"The Packers are saying it happened before that hit and was a non-contact injury. Do we think that's true or they just trying to save face for Hobbs and keep the fact he injured a teammate from looming over him?"

I call Bullshit... Hobbs was spoken to before that by MLF and Hobbs ignored it. Hobbs needs to get a fricken grip while practicing against his OWN teammates.

With Jenkins, all's well that ends well, but he sure took an odd path to get to where he is. When the Packers acquired Aaron Banks and announced that Jenkins would be moving to center, they said they had discussed the move with him and he was enthusiastic about it. Then Jenkins did the hold-in thing at minicamp. My suspicion at the time was that the Packers had told the truth (why would they make that up?) but Jenkins had then talked to his agent, who convinced him that the position switch gave him leverage to negotiate a new contract.

Obviously they overestimated the leverage thing. So now Jenkins has come back and actually confirmed that he was enthusiastic about switching positions. His story about having a family matter, as Al points out, makes no sense, and the Packers' explanation that it was a back issue is not very credible either, because if that was the problem, why didn't they say it in the first place? It looks like they were just trying to cover for Jenkins. Thankfully, he is better at playing football than he is at public relations, and everyone can now put this whole weird episode behind them.

No shocker about the pressures allowed at the center position. Josh Meyers was abysmal last season if you actually watched the line play.
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The line overall was good-not-great in pass protection in 2024 - about top third of the league in my estimation. Low sack numbers were a bit misleading; Hits, hurries, pressures told a somewhat different story. Low gross sack count was influenced by extremely low pass attempts and also by our QBs who were evasive, got rid of the ball while under duress, and hard to tackle when hit.

I believe this years OL will be much improved- just by merit of guards not having to bail out the center nearly as much- once they start to gel.

Al I do not get spun up with nicknames. If they want to call him Bullet or Golden Bullet or Bullitt because he runs fast and jumps very high. Yes young people may not get that. So be it.

I agree with you on the Jenkins matter. Having both sides come out and be honest on what transpired allows people to form their own opinion. The problem with not being transparent (Rodgers saga) is that the media makes up things and fans believe the crap.

I will combine the Hobbs and Llyod issue. I believe Lloyd was hurt with Hobbs hit. Yes Hobbs needs to be more careful and take care of his teammates. One good thing is if he is hitting that hard in practice I cannot wait to see him hit in a game. I am concerned about Llyod and his injury issues. Also I hate soft tissue injuries because they tend to linger longer.

I have nothing to say about Simmons issue other than it might work.

As for the stats, you got to be careful on just looking at the stats. Yes you did the right thing. The stats show a story that needs to be considered. What we need to look at is the Packers had an issue at center. The Packers have addressed that issue. As for the Niners guard play there are twso guards which one was the issue. Plus for the guard the center and the tackles could cause an issue. That is where I trust our pro player scouts and the coaching staff to study film.

Golden Bullet?
I 'll show my age; the only famous Bullet
I knew, was on the roy Rogers show.
"Dog" or "dawg" would be a great way
to describe him.

The news from Jenkins sounds like
a Unhealthy dynamic.
(Behind the doors Toxic Communication).
Moving on works.

Simmons - Going back to the 4-3-4?

Back to the dog days-
If Hobbs isn't in the dog house.
It will always show up in playing time.

Back to Jenkins- The expectations.
My Focus is on Spending money.
Did we really have to sign Banks ?

When its professional sports it is always about the money. When they say it isn't about the money they it is REALLY about the money. Jenkins knows his age and what he will be able to demand after this year so he made a powerplay to make more. Gute said get out there and play because the alternative is even worse for you.

I do think Jenkins will improve the center stats in both the run and pass. Myers was simply a bad player. People complained about the short yardage play calling, Myers limited to what they could do. Good question about Banks, I am not thrilled with that signing. Hopefully he pans out.

You think Hobbs would be a little more cognitive of what he was doing since he has had some injury issues in his past. They didn't sign him to be a bonehead and get others hurt.

Don't know much about the Jenkins contract issue...now seems it was much ado about nothing. If you don't ask, you don't get and when an agent is involved there is always the "asking"...and too often it devolves into threats and holdouts. None of that here, thankfully.

What is apparent is Jenks usual availability is back in the locker room and on the practice field. He has always been a warrior. Back in business.

“Whenever they say it’s not about the money, it’s about the money.”

Golden Bullet ... very 70s pretty lame
At Lafluer's press conference he once again gave short non informative answers regarding Hobbs , and because he gives condescending answers to the reporters, they are always afraid to pin him down and get answers.
Jenkins at center will be huge as far as being efficient at blocking assignments but Myers was a pretty efficient snapper so well see how that transpires.
Lots of hype about Simmons, but the reports I have read on him is he doesn't like to hit, so its great he covers and gets there not so much when needed to stop YACs

As long as Elgton doesn't kiss any of his teammates on the head, we should be good to go.

I agree with Al about honesty but it is just not practiced anymore. Unfortunately, spin, doublespeak, agent-speak, coach-speak, fan fantasists, team PR interference on fansites are what dominates the 'conversation' these days.

I'm just waiting another month for actual reality to show up.

I did a search on the term Golden Bullet and this is what I got.

"Golden Bullet" most commonly refers to Remington's line of .22 Long Rifle ammunition, known for its reliability and affordability, particularly for target shooting and small game hunting. Google AI

Al you are onto something. If Matthew Golden becomes a reliable WR in the NFL he fits that definition of being reliable and affordable being as he is on his rookie contract.

Josh Myers taken the pick before Creed Humphrey is the biggest miss in recent memory.

Banks’ strength has been run blocking, not pass blocking, so he might be part of the Niner’s stats there.

Once again, I continue to hear reports...from people and coaches who are actually at practices.....that Golden is legit. If he can stay healthy, he's going to be on the field a lot, along with Reid. He's actually a guy who can run patterns and catch the ball......as well as being a real danger to just run past you. He's going to help us a lot this year, and I'm making a prediction. If he's healthy, he's going to make All Rookie.

If he's healthy. I have to say that about Morgan, Musgrave, and Marshawn. These guys have been on the roster for a combined total of 68 games, but only have 25 total appearances, most of those by Musgrave with 18. Lloyd played in one game. Morgan with the other six. IMO, it's a good time for us to get a better ROI on these Top 100 draft picks. If they can't stay on the field, they can't produce.

Musgrave has had 50% availability, much better than the other two. Kraft has to rest a little, especially early in the season, and the best alternative to Musgrave appears to be Ben Sims, who was available for all 17 games and even started 5 of them, because we do run plays with 2 TEs on the field . Kraft was on the field for an astonishing 85% of our plays, so 30 good snaps per game from Musgrave would really help that. If he stays healthy.

These three guys would all dress out on offense if they were healthy.

And on that subject, I'm hoping that Mr. Hobbs understands that when the Head Coach is telling you to stop doing something, then stop doing it. You aren't winning points with your teammates by knocking the crap out of them in July. Yes, thump them a little, but don't knock snot out of your teammates.

It's a long season. You've got to have people help.

Lloyd: Who knows, but I'm starting to get the feeling this guy is snakebitten. Luckily we have plenty of depth at this position.

Hobbs: Seems he's ready to start the season, albeit over a month early. I like the enthusiasm, but hopefully he can contain himself until the season opener, and hopefully that enthusiasm on defense is contagious.

The chart: I hate to bring up again, but it's so glaring noticing the entry for the Chiefs below the Packer's center--and we all know who is responsible for that. But looking on the bright side, our tackles fared much better than theirs, so that's a credit to Tom and Walker.

Happy to be on the hype train with Simmons. I think he's going to make a difference both on defense and special teams, and I'm very much looking forward to seeing him in action.

Lloyd -Whether Hobbs caused the injury or not ( I think not) - Lloyd injured again. I think that we have reached the hope stage of Lloyd's early career - in hoping that he can have a long and productive career. Rather than thinking - believing - anticipating that one is possible for him. It seems that his career path may now be more closer to a Luke Musgrave or a Tyler Davis.

It is probably prudent for the Packers to now look past Llloyd as the no.2 RB due to his unavailability. Fortunately the Packers have some good choices for the position.

Still I hope the best for Lloyd. Although the worst looms larger.