Report: Packers Pursued QB Brian Hoyer

How close was Brian Hoyer to signing with the Green Bay Packers this week? Apparently, closer than anyone would've ever guessed.

NFL Media insider Ian Rapoport reported that before the nine-year veteran quarterback was signed back to the New England Patriots on a three-year deal that is currently being discussed, the Packers tried to make a run at Hoyer.

"The Packers tried to steal him, but Brian Hoyer ends up in New England where he wanted to be," Rapoport's tweet said.

This comes at somewhat of a shock, as the Packers were never rumored to be in contention of signing Hoyer after he was released by the San Francisco 49ers as a result of the Jimmy Garoppolo trade on Monday. From the beginning, it was assumed that Hoyer would end up with the Patriots to serve as the lone backup to quarterback Tom Brady where he spent the first three years of his career.

The Packers currently have two quarterbacks on their active roster—Brett Hundley and Joe Callahan—as well as Jerod Evans on their practice squad.

The lack of true need for a fourth quarterback is likely why the Packers didn't engage in a duel for Hoyer, who wouldn't have been able to start immediately anyway. There's no guarantee he would've been starting at any point, either, as coach Mike McCarthy has made his commitment to Hundley well-heard.

The only thing in question now is whether or not McCarthy's commitment is still as potent as it once was when he said the Packers wouldn't need to bring in a veteran quarterback. Of course, this could be an indictment on Callahan rather than Hundley, who McCarthy may feel doesn't have a serviceable backup.

Hoyer broke his arm in a Thursday night game against the Packers last year on a hit that saw linebacker Clay Matthews' helmet collide directly with Hoyer's forearm, ending his 2016 season.

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Zachary Jacobson is a staff writer/reporter for Cheesehead TV. He's the voice of The Leap on iTunes and can be heard on The Scoop KLGR 1490 AM every Saturday morning. He's also a contributor on the Pack-A-Day Podcast. He can be found on Twitter via @ZachAJacobson or contacted through email at [email protected].

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 01, 2017 at 11:41 am

Hoyer??? Seriously puts added emphasis on how much less faith there is in Hundley but most will say it's about Callahan.

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KenEllis's picture

November 01, 2017 at 12:43 pm

So Hoyer over Kap huh?

Wonder how that is going over in the locker room.

My guess is Martellus is less than please by this slice of LIFE.

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LASVEGAS-TOM's picture

November 01, 2017 at 02:18 pm

Hey Tarynfor12, Anything jump out at you this week? Bye the way, Do you have any connection to Wayne Root?
LVT

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 01, 2017 at 02:49 pm

Just being conservative. :)

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Bearmeat's picture

November 01, 2017 at 11:58 am

If Hundley sucks the season is over if he does anyway, so what's the point there. It's got be be about Callahan. MM probably wanted an experienced backup with a young starter.

I'm actually not surprised at all.

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dobber's picture

November 01, 2017 at 02:54 pm

I agree: Isn't this the kind of stuff that we want our GM to do? An obvious upgrade to some spot on the roster at a likely affordable price?

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flackcatcher's picture

November 01, 2017 at 03:59 pm

In this year's NFL. Smart move. (Hell, last week the Bears Miller almost bled to death on the field, from an injury that a solider or marine would get from the aftereffects of an IED. This has been one strange year in the NFL.)

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HankScorpio's picture

November 01, 2017 at 05:45 pm

The point is that the Packers current starting QB has failed twice to beat the QB rating you get for throwing nothing but incompletions. He has yet to succeed in topping that rather anemic QB rating.

Yes, the season is toast if Hundley continues as is. But you cannot level the level of stink we've seen from the QB spot continue for 9 more games. You just can't.

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dobber's picture

November 02, 2017 at 07:05 am

But even if they signed Hoyer, by the time that...
1. Hoyer was ready to play, and...
2. they were sure Hundley couldn't
...their chances of being any kind of contender when #12 could be available would be gone. So why even put Hoyer in at that point? Play Hundley, hope the light goes on, and try to get the picks. Either that, or you're trying to groom him so he CAN be an effective backup in the future.

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HankScorpio's picture

November 02, 2017 at 07:50 am

Contender? That ship sailed away. It's not about contending any more. it is about surviving through to the end of this season with a team that is still trying, however much they fail.

You can't sell 52 other guys on that "light going on" stuff for nine more games if what we've seen so far continues. It's about keeping them focused on their own play rather than coasting through a season where it is obvious the coaching staff and front office are willing to simply write it off as a lost cause. Malaise is disease that cannot be allowed to run its course. It must be treated. At some point, the locker room is lost and might not be so easy to find for 2018 just because Rodgers is back.

i agree that Hundley must get more chances for now. But unless he shows more than he has, it should not be nine more chances. At some point, it becomes obvious that giving him more chances meets the definition of insanity and things shift to there is nothing to lose by trying ANYTHING else. Including that joke I've been cracking about playing Cobb at QB.

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mrtundra's picture

November 02, 2017 at 09:02 am

Did they tell Hundley they were going after Hoyer? If not, that would really not be much of a confidence booster for Hundley, especially when we need Hundley to focus on his game and play well. Would the Packers even be thinking about Hoyer if Taysom Hill were still part of the team?

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egbertsouse's picture

November 01, 2017 at 12:02 pm

So much for MM’s big angry scene at the presser. He should get an Emmy.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 01, 2017 at 12:21 pm

This to me is about the future. Hoyer would be a really good backup to have for next year or the next few years.

If Hundley were to do well, and the Packers traded him for draft picks, then they would have Hoyer as the backup. Would have been a smart move.

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Spock's picture

November 02, 2017 at 10:31 am

RC, like you and Since '61 I, too, will never give up on this team. Last year there were very few of us giving the Packers a chance after that bad start and had there not been such banged up players in the playoffs who knows how it might of gone. I continue to be optimistic (despite A. Rodgers being out). Hundley has played ONE full game with a somewhat HEALTHY OL. His being thrown into the fire with that mash unit OL in that loud Minnesota stadium would have been tough for any backup. I saw moments in the highlights clips (Fox didn't show either game here in Tucson) where Hundley made some nice plays. I'm not ever going to not think that Green Bay will win an upcoming game; it's amazing how many people are already writing off the season. There is talent on this team and it's due for some health from the football gods! Go, Pack, Go!

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FAN24583's picture

November 01, 2017 at 01:46 pm

So MM and TT go into the season praising Hundleys value as the backup QB and as soon as AR goes down they are looking to replace him with Hoyer. So they were not at all confident in Hundley. This speaks volumes about their judgment of talent. They really have no clue.

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billybobton's picture

November 01, 2017 at 01:48 pm

should be no surprise here

keep bad draft choices on the roster until disaster strikes then sign what ever flotsam goes by

how does anyone who was a fan during the BROHM era not see it is exactly the same thing....a bad gm protecting draft choices and refusing to bring talent in until it is to late

how much of a saviour was Seneca? or the great running QB who teddie wanted so much to draft?

this is just more of the same as exemplified again this year at RB where the better guy sits behind higher draft choices until injury dictates.

not a winning combination and has not been for years AROD covered up a lot

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Mojo's picture

November 01, 2017 at 02:11 pm

It would be interesting to know whether they considered Hoyer as a replacement for Hundley or as a replacement for Callahan.

At that point you could determine whether Hundley had a right to be perturbed.

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dobber's picture

November 01, 2017 at 02:56 pm

As a replacement for Hundley, he'd need at least two weeks to learn enough of the playbook and his skill position talent to be useful. For the short term, I'd guess he's Callahan's replacement...but if the season goes down the tubes, why would they not keep playing Hundley?

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DD's picture

November 01, 2017 at 05:00 pm

Did a nice job in college. So did a lot if other QB's. Average at best. Look around the league, most are average QB's. Exception: when playing a Dum Capers defense!

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

November 01, 2017 at 03:17 pm

I have to say in hindsight drafting Hundley was a mistake. The pick could have been used elsewhere and the Packers would be better off with a guy like Hoyer, Moore or Keenum backing up Rodgers sort of like when Peterson backedup Favre.

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DD's picture

November 01, 2017 at 04:57 pm

Peterson was good, real good. Smart QB, smarter coach now too. How fast he learned with Eagles. Hummmmm.

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HankScorpio's picture

November 02, 2017 at 08:33 am

Doug Pederson's reputation was helped by the fact that he never had to play behind Ironman Favre. Had Favre gone done for even 4 games, the notion that he was a capable backup all those years would be in serious jeopardy.

In the two years he had more than 30 attempts, his QB rating was 62.9 and 56.6. Which explains why he was always available to sign for 1 yr at the vet minimum.

http://www.nfl.com/player/dougpederson/2502434/profile

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DD's picture

November 01, 2017 at 05:01 pm

Yo, Ted???

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PackerfanAuggie15's picture

November 01, 2017 at 04:20 pm

Everybody needs to step back and take a deep breath, the jury just isn't in on hundley. Realisticly we won't have an idea what he's capable of for at least another game or two. MM has to stop protecting him and he needs to get acclimated to game speed, after all he's been playing at 3/4 speed for 3 yes now, bound to be some adjustments. I'm not saying he'll be good just at this point we have no idea. Calling him a mistake is just plain foolish

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

November 01, 2017 at 04:32 pm

So then how is he a good backup? If he just had to come on for a game or a quarter then there is no idea at all what the results would be.

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Mojo's picture

November 01, 2017 at 05:35 pm

I agree with Auggie. To be fair to Hundley he needs at least a couple or more starts to see what he's got.

The sample size to date is way to small to make any kind of definitive declarations on his future.

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HankScorpio's picture

November 01, 2017 at 05:55 pm

There is one declaration about Hundley that can be made. In both games this year that he had played, he would have a better QB rating if he had thrown every single pass into the stands.

2 games might be a small sample size but that ain't good.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 02, 2017 at 02:41 am

Hank, that's hilarious. Sadly, it is true as well. We can say that Hundley has already failed as a back-up QB. I wanted a back-up QB who could win a game or two if AR went down for 2 or 4 games. Clearly, Hundley was wholly unprepared to play for a span of just a few games. I suppose his long-term evaluation needs more games. Probably a season or two, actually, which he isn't going to get in GB.

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HankScorpio's picture

November 01, 2017 at 06:40 pm

"Calling him a mistake is just plain foolish"

It may be premature. Time will tell. But on Nov 1, it is far from foolish to call Hundley a mistake. It is the only rational conclusion based on the evidence to date.

In his 3rd year, Rodgers was forced into a huge showdown game vs Dallas and immediately proved he belonged in the NFL. Ok, so Hundley is no Rodgers. No shame in that. So let's talk Matt Flynn, who was forced into starting on the road in NE in his 3rd year, too. Flynn proved in that game--against the mighty Patriots--that he was at least a capable backup QB. So it is not unreasonable to expect that Hundley would hit the ground running, instead of hitting it in a drunken crawl.

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Daren726's picture

November 02, 2017 at 06:17 am

Augie is right. We are all too premature. MM is still figuring out the best way to bring him along. They both need a few more games. It may just take longer for Brent to get his game on. Remember what a mess Favre was for quite sometime when majik went down?

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Cwilly's picture

November 02, 2017 at 11:53 pm

Jury is out he’s awful and to keep pretending is what got us here. I can’t believe he’s what we talked about draft picks. Some ego there. He’s been on team for 3 years and isn’t the savior. He’s bad get over it and stop thinking he’s good.

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DD's picture

November 01, 2017 at 04:55 pm

Hoyer? Zero confidence in Hundley or Dirty Harry "Callihan ". MM? Wow. Not inspiring to locker room or fans. Monday night Mike! And don't use weather as an excuse too. This game is huge I feel, HUGE!!!

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Packer_Fan's picture

November 01, 2017 at 05:00 pm

This suggests as everyone is saying that MM and TT are not very confident in Hundley. So it doesn't elicit much confidence in MM and TT. They rush for 180 yards and get two early turnovers. And they lose with a lousy second half. I get this sick feeling that another year goes by without a Super Bowl while Rodgers is here. Without Rodgers, the Pack just isn't that good and that might just include the coaches and TT. Argh! Guess we will find out for sure in a few weeks.

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dblbogey's picture

November 01, 2017 at 08:36 pm

It was pretty well proven last time Rodgers broke his collarbone that they suck without him. Lose your Hall of fame QB and most teams are going to suck.

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MarkinMadison's picture

November 01, 2017 at 11:04 pm

Unless you are New England. Then you go out and kill it anyway. Just sayin.

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Ibleedgreenmore's picture

November 01, 2017 at 05:07 pm

Not sure the Pack would have given a 3 yr contract as he got in New England.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 02, 2017 at 02:46 am

Why not? $476K for the rest of 2017, $915K for 2018 (Hundley is scheduled to earn $760K, so the difference is minuscule), and $2.85M in 2019. Very reasonable back-up QB money. $1.5M guaranteed altogether, per 247 reports anyway.

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4thand1's picture

November 01, 2017 at 06:00 pm

This is proof positive that the league has blackballed Kaepernick. When a team as desperate as the Packers appear to entertain the idea of signing a bum like Hoyer and pass up a guy who could help more, speaks volumes. I've lost faith in this organization from the top down. Contenders are making moves to win it all and we do -ucking nothing. They didn't fill the holes to help AR win another title and now they're lost without him. If they lose Monday night, I'm done.

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Waxonwaxoff's picture

November 01, 2017 at 06:23 pm

If they lose on Monday night I'll be done too......until the following Sunday when they play the Bears then I'll be there like I've been for the last 35 years.....Love this team no matter what!!

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flackcatcher's picture

November 01, 2017 at 06:28 pm

Despite all the media cheerleading, Kaepernick really fell off last year. Video does not lie. Unable to pick up his secondary receiver and had no pocket feel when dropping back. Overall, flat out bad decision making for what was suppose to be SF no 1 QB. No team is going to pick up a player who is that flawed. NFL is a business, not a charity.

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HankScorpio's picture

November 01, 2017 at 06:50 pm

He regressed so far from the dynamic playmaker that made the Packers look foolish. Heck by 2015, even the Packers defense was beating up on Kaepernick. Didn't Blaine Gabbert beat him out for the starting job in SF?

The NFL does not blackball talent. If a guy can play, he is given tons of chances. Look no further than Martellus Bennett, a guy that seems to quickly wear out his welcome with a team but always finds another.

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NitschkeFan's picture

November 01, 2017 at 06:29 pm

This wasn't necessary to prove your point because there have been at least a 6 - 10 signings over the past 4 months of very low quality QB's. And no one has taken a chance on Kaepernick. There is probably no official "collusion" where a meeting or email took place and owners agreed to all do this. But they are all like minded old rich white guys (including Green Bay's brain trust). That's not an insult btw, I wish I was an old rich white guy instead of a working hard old white guy.

Kap said in the off-season months ago that he had made his point and was NOT going to take a knee this season. If someone had signed him in the summer, it is possible that none of the crap we have seen over the past few weeks would ever have happened.

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Flow49's picture

November 01, 2017 at 11:41 pm

Pretty sure Keap and or his girl friend refuted that claim pretty strongly and claimed he would kneel if signed.

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dobber's picture

November 02, 2017 at 07:13 am

A media circus comes with Kaepernick. Nobody wants that for a marginal player.

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gary g's picture

November 01, 2017 at 08:55 pm

4th and 1. I have argued with you before, saying TT and MM had to go. I said two HOF QBS back to back with only 2 super bowl wins isn't enough. I see you have taken the same position as myself now. Ironically i wish i was wrong with that argument, and the team was healthy and winning. I to will be done if they lose Monday night. TT and MM have to go!!!!!!

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SpudRapids's picture

November 02, 2017 at 12:50 pm

Cya... don't let the door hit you on the way out

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TommyG's picture

November 01, 2017 at 06:17 pm

I don't see this as anything more than adding a second back up. When AR was on the field we had Hundley and Callahan in reserve. Now with BH starting, we have only Callahan with any experience. Yes, there is another QB on the practice squad but he has no pro experience as of yet. I will agree that MM coached scarred against the saints. Let's wait and see what he has planned for this weekend to determine if he has faith in Hundley or not.

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Wiscokid's picture

November 01, 2017 at 06:53 pm

Does anyone suppose the Packers have spoken to Romo

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Tundraboy's picture

November 01, 2017 at 08:03 pm

What crazy year. Hope I'm wrong but it feels like things are going to get very bumpy.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 01, 2017 at 08:12 pm

Btw. Did we really need another FB?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 02, 2017 at 02:50 am

No. Rip is playing badly, though. If Kerridge is fully healthy, we should dump Rip and promote Kerridge, who would be a much better blocker. Kerridge would be an upgrade.

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SpudRapids's picture

November 02, 2017 at 12:51 pm

Kerridge absolutely mauls people in the run game... probably brought him to turn the offense into a run first, PA pass offense with Hundley at the helm. I bet you that is what you will see come Monday night

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HankScorpio's picture

November 02, 2017 at 07:22 am

Maybe Plan B is to install Cobb at QB and run an inverted wishbone offense.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 02, 2017 at 07:33 am

Why isn't that Plan A?
Who wouldn't want to see the wishbone brought back?

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dobber's picture

November 02, 2017 at 12:56 pm

"Who wouldn't want to see the wishbone brought back?"

***Raises hand***

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 02, 2017 at 01:05 pm

Come on Dobber. Lets start a new/old trend. :)

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Spock's picture

November 02, 2017 at 10:44 am

Kerridge is very good on Special Teams. He has gone through the injury settlement period and was again available to resign with the Packers; how do we know that wasn't the plan all along?

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dblbogey's picture

November 01, 2017 at 08:32 pm

Kaepernick ? He sucks and he's an idiot. I've already given up NFL games thanks to the kneeling, other than Packers, and I'd give that up if they signed him.

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Cwilly's picture

November 03, 2017 at 12:09 am

No one cares but your still commenting how’s the protest.

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Cwilly's picture

November 03, 2017 at 12:09 am

No one cares but your still commenting how’s the protest.

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Finwiz's picture

November 03, 2017 at 08:32 am

Yes people Do care. Wake up.

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Pauly's picture

November 01, 2017 at 09:07 pm

Maybe TT will surprise us and trade one of his #7 picks for Tasom Hill in NO????
After all, he has 12 next year and will probably cut 5 of them, he can afford 1 to go get Hill.
At least if Hill played in some games he would make them more fun than BH.

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Since'61's picture

November 01, 2017 at 10:41 pm

OK let's review. NE trades Garapolo to SF for the 2nd round pick from a team that may go 0-16 and only 2-14 at best. Hoyer gets released from SF and signs with NE. We don't know how involved or serious GB was about Hoyer or if Hoyer was very serious about coming to GB.

So SF gets their QB of the future and NE solves their backup QB problem. Meanwhile the Packers who don't have a starting QB they can field and a backup who has never taken an NFL and TT signs Joe Kerridge to the PS and releases RJF. Those moves should be enough to get us to the SB for sure (sarcasm).

Way to help out the team TT! We lead the league in FBs and in QBs with less than 100 yard passing games!!
Heck of a job.

I'm hoping that RJFs release means that M.Adams is ready to play. We'll see. Thanks, Since '61

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 02, 2017 at 02:57 am

Can't remember disagreeing more strongly with any of your posts, Since '61. I agree that GB should have signed Hoyer, if that's your point, but Hoyer has played for NE and BB in the past, and likes it there. No way to know if Hoyer passed on more money in GB to return to NE.

RJF has been an expensive mistake, despite being better than Dial, who has been a less expensive mistake since he's a bust.

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Since'61's picture

November 02, 2017 at 09:56 am

Reynoldo - I'm not sure that we disagree. I stated in my post that we don't how seriously the Packers pursued Hoyer or how much Hoyer pursued the Packers. Yes, It would have been a good move if the Packers signed him and we'll never know how close he came to signing with the Packers.
As for RJF, he turned out to be a marginal player so no worries about chucking him. Dial is JAG.

My point is that we very rarely make a strong move to help the team when we have an obvious area of weakness. We all know about our never TE situation, our safety situation from 2011 to 2014, our ILB situation until this season, our QB situation in 2013, our running game except for 2 seasons with Lacy and now thankfully Aaron Jones, our WR problems in 2015 and our CB weaknesses. We go on and on. And yet NE and other teams make moves to try to win now, this week, and this season. Is the Garopolo/Hoyer move going to work out for SF and NE, who knows? But they (NE) pulled the trigger and they are trying. They are always seeking to improve the team.

Growing up in the Bronx, NYC, I've been an NY Yankee fan longer than I have been a Packers fan. But the one thing about the Yankees, especially during the George Steinbrenner years is that as fans we always knew that he was trying to improve the team. He made plenty of bonehead moves but he was always looking to field the best team possible. TT is a good GM but it seems like he has left our Packers short since 2010.
Thanks, Since '61

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 04, 2017 at 12:03 am

Fair enough. I probably focused on the Kerridge move, which I think is a really solid move. If he is fully back, promote him to the 53 and run smash mouth football. With 5 preferred starting OL, Bennett, and Jones/Monty, we can run/pass out of 11 or even 2 TE sets. Love to see it. Haven't yet, in part due to injuries, but I think due to MM's stubbornness.

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Samson's picture

November 01, 2017 at 11:07 pm

Hundley definitely needs some more field time to draw any concrete conclusions about his future in the NFL. --- However, his problem is not only inexperience but a mediocre coaching staff. -- MM is an obvious disadvantage to a young, inexperienced QB with limited ability.

It's time for Packer Fans to realize that AR has been carrying this team for years. -- MM has only been around for the ride.

Hoyer = JAG.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 02, 2017 at 03:04 am

Hoyer = JAG. What's your point? Of course he is. Problem is that Callahan isn't even a JAG, he's a camp body. Not clear if Hundley rises to the level of JAG either. Time will tell on that, but MM ( and probably Hundley, too) is already a failure in my eyes because he wasn't ready to step in for a few games as the back-up QB.

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HankScorpio's picture

November 02, 2017 at 06:01 am

" MM is an obvious disadvantage to a young, inexperienced QB with limited ability."

That's not at all obvious. In fact, there is strong evidence that it is completely untrue for QBs with "limited" ability.

Matt Flynn did pretty well starting in NE in year 3. That Packer team led by Flynn and coached by McCarthy gave the Pats all they could handle. The next year, Flynn set a Packer record for TD passes in a single game vs Detroit....for a team that has had plenty of outstanding QBs take snaps for them.

Aaron Rodgers doesn't have many limits on his ability but he never looked like a young, inexperienced QB even when he was both.

OTOH, McCarthy spent time trying to develop Graham Harrell and failed.

We'll find out in the coming weeks whether Hundley's atrocious play to date is all about him or whether McCarthy didn't put him in a position to succeed. McCarthy is no miracle worker, as Harrell proved. But Flynn proved that he can wring productive play out of young, inexperienced QBs with limited ability.

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Samson's picture

November 02, 2017 at 12:58 pm

Ingle Martin, Graham Harrell, S. Tolzien, S. Wallace, BJ Coleman and of course Brian Brohm. --Flynn had two good games as a Packer --- oh boy!. ------- To be determined: Hundley and Callahan.
Not a whole lot of success out of any of the above names.

Like it or not, AR has carried MM.
You may view history anyway you like as a "fan" but reality still equals truth.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 02, 2017 at 01:04 pm

You do know who trained Rodgers right? Rodgers wasn't very impressive his rookie year. McCarthy coached Rodgers up and helped him become the player he is.

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HankScorpio's picture

November 02, 2017 at 01:52 pm

Flynn made millions of dollars off McCarthy's coaching. His performance in the first time through GB earned him big $$ from Seattle and Oakland, where he failed both times. He got another job in Buffalo where he failed again. That was pretty much all off an impressive close loss at NE and franchise-record setting day at home vs Det.

So the Packers brought him back to right the ship when Rodgers was out with his first collarbone injury. He led a 16 point 4th Q comeback to gain a tie vs Minny in relief of Tolzien before going 2-2 as a starter. That 2-2-1 record was just enough to hand Rodgers a chance in the season finale.

Aside from Rodgers and Flynn, it is true that MM has not had much developmental success. But those two are pretty good success stories

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 02, 2017 at 02:09 pm

To be fair, Favre played much better after McCarthy took over. He kind of rained him in.

Also he was a big reason why Aaron Brooks really played well in New Orleans as well.

yeah,, you can say that he didn't develop Graham Harrell and Tolzien, and whomever else, but look at the talent he had to work with.

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HankScorpio's picture

November 02, 2017 at 02:06 pm

McCarthy is not a miracle worker. None from that collection of no-talent, low round or UDFA scrubs turned out to be the 2nd coming of Tom Brady or Kurt Warner. Like literally hundreds of others with similar pedigrees, opportunities and lack of NFL success. It doesn't mean much beyond that the front office has been too cavalier at the backup QB position.

But congrats on figuring out that a HoF QB makes his HC look good. That's a keen observation--on par with the observation that most low-round or UFDA QBs are irrelevant camp arms. Hey, you're 1 for 2 getting the obvious!!! Congrats!!!

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November 02, 2017 at 10:47 am

Hoyer to NE is similar to Flynn to GB. Makes sense For TT to kick the tires and keep options open. MN loss is a freebie - not sure I can even blame MM for not having team ready to go on without AR. NO loss was on the defense's inability to stop Brees (same old story). Monday night is really a huge game to see if MM can get offense and defense ready. If GB can't be a .500 team without AR, then MM and TT should look elsewhere for employment.

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