Confessions of a Polluted Mindset - Just Talking in General (Managers)
The Weekly Packers Brain Drain from Jersey Al.
By JerseyAl
Yes, it's Super Bowl week and the Packers are not involved. Or are they? Certainly, you're being inundated this week with articles about how two former members of the Packers scouting department are now the GMs of the two teams playing in Sunday's Super Bowl. Seattle's John Schneider, having worked under and been mentored by Ron Wolf, and Eliot Wolf, son of that very same Ron Wolf. Schenider has been GM of the Seahawks for fifteen years. Wolf has been with the Patriot's for six seasons, two as a consultant, two as Director of Scouting and two as the Executive Vice President of player personnel and de facto general manager.
The record of both of these men perfectly display the life of the GM in the National Football League - hits and misses, successes and failures, boom times and disappointing stretches. I try to keep this in mind when evaluating the success and failure of teams while under the guidance of the same general manager. Schneider reveled in the success of the "Legion of Boom years with the Seahawks and then had to endure the falling apart of that team, resulting in fading success. He then realized he had to make some bold moves to, in effect, start over. Things like trading Russell Wilson and Derrick Metcalf and putting faith in Sam Darnold that many other teams (such as the Vikings) were not willing to do. But most importantly, he had to get back to hitting on his draft picks and boy, he sure did.
Wolf was thrown into the fire, starting his stint in the top job with a team coming off a Bill Belichick-led 4-13 season, which would be his last. The Patriots were starting over with Wolf taking Belichick's de facto GM spot and Jerod Mayo as the new coach. Wolf's first draft class would have been deemed a disaster if not for one thing - using their #3 first round pick on Drake Maye. That's not too dissimilar from the Packers' 2020 draft, which produced Jordan Love and little else (although the Maye choice at pick #3 was a much easier decision than the one Gutekunst had to make). When it comes to the Patriots' 2025 draft, Wolf is bathed in glory. Seven of their picks have contributed significant snaps this season and along with some free agent acquisitions and the hiring of Mike Vrabel, helped this team finish 14-3 and make it to the Super Bowl.
Both of these GMs have experienced the highs and lows mentioned before. With Brian Gutekunst at the helm for the Packers, they have avoided the lows. The team is in contention every year and their depth was seriously tested this year with the injuries to some of their most impactful players. Throwing out his first season on the job (the ugly year Mike McCarthy was fired), they have made the playoffs five out of seven years with only one barely sub-.500 season (8-9). I am convinced that if the Packers had Parsons, Kraft, Tom, Jenkins and others down the stretch, the Packers would not have faded the way they did this season.
But to be perfectly fair, during Gutey's tenure, the Packers have not hit the highs that Schneider and now even Wolf, have hit. They just haven't made it to the Super Bowl, and there is no escaping that fact, removing all possible excuses from the equation. (Yes, I know I'm triggering Stockholder as well as the cadre of fans who contend the Packers don't really care about making it to the Super Bowl).
Last week, I wrote about how this offseason could define Gutekunst's legacy as the Packers' GM. Free agents will leave and some starters will be cap casualties. Russ Ball's help will be desperately needed to find money for extensions and some free agent help. But more important than all of that, Gutekunst has to have a draft year like Schneider and Wolf did, while working without a first round pick (I'm not complaining about that - Parsons is worth it). He needs to hit on picks that are more ready to play now, not players who could project to having higher ceilings with a few years of development. Gutekunst does too much of that, in my opinion, and while are in this prime Love-Parsons window it's not the right approach. Gutey has to show his own sense of "urgency" when drafting players this year. If he's not sure how, he could always study what his former Packers colleagues have done recently.
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Comments (94)
Savage57
February 04, 2026 at 06:11 am
Less attention to RAS scores, upside, and 'ceilings', more attention to talent, heart and pro readiness, please.
Or, more plainly, 'draft and contribute' as opposed to 'draft and depart', as we'll likely see with Mssr.s, Doubs, Walker x 2, and Enegbare.
Institutional aversion to play your picks means you're only getting two years production from your value players on their first contract. Your return on investment is reduced by half before you even start.
TKWorldWide
February 04, 2026 at 07:04 am
Last paragraph: Yes! Look at Rashan Gary. Was a high RAS guy who didn’t actually DO much in college. Picked at #12 IIRC. Played sparingly behind the Smith brothers. Then, after his apprenticeship, plays pretty well and gets the big money. Tears his ACL. Has never been the same player since? This past season, opposite Micah, early on he really looked to be capitalizing on his opportunities. After that he dang near completely disappeared. The “low snap guy” appeared to loaf on several occasions, despite frequently resting on the sidelines. Now it’s near certain he’ll be released.
Some first rounders are complete and total busts, but I’d say Gary’s career is the next worst possible scenario.
This past season, Shemar Stewart was widely believed to be a Gutey type player. At this point he is considered the worst of all 32 first rounders. So glad it was another team who took this high RAS project! Look at Cincy: they are in “win now” mode, they have Burrow. They badly need defense, and in particular, an edge rusher opposite Hendrickson. Too bad for them!
KenEllis
February 04, 2026 at 11:17 am
Well stated.
Only correction is Gary got his big money AFTER he tore his ACL.
So, after mostly sitting for 2 seasons,GB got 1.5 years of pre-injury Gary, then paid him, and 3 more seasons of overpaid Gary.
TKWorldWide
February 04, 2026 at 12:42 pm
Okay! Thank you!
Since'75
February 04, 2026 at 05:08 pm
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Since'75
February 04, 2026 at 05:09 pm
^ALL THAT!!^
Tundraboy
February 05, 2026 at 11:37 pm
"Institutional aversion to play your picks means you're only getting two years production from your value players on their first contract. Your return on investment is reduced by half before you even start."
Couldn't agree more. Endless lag times before a draft pick sees live NFL action, always waiting until the last few games to see the field, for years on end. Slow motion draft and development.
Real Talk Ryan
February 04, 2026 at 06:17 am
I don't think the Gutey and Wolf comparison gets talked about enough. I thought we should've hired Wolf 8 years ago. It seemed like such a natural progression but obviously the Packers didn't think so. Here we are to reap the rewards of that decision.
You touched on hitting on draft picks, which I entirely agree with. We definitely need to do that. But what we also need to do is stop trying to fit square pegs in round holes with our players. Moving an All-Pro guard to center, having Doubs return punts, playing Morgan at every position but the one he was drafted for, playing Hobbs at outside corner when he's a better slot. The infatuation the Packers have with making players as versatile as possible seems to stunt the growth of those players. Draft the best possible players and play them at their best positions instead of moving them all over the field.
GregC
February 04, 2026 at 07:19 am
"I thought we should've hired Wolf 8 years ago. It seemed like such a natural progression but obviously the Packers didn't think so. Here we are to reap the rewards of that decision."
Until this year, Wolf wasn't looking so good. He had two years of futility with the Browns, then he moved over to the Patriots, who were one of the worst teams in the league in 2023 and 2024. Shows how fast things change in the NFL.
Since'75
February 04, 2026 at 05:11 pm
At least for Wolf, it changed.
mrtundra
February 04, 2026 at 07:50 am
The "versatility of the OL" was a sore point for me. Watching Morgan flounder, at every position, except LT, which he rarely, or barely, got to play. If Rasheed Walker is gone, this year, will Morgan be ready to play LT? I'm not so sure. Not using Golden on deep routes, with Watson on the other side, was a puzzler, as well. Seeing him, Reed and Watson run the end around plays, seems like a waste of their talents.
dobber
February 04, 2026 at 08:06 am
Bottom line is that there HAS to be some versatility in some players for the game day 48. You can't have 10 OL active on game day with each dedicated to one position on the OL. Most teams only have 8 active, which means at least two of those 8 have to play multiple spots. Nobody seems to mind that Zach Tom can play every position on the OL and played several as a rookie before settling in at RT, nor did they seem to mind that Elgton Jenkins was playing all over the place up to blowing his knee. Bottom line is that your reserve player at any of those positions is likely a noticeable step down from your starter.
Once the Packers' staff decided that Walker was their LT, they had to look at their other OL and ask who their better players were, and who could adapt to those other spots to make the game day roster work. When a hole opened, Morgan was that next guy...RG, LG, RT. Essentially it seems we're saying that we're unhappy because Walker didn't get hurt. Based on how he played last summer and based on scouting reports, I'm not worried about a drop-off from Walker's level at LT next fall with Morgan, but that's not a terribly high bar, either. We need that position to trend upward.
In the end, our beef is likely more about the lack of quality depth on the OL as much as anything else.
"Not using Golden on deep routes, with Watson on the other side, was a puzzler, as well. Seeing him, Reed and Watson run the end around plays, seems like a waste of their talents."
I don't agree. If you have an offense with a fair amount of pre-snap motion, you make it harder for the defense if they have to guess whether that motion guy is going to take a shovel pass or handoff. If you never give 0, 9, or 11 the ball on those, the defense isn't going to pay any attention to them in motion. In the long run, Golden was the healthiest of the 3, and the healthiest guy in the WR room all season. I'm not giving Watson a lot of those handoffs in traffic with a newly rebuilt knee or Reed coming off a collarbone. Golden had 10 runs, Reed 3, and Watson 1 in 2025...less than one per game between the three. Savion Williams had 11 and Melton had 5.
Thegreatreynoldo
February 05, 2026 at 02:26 am
I gave you a thumbs up because it is plain as day that offensive line players - at least some of them - have to be able to play multiple positions. I have some problems, though, with Gute's comments.
This is a coaching staff that did not give Belton a single rep at guard during training camp. [To be fair, I will mention that there were at least 8 closed practice sessions, but media was present at some of those.] "Wants OL to be versatile more than anything. “Doesn’t really care” if guys think they’re better at certain spots." No shit, sherlock.
"Admitted that Jordan Morgan “did enough to win” the left tackle job in training camp, but then injuries forced them to go a different route." Not in game 1. Banks went down for game 2 so Morgan played LG early when he was not rotating at RG. This is interesting but it sounds like a GM touting his drafting prowess. Morgan did look better at LT during preseason. Injuries were a problem that forced the Packers hand at times and it does look like Morgan can play in the NFL. I remember people wondering whether LG was not Morgan's best position.
I think Rasheed > Morgan was a coaching decision. Butkus may have thought that his seat was hot, but Steno and LaFleur, despite media hype, knew they were safe. I suppose getting a high compensatory pick may also have been a consideration.
I see some evidence of silos. It sounds like Gute is not fully on board with the coaches. That said, confirmation bias is an issue for me since I have hated this new hierarchical structure since Murphy instituted it.
I remember watching tape of Banks after GB signed him. I wrote that Banks cannot pull at all and lacks lateral agility. Reach blocks are a problem for him. It is interesting that the OTs are very athletic and the interior offensive linemen are wannabe maulers. See how that combination works out.
On another topic, Savion Williams is a WR in name only. I can see the Packers moving him to RB (like they did with Montgomery) after he craps out as a receiver. Who knows: maybe Savion spends the offseason huddled up with a quality WR coach and learns the position. With the new CBA, more of the responsibility falls more on the player since coaches have less time to coach during TC and the season.
JerseyAl
February 04, 2026 at 08:01 am
Wolf was nowhere near ready to be a GM 8 years aqo. Keep that in mind.
Real Talk Ryan
February 04, 2026 at 08:30 am
With all due respect to you Al, what's that based on? Age?? Wolf is 9 years younger than Gutey so I can see where that could've been a hindrance, but we hired a pretty young LaFluer who some would say wasn't ready to be the head coach of the Packers and here we are 8 years later still trying to justify why he hadn't been able to get us to a Superbowl.
Hindsight is 20/20, so it doesn't really matter but it would seem Wolf's upside is much better than Gutey's upside.
Anyway the conversation was about getting the right players and the ice wearing thin with the fan base on that. At least it would seem that way.
Since'75
February 04, 2026 at 05:16 pm
Al
You might remember, the Packers keeping Wolf around.
Making sure he didn't leave by giving him promotions and i'd imagine raises.
I think the consensus back then was that they were keeping Wolf around to be the next GM.
Then Murphy came into the picture and....i don't know.
But it was quite the scene how it all transpired.
That's a (whole) article i'd actually read, besides this one.
*****
Awe...
The thumbs down couldn't form his own thoughts to reply,
Let me help if i may.
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Was that accurate?
golfpacker61
February 04, 2026 at 08:06 am
"playing Hobbs at outside corner when he's a better slot." Stop right there RTR, this really hits your point. We already had a really good slot guy in Bullard, what we needed was a boundary CB! That's where the hole was! And so we buy the wrong type player and overpay him badly to boot. Not to mention Hobbs hasn't been able to stay on the field in for the Raiders and now us. Just another mistake that we will end up paying 2 years after he is gone.
dobber
February 04, 2026 at 08:13 am
All I can come up with is that someone in the pro scouting department looked at Hobbs and said "we can turn that guy into a playable zone CB just like Nixon."...and then convinced Gute that it could be done, and that he'd be cheaper than most front-line CB: which he is. I don't think that signing happens without significant consultation with LaF, Hafley, and the DB coaches, so where's the whiff? It could be primarily with guys who are now coaching in Miami.
In the end, Nixon came to the Packers as a ST player without a lot of experience at the NFL level playing CB. He grew into a serviceable CB. People piss on him as not being a CB1, but he's not being paid like a CB1 and is playing at or maybe a little above the level of his paycheck. Just like OL, the beef here seems to be more about lack of playable guys and asking people to play over their heads. The miss on Hobbs is more troubling because he had a lot of film and defensive snaps and someone just plain missed on him. Maybe he sticks and looks better in 2026, but I ain't banking on it.
Coldworld
February 04, 2026 at 01:09 pm
Hobbs is a much better athlete than Nixon, but he was also probably the nearest thing to a Nixon doppelgänger in terms of physicality of play style in the league. I remain convinced that we went out and got Hafley ‘Nixon 2’.
Hafley made no secret that he loved what Nixon brought to his D and wanted that outside. Gute went and got a hoped-for mirror for the other side. I think Gute was wrong to do that, but I think that was Hafley inspired. Now he’s gone, I’m not convinced that Gannon (or most other candidates) will want either starting outside.
Thegreatreynoldo
February 05, 2026 at 02:40 am
Byron Murphy: $18M AAV, ~ $35M fully guaranteed.
Carlton Davis: $18M AAV, ~ $35M fully guaranteed.
charvarious Ward: $18M/$27M.
Adebo: $18M/~ $35M fully guaranteed
DJ Reed: $16M with ~ $31M fully guaranteed.
Hobbs: $12M with 16M fully guaranteed. Money, money MOONEY
Hindsight suggests:
Brandon Stephens, $12M AAV, $23M fully guaranteed, might have been the best idea. I don't know Stephens, so looking, he is 6'1", 215 pounds, and got a 67.0 PFF grade while playing 1047 snaps. On paper, he looks a lot better than Hobbs, and paper is all I have.
jannesbjornson
February 04, 2026 at 10:00 am
We didn't make the move on these guys, Gute did. The Bullard selection is another head scratcher with playmaking safeties sitting on the board as with Bullock, Kinchens and Bishop. Making correct evaluations and decisions is the reason they pay the brain trust millions of dollars. Bill Huber mentioned Schneider going to the well at the Trade Deadline to plug in key guys. Gutedkunst sits like a fly in honey.
Coldworld
February 04, 2026 at 01:15 pm
Gute got a playmaking safety in the same draft. One that I rank at least on a par with those 3, and perhaps above them now and long term.
Bullard again is a Hafley D specific piece that may no longer be a good fit, as opposed to a true S (other than depth). Bullard could be a trade piece this year if Gannon doesn’t see him as a slot fit or approach that area of the field the same way.
jannesbjornson
February 04, 2026 at 01:34 pm
Playmaking safeties bring in the INTs. Williams had a Rd Three grade and no argument with his selection. Bullard is a rover back.
Coldworld
February 04, 2026 at 09:18 pm
No argument with that
NickPerry
February 04, 2026 at 06:22 am
"With Brian Gutekunst at the helm for the Packers, they have avoided the lows. The team is in contention every year and their depth was seriously tested this year with the injuries to some of their most impactful players."
I have to question the depth of the Packers, especially at the O-Line and CB positions. When you look at Gutey's draft classes overall since taking over, it's not the greatest. I've been a Gutey supporter but for me, it's getting tougher and tougher. I do wonder though if the Packers had BETTER assistant coaches, would the draft results look the same?
As far as avoiding lows I'm not so sure Al. I can't remember feeling as LOW as I did at the end of this season. Losing big leads down the stretch and TWICE against the Bears. Listening to those obnoxious ass Bears fans was pretty bad. Hell they are STILL talking. The amount of trash they talked you'd think they'd been beating the Packers and winning for years. Not just THIS YEAR!
The Bears STILL Suck!
murf7777
February 04, 2026 at 07:44 am
I agree NP this was a tough ending to the year. Regarding roster building, In the salary cap era, roster flaws are an unavoidable reality. No GM can fill all gaps. The true separators for a contender are health and coaching, having a staff that can optimize talent and a 'next man up' system that actually functions. Elite coaching ensures that when a sub has to step in, the drop-off in production is minimized or even neutralized.
golfpacker61
February 04, 2026 at 08:18 am
Yeah Murf, "No GM can fill all gaps." But they have to at least try! CB was 1 of the 2 biggest needs last year, so what does GBs draft god do? He drafts a WR with our 1st, Overdrafts a project OL with our 2nd, and drafts another WR "Project" with our 3rd round pick. He didn't even try to fill the "Actual" holes in the roster until all the best players were gone.
All the other things are needed too, but to not pick anyone that actually makes a difference in 7 rounds is pathetic. We would do better just selecting a random mock draft and draft those players. That would probably be a 50% win rate.
Fill the actual biggest roster holes with the best players early in the draft, the 6th & 7th round are for projects. What we should have done last year was trade back from #22, gain premium picks, and started our draft @ #32 or #40 by filling an actual need with a Top 40 player.
Since'75
February 04, 2026 at 05:23 pm
""With Brian Gutekunst at the helm for the Packers, they have avoided the lows"
Well that's easier to do when you inherit a HOF QB, and a fairly decent team
I'll give him some credit post Rodgers.
But the results....are never winning the Division and going 1-3 in the playoffs, post Rodgers.
The Packers got left behind by the Vikings, Lions, and Bears the last 3 seasons.
It is what it is.
stockholder
February 04, 2026 at 06:51 am
Life of a GM- Honest assessments.
But making the play-offs 5 of the last 7 years
shouldn't be an achievement.( for Gute.)
In fact, most wanted MLF fired because of that.
And when you look at the highs and lows.
#12 played into it.
(And MLf who's gotten the most out of his QBs.)
The legacy/tenure of Gute, won't be the draft.
It will be the bang for the buck.
And how he kept the packers in contention, spending it.
golfpacker61
February 04, 2026 at 08:19 am
"But making the play-offs 5 of the last 7 years
shouldn't be an achievement.( for Gute.)
In fact, most wanted MLF fired because of that."
Buffalo just fired a more successful coach than ours for that reason.
Leatherhead
February 04, 2026 at 10:21 am
We'll see how Buffalo does. And Baltimore.
Back in the day, the Chargers fired Marty Schottenheimer after a 14-2 season because he didn't advance in the playoffs. In the 20 years since then, the Chargers have missed the playoffs 12 times. They have never progressed to the Championship game. The Packers record over those past 20 years has been much better.
Is this what we want for the Packers? Getting rid of good coaches, good players, on the HOPE that we can get somebody better who'll get us over the hump?
The reason for the regular season is to qualify for the playoffs, and making the playoffs shouldn't be dismissed as inconsequential. It's the goal.
jannesbjornson
February 04, 2026 at 10:07 am
And Policy makes the Foursome @ the Country Club. The guy can design plays, but he doesn't seal the deal during crunch time. The SB urgency gets pushed down the line. 2026 will be another rebuild unless he hits gold with numbers two through four.
Turophile
February 04, 2026 at 01:09 pm
None of Gute, MLF, Ball or Policy want to win the SB. They are all just cruising along.
Yeah, right.
You have already forgotten possibly the biggest move by any team to get the Packers over the top (Gute getting Parsons).
You have your agenda (ie nobody cares) and will push it regardless. I choose to push back.
jannesbjornson
February 04, 2026 at 01:39 pm
Eight years, five of them with a HOF quarterback, delivering MVP level of play. This is not an opinion, his critical whiffs on key players is in the Evidence File. The overpays are on Ball. Ron Wolf had it right, when he read the tea leaves on this syndicate.
Turophile
February 04, 2026 at 05:24 pm
As per usual you tell only one side of the story. The Packers were a good, but not a top Superbowl contender for most of those 8 years. They had an outside chance, but things would have had to align perfectly for them to go all the way.
In 2025 I thought they had risen to be a top contender (and so did many others). Injuries mainly - but also some poor decisions on managing the O line and an unusual down year in their choice of the top two vet FAs (their vet choices have normally been excellent) hurt the team in their first top contender year.
As their cap isn't egregious and many of their best guys come back from injury, they should have at least two more years where they have a great chance to go far into the playoffs - and hopefully to the SB. Beyond that is too far in the future to predict.
Two differing viewpoints, two different conclusions drawn. We will both have to wait a year or two to see which of us was closer in our conclusions.
Since'75
February 04, 2026 at 05:32 pm
At the end of the day in the NFL..results matter.
The Packers new goal is winning the divisional round in the playoffs i assume.
It would be an improvement.
T7Steve
February 04, 2026 at 06:56 am
"their depth was seriously tested this year with the injuries" The season before this too. Even when Gute noted the need for urgency.
Always being at least above 500 puts the Packers in a different draft bracket than those teams have been but that's still no excuse in the first or second round. Golden has contributed but hopefully will start to be a game changer and Al needs to add him to the Love/Parsons window.
If he has to draft, trade, free agent or steal, Gute has to provide a reliable O-line that the coaches will put to good use and decide on early in camp. They could get by with less caliber players if they work them together and keep them in the same places. What will the coaches think of next? Rotate the whole center guard tandem every other play to bring in "packages"? The backups should even concentrate on backing up one position till they become the best option for it. Then they can become journeymen.
NickPerry
February 04, 2026 at 07:07 am
"Golden has contributed but hopefully will start to be a game changer and Al needs to add him to the Love/Parsons window."
Personally I have no idea why this coaching staff handles the high draft picks the way they do. Golden caught just about everything thrown his way yet this staff keep him buried on the depth chart. Watson was out at the start of the season, Reed, almost to the end. Sure you had Doubs, Wicks, and a few others but MLF reluctance all season to get Golden more involved is so frustrating.
Don't even get me going about Morgan.
T7Steve
February 04, 2026 at 07:38 am
Didn't they say he was slow learning the plays and his downfield blocking? Learning the installs was the excuse for Coopers use (or lack thereof) last season. Even that is on coaching, and they need to have a ball carrier get through the line before they need to block downfield.
golfpacker61
February 04, 2026 at 08:31 am
Ther aren't that many WRs who are great blockers and ball catchers also. What Golden really does well is he has great hands and above average speed. He should be on the field because he stretches it just like Watson, only with better hands. I still wouldn't have picked him @ #22 because he was a 2nd round WR at best. Egbuka was the last 1st round WR and he was gone.
When all of the Top 4 DT were picked before us and no available CBs had a 1st round grade, the smart move would have been to find a trade partner, and there were some there, move back for more premium picks. There were 7-8 really solid CBs available even to where we picked in the 3rd round. Fill the biggest holes with the best players, not a project at an already strong position group.
Coldworld
February 04, 2026 at 08:56 am
And yet he’s a natural in space. Getting a guy like Golden the ball should not have required extensive route tree knowledge. Far less talented players of his general athletic type have been schemed open often and effectively. To exonerate the coaches for the failure to get Golden going is incredible, in both senses of the word.
Thegreatreynoldo
February 05, 2026 at 02:53 am
^^THIS^^
GB loves Savion. LaFleur manufactured touches for Savion but not for Golden. I think Golden showed that he is dangerous after the catch in the playoffs. Yeah, not liking the Savion pick or usage. If you think Golden runs poor routes or to the wrong depth (I do), wait to you watch Savion.
As always, half of good drafting is foreseeing which players will work with a quality coach during the off season. Working out in the gym is all well and good, but Golden and Savion need a position coach drilling them for months during the offseason.
jannesbjornson
February 04, 2026 at 10:26 am
Don't believe all the shade they throw out the back door. This kid should have been involved in the scheme from day one. No way Wicks superseded Golden's talent and reliable hands.
dobber
February 04, 2026 at 10:24 am
Keep in mind, too, that until Watson came back the offense evolved into a Doubs/Kraft pass funnel offense, and after Watson came back and Kraft got hurt, they continued playing 2 TEs at about the same rate and that kept better players off the field in favor of a lesser lead TE (Musgrave) and Fitzpatrick, Whyle, and jumbo package OL. THAT'S the frustrating part from my perspective.
Coldworld
February 04, 2026 at 10:44 am
We were fuming that Kraft wasn’t being used enough till what proved to be the last couple of games before he got injured. I can’t buy that take therefore.
Also, Reed was unavailable. The easiest WR role to get a rookie going in is generally considered to be the slot. Yet Golden was everywhere but. There were no little slants or similar to get him open in motion and do what he did in the playoff game.
It was Doubs or a long shot to a small fast guy (Golden/Melton) pretending to be MVS but more easily knocked of their routes at the line or downfield. After the first half of game one, it was an incredibly limited passing O till Kraft briefly forced himself to be a focus, I suspect in part due to Love seeking him out.
Thegreatreynoldo
February 05, 2026 at 03:07 am
4 touches a game was indeed under use. Over 90% playing time with a high of a whopping 79 snaps in one game was overuse.
Agree that the team seems to have favorites for no reason that is apparent on the field. LaFleur wants to play 2 TEs a lot whether his tight ends stink or not. Great play designer who has trouble adapting his scheme to his available talent. GB easily could have manufactured touches for Golden.
LaFleur's offense results in completions outside the numbers, and those lead the receiver out of bounds. That is one of the reasons why GB is not good at yards after the catch.
TKWorldWide
February 04, 2026 at 07:07 am
Parallels: Seattle moved on after Russel Wilson and DK. GB moved on after Rodgers and Adams. I do think Gutey did pretty well with the picks he got in those trades, right?
Houndog
February 04, 2026 at 08:39 am
TKW,
The Rodgers trade is complicated by the way Gutey moved and traded picks resulting in about six guys including Edgerrin Cooper, Evan Williams, and kicker Anders Carlson, but Van Ness and Musgrave were the earliest picks.
The Adams trade was almost a 1 for 1 that resulted in Quay Walker.
I guess there's a number of ways to look at either of those transactions, but at this point it kinda' looks like Cooper and Williams might be the highlights, Van Ness, Musgrave, and Walker, not so much!
TKWorldWide
February 04, 2026 at 12:45 pm
Can’t argue!
Cheezehead72
February 04, 2026 at 07:22 am
I have supported Gute since he was hired. After last year, I have lost faith in him. He made some mistakes and have put the Packers in a position where it will be difficult for us to keep up with the contenders. Policy should have let him go and hired a new GM. I guess Policy said well you created this mess you fix it.
GBPfaninMO
February 04, 2026 at 09:53 am
Right there with ya brutha.Parsons is a GREAT player but seems like all the eggs r in one basket when he went down GB went down, guess if he stays healthy they've got a chance 🤞
egbertsouse
February 04, 2026 at 07:38 am
They care about making the Super Bowl, Al, they just care more about staying profitable every year by avoiding those low years. Schneider and Wolf can endure unprofitable years because their billionaire owners can just throw more money in the pot. Policy doesn’t have a billionaire, he has condos and a theme park.
murf7777
February 04, 2026 at 08:04 am
I see it as just the opposite. Sports teams are often just another line item in a billionaire’s investment portfolio, the Packers stand alone as the opposite model. Many owners are looking for a return on investment to climb the biillnaire rankings, while stroking their ego, but the Packers’ unique structure means there’s no one at the top pocketing the cash. For them, being financially responsible isn't about enriching a person; it’s about having the cash reserves to guarantee the team can always compete for a ring.
As an example, the Packers estimated 83M operating income pales in comparison to Jerry Jone’s Dallas Cowboys which is estimated at north of 600M operating income. I’m proud to be a Packer fan who doesn’t have a greedy owner whose main concern is to line their own pocket.
TarynsEyes
February 04, 2026 at 09:59 am
"Schneider and Wolf can endure unprofitable years because their billionaire owners can just throw more money in the pot".
No, they can't, and the reason is called 'salary cap,' which keeps the NFL unlike MLB. Learn the difference. Ownership money means nothing other than being able to pay the HC and GM what they want, and that is where the difference lies between most teams' success and failure. Better coaching and GM moves, IMO, would have this team being more successful. The trickle down is the players one gets and one has to coach, and then actual coaching in games either hurts or helps, and MLF has been a hindrance to date, not to ignore Gute.
dobber
February 04, 2026 at 07:48 am
Eliot Wolf has been in NE since about the time Gute became GM in GB, and while BB held all the cards for quite some time, Wolf was helping to manage a lot of the scouting. While Wolf is the 'de facto' GM, what people need to remember is that Mike Vrabel has a lot of say in roster management in NE. I think just about every HC has to be part of those conversations with the GM, but in this case, it seems like he has a lot of power there if not the final say. Others are saying that Ryan Cowden (essentially the co-'defecto GM' to Wolf) is the real catalyst in that front office, and that his arrival in 2023 started the change in the front office that's leading to NE's success. Bottom line is that Wolf is looking good right now, but we really don't know where the shine is coming from in NE.
Houndog
February 04, 2026 at 08:54 am
dobber,
"Eliot Wolf has been in NE since about the time Gute became GM in GB"
Not so, Wolf went to Cleveland to join John Dorsey when he left GB, and was there until the entire group was fired by Haslam.
He went to the Pats in 2020 and has climbed the ladder.
dobber
February 04, 2026 at 10:28 am
**tips hat**
The error bar on my calculation was +/- 2 years. ;)
jannesbjornson
February 04, 2026 at 10:36 am
Wolf Jr. made the call on Barmore.
packerbackerjim
February 04, 2026 at 02:22 pm
Wolf hired Vrabel more than likely with the understanding he would have a say in personnel matters. Wolf’s record in Cleveland is muddied having Harlem as an incompetent interloper in acquisitions.
HawkPacker
February 04, 2026 at 07:53 am
To me it's a frustrating time for the Pack.
I think the FO needs to work a lot with Ball to play 'what if' as to trading/releasing some players with high Cap numbers. Such as Love vs Willis, dumping Jenkins and Gary. Could there be more that we are not contemplating?
murf7777
February 04, 2026 at 08:22 am
The debate over Love vs. Willis isn't just about highlights; it’s about processing speed. While Willis is a great athlete and I like his potential, Love has shown the mental capacity to run the full offense, Even if you preferred Willis, the $48.5M dead money hit is a financial brick wall. I don’t think the Packers can trade that bill away because they’ve already paid it. I don’t see any ‘what if’, you shouldn’t dump a high-IQ franchise QB just to pay a $50 million fine for a backup who’s still learning the game and who knows how he would be as a starter throughout a complete year. As much as he runs, you also have the increased risk of injuries.
dobber
February 04, 2026 at 08:34 am
What's the old saying? The most popular player on the team is usually the backup QB.
Coldworld
February 04, 2026 at 09:59 am
Love or Willis, QB isn’t our problem. Pass rush, OL and CB are, as is a scary lack of development once players arrive.
If we are talking about Gute, it’s pretty laughable that we are fretting about which of 2 starter worthy QBs is the better. A classic bickering while Rome burns exemplar.
There are a lot of genuine questions about how well we’ve drafted early, how well we’ve handled the players we did pick, how clearly we evaluate talent on the roster and how effectively we maximize the potential of talent.
I boil that down into two critical questions. How honestly and accurately do we evaluate ourselves versus the league, off field and on? How unified and consistent is the vision of the front office and coaching staff?
I suspect that in honest answers to those questions lie the causes of everything we are unhappy about.
golfpacker61
February 04, 2026 at 08:49 am
Dead money is a given every year with every team Murf. Love is a decent pro QB that runs an NFL offense that is hit and miss alot of the time. So far he is not even a Top 10 QB, who makes bad decisions at crucial times in big games. He has won a playoff game(Dallas) and gave another(SF) away. That's not much to hang your hat on. I agree the financial burden is too much to lose. It's too bad we can't take advantage of the opportunity.
Injuries gutted us last year, that is a given. Hopefully we don't see another year like that for a long time. The other bottom line is we still have the same big roster holes that we had last year. Teams have 2 shots at filling holes. Free agency is off the table this year because of the 2 terrible choices we made last year. We can't afford a 2nd bad draft in a row as the draft is our only other alternative to fix our weak position groups.
CB and a run stopping DT were and are our 2 biggest priorities. Ignoring them last year is now a much bigger problem to solve thru the draft because every year new needs are added to the list. OL is now big too. Parsons was easily worth what we gave up, but with no first round pick will make this years draft crucial to get it right.
Bitternotsour
February 04, 2026 at 10:25 am
decent pro qb - you lose all credibility from that point forward.
jannesbjornson
February 04, 2026 at 10:51 am
Love is essentially a pocket passer. He is not a guy who can move out of the pocket with regularity; therefore he needs a solid O line. We have all seen the mix-n-match unsettled positioning with the front five and Gutenkunst's signature misses didn't help the cause. The priority selections have to be a DT and CB with perimeter capability. He probably keeps his guy Gary on a re-structured deal, but I would move on and resign Engabare. Sorrell brings the heat and Cox should see more of the field.
Houndog
February 04, 2026 at 09:08 am
Wow, Murf!
The way you describe Willis sounds like the same reason some people consider Lamar Jackson 'unsuccessful'. Is he still learning too?
sugarbair
February 04, 2026 at 09:30 am
Murf7777 do you really believe this, "Love has shown the mental capacity to run the full offense".
Houndog
February 04, 2026 at 10:12 am
Oh, sugarbair,
he can run it, and run it to perfection, EXACTLY the way the play was called! What he doesn't do well is recognize things fast enough when that play breaks down.
He routinely fails to see the (other) wide-open guy downfield as he's most often concentrating on only the primary target, and too often throws that ball away on those occasions, how many times have you heard announcers describe that? ***EDIT** How many times did you see Golden open and NOT get the ball?
Secondly, IMO, when things go awry, I see Willis as faster to recognize, adjust, and more accurate with his throws on those occasions.
Maybe I need to see an optometrist and get new glasses! Or Not!
buddrow53
February 04, 2026 at 12:40 pm
Love, in 57 games 64.3% 11535 yds 83 td 31 int 96.8 qbr. I will take another 57 games just like it.
I prefer rooting every game knowing we have alot better chance of winning than losing.
I struggled with many years knowing we didnt stand a chance in hell of winning the game.
Injuries just killed us last year.
A fan since before Super Bowl 1.
PatrickGB
February 04, 2026 at 08:17 am
If he pulls a rabbit out of the hat during this draft and some of the previous picks up their game, then all is forgiven.
Houndog
February 04, 2026 at 09:47 am
Unfortunately, Patrick.
There's a lot of Packer 'Fans' that feel that same way, and have since 2011.
Fortunately, there's also a lot of us that like winning.
LeotisHarris
February 04, 2026 at 08:46 am
I don't think Eliot Wolf was GM material when the decision was made to hire Gute. I've posted this before; last year at this time, Patriot fans were screaming for Wolf's head on a pike. Why did he have a job? Look at the drafts since he has been in charge! Then, poof, Vrabel and Maye catch lightening in a bottle and Eliot's on top of the mountain. Schneider is another story, but he was poached long ago
Who knows? We all have strong opinions, and we'll see what next season brings. For now, I'll bask in the schadenfreude of Belichick and Kraft not being elected to the HOF. I can't be a Seahawks fan on Sunday, but I can cheer for the Pats to lose.
Houndog
February 04, 2026 at 09:20 am
Gotta respectfully disagree, Leotis,
From my perspective Gutey was chosen over Wolf because Murphy didn't want that Wolf reputation overshadowing him.
He knew that Eliot would never accept his 'I'm the Boss' management fiasco and then leave in the process, he killed two birds with one stone and Gutey accepted the lessor role that Ron Wolf had turned down in the late 80's.
TXCHEESE
February 04, 2026 at 10:01 am
I think too many folks make assumptions of the inner working of the GB management team, that they really don't any more about than the guy at the end of the bar.
Agree with LH. Vrabel came along and Maye blossomed and took advantage of a weak AFC East and last place schedule, then got the benefit of facing a backup QB in their only away game in the the playoffs. NE is a solid team, but not great by any means. I think the SB is going to clearly show the Sea Chickens are a superior roster.
dobber
February 04, 2026 at 10:38 am
"I think too many folks make assumptions of the inner working....the guy at the end of the bar."
Thank you!
"then got the benefit of facing a backup QB in their only away game in the the playoffs. NE is a solid team, but not great by any means."
I'll start by saying you don't win 14 games by accident...NE is a good team, probably one of those examples of a team that played way better than the sum of its parts, but--yes--you could watch them go into a very conservative game mode when the weather started to turn and they knew Denver was no threat to score if NE didn't gift them any points.
Agreed: they'll have their hands full with Seattle, if Darnold doesn't come up really small like last year. He hasn't yet.
Houndog
February 04, 2026 at 10:42 am
TXCHEESE,
I can't and won't disagree with you at all, unless the the 'guy at the end of the bar' is John Madden! :)
MitchAnthony
February 04, 2026 at 08:49 am
I used to think BG was moving toward being a top five GM. I gave him grace for the first couple years but I thought he started to get a little bit better at drafting (more so mid rounds) but always thought he was pretty good at rummaging the salvage yards and churning the back of the roster. Up until this last season I thought he did okay with FA signings as well.
Now, I ain't so sure. I've kind of moved off of where I thought he was going. This off season will be a real good test.
Coldworld
February 04, 2026 at 10:29 am
The last draft was a head scratcher. We missed on getting an early IDL in a great draft for them completely—even with Clark we knew that need was coming this year. We picked a talented slot (at least at this point) in the first: the one WR role where we had depth. In the 3rd we too a huge project at WR. We avoided CB completely till very late despite a lack of depth. We waited to take an edge and then took an undersized designated rusher type.
Strange in most years, that draft gets much worse when looked at in the light of urgency. A second slot was never going to change us fast. It’s still not clear how he will fit next year. A big but not super fast WR in the third? Baffling. Add that over a scenario where Walker and Van Ness really haven’t panned out. They are genuine NFL players, but neither have become stars in the division, let alone league wide. Neither may get a second contract from us and probably shouldn’t.
Then add in the contribution of coaches getting it wrong on Morgan and Belton. However good those two are or may become, it’s painfully clear it is not in the position the coaches tried to impose on them. It’s equally clear that their play this year suffered from that and learning on the fly later in the season.
Coaching is a different issue, but Morgan and Belton were denied a fair chance to make their best showing and that does make Gute look worse from a first round and this year’s draft perspective. On top of that, obviously the signing of neither Banks nor Hobbs worked out. They may not get a chance to redeem those moves here.
Hobbs strikes me as a type got specifically for Hafley that we over paid for as a result. Banks a prototype we wanted who didn’t deliver and also got overpaid due to perceived scarcity. Both got injured and thus may not have done themselves justice or fairly reflect on Gute, but both failed to help this season. Ultimately that’s the yardstick. One had to accept though that no one took a step forward among the returned players on that OL, with the possible exception of Rhyan and then only perforce of injury.
Being GM is paid well because it’s a brutal existence, but it has to be said that Gute’s one big recent success is Willis. The rest have been OK to disappointing. If there really isn’t true unity between Gute/LaFleur in both detailed strategic direction and the consistency thereof, it comes a point where it’s beholden on them to stand up and put their money where their mouth is.
Gute would have been in demand as much as LaFleur. It’s on him therefore that he continues to accept the current structure and any impediments to success resulting from it. Time is up for excuses, that was solidified when we gave up the cap farm for Parsons. It’s now or the 2030s at the earliest. Win now, maybe next year, or few, if any, will be around when we have a similar chance. This might be the last year of smug smiles on camera from Lambeau grandees.
golfpacker61
February 04, 2026 at 09:03 am
The NFL draft isn't easy, or every team would ace it. The 1st 4 rounds are crucial though to having a good draft that fills your teams' biggest needs and build for the future. Last year's draft, GB ignored their biggest needs and guess what? They are still the biggest needs this year. And now add OL as another big need right behind them. If an absolute top-rated stud @ our biggest position of need isn't available @ #52 then trade back and get more early swings of the bat.
That should be our draft plan this year. Next year will be different because we probably will have 4 really good extra comp picks to help. We need to have big success in the 2026 draft to avoid going backwards.
GB needs to rethink their draft plans because what they are doing isn't working. R A S is an important factor, but we have seen plenty of great NFL players who didn't have those numbers. Multiple years of solid production on the field should be a much bigger factor. We would have never drafted Gary, and probably not Van Ness if that had been a bigger factor. One-year wonders should be off the table the first 2 days. That would also eliminate alot of past draft mistakes. Not trying to elevate players over players that are clearly better and higher rated would have given GB a much better draft success rate. # 1 draft priority needs to be filling our biggest needs with the top players available at their positions. For GB this year, that is rounds 2-4.
sugarbair
February 04, 2026 at 09:40 am
Sounds a little like you have some level of rebuild going on in your mind. I happen to agree with you. My opinion (usually worthless) is that if we don't nail roster decisions over the next two years. The rebuild gets bigger and longer. Right now my confidence in Gute is pretty low. See what he does with the March roster bonuses. Now if we would only do something with the offense and special (cough, cough) teams coaches.
jannesbjornson
February 04, 2026 at 11:00 am
I would prefer to move up for another Two pick in this draft as the talent is top heavy.
Razer
February 04, 2026 at 09:10 am
The high draft misses by Gutekunst are hard to overlook but a team can be built through other means. My biggest concern with our GM is the type of team he is constructing. As the architect, he determines if we are solid in the trenches, lockdown at the corners or tough at TE. Our offense is incomplete and inconsistent because our O-line is poorly manned. Our D-line suffers the same deficiencies because we are weak in the middle and our CBs are bottom of the league. Missing draft picks is one thing but knowing what is important for a championship team is beyond Brian Gutekunst. Sorry, he won't get us there.
ricky
February 04, 2026 at 09:26 am
Yes, I believe the Packers want to make the SB. However, I also think they are not willing to make the administrative/coaching changes that might be able to put the team over the top. LaFleur is going into his seventh season, and the team has regressed in the playoffs since the first two years of his tenure. In those two years, they made it to the championship game, then lost. Since then, it has been a lot of one and done (the exception being the beat down of the Cowboys). Meanwhile, Gutekunst seems to like drafting for a combination of high RAS scores and "potential", rather than football players who have shown they know how to play the game.
And what has been the response of the team to continue to be "good but not great"? Contract extensions. Meanwhile, the Buffalo Bills, who have been on the cusp of the SB fire their coach because he couldn't get them to the SB. Look at his record compared to MLF, and you can see a franchise who wants to win it all. Will it work? We'll see. But they were not going to keep doing the same thing and hope for different results.
"The Buffalo Bills fired head coach Sean McDermott on January 19, 2026, after nine seasons, ending his tenure with a 98-50 regular-season record and an 8-8 postseason mark. Despite winning five consecutive AFC East titles (2020–2024) and having the second-most wins in franchise history, he was fired following an AFC divisional round loss to the Broncos."
greengold
February 04, 2026 at 09:32 am
Schneider outplayed Gutekunst to reconstruct his famous "Legion of Boom," by drafting the 6-3 227 S Nick Emmanwori at the top of R2 of the 2025 draft. Oh, what was Schneider's R1selection? Just the strongest OL in the Senior Bowl, OG/OC Grey Zabel.
Imagine Gutekunst hadn't wasted his FA dollars at OG by paying an outrageous sum to Aaron Banks, and again at Slot DB/S with Nate Hobbs. What if we had taken Emmanwori? The guy has real generational talent potential.
Roster construction is a thing. The Patriots snapped LT Will Campbell in R1, RB Treyvon Henderson in R2, and OC Jared Wilson in R3. Hmm. Pats signed C Garrett Bradbury, a former R1 from 2019 in FA. Top talents in the trenches..? Why would anybody do that?
They didn't move Campbell to OG? Huh... wow...!!! Gutekunst, try drafting top OTs to play TACKLE. Draft top OGs to play GUARD. Draft top OCs to play CENTER!!!
wow, again. Expecting middle-tier-bottom-tier players to protect your franchise QB is simply not the way.
Seattle's OL has two R1s (LT Charles Cross & LG Zabel), an R3, and R4 and a UDFA. Patriots OL has two R1s (LT Campbell and OC Bradbury), two R3s and an R6. Gutekunst needs to stop failing to address his OL with top talents - *to play at their respective positions*.
And, FFS, there needs to be a better PLAN between the GM and the HC. Morgan's arm length is just 7/8" shorter than Campbell's. The Packers simply F'd Morgan up by trying to start him at OG... A great OT won't automatically make a great OG. There's a disconnect in the Packers OL constructions running too many years consecutively to not notice a drastic change must be made.
Oh, and guess what? That mauling NT we have been needing for years? Could have been had if not for wasting the #25 pick on Morgan. NT T'Vondre Sweat, all 6-4 366 of him was there for the taking. (Side note: Gutekunst wanted Sweat, and traded out after TEN stole him a pick in front of us R2. He lost that poker hand, and has paid for it ever since. So have Packer fans. Shockingly, Gutekunst never tried adding NT since, in any real sense).
TRENCHES. Start getting it right, Gutekunst.
Leatherhead
February 04, 2026 at 10:40 am
On Aaron Banks:
Not an outrageous sum. The actual market cost of an above average veteran offensive lineman. And he was hurt in training camp and early in the season, but by October he settled in and played well for us the rest of the season. He played more snaps for us than Jenkins or Tom.
On Morgan: He was drafted to be our LT of the future. We were never going to resign Walker. Because of injuries, Morgan was the best option at RG, RT, and LG during various times the last two years, and he's filled in there, but he's our LT now. Tom is the RT. Belton and Banks are the guards. To my way of thinking, this is a pretty good start on the offensive line.
On the mauling NT: The Packers have realized that this is a passing league, and that most points and most yards are from passing. So they're maximizing their ability to defend the pass. Stuffing the run isn't real high on the list of priorities, because an average QB throws for 7 yards per attempt,and a good RB gets 5 yards per attempt, and 7 > 5. That's why Gutekunst would rather have pass rushers on the field at DT than run stuffers, it's why we have Parsons instead of Kenny Clark, it's why we don't have Slaton anymore.
Our current NT group is Wyatt and a bunch of guys. Brooks and Wooden have played a lot of snaps for us. Ford played some snaps before he got hurt. AND of course, Stackhouse and Brinson. I would especially encourage people to watch Brinson when he's on the field........
Sweat? The Titans won 3 games last year. Sweat missed 5. Tennessee was an average run defense by every measure, except rushing TDs, where they were among the worst. Objectively, he didn't have a better season than Brooks or Wooden.
Dragon5
February 04, 2026 at 11:01 am
No guarantee our '25 injured players meet / exceed expectations coming off major injuries. (Bahk anyone?) The only elite player to perform at or better than prior season coming off a major ACL injury was Adrian Peterson--he's an outlier.
Some of you may be befuddled why Bill was snubbed of 1st ballot HOF? Then, to add injury to insult, Kraft too. Hmmm, let's see: Patriots founded in a PIG year and its enemy sign, the SNAKE (year), is still in effect thru mid Feb. No coincidence.
To my knowledge, only the '75 Steelers won the Super Bowl in their enemy year...if we pick a winner based on those odds, Patriots have a 1.7% chance of winning from the prior 59 game sample. Given the Seahawks were founded in a Rooster year and Darnold an OX year, this also bodes well for Seattle as the two allies of the Snake are the Rooster & Ox.
splitpea1
February 04, 2026 at 11:17 am
Bold moves: One of the things John Schneider has done to help the Seahawks is to trade for help mid-season or at the trade deadine. Enter Leonard Williams, Ernest jones 4, and Shaheed--all difference makers. Schneider was not afraid to part with draft picks to do it. He wasn't afraid to sign Darnold and trade Geno Smith at the beginning of last off-season, either.
Avoiding the lows: Most professional sports franchises go through normal cycles of ebb and flow, and that's the way it should be. But not the Packers; they drive on an endless plateau where they're usually good, but rarely good enough. And when they're not good and get the opportunity at a high first-round pick, they use them on developmental prospects instead of the more experienced blue chips... There is no excitement or glory in this, and to be honest, it's nothing really to celebrate if you're always destined to be a bridesmaid having never been able to reach the top.
the_gavia_pass
February 04, 2026 at 11:19 am
It all starts with Murphy.
Schneider was the right choice, but they let him go to stick with Murphy. Schneider has 3 SB, all on his own team, Murphy has 1 SB with Harlan team.
everything coming out of Murphy has been average to garbage and of course he let Eliot Wolf go to keep yes-man gutey.
now we have Policy a Murphy choice, he started great but now he turned out to be another average guy. btw we still do not know for how many years he extended gutey lafleur and the King of dead money russ ball.
16 year with no SB.
last time was 29...time runs fast and we are not far.
we need ASAP a new Lombardi or a new Harlan! stop mediocrity!
stockholder
February 04, 2026 at 11:20 am
Banks has to go- 18.1 of new money,
will go further if they dump this guy.
And Jenkins too. walker too.
Save by not paying new money.
TT would!
Move Tom- Let Morgan play Rt
where PFF praised him.
Bust is a 4 letter word.
No guy will protect Loves blind side better than TOM.
Gute will not draft the DL early.
Regardless who is @52.
Since'75
February 04, 2026 at 05:05 pm
Nice work Al.
"He needs to hit on picks that are more ready to play now"
Yes, lets see 1st round picks win starting jobs. Too often, Gutes 1st rounders, ride the bench.
*****
The big difference between Maye and Love, was....
Maye played as a rookie, and had a hell of a second year leap.
We all saw bit's of Jordan Love his 1st two seasons,
I think there is a reason the Packers wouldn't trade Rodgers, Love wasn't anywhere near ready.
Small body of work, but we all saw it.
********
The difference between Wolf and Gute.
Gute walked into a bed of roses, as far as GM jobs.
Wolf walked into a dumpster fire, much like his Father.
Yet...it's Wolf who's heading to the Super Bowl, much like his Father.
Although i see Seattle taking it.
****
As far as Gute...
Go get em Tiger, you got another 4,5 years (guaranteed).
You've earned it!! 🤷♂️
Gman1976
February 04, 2026 at 06:52 pm
Gute has one big disadvantage that the other 2 GMs don't have: MLF. He didn't get to choose his coach (as far as I know). If he did, then I'd want to change both GM and head coach. MLF's shortcomings have cost us crucial wins in big games time and again. It's pains me since it doesn't matter how much talent Gute brings in if the head coach and his staff doesn't step up.
Gman1976
February 04, 2026 at 06:53 pm
Gute has one big disadvantage that the other 2 GMs don't have: MLF. He didn't get to choose his coach (as far as I know). If he did, then I'd want to change both GM and head coach. MLF's shortcomings have cost us crucial wins in big games time and again. It's pains me since it doesn't matter how much talent Gute brings in if the head coach and his staff doesn't step up.
PhantomII
February 04, 2026 at 09:05 pm
A little too much Contender talk for GB AL.....The Packers have not been a Contender since all the Veteran players aged out along with AR. GB can handle most NFL teams, but what Contenders bring to the field are tiny holes. If GB wants to Contend they have to improve the pass rush with younger blood and a healthy Parsons as well as a couple on the DL that can fire into the back field. If we can get that and a run stop the secondary will not be as exposed and that side of the ball could be just enough. Now on the OL side a couple starter OL and a Vet TE and RB2 are needed as well as Golden being completely infused into this Offense. Then we could Contend with anyone.