#PackersDaily: What went wrong against the Vikings?

Aaron chats with Packers fans worldwide the day after a brutal opening season loss to the Minnesota Vikings.

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KKB's picture

September 12, 2022 at 08:24 pm

1. Special teams didn't screw up
2. Offense didn't grow up
3. Defense didn't show up

4. Vikings out coached the Packers. Perhaps there was too much coaching brainpower lost in the off-season.

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ImaPayne's picture

September 12, 2022 at 10:55 pm

I would think the Vikes staff looked at the pass defense and saw the same Joe Barry scheme of guys playing way off, giving up a lot of space to work in and they drew up routes to get to those open areas and Cousins have the time to find them.
The whole point of zone is your pass rush is suppose to get to the QB so he doesnt have time to find an open guy, Ya that aint workin Joe
Maybe we should have kept Smith and got rid of Gary, he is leaving at the end of this season so he wont want to do anything to get hurt and lower his value.

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

September 12, 2022 at 11:10 pm

That is the most ridiculous thing I have EVER heard. Gary was a top 5 pass rusher last season, still has his 5th year option next season, is an absolute FREAK of athleticism and is only 24 years old coming into his prime. Yes, Zadarius Smith was a monster and hard to replace. BUT, he is 30 years old and was recovering from a major back surgery. No one in their right mind could validate keeping Smith and getting rid of Gary. If you remember correctly Gary was the only one who got home against the Vikings. For what it's worth, Kenny Clark was an absolute terror, Cousins was always just a half step ahead with getting rid of the ball.

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joefan's picture

September 13, 2022 at 12:50 am

I think this team just lacks a winning mentality. That kind of sounds cliche, but I don't know how else to say it. Like Nagler said in his tweet, they get punched and fold. Ok that wasn't an exact quote but you know what I mean. LaFleur's coaching abilities need to be criticized. Because I know everyone will remind me, I'm glad for the multiple NFL record three straight thirteen win seasons. But don't we also judge playoff results? The Packers aren't doing any better in the playoffs with LaFleur compared to McCarthy, and they still struggle in the hard, gritty games like on Sunday.

I see too much focus on Watson's drop. There is a false narrative tied to that play that it somehow deflated the team. Before you believe that, consider some facts. In the divisional game against the 49ers, the Packers scored on the first drive of the game. Yet somehow the 49ers didn't collapse. In fact, the 49ers also struggled. George Kittle dropped passes, Garropollo threw an interception in the redzone, and the 49ers gave up a 70 yard catch to Jones before halftime. The Packers were in field goal range to go up 10-0, and the 49ers managed to block the kick, keeping the game 7-0. They kept playing hard and didn't give up and that is what the Packers lack. Sure, the 49ers defense also kept the score from getting out of control, but that is also the point too. They made adjustments and made stops. If the Packers gave up a 70 yard catch, they wouldn't be blocking the field goal. They probably would've allowed a touchdown, just like in this game when they gave up 4th and goal on the Vikings initial drive. Strong teams keep playing until the end, not give up in the first quarter. There are likely many factors for why the Packers played so poorly week 1. But they did play poorly from the beginning and it did look like they were unprepared. This is a coaching problem that LaFleur hasn't fixed and I think it has been a large reason why the Packers have lost the NFC championship games.

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Greenandgoldmemories's picture

September 13, 2022 at 04:37 am

Joefan is on to something. LeFleur has been there three years. He’s coached the team into the playoffs three times with impressive regular-season winning records. Yet, the team plays poorly in the post-season, and plays especially bad at home in January when their climate-aided home-field advantage should be the strongest.

Does there come a point when the team begins to lose faith in the head coach because he gets out-coached in the playoffs? I’ll answer my own question. Eventually, there does. The Packers may be fast-approaching eventually.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 13, 2022 at 10:03 am

He was extended by the brain trust. He has no job security issues. He's their guy.

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Lphill's picture

September 13, 2022 at 05:30 am

Lefluer can’t get this team up for the start of the season and the playoffs other than that all is good.

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MattMM's picture

September 13, 2022 at 08:06 am

What went wrong against the Vikings?
The answer is - all.

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T7Steve's picture

September 13, 2022 at 11:01 am

Just saw that the Packers signed Caleb Jones to the active roster. Are they starting to listen or did they actually see the same things we've been looking at?

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KKB's picture

September 14, 2022 at 05:58 pm

Remember what F.Shurmur used to say: you can't make chicken salad out of chicken S**T.
It was obvious all summer that Jake Hanson was not the answer at RG, and Newman is not an OT. But Steno did it anyway. Tom is a keeper, but needs a year in the weight room. Ryan??? WTF.

Defense - lots of talent, too many press clippings. Oh how I still crave just 1 Wayne Simmons type of enforcer linebacker to set the tone for everyone else. The only attitude we had seemed to leave with Z.

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Packerlifer's picture

September 17, 2022 at 11:22 am

Before we give the final flush to the Packers' "4th preseason game" a few thoughts:

It was a weird opening week in the NFL. The Packers weren't the only big name to show up bad. But I'll take our week over that of Arizona, Dallas, New England, Cincinnati, Denver or the Super Bowl champ Rams by comparison.

If the Queens were so great why didn't they blow out the Pack by 30? Half their drives ended in punts. Three times they couldn't finish with a td and settled for field goals. Check the stats: They had only 57 more totals yards, slightly fewer first downs, an insignificant TOP edge, only about a yard better average gain per play, and a 3rd down conversion rate almost identical to Green Bay's.

As every one knows the Packers were just 2 plays from having 21 pts in that game.

What bothers most about the loss is who it was to but we should not omit to point out the "where." The most purposefully "rigged" for the home team stadium in the league. At least the Pack's annual trip to U.S. Bird Killer is out of the way at the start this year.

And the next meeting with the Poople will be on real grass outdoors at Lambeau on New Year's Day. He who laughs last laughs best.

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