Confessions of a Polluted Mindset - OTAs (Overreact To Anything)
The Weekly Packers Brain Drain from Jersey Al.
By JerseyAl
Reports out of OTAs were that the Jordan Love to Matthew Golden connection was on fire yesterday. They are fast developing a special connection. Romeo Doubs called Golden "a stud" I like the sound of all of this.
Kenny Clark confirmed in an interview what most people assumed, that he played through a toe/foot injury for all of the 2024 season after getting hurt in the first game against the Eagles in Brazil. Clark had surgery in January and is just now getting back to doing individual drills with the team. This adds a little context to Clark's disappointing lack of production in 2024 and serves as a warning to us all - we really don't know what level of hurt these players are going through. Especially with the extremely tight-lipped and secretive Packers who would much prefer to never have to say say anything to anyone. Oh, and did I mention that Clark suffered the injury on a "tush push?" No surprise the Packers coaches don't like the tush push, is it?:
Lukas Van Ness was spotted at OTAs taking some snaps as an interior pass rusher. Almost identical in size and height to Za'Darius Smith, perhaps the Packers may try to recapture some of the success Smith had rushing in between the tackles. There isn't much I've seen from LVN so far that gives me confidence this could work, but he has the power and quickness for the job and LaFleur says LVN has come in with a higher level of confidence. An emphasis from new DL coach Demarcus Covington has been getting off the ball faster, and that is something LVN has the ability to do, so maybe LVN will surprise me.
So Jayden Reed has been working with a JUGS machine every day this season in an attempt to eliminate the issue he had with drops (10 last season). Do they have Wicks (who had a drop in 11v11s on Tuesday) doing the same thing? Asking for a friend...
(Not OTA Related): There was a funny article in yesterdays Wall Street Journal (funny to this polluted mind, anyway) titled "So you took ayahuasca. The therapist will see you now." Evidently, there is now a cadre of licensed psychologists in the Silicon Valley area who specialize in "psychedelic integration." They counsel techies looking to ayahuasca and other psychedelics to deal with the pressure and stress of their jobs. The therapists help them evaluate what they experienced on these "trips" and help them navigate their "integration" back into the real world. There is only mention of helping Silicon Valley technical workers, but why couldn't this also apply to people in other walks of life, maybe even NFL quarterbacks? Also, is there some branch of Psychology that deals with polluted mindsets? Important questions...
MarShawn Lloyd stepped onto the field, ran some drills and did not get hurt. Don't believe me? Some evidence:
#Packers RB MarShawn Lloyd participating in today’s OTAs. pic.twitter.com/TOinr76KWb
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) June 3, 2025
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Comments (74)
mrtundra
June 04, 2025 at 07:01 am
Can't wait to see both Lloyd and Golden, on the field.
TKWorldWide
June 04, 2025 at 07:44 am
I’ll see your “on” and raise it to “near.”
Tundraboy
June 04, 2025 at 10:40 am
We could use another addition of youth with talent and swagger, Looking forward to seeing them back it up. Also looking forward to setting things right again with our division friends this year.
TKWorldWide
June 04, 2025 at 12:48 pm
Put me down for one “hells yeah!”
T7Steve
June 04, 2025 at 07:04 am
Thanks, Al. Always enjoy my Wednesday morning coffee pollution.
I've tried cautioning the people that were down on Kenny Clark about his toe. Can't imagine how hard that would be to play through.
I hope the JUGS works and is mandatory if it does. Learned from an early age to never drop the jug of cider.
GregC
June 04, 2025 at 07:13 am
I can attest that you mentioned Kenny Clark's toe many times last season!
Nagging injuries also affected Jordan Love and Jayden Reed. This usually happens to a few players per season, but you don't always know about it till later, if ever.
LLCHESTY
June 04, 2025 at 12:33 pm
The issue with his toe became common knowledge around the bye week when they said the time off would help him recover from the injury. Have to wonder whether holding him out vs the Bears after the bye would've helped even more. He had no stats in that game BTW.
Another thing that Clark talked about yesterday was having DL players over to his house for film study on Fridays and Saturdays this off-season. I think he's most likely gone after this season but they will likely miss his leadership.
Gman1976
June 05, 2025 at 06:16 pm
I wonder if it occurred to management that Clark and Love playing hurt may be one of the big reasons we had such a poor record against division teams. Would their replacements give us just enough of an edge to win?
Guam
June 04, 2025 at 07:05 am
Good information on Clark. He will need a big rebound season in 2025 to stay on the team. As Alexander is finding out you can't have a big contract and not play to its level. It's a harsh business, but the cap requires it. At least Clark played through his injury and tried.
Nixon retracted his "I won't be returning kicks" statement yesterday and said he will do anything the team needs including returning kick offs. He said he should have kept his original statement to himself as he wants to be a team guy first. Refreshing attitude and I hope some other players (Alexander) are listening.
GregC
June 04, 2025 at 07:20 am
Good to hear that Nixon said that. It left a sour taste at the end of last season when he said he no longer wanted to return kicks.
I don't really care who returns kicks. It's a boring play. There will be more returns this year, though, with touchbacks moved from the 30 yard-line to the 35. Kickers will have more incentive to keep the ball in play.
Oppy
June 04, 2025 at 05:41 pm
Does Nixon have a refreshing attitude.. or did Nixon's attitude get 'refreshed'?
NickPerry
June 04, 2025 at 07:06 am
Can't wait to watch year two of Hafleys defense. Hopefully we can keep Hafley in GB until we win our 14th World Championship. I thought Clark would have been outstanding in a 4-3 and think he will be this year. As far as LVN the dude just needs to produce. I would hope with his quickness and strength he could do some damage inside. Besides, My breakout guy on the Defense this season is Brenton Cox Jr. Now with a good D-Line coach on the staff, hopefully EVERYONE on the D-Line jumps!
I really like MarShawn Lloyd. He just had some bad luck last season but I think he'll claim that number 2 RB spot in no time and MLF starts finding and looking for ways to get him the ball. I watched him quite a bit while he was at USC. The dude has a chance to be great. Especially with the O-Line the Packers are building!
Two years ago Reed and Wicks were working out together. Lets hope they both have Jug machines and have been using them since January!
Guam
June 04, 2025 at 08:07 am
It was fun to watch a good Packer's defense last year - it had been awhile since we had one. I expect more growth from the defense this year due to both time in the same scheme and experience gained by the younger players last year. And like you I am hoping for great things from Cox. He was good at the end of last year and I am hoping for more this year. What a UDFA find by Gute!
NickPerry
June 04, 2025 at 11:52 am
A great find by Gute AND he's managed to stay out of trouble. He was a higher recruit coming out of HS. He was just a knucklehead in College. He got kicked off two teams, that's why he was an UDFA. Yes, LVN being a hit would have been awesome but at least we have Cox.
Last thing...The Packers have a shit-ton of weapons. I was thinking about that on my way to the office this morning. Lloyd is back and healthy. They added Golden AND Williams who I think will be fun to watch. Plus Reed, Kraft, Musgrave, Wicks, and Doubs at least today, that's A LOT for any defense.
Lets Go!!!
Tundraboy
June 04, 2025 at 02:23 pm
It's only June but you have me ready for the Detroit game already!
NickPerry
June 04, 2025 at 02:41 pm
I KNOW RIGHT!
croatpackfan
June 05, 2025 at 03:45 am
Cox was predicted as late 1st round pick in that draft, but because he was kick out from, I believe Florida University regarding some issues with one or more teammates, he was considered toxic, so all the teams were just passing by and did not draft him.
That kick out was the second one, but I do not remember from which Uni he was kicked out before.
I was hoping that Packers will sign him as UDFA and I was/am glad they did it!
LambeauPlain
June 04, 2025 at 01:46 pm
Doubs has always been on the Jugs Machine since his rookie season. Love stated he's taking passes from it before and after practice and all during the offseason. That's why I believe his drops, as well as Reed's, were more an anomaly.
Wicks drops are more chronic. His last four football seasons in college and for the Packers had few drops, many drops, few drops, many drops. Maybe the trend will be his friend and few drops for this season. His route running and separation ability is special...if he can hang onto the ball, he's an excellent WR.
Starrbrite
June 05, 2025 at 09:11 am
Lloyd is the he dude I’m most excited about (too). I believe he will be lightning in a bottle.
Cheezehead72
June 04, 2025 at 07:46 am
Good article and yes I am late reading it. I got caught up in work.
My boss thinks that I am on psychedelics. In actuality I do not worry. I do not remember the last time I worried.
Possibly the improvement that will help this team the most is the receivers catching the ball. I would also put right up there is more pressure from the front four.
T7Steve
June 04, 2025 at 08:12 am
And with the improved (on paper still) O-line maybe there will be less opportunities needed for those passes.
Maybe Al will give us his thoughts on how the new O-line looks to shape up. He's the O-line expert here.
Packer_Fan
June 04, 2025 at 08:11 am
Now we know why Clark did not excel last year. Glad to know this. Let's see if they can rush the passer better.
What's happening with Alexander. Looks like both sides are playing hard ball.
I remember back in the 90's watching Sterling Sharpe prepare before games. No JUG machine, just catching pass after pass in close range. Glad that Reed is doing this. And yes, get Wicks to do the same. Nothing more frustrating than dropping a 3rd down pass to stop a drive. Yikes
Dragon5
June 04, 2025 at 08:25 am
Thank you for raising the 'brow to LVN positional change Al. While one can interpret something out of nothing, let's hope it's a positive change in adaptability and versatility. I mentioned this hail mary possibility prior to the draft...
"There is enough depth in the '25 DL class to address in later rounds. If we find our DL depth lacking mid season and VanEss still isn't productive as an edge rusher...can we not move him inside where he did time there at Iowa?"
NFLfan
June 04, 2025 at 08:26 am
Big money invested in psychedelics. 'Beware of unearned wisdom'-Carl Jung.
GregC
June 04, 2025 at 08:29 am
Good to hear Romeo Doubs complimenting Matthew Golden. They will be competing against each other for playing time this year, and Golden could contribute to Doubs not being re-signed after this season. Jayden Reed has been very positive about Golden too.
Leatherhead
June 04, 2025 at 09:29 am
Unless we release Doubs and save the $$3.4M, and use the roster spot on a younger, healthier guy. Or a FA. There are competent, veteran WRs without a team yet who would cost a fraction of $3.4M, and who are less likely to sustain a career ending concussion.
Reed, Wicks, Golden, Williams.....we still have Hardman, Heath, Melton and several other guys who could round out the roster. You could keep Melton AND Heath AND Hardman for $3.4M.
I think Doubs is a really good WR, but I'd be unwilling to make plans involving this guy. Not this year, not the future. We got three good seasons out of a Day 3 pick and it's time to focus on the next three years.
GregC
June 04, 2025 at 09:50 am
A couple days ago, someone here mentioned that Doubs' second concussion was likely related to the first one. We don't know this for sure, but the Packers have a thorough knowledge of his medical status. He may not be at high risk for concussion.
At any rate, he is our most experienced WR, and as a former fourth round pick, he's very cheap. $3.4 million is not a lot of money for an experienced and more-than-solid NFL receiver. Lack of experience in the WR room has been a bit of an issue in recent years, so I would not be in favor of cutting the only WR besides Hardman who has been in the league for three or more years.
Oh by the way, who are the competent veteran WRs who could be signed for less than $3.4 million? I haven't heard of any. Are they as good as Doubs? I like that Doubs has played for the Packers and works out with Jordan Love in the off-season.
Leatherhead
June 04, 2025 at 10:14 am
I'm not a doctor, although I've played doctor. I saw Doubs, with the special helmet, take a not particularly hard hit and leave the Eagles game with a concussion. He was concussed on 11/24 and missed four games, then had another one in the playoffs. To me, this is a red flag, just like Nick Collins'injury, or Sam Shield's injury. To me, this is a risk that I don't think we need to take.
Last year, we didn't have any WRs who'd been in the league for three or more years. Why is that a criteria now?
$3.4 M is not a lot of money for a good, experienced WR. As I pointed out, we could sign Melton, Heath, and Hardman for $3.4M combined.
Go to www.spotrac.com, look at the FA WRs who are still available. There's about 20 FA WRs available yet. I'm not perspicacious enough to know which of those guys would be the best bet, but I do know that
Doubs caught 150 balls in three years. That's not irreplaceable. I would think that if we keep 6 WRs on the 53 man squad, and have 5 active on gameday,, then Reed, Wicks, Golden and Williams are mortal locks. At some point, Watson returns. Why do we need Doubs? We want to get one more season out of him before he leaves in FA? We're willing keep Doubs instead of a younger, healthier guy who might be around for a couple of years?
IMO, that's thinking with your heart instead of your head. The smart move for the Packers is to replace Doubs now, not a year from now, and definitely not in the middle of the season, which is a real possibility for him. Replace him with a younger, healthier guy who might be around for a few years.
GregC
June 04, 2025 at 10:53 am
I'm not saying it's any kind of criteria to have a receiver who's been in the league for three or more years. I just think it's good to have some experience. I was fine with the youth of the WR corps going into last season. I turned out to be wrong about that. The team cycled too quickly through too many WRs, and I think it bit them in the ass a little. I don't think it's wise to cycle through players so fast that you won't even let a good one play out his four-year contract. They should hang onto Doubs as long as his medicals are not too concerning. Neither one of us knows what the story is there.
LLCHESTY
June 04, 2025 at 12:41 pm
If the rookies show out at TC then maybe look at trading him. If they can't trade him keep him and get a comp pick for him if he stays healthy. Missing out on a comp pick, even a 7th rounder, just because is silly. But that's LH.
Leatherhead
June 04, 2025 at 01:48 pm
They can't trade him. Nobody will give anything for a guy with his history and a $3.4M salary. Is a 7th round comp pick worth $3.4M?. That's Chesty....a guy who just does not understand math. Do I have to explain roster limits, too?
Reed, Wicks, Golden, Williams. Mortal locks. Watson when he returns. We have Melton and Heath and Hardman and several others who are younger, cheaper, and healthier. Wouldn't it be better to carry one of them on the roster instead?
LambeauPlain
June 04, 2025 at 02:27 pm
Doubs, Wicks, and Reed are on top of the depth chart at WR and Slot and you want to cut Doubs and replace him with Melton, Heath, or Hardman?
Great strategy as long as those guys are better. They aren't...not even close to Doubs. The odds are higher Doubs will be the most productive WR on the Packers this season than he will be cut to save just $3.4 M. I don't understand your line of thinking on this at all.
Leatherhead
June 04, 2025 at 03:52 pm
It's a great strategy the moment Doubs takes another knock to the head.
We don't need him, or the risk. Reed, Wicks, Golden, Williams. Those are the big four. If Hardman or Melton or Heath is returning kicks, then he's probably #5 and active on gameday. The #6 guy, whoever it is, is a practice squad guy.
And around midpoint of the season, we're going to be adding Watson to the 53 man roster, and then the 45.
We don't need him. I've really enjoyed having him on the team for the last 3 years, but I can't imagine signing him to another contract. So, keep him for $3.4M and hope for the best, healthwise, or save the money and use the roster spot for somebody who is going to be around for a few years.
Oppy
June 04, 2025 at 05:45 pm
Doubs moves the sticks.
I think you are underestimating him.
He works on the drops, he's a great asset to the team.
At least as of right this very moment, he's superior to Wicks, Williams, and while not as splashy, makes more 'important' catches than Reed.
Oppy
June 04, 2025 at 05:46 pm
Let me add a quick caveat- I have no idea what's going to shake out once the contracts start expiring. Lots of decisions to be made.
LeotisHarris
June 04, 2025 at 08:42 am
Turf toe just helped send Frank Ragnow into retirement after seven NFL seasons. It took out Jack Lambert, too. Kenny Clark is one tough MF.
72 year-old dude up in Rice Lake was sentenced after being awarded with his 17th OWI. No word on a reintegration plan.
crayzpackfan
June 04, 2025 at 08:51 am
Were those OWI's accumulated over time or did he just have a really bad week?
Bitternotsour
June 04, 2025 at 10:32 am
a question that can only be legitimately asked in Wisconsin
LLCHESTY
June 04, 2025 at 12:49 pm
It would be interesting to see how many years those were accumulated over. Before the early 1980s they dropped off your record after two years so he's old enough to have more they didn't count.
Oppy
June 04, 2025 at 05:47 pm
Come a certain point, I truly believe repeat OWI's need to be prosecuted as, literally, Attempted Murder.
jurp
June 05, 2025 at 05:13 pm
After your 2nd OWI, I'd be fine with one year in prison for each OWI. So - third OWI? Three years in prison.
Oppy
June 06, 2025 at 11:07 am
Would you look at that.
2 downvotes = two people out there that are low life habitual drunk drivers who may one day aspire to murdering someone with their poorly controlled vehicles.
Leatherhead
June 04, 2025 at 09:21 am
I didn't think Kenny Clark had just gotten bad all of a sudden.
"Clark is just a guy now". I read stuff like that last year, even though the defensive line, under a new coordinator, was playing well. We were giving up fewer yards on the ground, we were giving up fewer points, but somehow we achieved this miracle with a bunch of guys, including Clark, who weren't very good.
I'm interested in finding out who replaces Slaton in the run-plugging front. I think Nazr Stackhouse could be the UDFA that makes the team this year. Nothing stops the run like a huge dude who makes a pile where the hole is supposed to be.
GregC
June 04, 2025 at 09:38 am
Yeah, I've been reluctant to criticize any of the defensive players too much, considering how well the defense played last year. Especially against the run. If players like Clark and Van Ness graded out so poorly against the run on PFF, why was the defense something like 3rd overall in yards allowed per rushing attempt? I didn't notice either of those players, or any others for that matter, being exploited by opponents. It was good team defense with no glaring weaknesses. The big thing they need to do is play better against the Lions and Vikings.
TXCHEESE
June 04, 2025 at 09:33 am
I've thought for a long time now, Moving LVN to the inside on obvious passing downs would allow him to use his quickness and strength to get a push up the middle. Makes all the sense in the world.
Saw where Jim Marshall died. RIP sir! Man started 270 consecutive games as a DL. I want whatever he was having. What a freakin stud! Can't believe he's not in the hall of fame with his brethren.
LLCHESTY
June 04, 2025 at 12:58 pm
Marshall only made All-Pro once(2nd team) and two Pro Bowls. Longevity should get you some consideration but shouldn't be the only criteria.
Leatherhead
June 04, 2025 at 01:50 pm
I hope Marshall didn't go the wrong way.
jurp
June 05, 2025 at 05:15 pm
One of the funnier NFL videos I've ever seen. :)
Ferrari-Driver
June 04, 2025 at 10:38 am
I can appreciate Kenny Clark trying to play football on an injured foot. I got hit with "Gout" which I never heard of before and I am walking around like the Frankenstein Monster. I had no idea a big toe could hurt that much. It reminded me of the old "Hip Pointers" most of us used to get when we played football as kids. I hope we will see the Kenny Clark of old on the field this year.
Starrbrite
June 05, 2025 at 09:23 am
Ferrari—I’ve never had gout, but my wife and other friends have; they all said it was extremely painful.
My affliction has been plantar fasciitis—geez!!…and “Frankenstein walk” is a proper description.
Anyway, I hope you can ditch the gout.
Vachio
June 04, 2025 at 11:00 am
If memory serves, LVN did a lot of rushing from the inside while in college and was very good at it.
stockholder
June 04, 2025 at 11:08 am
Al- there isn't anybody that couldn't get traded on that list.
Wrs- Play the rookies. Dobbs is a HEADCASE.
And Reed's agent is more of a threat.
Tinkering with VanEss inside just confirmed he's a bust.
(Moving DL around has always been the problem)
Example Datone Jones , Nick Perry
Everyone thought Clark hurt his back. Even stem cell rumors.
Now he's pulling a foot job on us.
And Loyd actually is surprising.
Notice the wrap on the left leg?
Oppy
June 05, 2025 at 01:53 pm
Hey man.. we're heading into year 3.
It's "Van_Ness", not "VanEss"
NFLfan
June 04, 2025 at 11:09 am
It was my understanding Kenny primarily underwent surgery for a bunion removal and bone spurs. Those conditions occur over time, not in one season.
The majority of fractured toes do not require surgery-splinting, elevation, rest, ice, etc.
T7Steve
June 04, 2025 at 12:20 pm
Bunions aren't anything to sneeze at. Even my grandmother lost a step while going through one.
Alberta_Packer
June 04, 2025 at 01:04 pm
Re: (Not OTA Related).
There is nothing new about "psychedelic integration." Back in the 60s - Timothy Leary a prominent figure in the psychedelic experimentation field was deeply involved with LSD - believing the drug held potential for therapeutic use and spiritual exploration. Ultimately its adverse effects led to its legal restrictions and a shift in scientific focus.
Ayahuasca is just LSD 2.0 - largely giving the illusion of profound therapy. However it seems to be just an excuse to rationalize the imbibing of a psychoactive drink. Especially for individuals who can't or won't come to terms with their inner most truths and experiences. For example Silicon Valley tech-bros and one NFL QB.
Alternatively - there are a multitude of psychology and psychotherapy models that offers more profound and sustainable outcomes for an individual. However each requires a person to be fully present - both in mind and body.
GregC
June 04, 2025 at 01:37 pm
I read Sting's memoir about a year ago, and it begins with a long account of him taking this drug in South America. He portrays it as a physically unpleasant experience, but he thought it was worthwhile for discovering truths about oneself. It sounded like just a bad idea to me.
Alberta_Packer
June 04, 2025 at 02:32 pm
What I can say for certain GC - is that an unpleasant drug is not necessary for discovering one's truths. Just a competent Psychologist or Psychotherapist and a commitment to do the personal therapy - which can be a long and difficult process. However many individuals seek shortcuts and instantaneous results. So enter the psychedellics as a form of faux therapy.
Otherwise - I have long had an interest in the use of drugs relative to the creative prime(s) of rock stars and other artists - fnding that often there is a correlation - although not sustainable over the long-term. Now wondering about Sting.
barutanseijin
June 04, 2025 at 03:18 pm
The problem with delving into the correlation between Sting’s career peak (his silent role the movie Quadrophenia) and his drug use is that you would have to listen to his output.
Alberta_Packer
June 04, 2025 at 03:47 pm
There seems to have been ages and stages to Sting's career - which also included his 'health and fitness years' - that I'm thinking may have also contributed to his output.
Speaking of output - I remember in a Sting interview - that in his younger years he often listened to and studied J.S. Bach. Perhaps one of the greatest composers of output of all times.
GregC
June 04, 2025 at 04:28 pm
FYI: The ayahuasca thing happened long after what I would consider to be Sting's creative peak. I'm thinking early 2000s.
Alberta_Packer
June 04, 2025 at 05:00 pm
In whatever era after the 60s - there never seemed to be a lack of psychedelics. For me - in my teens and twenties - magic mushrooms, mescaline and good ole cannabis where aplenty. Also peyote seems to have been around forever.
Pizzadoc
June 04, 2025 at 08:07 pm
I haven’t done psychedelics, but remain open to their potential, with or without guided therapy or integration.
Too many people have spoken of their help and promise. See: Sam Harris, serious person.
WestCoastPackerBacker
June 04, 2025 at 02:07 pm
Way to provide some snark towards Lloyd for his difficulties last season. Far as I can tell, none of those issues were his fault.
Kenny Clark, playing with a bum toe and Lucas Van Ness playing with a broken thumb in a position that relies on hands. Hmmmm , maybe fans could chill a bit with their negativity towards those guys. Probably a pipe dream though. The disdain towards players that get hurt is heavy and worse the higher the draft spot. Or, god forbid they play at the top of their game and get a big contract. They better never get hurt again. You know, even though that’s the nature of the league.
LambeauPlain
June 04, 2025 at 02:07 pm
If LVN can be effective inside, and I believe he can, it gives Covington and Haf more rotation options to attack a given opponent in a given week.
I don't view LVN as a bust as some here do...he's a good football player...and still very young. He was just over drafted a bit.
I do see Cox, Jr taking his spot on the depth chart. And Sorrell getting significant snaps too. Oliver will turn some heads.
LVN has the size and strength and speed to cause problems from the inside...but he's still going to need more than a bull rush to succeed. I think Covington will unlock that potential.
Starrbrite
June 05, 2025 at 02:48 pm
I’m excited about Sorrell.
NFLfan
June 04, 2025 at 06:04 pm
We will only need to wait 3 more months to look @ the reality of the situation.
NFLfan
June 04, 2025 at 06:10 pm
Never a good idea to take unregulated doses of DMT (active ingredient in Ayahuasca). There are many, esp. those w/psych histories who have experienced psychotic breaks and there are no ER's in the jungle, no psychiatrists, no ambulances. I always thought Rodgers was reckless, esp. while living on someone else's dime.
Pizzadoc
June 04, 2025 at 08:12 pm
That’s fair. That’s why drugs should be legal and regulated, at least psychedelics. I have a hard time making a case for the big 3 life runners: Meth, Opiates & Cocaine. Some things seem to take over lives like a demon.
For that matter, alcohol and cigs cause way more damage, lol.
lpirlot
June 04, 2025 at 08:08 pm
The problem with dropped balls can be solved with "Catch, THEN run."
Major Snafu
June 04, 2025 at 09:46 pm
My two cents Al says it's not the hands it's the mental focus. Rcvr's have more then one job: know the play, the route, run the route, look for the ball and catch it.Some rcrs, this is asking your pea brain to do too much.
Reed had one good year at MSU and it wasn't his last year. So why did they think he was a find. He lacked consistently in college, went missing in games. Nothing has changed.
Leatherhead
June 05, 2025 at 10:55 am
This is what Reed did last year:
He caught 55 passes in 75 targets in 17 games. He also got some yardage on the ground and finished with over 1000 yards of offense and 7 TDs from scrimmage, on 75 touches.
IMO, that's not a bad season. I certainly think there's a higher ceiling. but I think the Packers passing game is going to be an ensemble production and nobody is going to get over 100 targets.
I can't explain why Reed kind of disappeared at the end of the season. It happened. All in all, I think Reed is a solid piece of an ensemble cast.
croatpackfan
June 05, 2025 at 03:49 am
"The therapists help them evaluate what they experienced on these "trips" and help them navigate their "integration" back into the real world."
I wonder if AR (FPQB) was visiting that therapist, because it looks like AR has some problems with "integration" back into the real world football society...
Btw I wish AR all the best in retirement and I really appreciate all the joy during his tenure under Mike McCarthy he brought to Packers Nation!
greengold
June 06, 2025 at 04:56 am
"Polluted," to the core. As soon as a quality ayahuasca breakfast cereal is developed, Al, I'm sending you a box.
Thanks for the Clark info. Explains a lot. Looking forward to seeing the Golden Love Connection light it up. Cheers.