If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will.

Wash, rinse, repeat...sigh

Does not mean he will be extended. Policy may want changes to the staff that MLF may be unwilling to do. Money will likely factor in as well.
I would not be the least bit surprised to see him traded to Miami.

As long as we also retain Bisaccia and McManus we'll be fine

this franchise Is rotten from the top.

Of course he'll get an extension. It's not like we ever expected accountability from the management team who graduated with a 4.0 master's degree from Slightly Better Than Mediocrity University. And we can rest assured that we'll be right back here a year from now having the exact same debate.

He was 39-10 in his first 3 years, 37-30 since. The Packers took the NFC North handily his first 3 years but haven't won it the last 4.

Then there's the playoff/championship game record. Lost home field NFC Championship Game. Lost home field Divisional playoff as conference top seed. Finally, blew 18 point halftime lead in second straight Wild Card elimination Saturday night.

If a player was looking for a raise and extension they would ask about not only what he did but didn't do. Don't you think a head coach deserves similar examination?

I expect Policy will extend him but can't be longer than 2 years. Same for Gutekunst. These guys are supposed to be bringing home the Lombardi Trophy. If they're ever going to do it 2 more years is their window or else.

Now, not saying this makes sense, cuz it doesn't. And, not sure if the current version is like the past...

But, I have always liked Coach Tomlin...I will be watching how things unfold.

Pantz

GPG

Leave It to Matt Lafleur to make Meathead Ben Johnson look like a genius!

I think it's a great call.
Extend him.
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That Hate will not be tolerated in GB!
Now- fire the Kicker.

The rest of the NFL, specifically the NFC North, enthusiastically approves this decision.

STAY WEAK.

This is what they did back in the 70's and 80's. It worked well back then so it'll work again (Dan Devine 25-27, Bart Starr 52-76 , Forrest Gregg 25-37, Lindy Infante 24-40).

If Ed Policy doesn’t have the Nads to remove MLF as head coach, then he should be removed as CEO by the Packers Board of Directors.

'TRY to work out' - does this mean Policy doesn't have the fortitude to fire him outright or have they already spoken and MLF agrees that he's not going to get a great extension, but need to work out the details.

Does MLF take a 2 year extension as an insult and walk? He's going to lose Hafley. Does he want to be around for a D rebuild while they don't have money to pay for CB's? Of course, Micah will hopefully be back early in the season.

If I were MLF, I would take any extension as I would believe in myself and getting a bunch of players back off IR will be a great opportunity.

Personally, I don't think Choker deserves this golden opportunity. GB could have their pick. Is Choker the best we could do?

The only way you don't extend him is if you have an available candidate in mind that you believe is an upgrade. If you don't you award LeFleur with a contract that looks good on paper but you can get out of with a payout for past services rendered. Then you lay it on the line-
1. situational football must improve.
2. discipline must improve.
3. must achieve a divisional crown
4. must advance in playoffs to SB
Anything short of these goals is failure and can result in termination after review. These expectations are realistic in year 8 of his regime.

Com On Guys Was It Over When The Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor......Who's With Me?

If being humiliated by DUH bares is a good way to run the franchise then sure resign him

And we should soon expect that Lafleur & Gute will replace the long snapper and declare that all the problems are fixed.

Have to give them a chance to run this back at full strength. If you fired them now you would be firing them because of injuries and missed FGs. Sorry but that is how dysfunctional teams react to these things. They have a roster if at full strength is as good as anyone. Last night doesn't happen if you have a top 3 edge rusher and the best TE in football on your team. There was a time this season they looked like a top 3 contender. To blow it up now would be short sighted.

What is it that many say here, You think you know better than the coaches.
Now, the majority think they know more than the FO.

I've always said, I don't think I know more, I just know when someone's pissing on my shoes and telling me it's a rainstorm (Burt Reynolds in Best Little Whorehouse in Texas).

Most here are reaping the awards that most boldly championed for 7 seasons, with the first four covered up by a QB that could, and the last three with a QB that can't.

Love is a product of MLF, as witnessed again, with both having no emergency in the job performance when seriously needed.

MLF and his robot will be around for a couple more years at least, so keep those biased glasses clean, as you'll be denying it all again come August at the latest.

All together now... They're Great !!!

I hope I'm wrong, but....

This is depressing. Personally, I’m firmly of the belief that the 7 year LaFleur experiment couldn’t have resulted in more conclusive evidence that it was and is going nowhere positive.

However, the team appears not to see that. Unfortunately , it’s also seemingly clear that the team is equally not convinced that he is the man for the future. Instead we seem to be equivocating. That is the worst of both worlds.

Either LaFleur is the man to elevate the team or he’s not. The body of evidence is significant. If he is, back him. If not he should already be gone. This smacks of just hoping the easy route makes this all go away. That’s not a path to organizational success. It’s a heck of a bad look for Policy.

Get a pair, face the evidence, make a decision and back it in terms of commitment and market level pay if you really think he’s the leader we need. This choice will define you Mr.Policy. Tough choices are why you get paid.

If you are trying to low ball so he makes the decision for you, that’s even worse, make your own and back it. If you think hedging will save you, you are the wrong man for your job. After 7 years, the one thing that can’t be justified is a fudge of the sort suggested here. That kind of Leadership is the road to the 70s.

This season ended badly enough, but what’s coming out post the on field debacle actually concerns me far more profoundly for the long term.

Status quo, you know, is Latin for 'the mess we're in'. - Ronald Reagan

So Policy is simply going to rubber stamp and repeat what Murphy did. I'm not surprised.

Do what you're told Ed.

In the conversations of - should he stay or should he go - the last opinions I care to consider are those of the players. It matters not one bit if a player comments that they think it would be a mistake to move on from a coach. If you as a player like that coach so much and have that kind of loyalty to that coach than you should be doing everything you can, as a player and as a team, to be assignment sure, penalty free and playing to the highest of your abilities to make sure they get to stay.

If on the other hand the product on the field keeps demonstrating the same errors, the same kind of pre-snap penalties, the same kind of personal foul penalties (looking your way Nixon), the same lack of execution and the same kind of tolerance for all of that stuff, than it just shows that they appreciate the coach not holding them accountable. That is on discipline and respect. You may be liked, even loved, but they (players) don't completely respect you if they are okay with just being your buddy and coming up short. There are measurables involved in a team's performance and a coach's record. Player opinions are not part of that.

The Packers will do what they will do. They have shown in the past on numerous times they are a very forgiving organization, especially if they like you.

I just threw up in my mouth after seeing this headline.

Sorry to repost, but I feel pretty strongly.

Much of the "Titletown" legacy was established between the beginning of the Great Depression and "The Flintstones" run on primetime TV. I just hope Policy isn't still breathing those fumes. The current Packers are stuck in neutral, and to be honest, MLF's playoff misadventures (especially special teams play and the lack of adjustments) are beginning to make the franchise part of a punchline.

The Packers have been nothing more than a tease during MLF's tenure, and for the last three years just a notch above mediocrity. "The consistent winner" mantra is worthless without something to show for it, or at least the promise of ascendance to greater things.

Policy should be able to acknowledge the truth and be bold and diligent enough to chart a new course for this team. If he doesn't, then he's just as guilty as the rest of the Packers' brass.

There are those who think MLF has leverage here. Let Ed and Matt have a chat and see what pans out.

IMHO, this franchise does not recover from the five game slide and playoff collapse we just witnessed without a change in HC. Would MLF be snapped up by another team if he was lovingly set free? Yup. So be it.

GPG

We Tackle pain like the add says

9-0. Home next year. Or it’s a fail

Title could read:

Packers Reportedly Working On Extension For Mediocrity in Titletown.

Talk about the 7 Year Itch!,

PB

The Mike Tomlin syndrome. Win a lot of regular season games, make the playoffs, go home. Rinse and repeat.

NO

Only in a Packers universe can a Head Coach and a team look this bad for the last 4 years and be patted on the back and rewarded with a contract extension . I remember when Ray Rhodes was run out of town after one season of 8-8 because it wasn’t up to Packers standard by Bob Harlan .

Propose a new contract to MLF top heavy with performance bonuses for levels achieved that could place him at or near the top of the coaching fraternity. If he doesn’t believe in himself and take the offer then make 2026 a make or break year with no extension.
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I wonder what a poll of Packer fans would show. Al, Nags?

Misleading lede. The MLF Eras tour is two acts: the first one with a remarkable winning percentage under ARod, but with post-season futility and act two where his winning percentage is just above .500 but at least the post-season futility persists. Every other North team has won the division since the Packers last did. MLF is mediocrity personified. He hasn't improved as a coach since he started: time outs are routinely squandered, special teams are abysmal, second half adjustments are non-existent, his teams can't close and contrary to his mantra, his eyes are closed, he's gripping the wheel and both feet are planted on the brake pedal. He needs to hire Dr. Heimlich as his personal physician. That gut- wrenching end of season meltdown can't be allowed to linger in 1265 Lombardi- Mr. Policy, clean your house.

Sigh

Realistically they would not fire him, even though the masses think they should. You people seem to forget the obvious with this team: GB Org. is cheap ball at its finest.
1. Now that he lost they can lo ball him and save money versus canning him, paying a big contract settlement and then paying up the nose for a top candidate. No way they do that.
2. They can justify, hey this guy got us to the playoffs, the vikes and lions didnt get there.

Hey if its any consolation, the way this team is talent wise, especially the secondary, the fact that our first pick will be 52, we will not improve the team much if any other then some wounded return to service next year.
With that in mind and keeping with the Lions will be much better next year and the Vikes have a staunch ready to rock and roll defense, the packers will be in last place in the NFC North so next year will be leFleurs last year as the packers suffer a 7-10 season and miss the play offs.
You guys have one year to wait is all then you can all say bye bye.

ESPN commentators suggesting Packers may be floating the idea of trading MLF. Saying he is an asset that has value to numerous teams looking for a new coach . Rex Ryan saying read the tea leaves, Interesting, GPG.

I Think this makes sense. Every year there are 20 teams that do not make the playoffs. LeFleur's contract is almost half of what Ben Johnson's is. That playoff loss is on the defense and ST. On several losses, the D was unable to hold a double digit lead.

Utter Stupidity!

IMHO, it's a tough call whether or not to stay with LaFleur.
If I had to decide today, I'd let him go. I'd go for a change at head coach.
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If we keep LaFleur, though, it's not all bad.
At one time this season, the Packers were 9-3-1, and thus one of the best teams in the NFL.
In all three games against the Bears, as I recall, the Packers looked really good in the first half.
I realize that the Packers lost their last four games to finish with a regular season record of 9-7-1.
I realize that in all three games against the Bears, the second half was atrocious -- and actually hazardous to the health of us older fans susceptible to adverse heart events.
However, there doesn't seem to be any reason why LaFleur can't learn to coach better in the second half of games.
There doesn't seem to be any reason why LaFleur can't learn to keep his players from committing stupid penalties.
There doesn't seem to be any reason why LaFleur can't learn to change assistant coaches who don't work out more readily. (A good sign of this may be to let go of Bisaccia -- with due respect and best wishes -- because of the thought that we can probably do significantly better with our special teams; and to make some king of a change with the approach to the offensive line, which seems to perform well at times, but is inconsistent.)
I get that most fans would say that LaFleur should have figured these things out already, but he did come to us as one who was rather young for a head coach.
Ultimately, it's up to the front office to decide if LaFleur has reached the limit of his potential as a head coach, or whether he has room for growth. One question that's important for the front office to assess is whether or not LaFleur relates well to his players, including whether he can get the most out of them as far as talent and toughness. I hope that somehow the front office does have the practice of talking to the players in a way so that they can be honest about the state of the Packers organization without fearing reprisals.
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Anyway, my main points are that I would gently fire LaFleur today.
However, if the front office decides to keep him, it would seem to me that all is not lost.
Perhaps these considerations will provide a small amount of comfort to some Packers fans.
I'm glad to hear what other fans have to say in an honest and constructive way.
We're all in this together.
The pain from Saturday night still hurts, and the frustration lingers, but there's fellowship in shared pain and the common cause of uplifting the Packers.
I like rooting for the most legendary and admirable of franchises in the history of the NFL. I like that at present the Packers seem to be an organization that is still one of the best in the NFL in its operation, as well as in its performance on the field year in and year out. It seems that in general we have good character and competency on the Packers from front office to coaching to the players on the field.
As fans, we may disagree as to the solutions, but we can find lots of other reasons for solidarity.

Good for them! The entire offense is built around getting Tucker Kraft the ball and he goes out for the year early in the season. LeFleur struggles for a couple of games then gets the offense back on track. Jenkins goes down for the year and Tom is in and out most of the season. The whole defense is built around Micah Parsons, pass rush and Wyatt, run stopper covering for a weak backfield. Both go down mid-year. LaFleur still has the team in the playoffs. They have a playoff game at Lambeau if Doubs can handle an on-side kick that's right in his face. They win a playoff game at Chicago if their kicker can make a gimme FG and an extra point. How would all this possibly get LaFleur fired?

This says it all…dead on
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1ARc9ATYCz/?mibextid=wwXIfr

This has to be a joke. Three years in a row we're going backwards and they're talking about extending his contract? I wish sending in a missile strike was possible just for the moronic thought.

"Hello Dan Devine...... Would you like to come back?"

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In Italy we say they found the goose that lays the golden eggs... a loyal fanbase always, an average coach who does neither harm nor much good... that way you build houses and keep everyone on the payroll, even the failures in the organization.

There better be expected changes to his coaching and staff.

Very disappointed in hearing this.

LaFleur is not a bad coach, but I believe he will never take us to "The Promised Land". He comes up with a good initial game plan (usually) but cannot adjust during the game. And Matt is poor at game management. Wish we had the "stones" to make a change, but I don't see it coming. "We have met the enemy..............and He is Us".

With all the talk about Matt LaFleur’s contract extension, there also needs to be an honest discussion about his relationship with Jordan Love. LaFleur is being credited with Love’s development—but has Love actually developed? He has some tools, most notably he throws a pretty ball, but what he showed in the second half was deeply troubling. Several of his plays were among the most uncompetitive I’ve seen from an NFL quarterback.