brings some solid players to cover up some weaknesses.

I just happen to see GB having started their reboot a couple of years sooner than the Bears, putting them ahead on the talent front.

Bears are going to suffer from not having film to counter what LaFleur has been dreaming up for years for Jordan Love offensively. Nor does CHI have any clue what Joe Barry's D is going to deliver. Us fans are equally left in the dark, but, we did add some formidable talents all over to complete Barry's positional needs.

Should be fun to see the Packers begin their new era meeting this challenge Game 1 in Chicago. I think our skill players will be too much for CHI to handle, especially with Love being given time to throw, and a solid, battle tested tandem of RBs to mix up our offerings and keep CHI's D playing honest.

The Bears in CHI are not going to be the push over we all remember. They've added talent and speed on both sides of the ball.

Both teams have gone to great lengths to become more competitive.

RUN THE ROCK. It will wear CHI's D out, open everything else up in the passing game, and will take a ton of heat off Love in his first meaningful start as QB1.

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PackyCheese500's picture

May 14, 2023 at 11:06 am

Personally, I don't believe the bears will be one of the worst teams in the league. I think they have a roster that is largely on caliber with ours, and I would expect a similar finish between us (7-9 wins).

I think Poles was smart to advocate free agency resources to non-premium positions (such as ILB and TE) so that he can draft more premium positions (DT, OT), which means that they won't have to pay as much for them. The end result is a net cap savings, because the prices of DTs and OTs are significantly higher than ILBs and TEs.

I think the Bears fixed their weaknesses at LB and WR, but I don't think they did enough to fix their OL or DL, especially the latter.

TBH I think the Packers will narrowly pull out a win at Soldier Field in week 1.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

May 16, 2023 at 03:49 am

I too want to see O line dominance allowing a run first offense. Short routes to TE. Then chunk plays to WR rarely, but a real threat.

While I have no way of knowing why this hasn't happened the last couple seasons, MLF should be able to scheme them open.

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Coldworld's picture

May 13, 2023 at 12:32 pm

Who knows what the Bears are going to be this year. They can’t be worse than last year, but they are betting on perhaps the worst pure passing QB to return as a starter to improve and stay healthy and they have not been as aggressive in FA as I anticipated. Perhaps they still doubt their direction too,

In the Love versus Fields personal match up I don’t see Fields as a guaranteed winner. I’d pick our OL and our D to be better on paper. Other than DJ Moore, they have Kmet and Herbert on O. So thinner perhaps in threat, but more experienced at the top.

The big question for me is who will prepare better and win the coaching battle?

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marpag1's picture

May 13, 2023 at 02:38 pm

"they are betting on perhaps the worst pure passing QB"

Who knows if the Bears had any interested trade partners, but if they had even a tolerable offer on the table for Fields, they probably should have traded him, kept their top pick and taken a QB. Fields might be a stud as a runner, but you won't win in the NFL with a runner who can't throw.

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Coldworld's picture

May 13, 2023 at 04:43 pm

A cynic might say that they like the chances of a QB next year better.

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marpag1's picture

May 14, 2023 at 05:12 am

Yes, and that might even be a smart move, so I doubt that is what the Bears were thinking. But just in case they were... A cynic of cynics might say that they traded down from 1 to 9 so that they will have two first rounders next year. That way, in the unlikely event that they don't suck enough to get a top 3 pick next year, they will still have the ammo to move up.

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Bitternotsour's picture

May 14, 2023 at 09:10 am

bobby douglas 2.0

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

May 16, 2023 at 03:52 am

Preparation, that's what I'm hoping to see in our favor. TB12 vs AR12, that's the one main thing Aaron failed.

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TarynsEyes's picture

May 13, 2023 at 12:36 pm

A win over the Bears is nothing to boast about, a loss to the Bears will echo loud that the pressure placed proves, more probable, no diamond in this chunk of coal.

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Untylu1968's picture

May 13, 2023 at 01:44 pm

I'm a little slow, so let me get this straight. If he QBs his team to a victory, in his first ever start on opening day, no big deal, but if the team loses, it's career over and he's a shit piece of cole with no future?

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greengold's picture

May 13, 2023 at 01:59 pm

Black cloud's gonna black cloud.

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TarynsEyes's picture

May 13, 2023 at 03:21 pm

No black cloud in my sights. I'd say translucent because I see through bs.

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greengold's picture

May 14, 2023 at 07:56 am

Thunderclap.

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TarynsEyes's picture

May 13, 2023 at 03:19 pm

You are a little slow. I made no inference to his career being over, but that he might not become the diamond hoped for or believed already to be.

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Coldworld's picture

May 13, 2023 at 04:53 pm

Sorry, but a bad game by Love in Chicago likely doesn’t mean a lot in isolation. Sure, a truly great game would excite, but it too wouldn’t guarantee that next week.

There will be a lot of players that are inexperienced. The Bears will look different and, if LaFleur/Barry don’t have us readier than the first game last year, well, we all know how good that made vets look.

No, a bad game for Love is a possibility first time out in what is hopefully a largely revamped system. It will mean little. What matters is what we think we have by the second time they meet.

What may be significant is how well prepared we seem and what we see in terms of scheme, adjustments and player usage from Barry and LaFleur. I expect Love to be up and down. Barry and LaFleur aren’t new, they need to show that they have a vision this year, that it’s credible and that they have their players set up to deliver on it.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 13, 2023 at 06:53 pm

As GG explained the Bears have improved thru their draft & FA this year. Add Fields added experience and confidence and I too believe they are no longer the helpless team they have been previously. I suspect the games against the Bears will be hotly contested and if I had to project I see Jordan Love playing very well in those games. I am actually believing he will be more confident than most of us expect. Should the Packers lose in the home opener at Chicago the loss likely will not be Jordan Love's fault. I do share some of CW's concern about the Packer coaching and whether they have the team prepared properly.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 13, 2023 at 02:08 pm

A win, on the road, against a divisional opponent, is a good thing.

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TarynsEyes's picture

May 13, 2023 at 03:15 pm

Sure, it's a good thing, but how good if everyone says the Bears suck. It would be getting awarded for finding the pile of crap to step on.

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Leatherhead's picture

May 13, 2023 at 04:46 pm

Well, I'd rather beat the Bears than anybody, whether they're good or bad.

It's amazing that you considering beating our old division rival as somehow similar to stepping on a pile of crap. I don't see the relation, but I'm sure it somehow makes perfect sense to you.

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Coldworld's picture

May 13, 2023 at 05:00 pm

Which coach can get his roster better prepared and be the more tactically astute? Each faces a team with questions at QB, a lot of new faces in their first game together and, potentially, revamped schemes.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 14, 2023 at 12:18 am

Are we really arguing the importance of beating the Bears right now? Crappy team or not, its still the Bears. And its Love's 1st opening day start, first start against the Bears, and his first start in Chicago. Its the only game that matters right now. Week 2 can wait. Just win the game in front of you.

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PackyCheese500's picture

May 14, 2023 at 11:07 am

I think the Bears are much better this year, so it wouldn't exactly be humiliating. However, I do believe we are in line for a season split. I do not trust MLF or Barry at all.

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splitpea1's picture

May 13, 2023 at 01:03 pm

It's tough to say right now. A lot depends on how fast the Bears can work their way back to respectability. The only thing good about them last year was that they led the league in rushing offense. Looking back at last year's defense, there's nowhere to go but up for them; same is true with their passing game. So they spent a bunch of draft and FA capital on LBs, DL, and OL; and added D.J. Moore.

Although it may take a little while for these new parts to mesh, we shouldn't count on the same level of suckiness the Bears have exhibited for much of the past 30 years.

Also while it's easy to focus on the QB's success against a particular opponent, the rest of the participating players have a little something to do with it as well.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 13, 2023 at 06:55 pm

Well said Split!

I essentially said the same thing above and just now reading your thoughts on same.

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NickPerry's picture

May 13, 2023 at 01:14 pm

Since the schedule came out you can go to any NFL football site and look at all the different season projections for the Packers. It's been the opinion of most the norm is anywhere from 6-11 to 10-7 for the Packers. Hell, Bill Huber even projected the Packers to lose BOTH games to the Lions...AGAIN, and the opener to Chicago and again in week two against Atlanta to start 0-2. Sorry Bill, you're WRONG! And I don't think I'll visit your site again, well at least until the Packers start 2-0 instead of your 0-2!

My hope is that it doesn't all fall on Jordan Love to continue the domination. While I think he's fully capable to come out and throw for 300 yards and 4 TDs in week one against THAT defense, I honestly think the 2023 Packers will do what we thought the MLF lead Packers would do when he was first hired. Win with a solid running game, playing good defense, and that illusion of complexity on full display.

YES, the domination will continue, it's just not going to all fall on Jordan Love.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 14, 2023 at 12:19 am

Everyone's right, until they're wrong.

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PackyCheese500's picture

May 14, 2023 at 11:14 am

I don't know if I agree. I don't know if we will be better this year than last year because we have not solved the problem yet.

Rodgers was not the problem; he was just an aging QB who can't put the entire team on his shoulders anymore because of age. I believe the trade was a good move that netted us some sweet draft capital, and was necessary in order to avoid cap hell in the coming years. That being said, Rodgers was not the main reason that this team wasn't able to succeed last year; Matt LaFleur is.

I do not see domination. I think Jordan Love will absolutely show his amazing potential, and maybe win a few games for us, but I think this team will be held back due to an inept DC and a stale offensive scheme, along with a wimp instead of a true leader as a HC.

Has anyone seen his red-zone playcalling? What about his insistance to always go for it on 4th down? We were one of the worst red zone and 4th down teams this year. I remember in week 1 vs the Vikes, MLF tried to run it up the middle on a 4th and goal from the 1. It was predictable, and the Vikes were all over it.

I do not believe that the Packers will ever be able to win with MLF. Time and time again he has fallen short in the big games (see the 2020 NFCCSG, the 2021 divisional, or 2022 week 18). He has been out-coached in every single game. His keeping Barry for another year will hopefully turn out to be the nail in his coffin; how one could continue to employ such an inept coach is beyond me.

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NickPerry's picture

May 15, 2023 at 05:38 am

"Rodgers was not the problem; he was just an aging QB who can't put the entire team on his shoulders anymore because of age."

I guess we'll find out in a few more months. While I agree with many of your points about MLF , I'm also excited to see what this offense may look like.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

May 16, 2023 at 04:01 am

If Rich Bisaccia replaced both MLF and JB I won't hate that. I'd rather see MLF do well, but if it's true that HC personality spreads throughout the team, we'll always be soft until he's gone. Figure that out this year, may have to make some RB changes next year, by JL10's third year as a starter this team might be a real contender.

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CoachJV's picture

May 13, 2023 at 01:19 pm

The Bears still suck regardless...

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SoCalJim's picture

May 13, 2023 at 01:57 pm

Can you imagine the Bears fans’ despair if J Love starts his career as a starter with a win, in Chicago, after the Packers decades-long ownership of the Bears?

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 13, 2023 at 06:56 pm

Yes, how wonderful would that be? Particularly if Love lights up the scoreboard. LOL!

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 14, 2023 at 12:20 am

Yes. Ive been looking forward to that exact reaction for 3+ years, which is why I'll be attending this game deep in enemy territory. I wanna see the defeated look on their faces. All that optimism crushed in 60 minutes or less.

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Matt's picture

May 13, 2023 at 03:05 pm

Yes, Favre's and Rodgers' tenures were great for the Pack and the rivarly. The record against the Bears was partly on their huge talent, partly on great teams around and partly on Bears' weakness at times. Who is Jordan is then part of the story. It is also important if Bears will finally get done with their rebuild.

Everything is possible, Bears can still suck, we can start sucking, and in 2024 can be different again. I just don't buy the story I read in few places that the Pack are surely going to be on the bottom of the North and the Bears are the favorites. Besides JJ I don't see why Vikings are considered stronger than we are on paper. Surely, the field can verify it in both ways. Lions seem like they have been trading up for years but last year I heard the same and they didn't even get into playoffs. It may happen they are just fun to watch. Bears are loading up, yes. But remember who is under center. If I should choose Fields or Love - I take Love not as a Packer fan. Fields is not a running QB. He is a throwing RB. Bears can repeat over and over again how dominating he is but I don't see him going to be franchise QB with great running but not NFL level throwing. I can rather see that their loaded up team, with young talent around, will be slowed down by subpar QB play and they will start a new QB the next seson or even at some point of 2023. Enough speculation. I just don't see that we are THAT bad as for today. For me the North looks equal with us and Bears being the huge question marks and Lions with the legit marks of constant progress. None are like Chiefs, 49ers, Bills or Eagles.

And come on guys! Do we really need to waste time to consider our potential record against the Bears? Last 30 years are telling me that it should be their problem. We have ours to focus on.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

May 16, 2023 at 04:05 am

Preparation. Our team will have some for the first season in a long time. Hopefully they take the field ready. This season will be full of surprises ...

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

May 13, 2023 at 03:12 pm

"Love is unlikely to match Favre or Rodgers as a Hall of Fame quarterback although the Packers would be happy if he simply becomes a quality NFL starter who can help the team contend for the next decade or more"

Gil, how many people expected Favre or Rodgers to be a hall of fame quarterback before they started a game. Neither one of them looked like world beaters their first year. I have higher expectations for Jordan than contentment to be a quality starter. He has the tools and I expect to see him use them a very high level.

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greengold's picture

May 13, 2023 at 03:44 pm

Great point, Ferrari-driver. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least to see Love eclipse both Favre & Rodgers.

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dobber's picture

May 13, 2023 at 04:17 pm

It would shock the hell out of me, and I hope he can be a quality starter in the league.

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greengold's picture

May 14, 2023 at 05:54 am

That’s how good of a pick I think Jordan Love was. I think he’s far & away a better QB walking through the door at 1265 than either of Favre or Rodgers.

Love’s maturity compared to those two? Please. It’s not even a discussion.

Lombardi Trophies are the measure. MVPs? Superfluous.

A QB’s job is not simply to be a thrower of a football. A QB’s job #1 is to be a leader of men, and not the sole leader at that. One of a small number of leaders on a team. Do we win without Reggie White? Do we win without Charles Woodson?

That is the sole reason why QB is the most important position on any team. Football is a team sport.

The best QBs in the history of the NFL -help- lead their teams to Super Bowl victories. Nothing else matters.

That fact was lost on Rodgers. On Favre too. I don’t think it’s lost on Jordan Love.

Happy to be able to just watch the journey and support this Packers team along the way.

LoveGun

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 14, 2023 at 12:24 am

All that matters are super bowls. If this team, with Love under center, can manage to win multiple super bowls, that would eclipse Favre and Rodgers. Theres no amount of context that can change my mind either because the only point of this game is to win the last game of the year. Nothing else matters.

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greengold's picture

May 14, 2023 at 05:47 am

BRAVO!

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

May 16, 2023 at 04:11 am

GG, it would surprise the world if JL10 (or anybody) can beat AR12's TD-interception ratio, or Favre's iron man durability. W-L record requires neither,a good team does that but not without good coaching. This will be the first season we see MLF with the chance to prepare the team before week 1.

Should be interesting ...

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 13, 2023 at 06:59 pm

I believe as Jordan Love continually stacks success even some of the negative nellies who got their feelings hurt over AR's exit will gradually come around. It is inevitable for even the hardiest!

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

May 16, 2023 at 04:13 am

JL's success should be Gutey's legacy. I can't picture him failing, and would love to see the team enable him to succeed with Jimmy G levels of competence. Anything beyond that is gravy!

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stockholder's picture

May 13, 2023 at 03:25 pm

This Article is actually too soon.
I get the hope. The Rah Rah.
But there isn't one Known gambling place.
That doesn't have the Packers finishing Last.
So can Love beat Bears?
Maybe - if thats all what matters.

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barutanseijin's picture

May 13, 2023 at 04:30 pm

I saw the worst minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through Wisconsin streets at dawn looking for the Departed,
muddleheaded codgers burning for the ancient heavenly connection to their starry hero in the cobwebs of their minds..

What sphinx of FieldTurf and pigskin bashed open their skulls and ate up their brains and imagination?

Rodgers! Ayahusca! Thumbs! Narcissism! Darkness and unobtainable dollars! Cheeseheads screaming under the bleachers! Fanboys sobbing in bars! Old men weeping in the stands!

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TKWorldWide's picture

May 13, 2023 at 09:59 pm

Aren’t those the lyrics to a Rush song?

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marpag1's picture

May 14, 2023 at 05:36 am

Somewhere in Canada, Geddy Lee just puked.

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TKWorldWide's picture

May 14, 2023 at 06:01 am

To say nothing of the oaks and maples.

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barutanseijin's picture

May 14, 2023 at 06:47 am

No clue. Did Rush rip off “Howl” too?

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nagawicka's picture

May 14, 2023 at 10:26 am

+100,000

ahh-woooooooooooo!

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Oppy's picture

May 13, 2023 at 09:49 pm

Yet another acknowledgment from a grown adult that he does not understand what odds makers do for a living.

Vegas doesn't make predictions on outcomes, they set odds to elicit betting.
It is not a prediction of outcomes; it's a prediction of how gamblers are likely to perceive "good action".

That's why the odds change as the bets start being placed.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 14, 2023 at 12:26 am

SH wont listen. He's already placed his bets against the Packers hoping they lose.

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nagawicka's picture

May 14, 2023 at 10:29 am

"what odds makers 'do for a living' "

It's football. But okay let's all spare a moment for the plight of the poor, misunderstood odds makers. Who are not operating in the football sector. Does the midwestern pace of life even have time for a moment of silence that will never be heard or appreciated?

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Oppy's picture

May 14, 2023 at 10:33 am

Well, that's a whole narrative that has nothing to do with my comment.. but I'd be interested to know what nerve got struck here.

There's a fascinating insight into the deepest part of your psyche just waiting to be told. I'm sure of it.

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nagawicka's picture

June 03, 2023 at 11:54 pm

Has everything to do with your comment and no, no one cares what oddsmakers do for a living. It's football.

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Oppy's picture

May 13, 2023 at 04:19 pm

I sure hope so.

The only thing I know for certain is that if Love comes out in his first game of 2023 and looks good- just good- it’s going to make Bears fans really, really uncomfortable.

If Love comes out and puts on a show? It’s gonna absolutely CRUSH bears fans in a way that might almost elicit pity.

Almost, but not quite. The bears still suck.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 14, 2023 at 12:27 am

You had me till the pity part lol. No mercy for da Bears.

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croatpackfan's picture

May 13, 2023 at 04:23 pm

"Love is unlikely to match Favre or Rodgers as a Hall of Fame quarterback although the Packers would be happy if he simply becomes a quality NFL starter who can help the team contend for the next decade or more."

Gil, I would like to know why did you put this statement? Are you sure? And you put "unlikely" by whose analysis?

While I really do not know will or will not Jordan Love have success in NFL, I'm not so brave to put, at the beginning of any player career, remark "unlikely" with any player.

For me is likely that he will be better than Favre and Rodgers. Why? Because in every human field young new people moving rhe borders of possible. Look at athletic records. Every season there is numerous new records in swimming, every new season there is a lot of new discoveries in science, new inventions that only few years ago nobody think it is possible to build something.

Young people are better in everything they do in every field. And that comes constantly moving from one to the next generation.

And that is logical. Young people starts with old knowledge already on their plates, so they just need to move the border further.

For me is more likely that Jordan Love will be better than his predecessors, than vice versa.

Brett Favre and ACR are past. Lets move to the present and future without doubting the quality of the future.

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greengold's picture

May 14, 2023 at 09:59 am

Agree completely, croatpackfan.

Completely.

Jordan love is arguably the more physically gifted, more mature, more cerebral player walking in to start as the Packers QB1 than either of Favre or Rodgers. He’s also the better man of the 3, at the age of 24.

Of course the proving on the field of NFL play remains.

GPG

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nagawicka's picture

May 14, 2023 at 10:32 am

EXCellent point. No Packers player needs to have limitations or labels slapped on them before they've even hit the field. That's bad culture and bad mojo. We just don't know. No one expected squat from Favre so

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

May 16, 2023 at 04:17 am

"Unlikely" applies to ANYBODY. Favre and Rogers are both legendary; what they accomplished was "unlikely."

I don't read into it any more than that. Neither does JL10 have to match either of their accomplishments W-L record is important. Winning 2 SB and he beats them both.

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TOMMY'63's picture

May 13, 2023 at 04:38 pm

We're going to dominate the bears?! What journism? When you've beaten the bears , what have you achieved?! Nothing. I believe the lions will win the division. 50-50 between bears and vikings for 2nd-3rd in division. The other 3 teams in our division are stronger than us. We suck , it was demonstrated last season. This season we will see what players we shall have for the next 2 seasons. We know well that our coaching staff is worth practically nothing, front office is what as is. Hopefully at the end of next season we can get rid of lafleur and gute ,no not possible, we don't have owners .Another 2-3 years of the incompetent leFleur and gutenkunst ' the beautiful art is his surname in german " who will come after?

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NickPerry's picture

May 13, 2023 at 05:31 pm

Wow, two 13-3 seasons, a 13-4 season, and then a 8-9 season and EVERYBODY sucks? Thirty years, THIRTY YEARS of HOF Quarterback play and now the "New Guy" gets his chance to make it forty-five years and we suck? The Packers have had just 5 seasons with a losing record since 1992 and we suck?

Wow, tough crowd! I don't know friend, I think no matter what you have to give at least a year, probably two to see how it all plays out don't you?

I think with these last two drafts and the 23 draft picks Gute picked up to match up with his QB deserve a chance. The Packers just very well may be 7-10 or even 6-11 team. They could also be a 10-7 team quite easily with just AVERAGE QB play. Hell, Rodgers wasn't even average and they went 8-9, AND I think this team is better everywhere except the QB and Kicker position.

"Another 2-3 years of the incompetent leFleur and gutenkunst ' the beautiful art is his surname in german " who will come after?"

OR, in another 2 or 3 years the Packers are in and winning another SB, pretty much like Favre and Rodgers did.

Just saying..

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LeotisHarris's picture

May 13, 2023 at 05:43 pm

Gutekunst translates to "good art", Tommy. I say you should keep your chin up. Smile, I'll bet tomorrow you'll get to make a trivet in Group!

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mbpacker's picture

May 13, 2023 at 05:45 pm

It's a long season a lot can happen- luck, injuries etc. I think the North Division is up for grabs. GPG!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 13, 2023 at 07:06 pm

Love the optimism mbpacker!

I do think the Bears, Lions, and Packers improved over the offseason. The Vikings maybe stays about the same. While I have the Lions with the early lead that whole gambling thing hurt them big time providing opportunity. Long & short of it I think the Packers have a stab at winning the North Division. How earth shattering and mind numbing would that be to the NFL world, and to the AR's die hard apologists? Winning the North and getting into the playoffs regardless of winning a playoff game would be a tremendous feat boding well for 2024 & 2025. My view of the Packers is they certainly have the talent (young talent) to compete, but will the coaches step up and put the young talent in a position to be at their very best?

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

May 16, 2023 at 04:23 am

I separate two things: the yutes developing and playing well, and 2) W-L record. Coaches have a LOT to do with both, and these are very different coach abilities.

This year, if the team plays for 60 minutes every game with 100% effort that's even more important than record IMHO. We haven't been able to say that in forever, let's enjoy it! Next year all three phases should gel better, but some lingering issues keep them from being real contenders. If JL10 takes them to the SB in his third year as a starter that's a helluva start!

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TKWorldWide's picture

May 13, 2023 at 10:02 pm

And it’s a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll.

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greengold's picture

May 14, 2023 at 11:19 am

+10.

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Qoojo's picture

May 13, 2023 at 07:01 pm

Maybe. Even if Love turns into a HOF QB, it's his first year starting, and it's probably going to be an inconsistent season for him. He has some lessons to learn that can only be learned by playing. I expect a mediocre season. GB won 9 games in favre's first mostly starting season with a much better defense, and gb won 6 games in AR's first season.

Both QB's split with chicago, so i am going to say GB/Love will have a split record this year with chicago and gb will win 6-9 games this year.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 13, 2023 at 07:09 pm

During AR's fist season they won a total of 6 games, but that was with a 13 & 3 team that made it to the NFC Championship game the season before. AR as a rookie had a very talented team combined with an extraordinary amount of talent at WR & TE. Jordan Love and the Packers will have more than 6 victories in 2023, but I also believe a better win/loss record than the team had in 2022. We shall see!

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SoCalJim's picture

May 13, 2023 at 08:03 pm

Yes, 9 wins in 2023. Go Pack Go!

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Qoojo's picture

May 14, 2023 at 11:22 am

Since seasons are now 17 games, I guess the range should be 6 - 10 games.

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Rossonero's picture

May 13, 2023 at 09:45 pm

Talent-wise, the Bears and Packers rosters are more even than ever before. Obviously I'm biased and I'd give the Packers an edge, but the Bears now have Moore, Mooney and Claypool, as well as Kmet and Tonyan at TE. If Fields can develop his accuracy and their O-line takes a step, their offense could be potent.

On the flip side, I'm cautiously optimistic about Love. My answer to the question of "will he continue to dominate the Bears?" is, I don't know. I know that's not popular in this day and age of hot takes, but simply put, I haven't seen enough of him. There are going to be growing pains. Young WRs and TEs running the wrong route or missing a block. It's going to happen. Love is going to miss some throws, not see a defender, or force some throws.

I can only hope that Love is more prepared, more mature and more ready than many of these rookie QBs who get thrown to the wolves and the NFL chews up and spits out. Time will tell on that, but I at least want to see one full season of him as the starter.

Defensively, as long as Joe Barry is calling the shots, I don't think it matters how many 1st rounders he has at his disposal. He won't use them right, he'll be slow to adjust, and Love may play well enough to win some games, only for Barry's defense to cave in and cost the Packers at least 2-3 games in 2023. I hope I'm wrong though. No more excuses Mr. Barry!!

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TKWorldWide's picture

May 13, 2023 at 10:04 pm

Cautiously optimistic is a good description.

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The_Baloney_Stops_Here's picture

May 14, 2023 at 12:29 am

Just win, baby.

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TxFred's picture

May 14, 2023 at 08:58 am

At least da bares, were finally smart enough to get out of " Shithole" d/b/a Chicago. Ha ha. GPG!!

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Packerpasty's picture

May 14, 2023 at 10:17 am

As Colin Cowherd said "patience my ass"...Love been here 4 years, ill give him 5 games to get it together...hopefully he's capable right out of the gate, but giving him a whole year? Bullshit...

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Oppy's picture

May 14, 2023 at 10:36 am

I'm extending this olive branch to you in the spirit of mending any fractures within the Green Bay Packers fan base that may have developed recently.

Go forward in peace, my friend.

https://www.ganggreennation.com/

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stockholder's picture

May 14, 2023 at 12:45 pm

Exactly Right. By the end of sept.
Will know what we got.

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Oppy's picture

May 14, 2023 at 03:33 pm

You probably had Kurt Warner pegged from the beginning.

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