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If he can hold his point of attack, not be moved backwards and commit 1 O-lineman for the duration of a play then he becomes an enabler for Kenny Clark, Smiths and Gary to do something. Obvious statements, I know, but he has a simple job to do in order to be effective for the Packers this year.

Why? We have been clamoring for a big man. He’s definitely that. Also has shown some promise. Question is, will Pettine actually pkay him? Pettine seems averse to using Winn despite results.

Two words. Howard green. Two more words. Super bowl. Was the howard green signing in 2010 the main reason they went to the super bowl? No. But he was a big lane clogger and he helped. If this dude could be howard green, k clark will feast.

My guess is that Tavon would be primarily used on the special team which would free up Ervin a bit so that he can purely used on the offense.

As the 8th pick, yeah, he's a bust. As a gadget player who might be able to help GB with his 4.34 speed, he's worth a look. He is just okay as a punt returner (career 7.9 PR average is okay), and his 18 yard kickoff return average is mediocre, maybe mediocre minus. He has some history of fumbling as well.

Austin's rushing average not surprisingly is really good at 6.8 yards. That happens when they are all jet sweeps and he gets the handoff on average twice per game. Of course, that's much better than Ervin, so perhaps he can do what Ervin was doing and do it better.

Austin's stats are much better than Ervin's stats. Ervin gets a handoff every other game he plays for GB, which is the same for his career, Ervin averages 5.2 per rush for GB and 4.8 for his career. Ervin's career 6.9 yards/reception is far inferior to Austin's 9.3 average. Ervin also has 6 fumbles, one every 28.33 career touches (Recs, rushes, PRs and KRs). Austin averages 1 fumble every 28.22 touches. About the same on a much larger sample (170 touches to 611).

First, Austin was never a kick returner.... at all. In more than 7 years he only returned 25 kicks, and 18 of those were as a rookie. In his rookie year, those 18 returns averaged 22.1 yards, which ranked no higher than 20th in the league. He never scored a kick return TD. The longest kick return of his entire career was 35 yards. So as a kick returner, he's certainly not "scary good," or even "good."

What about punt returns? Well, I'll give him this: He scored 1 punt return TD in each of his first 3 years. Those three are his only return TDs. That's decent, but certainly not awesome.

You say you liked Austin in his first three years? In 2013 his average yards per punt return ranked 17 out of 23, in 2014 he ranked 5 out of 24, and in 2015 he was 18 out of 25. So on average, that's about 13th in the league over those three years. As you say, he's gotten worse since then.

He fumbles about once every four games, and loses half of them.

His career average yards per punt return (7.9) ties him with four other guys for 226th all time. For comparison, Randall Cobb has the same number of return TDs, averaged 9.3 yard per punt return and is tied for 133rd all time.

Do you really want to compare him to Desmond Howard??? Desmond is SIXTH ALL TIME in average yards per punt return (11.9), and tied for FOURTH ALL TIME in punt return touchdowns (8). Austin ain't no Desmond Howard. He's not even Randall Cobb.

13-3 with an appearance in the NFC championship game, but they didn't think that they were "in contention."

Got it.

oh, another conspiracy discovert by the smarties here. They just win the super bowl to stick it to "them". Like always, whoever that is. Flatearth is striking back. Brain does not exsist and science is the enemy of the people. Fitting.......

At least people can (and looking even forward to it, what was unthinkable in the past couple of years) finally go to the WH again. after its cleaned 2 weeks of course.

But its not nice if you comparing Boyle with Kizer. You wont know, like everything else, but we got a pretty good prospect in the draft.

Lazy media types reading teams PR instead of looking at their Cap numbers. Vikings were a total mess Cap wise and had to cut or trade core and key starters. As for the Lions and Bears, do I have to say anything? As I wrote below, Gute kept this roster intact and within Cap. Very impressive. I'll say it again. Complaining about the draft is lazy if you don't understand the context and the goals of the team. Love was a future pick just like Rodgers was a future pick. This is the way good football teams do business. And the signings are what a smart and good GM does within his Cap numbers to improve his team.

AR has more weapons that he can use.........easy to see.
KC just one the SB with the same kind of team.
Gutes 3 drafts are on the money. Just check the numbers......
there is no way he regreting his picks, they look better by the day.

too little too late in november/dezember?????

Green Bay isn’t a private owned market team...so they rarely get the “hype” that other teams do. Gute did sign Funchess but it didn’t work out due to COVID. So I don’t think the case is very strong for Gute thinking they are not contenders. The Dillon signing ...I was happy with. He made a living running against stacked boxes.Both Jones and Williams contracts are coming due and I think they may only be able to keep 1. The colossal mistake I think was not drafting a DL/ nose. M. Adams hasn’t shown anything , KeKe really isn’t anything more than relief. A lot of this is put on Pettine. The first year when he was emphasizing middle pressure and had 3 legit DL in the middle with Clark, mo Wilkerson etc it passed the eye test. Maybe with Wynn and Rush rotating it will improve.