5 Things to Watch in Packers at Seahawks: Can Green Bay’s Pass Rush Get To Geno Smith?

Pressuring the Seahawks quarterback will be the key to the game for Jaff Hafley's defense

Can Green Bay’s pass rush get to Geno Smith?

This weekend’s game presents a classic ‘weakness on weakness’ matchup between the Packers pass rush and the Seahawks offensive line.

It is no Jeff Hafley’s defense has struggled to pressure the quarterback this season without sending a linebacker, whether that be as a simulated pressure or a true blitz. Meanwhile, Seattle’s offensive line has been a train wreck in pass protection.

Only left tackle Charles Cross has been trustworthy, and the line was weakened further when center Connor Williams suddenly retired last month.

Rashan Gary’s play has improved of late, and if he lines up against the Seahawks right tackle, Abraham Lucas, he should have the opportunity to boost his production on Sunday. Lucas ranks 69th out of 81 offensive tackles at PFF this season.

Lukas Van Ness has also kicked his pressure rates up a notch since Preston Smith was traded, an encouraging sign for the Packers as they look for more out of their former first round pick, while Kenny Clark enjoyed arguably his best game of the season last week.

It will be vital for the Packers to be able to put pressure on Seattle quarterback Smith this week, as when he has had time to throw this year, he has been excellent. He just has not had competent protection very often.

With a talented combination of D.K. Metcalf and Jaxon Smith-Njigba at wide receiver, and the Packers shorthanded at cornerback – Jaire Alexander will miss this game with his lingering knee injury – getting in Smith’s face regularly could be the deciding factor in this one.

Will the Packers re-establish Josh Jacobs?

After a terrific month or so, Jacobs has come back down to earth in the last two games, at least on a carry-to-carry basis. His yards per rush was only 3.7 against the Lions, and an alarming 2.3 versus the Dolphins.

When watching the games it is clear this is because Green Bay’s offensive line has not been giving Jacobs enough to work with of late, rather than anything the former rushing champion is doing wrong.

This is the natural downside of the Packers prioritizing pass protection from their offensive linemen, specifically in the draft, but this week presents an opportunity to get Jacobs rolling again.

The Seahawks’ run defense is not stellar, ranking 21st in the NFL in rushing yards allowed per game. It will not quite be Green Bay weather in Seattle on Sunday night, but it won’t be tropical either. Pounding the rock should be a priority on offense.

Leonard Williams

Seattle’s defense is rounding into shape under new head coach and defensive play caller Mike MacDonald, and is a respectable unit overall with reliable players at every level.

The true star of the defense is Williams, ranked as PFF’s 4th best interior defender this season. Strong against both the run and the pass, he is a player the Packers offense will need to be aware of on every snap.

Williams returned an Aaron Rodgers interception for a touchdown two weeks ago, and has seven sacks on the year from the defensive tackle position. The rest of Seattle’s front is solid, but not as fearsome.

After providing satisfactory play for a good chunk of the season, Josh Myers has fallen off a cliff recently and was a disaster against the Lions. Expect MacDonald to match Williams up with him where possible, and expect Matt LaFleur to double team Williams plenty.

Zach Charbonnet

If you thought the Packers got a lucky break because Kenneth Walker looks like he will not suit up on Sunday, think again.

Walker has a ‘doubtful’ designation, but his backup, Charbonnet, has played excellent football when given the chance to lead the backfield.

Charbonnet carried the ball 22 times last week for 134 yards and two touchdowns, and had seven catches for a further 59 yards. He is a starting quality running back in his own right and frankly, it is annoying he remains mostly stuck behind Walker on the depth chart.

He is a bigger back and has more of a bruising style, but that does not mean he is incapable of creating explosive plays.

The Seahawks will be looking to run the ball to stay ahead of the sticks to avoid putting Smith in situations where he might have to hold the ball on third and long. Hafley’s defense needs to bring their A-game against the run this week, as they have in the previous two games.

Play-off preview?

There is a chance these two teams meet again in the same stadium in the upcoming postseason, but even if a rematch does not transpire, this game will provide Green Bay with a great warm up for what they will have to do in the playoffs.

With the NFC North title essentially out of reach, the Packers are going to have to win three games on the road to make it to the Super Bowl.

Seattle has one of, if not the loudest stadium in the league. Whether they end up facing the Seahawks again in January or not, getting some practice in a hostile environment against a quality opponent can only serve the Packers well for when it really matters.

 

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Mark Oldacres is a sports writer from Birmingham, England and a Green Bay Packers fan. You can follow him on twitter at @MarkOldacres

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splitpea1's picture

December 14, 2024 at 03:38 pm

One of the more obvious things to watch for is whether the Packers have an answer for defending the middle of the field and JSN. We're vulnerable here, and opposing offensive coordinators seem to have caught on. Even in the Miami game the opportunities were there, but Tua just overthrew a couple of them. Bullard and Alexander are out, so that is not helpful. But we should have Cooper and Williams, so hopefully they can create some impactful plays for us.

Seattle is hot right now, but they are only 3-4 at home, so all that 12th man stuff seems to have lost its luster for now.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 14, 2024 at 08:14 pm

it will be another shootout. Geno Smith is playing well and Charbonnet should have been a Packer. He's just like Dorsey Levens.

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ricky's picture

December 14, 2024 at 05:14 pm

Let's put the Charbonnet game last week in perspective. The Seahawks were playing the Cardinals, whose rush defense is ranked 18th. The Packers are at #9. We'll see what happens as the game unfolds.
The defense should be able to put some pressure on Smith. However, they also are aware that shorter, quicker passes over the middle have been a problem for the Packers (again/still).
Meanwhile, definitely, every team is going to be trying to exploit Myers the rest of the season/post season. There is not much to be done in this instance. Reshuffling the OL at this point in the season could well backfire, as having cohesion is crucial to that unit.
Lastly, this is a home game for the Seahawks. And for some reason, weird things happen when these teams play in Seattle. Add in the extreme levels of noise here, and the Packers hopefully have a quick start, score early and often, and take the crowd out of the equation.

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GregC's picture

December 14, 2024 at 05:39 pm

Myers had a rough game in Detroit for whatever reason, but he was okay up till then. I'm not jumping on the "Myers sucks" bandwagon. I think he'll bounce back.

I'm going to be as annoyed as everyone else by all of the references to the Packers' previous losses in Seattle, but this is a totally different Seattle team that's 3-4 at home this year, and a totally different Packers team too, so I think the past is irrelevant.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 14, 2024 at 08:16 pm

Charbonnet 1:1 with our LBs, look out.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

December 14, 2024 at 06:45 pm

I think Meyers recent struggles are due to his wrist injury, which is really debilitating for an offensive lineman.

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 15, 2024 at 08:54 am

If his wrist was the reason for his poor play last week, why was he playing?

Since his promising rookie season, his arrow has been pointing South, IMO. Stenovich still believes he is building off last season when he said Myers was having his best season.

What do I know?

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LLCHESTY's picture

December 15, 2024 at 05:28 pm

Or maybe he's just not very good.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 15, 2024 at 05:55 pm

Or maybe Stenovich is smarter than you about this. Me too.

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jlc1's picture

December 14, 2024 at 07:21 pm

In answer to the question asked in the headline, no they can't. Or at least not enough. Main hope for the D is a fumble or a bad pass so that GB can win the TO numbers.

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dblbogey's picture

December 15, 2024 at 10:38 pm

Nice call. Only 7 sacks tonight.

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PatrickGB's picture

December 15, 2024 at 06:09 am

That was then, this is now. GPG!

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Boneman's picture

December 15, 2024 at 07:25 am

Funny how certain themes seem to take on a life of their own as the season progresses. Right now local media and national pundits alike have zeroed in on the 'lack of Packer pass rush with a four men'. What?? Last I checked the Packers are 9-4 and a lack of pass rush hasn't been a major issue outside of the media. The issue in my opinion has been untimely, wide open receivers that negate any attempt to pressure the QB. The issue has been an inconsistent offensive attack. The issue has been their inability to make the key plays to win, in four of their thirteen games! This game will unfold in its own unique way. The Packers will either win or lose and it won't come down to the pass rush, as it hasn't all season. It will come down to making a few key plays at important times, as it always does.

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LambeauPlain's picture

December 15, 2024 at 09:03 am

Mark: Do the Packers truly prioritize pass blocking over run blocking for the OL? Even since Matt arrived he has stressed balance with run and pass.

In the NFL, I believe it is very rare and a luxury if an OL is a wall in pass protection and inept on a run play. I believe the only lineman who fits this good pass blocking, poor run blocker in their starting 5 is Myers.

The other 4 starters and Morgan are solid run blockers. Jenks is having an uncharacteristic down season and I hope he's not wearing down. He's had many injuries and always rushes back to the field. May be taking a toll.

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Booner's picture

December 15, 2024 at 10:12 am

Packers defense is weak! They just don't have talented enough players on that side of the ball! To many swing and misses by our fearless leader Gute!

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Leatherhead's picture

December 15, 2024 at 10:56 am

If the talent was weak, why did they fire the DC last year? And how did a bad DC and bad talent end up #10 in scoring defense.

McKinney is a stud defender. Williams and Bullard have both played well at the other safety spot. The defensive line has 8 solid players. Cooper, Walker, McDuffie, etc. have played well for us.

We have a problem at CB, mostly because our best corner isn't available. There's good talent at the other positions on defense.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 15, 2024 at 10:13 am

I think if we put up 30, the pass rush won't matter as much. I'll be watching to see how many first downs Seattle gets via QB scrambles and late hits on the QB.

I think you'll see Geno getting rid of the ball to open receivers before the pass rush gets to him. He'll probably buy some time with his legs on some plays.

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Packers'Dynasties6of16-5of7-next....'s picture

December 15, 2024 at 11:24 am

My wife and 2 sons watch the Packers together each week.

We all see the same thing.

As an NFL Head Coach after week 9’s result – loss to the Lions on an interception by your QB at the end of the 1st half that goes for a pick 6 that totally turns the momentum and loses the game for the team – what do you do?

Your QB at that time has just thrown interceptions in 8 consecutive games, the most for a Green Bay QB since 1944 Green Bay Quarterback Irv Comp.

Your QB is at that time at the bottom of the NFL in throwing accuracy with a completion percentage of 61/3%, only Caleb Williams, Bryce Young, and the immortal Jacoby Brissett worse – and your QB, Jordan, finished 26th for the entirety of the 2023 season, also near the bottom.

Your QB at that time with 10 interceptions in 7 games is at the bottom of the NFL in avoiding interceptions with an interception percentage of 4.2%, only Bryce Young and Anthony Richardson worse.
Week 10 – gratefully is a bye week – and as Head Coach you have time to think about the realities mentioned above.

Your QB at that time is throwing hospital balls or throwing into double coverage forcing the wide receiver to knock away a sure interception or make a miraculous catch and turn in amazing yards after the catch - both inflating Jordan’s numbers. You should not have to be a dare devil, acrobat, contortionist, gymnast, trapeze artist, and ballerina to catch your Quarterback’s passes. When does Jordan ever hit a receiver IN STRIDE allowing them to maximize yards after the catch?

What did Matt Lafleur – who should get coach of the year for what he has been able to do for 2 years now with the NFL’s interception king and most inaccurate passer - do?

Hide Jordan Love!!

Notice that Lafleur took the ball out of Jordan’s hands against the Bears and 49ers, running the ball 58.1% of the offensive plays against the Bears and 62.7% of the time against the 49ers. The Packers in 11 of Jordan Love’s 31 starts ran the ball on more than 50% of their offensive plays and the Packers are 10 wins and 1 loss in those games. The Packers were 10 wins and 0 losses until the Packers lost their last game at Detroit – the Packers ran the ball on 53.3% of their total offensive plays in that game.

Notice that Jordan after attempting 35, 54, 26, 32, 33, 27, and 39 in his first 7 starts, attempted much fewer passes in Jordan’s last 4 starts, just 17 passes against the Bears, 23 against the 49ers, 18 against the Dolphins and only 20 against the Lions. Jordan averaged 35 passes per game in his 1st 7 games and only 22 passes per game in his last 4 games.

Notice too that against the Dolphins when Joe Barry, the former Packers Defensive coordinator and now Dolphins Run Defense Coordinator, shut down the Packers Josh Jacobs – only 43 yards on 19 carries, 2.3 yards per carry - Lafleur, not wanting to risk Jordan losing the game on interceptions, moved the Packers away from the run and had Jordan throwing passes, but ONLY short passes. In the Dolphins game, Jordan threw the highest percentage of his pass attempts in a game in Jordan’s career (31 starts) for less than 10 air yards from the line of scrimmage – according to Next Gen Stats passing charts, 82.1% of Jordan’s pass attempts in the Dolphins game travelled less than 10 air yards from the line of scrimmage. Jordan’s previous high was 74.2% against the Cardinals in week 6 this year. Jordan’s high for the 2023 season in percentage of pass attempts less than 10 air yards from the line of scrimmage was the Tampa Bay when 72.9% of Jordan’s pass attempts were less than 10 yards from the line of scrimmage.

The trouble is going to come for the Packers, Love and Lafleur, when the Opponent’s Defensive coordinator does what Detroit did against the Packers and brings one of its safeties and linebackers and corners up to the line of scrimmage and keys on the runs and short passes and mixes in blitzes from all different players and different angles. If the opponent stops the Packers running game and short passing game and the opponent’s offense takes a lead this will force Jordan into throwing long – where Jordan’s inaccuracy and interception status cannot be hidden.

As a head coach what do you do when your General Manager – that owes his start in football management to the nepotism of his father - has taken a perennial Super Bowl competitor under the leadership of a Super Bowl champion, Super Bowl MVP, 4 time NFL regular season MVP, 4 time NFL passing title leader that is on the brink of more Super Bowls and removed that QB’s NFL Hall of Fame and/or Packer Hall of Fame bound receviers and offensive weapons and replaced that QB with the college QB that led all of college football in interceptions and was in the bottom on passing accuracy during his 3 college years and through week 9 is leading the NFL in interceptions and more importantly interceptions per pass attempt and at the bottom in passing accuracy (completion %) despite being gifted:

Watson (34th pick, first receiver picked that high since Javon Walker at 20th in 2002) and Reed (50th pick, first receiver picked that high since Jordy at 36th pick in 2008).

Musgrave (42nd pick) first tight end selected that high since Bubba Franks at 14ht in 2000.

Morgan (25th pick) first offensive lineman picked that high since Brian Bulaga at 23 in 2010.

What do you do as Head Coach when the GM while making this move for the QB that led all of college football in interceptions and was near the bottom in passing accuracy and is doing the same in the NFL, has also purged the Packers of any veteran leadership on the field and in the locker room?

Well we are seeing what Matt Lafleur has done to counter the NFL QB that is the leader in interceptions per pass attempt and at the bottom of passing accuracy, but how long before a Defensive Coordinator shuts down that running game and short passing game by bringing 8 and 9 alert defenders into the box regularly?

I predict that if Seattle stops the Packers running and short passing game and takes the lead on the Packers, Jordan throws at least 2 interceptions against Seattle which lose the game.

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LLCHESTY's picture

December 15, 2024 at 05:33 pm

TLDR but Tolstoy had nothing on you.

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Packers'Dynasties6of16-5of7-next....'s picture

December 15, 2024 at 11:25 am

Jordan is now 17 wins and 14 losses as a starter.
Jordan is now 6 wins and 11 losses when he throws 1 or more interceptions.
Jordan is now 11 wins and 3 losses when he throws 0 interceptions.

Despite Lafleur’s intelligent adjustment to shut down the Mr. Hyde version of Love and bring out the docile and affable Dr. Jekyll in Jordan’s place, 41 year old Aaron Rodgers appears to be on his way back to MVP, Passing title winner and Super Bowl contending QB form and Jordan is at worst Mr. Hyde flinging interceptions and incompletions and at best a bottom of the barrell NFL starter or even journeyman back up:

Over the last 6 games Aaron Rodgers has thrown 11 TDs and thrown 1 interception is completing 64.9% of his passes, and has a passer rating of 97.4.

Over the last 6 games Jordan Love has thrown 6 TDs and thrown 3 interceptions, is completing 64.4% of his passes, and has a passer rating of 97.2.

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