Packers Question of the day - Takeaways from the win

The Packers evened up the all-time series between them and the Bears for the first time since 1933. 

After letting a 27-10 lead drift away in the fourth quarter, Aaron Rodgers delivered the dagger 3rd down throw to Jordy Nelson that ultimately set them up for the game-winning field goal, courtesy of Mason Crosby. There's just something about making clutch, late-game throws against the Bears with the division on the line that Rodgers loves.

What were your takeaways from that heart attack of a football game?

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Zachary Jacobson is a staff writer/reporter for Cheesehead TV. He's the voice of The Leap on iTunes and can be heard on The Scoop KLGR 1490 AM every Saturday morning. He's also a contributor on the Pack-A-Day Podcast. He can be found on Twitter via @ZachAJacobson or contacted through email at [email protected].

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Ibleedgreenmore's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:04 am

I thought here we go again, well that was just a nail bitter I tell you. I was thinking early Rodgers can sit the last 7 minutes out till the defense let the Bars run wild.

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Allan Murphy's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:04 am

We neen to put games away early not late omg lucky...........

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Allan Murphy's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:04 am

We neen to put games away early not late omg lucky...........

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Allan Murphy's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:05 am

Need

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Gianich's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:05 am

I took away that Rollins and Randall are and always have been absolutely terrible in zone coverage!

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dobber's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:38 am

This team simply does not have a #1 CB, and some teams are going to be able to exploit that.

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Gianich's picture

December 19, 2016 at 10:17 am

Gunter looked like a number one yesterday.... Rarely a ball came his way.

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cuervo's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:10 am

We are set at running back for next year with Montgomery and Michaels. No need to even think about signing Lacy.

Our defense is still a huge question mark...pass defense is terrible and isn't helped by the complete lack of any pressure whatsoever (except for peppers 1 play).

It very probable we end up in the playoffs...but unless the defense can pick it up significantly we won't go too far.

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carusotrap's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:35 am

Tap the brakes on letting Lacy walk for a minute. Considering his injury, the Packers might be able to get Lacy at a discount. Let him test the market, which you can predict might be a touch soft, and sign him in classic Ted fashion for a one-year prove it deal. Then, consider a roster with Montgomery, Lacy, and Michael as your RBs. Rip is the FB, and Cook is the 1st TE (don't care one way or the other about RichRod). Nelson, Cobb, Adams, maybe Allison and a rookie/UDFA or three. Cut Janis loose once and for all (sorry Janis Nation), and also Davis, since they're not going to use him.

Ah, if only we were all GM....everyone would be all-pro, no one would get hurt, and we'd be 19-0 every year.

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dobber's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:41 am

If there's one thing that this season showed, it's that RB is a high-attrition position. You'd better have more than two...and for all the talk about #27 being slow, he's the only back they have who can be his own blocker and brings a punishing style that many don't. Sure, they could go out and draft a RB, but they have so many draft needs already that a relatively inexpensive signing of #27 takes some pressure off the picks they have.

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fthisJack's picture

December 19, 2016 at 10:58 am

#27 is hurt too often and i don't think he loves the game. let him go and get a comp pick for him.

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Flow49's picture

December 19, 2016 at 04:10 pm

Fthisjack, I'm not a physician by any means but I think Lacy's ankle problems are a direct result of him carrying too much weight in his frame. Cut down to 235-240 and he'd probably have less issues. But that's the bigger problem he doesn't seem to have the desire to take care of his body in the offseason or during the season. The real reason we should let him walk is not the lack of production nor the injuries, it's that he just plain doesn't have the want to or desire to be a NFL player.

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rdent's picture

December 20, 2016 at 08:18 pm

I read the other day that Lacy is still in a boot and using a cart to get around, that concerns me with his weight problems.

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stockholder's picture

December 19, 2016 at 12:10 pm

Dobber I don't agree on Lacy. WE saw Monty run for daylight. Any opening and he had yards. Lacy is slow and runs at people. He relies on running over people. But still can't get the short and one when needed! We need quick and to the holes. To many medical issues with Lacy. He will only hurt the progress made with Monty. And maybe others that can do better than lacy has. I say let him go.

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Tundraboy's picture

December 19, 2016 at 03:33 pm

Here, Here. I'm in agreement, just think Lacy is now No 2.

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dobber's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:14 am

This defense needs to take home the message that it needs to play with a speed, intensity and focus more like what they showed against Seattle than what they showed against Chicago. Every week is a playoff game and it's been that way for a few weeks now. The Bears didn't care who was out and who was playing hurt, and neither will the Vikings or the Lions.

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zoellner25's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:17 am

Complacent again with a nice lead = bad news. I was hoping we could sit Arod for Hundley but not they way our defense was playing

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dobber's picture

December 19, 2016 at 10:11 am

There aren't going to be any playoff teams out there that will be afraid of the Packers team that barely beat the Bears yesterday. But if they consistently play like they did against Seattle? Nobody wants to play that team.

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Tundraboy's picture

December 19, 2016 at 03:37 pm

Jekyll and Hyde team. I like the Jekyll one because it's a total team effort, which is what we need from here on out.

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croatpackfan's picture

December 19, 2016 at 04:07 pm

I do not agree with you. Nobody want Packers, for which team they need to prepare?
Why do you think that it is easy not to underestimate opponent? Bears is 3-10, but they played much better than their record. They were 2-2 in division and Packers were 2-1. Bears won over Vikings and Lions (once). Packers are only team that beat Bears twice this year. I'm not afraid of next 2 matches. If Detroit lose, Packers can, so it will be less pressure on Packers. The hardest game to play and win are the games everybody thinks you will surely win.

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NickPerry's picture

December 20, 2016 at 05:59 am

Croat you asked how Rollins could be so bad if he lead the team in tackles. Without having to explain it all here, just check this out.... The worst performances from week 15.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-10-worst-performances-from-sundays-...

BTW... Not always a great thing when the CB leads team in tackles.

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zoellner25's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:16 am

After going through over a month with Zero running game, we now have a legit running game. The O-line didn't change, so it must be the backs. Finally, coaches realize 32+88 > 27+44. Simple math.

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dobber's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:35 am

I think the math is 32+88 > 44+X...where X is anything.

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pacman's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:32 am

Offense is clicking. A miracle find in 88. If AR gets the ball out faster, we might be able to overcome the defensive lapses. But MM/AR seem to still want to go for the long ball rather than have a safe win. At least now it is working!

Defense is a mess. How do we have 2 ints and a strip fumble for points and still not blow the team out? I haven't seen any constructive comments on how to fix that. Can't fire DC with 2 games left.

We should be able to handle Vikings next week but will still have to play Detroit to win the division the week after. If the D doesn't fix something, a healed(?) and hot Stafford will end our season.

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fthisJack's picture

December 19, 2016 at 11:03 am

i wouldn't count on beating the Vikings the way this team plays the 4th quarter. remember Bradford looked MVP against us in week 2 with only 2 weeks under his belt. they'll attack the middle of the D just like everyone else and have success.

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PortlandMark's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:34 am

If the Packer receivers didn't drop those balls early in the game then this one would have been a laugher and we wouldn't fret about the defense. If the offense could've picked up a few first downs in the 4th quarter then no late game heroics would have been needed. It's a team game. The defense gave the offense a chance to put more points up but they left them on the field.

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fthisJack's picture

December 19, 2016 at 11:08 am

thats MM 4th quarter game management.....go into a shell and hope you are far enough ahead to weather Capers defense.

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marpag1's picture

December 19, 2016 at 12:21 pm

IF the receivers didn't drop... and IF the offense had picked up first downs... It's just the same as saying, "If the Packers had played far better than they actually did, this game would not have been close." How can anyone argue? But the obvious fact remains that they DIDN'T play better, and there's no guarantee that they will next time, either.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:12 pm

True, Marpag. If any QB throws 30 passes, statistically that QB should expect at least one and probably 2 drops, and as many as three drops. I grant that the three or four drops (I think one of Jordy's was actually PI) were big.

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Derrick Altemeier's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:36 am

I think the defense played the best it could in that weather it kinda hard to execute and they do better on man to man and there wasn't very much of that

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

December 19, 2016 at 10:17 am

Allan...is that you?

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:47 am

So glad we've finally tied up the overall series. With a two point advantage in overall points we are clearly the dominant team in this storied rivalry. I've been waiting for this day since I was -30 years old.

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cuervo's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:49 am

I have to disagree with even thinking about signing Lacy. Any money spent on signing him (unless it's the vet's minimum) is wasted $. Lacy couldn't/wouldn't have made any of the 4 splash runs Montgomery and Michael's made yesterday. He's been a decent back for us (when healthy)...let him sign elsewhere.
With Monty and Michaels, and another free agent/low round draft pick we are fine at running back. There is no room for a Monty, Michaels, Lacy trio....there's only 1 ball, and we throw it most of the time.

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CJ Bauckham's picture

December 19, 2016 at 10:11 am

You're making the assumption Monty and Michaels will stay healthy all year. Highly unlikely...

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cuervo's picture

December 19, 2016 at 10:51 am

No, I'm not making that assumption.....Monty and Michaels are the two best backs on this team.....which means Lacy is the 3rd option, and they would have to pay him more money than the other two....you don't pay your 3rd best back,, with ongoing weight issues, more money than the backs ahead of him....unless your Matt Millen.

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fthisJack's picture

December 19, 2016 at 11:11 am

and health issues. he runs too high and gets pounded and is always hurt. adios #27.

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CJ Bauckham's picture

December 19, 2016 at 12:59 pm

I'll have to respectfully agree to disagree, as I am not convinced Michaels is a better back than Lacy. He won't break the bank on a one year prove it deal, so I also don't see why one wouldn't even entertain the idea of that. He offers a running style that neither of the other backs do and was pretty damn good this year, even when his ankle was hurt. Lastly, there are an awful lot of holes to be filled this offseason, so there's no guarantee we even draft a rb. Could just be udfa's... and Ted hasn't been great at hitting home runs on those (at rb).

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 19, 2016 at 09:54 am

Roller coaster of a game.
I thought going into the game it was going to be a tough fought game. But when they got up 17 points I didn't expect them to give up 17 points.

Its just really fitting that the game was tied with 3 seconds left in the game and won by 3 points as time expired, considering the history of the rivalry.

Can we officially say we have some RB's on the roster. Montgomery has just been dynamic since officially becoming a RB.
Michael showed his talent yesterday as well.

This game shouldn't have been as close as it ended up being, but in crunch time the 3 clutch players made the clutch plays need to win the game. Rodgers, Nelson, Crosby.

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LightningLord's picture

December 19, 2016 at 10:03 am

I thought the zone coverage they were in after the lead they took in the third quarter was too deep, like a prevent defense which often will prevent the defending team from winning. Barkley made too many throws below the coverage and found the seams. Capers needs to make quick adjustments when he sees QBs finding the weaknesses in his schemes. BTW, I was at the game.

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Gianich's picture

December 19, 2016 at 10:18 am

I took away that this is not a championship defense by any stretch.

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GB Jacker's picture

December 19, 2016 at 10:19 am

Road wins in the NFL are tough and delighted we got there in the end. Barkley and the Bears have been frisky for a few weeks now (credit to Fox) and but for a crazy penalties and drops on final drives they would have beaten Titans and Detroit (would have been helpful).

The offense is coming into shape just at the right time. Hopefully Adams forgets those drops as those kind of plays have to be made in the playoffs. Everybody on here has been high on Monty for ages and it's great to see him getting more touches.

We need to run the ball early in games to give our RB momentum. Monty is low and patient, reminded me of Lev Bell. We should aim to run all over the Vikings.

Good win. Progress. As long as the D keeps below 30 points a game we have a chance. Capers wants his DBs to have their eyes on the QB to chase turnovers. Sometimes it kills us, but 9 turnovers in 2 games is great.

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Houndog's picture

December 19, 2016 at 10:27 am

Why should Capers make adjustments, he's gotten a free ride from McPuffy for so many years he's feeling real comfortable.
Unfortunately, he and McPuffy are alike in their stubbornness, sticking with an often poor game plan.
They're two peas in a pod, ah, make that three, and you can throw Albino Ted in the stubborn basket too!

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GB Jacker's picture

December 19, 2016 at 10:35 am

Is it giving MM & TT too much credit to think starting the season with only 2 RBs in Starks and Lacy was down to knowing what they might have in Monty? Hopefully they had some idea...

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

December 19, 2016 at 10:51 am

-First Crosby field goal was ugly.
-Never should go long on 3rd down like the last play to Nelson. Just move the sticks.
-My glass is almost 50% empty and there is no one to fill it up.

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SpudRapids's picture

December 19, 2016 at 11:15 am

You know I will actually chip and I agree a little on Cobb. He didn't have a single catch yesterday! I don't think it was a bad decision to pay him at the time but he hasn't panned out after being paid.

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fthisJack's picture

December 19, 2016 at 11:17 am

you do realize that Mathews is playing hurt right now don't you? at the time of giving him the contract, he was worth every penny of it. no one knows how these contracts will play out and there is nothing you can do about it.

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Since'61's picture

December 19, 2016 at 10:52 am

My takeaways are that the Packers need to do better on 3rd downs both on offense and defense. If Rodgers hits some of his open receivers on the 3rd down short routes rather than going for the home run play we keep some of our second half drives alive and chew up the clock which closes out the Bears 4th Q opportunity for a comeback and the need for Rodgers/Jordy late game heroics.
Defense needs to get off the field on 3rd downs late in the game. We need a better pass rush, injuries or not.
Our run game is solid with our OL, Monty, Micheal and Rip. I don't like the way the defense let up in the 4Q but I'm willing to give them a pass since they played great for 3 and 3/4 games and they probably had an emotional let down when the Pack went up 27-10. However, we can't afford that against the Lions in 2 weeks and we obviously can't allow it in the post-season.
For now the Win is all that matters and one quarter of poor play in the last 16 quarters while still winning the game is OK. We'll get the defense back on track at Lambeau on Saturday against the Viqueens. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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croatpackfan's picture

December 19, 2016 at 04:12 pm

Right on spot. And I'm completely satisfied that lesson about relaxing while having huge lead is very dangerous came against Bears, not Lions or later...

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Lphill's picture

December 19, 2016 at 11:29 am

How could the secondary play so well against The Seahawks and Giants and stink against the Bears? Maybe we need a new DB coach. It has to be a break down in coaching. Randall and Rollins have played better in games.

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Three and Out's picture

December 19, 2016 at 11:30 am

Takeaway from the game?

Why is the coaching staff still married to zone prevent with a 4th quarter lead? It's like either A) they want to intentionally make it harder for Rodgers or B) they're too stubborn to acknowledge it doesn't work.

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Art's picture

December 19, 2016 at 11:47 am

Cutting Lacy may sound good now however keep in mind there would be a good chance Vikings would sign him and our defense would have their hands full. AP will be gone after this year, age, injuries and contract $. Plus Vikings love signing ex Packers. Should we still cut him?

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cuervo's picture

December 19, 2016 at 12:26 pm

Yes....you don't sign players you don't need to prevent someone else from maybe getting them. Sign and keep your best players.....he's our 3rd best back...when healthy.

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croatpackfan's picture

December 19, 2016 at 04:14 pm

And what if Ty and Chris got injury? Than TT will be guilty because he did not sign Eddie...
You are ridiculous...

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PaulRosik's picture

December 19, 2016 at 11:53 am

The Packers now control their own playoff destiny was my biggest takeaway.

And that is was one more gut punch loss for the Bears to the Pack and can join the Raji pick to go to the Super Bowl, Rodgers to Cobb to win the division and the Freeman "he did what" catch in overtime. Got to love those moments when its the Bears getting the shaft.

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ray nichkee's picture

December 19, 2016 at 12:12 pm

He did what? If you're refering to the Al Michaels call I'm pretty sure that was a Monday night game against the Vikings.

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marpag1's picture

December 19, 2016 at 03:40 pm

It was the Vikings. Nov 6, 2000.

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PETER MAIZ's picture

December 19, 2016 at 11:56 am

The pass defense is terrible and that's why the Packers had that horrific 4 game slide. This has got to improve by Detroit time. Otherwise, there may be a lot of disappointed fans. And, of course, it has improved in some games, nothing to write home about. So why would we expect the Packers to fix it this late in the season? On this issue, it's sink or swim at this point.

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croatpackfan's picture

December 19, 2016 at 04:16 pm

Well if Packers offense did something during end of 3rd and whole 4th quarter, Bears would not be in the position to equal the score...

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johngalt's picture

December 19, 2016 at 12:10 pm

Why can't you guys just learn to watch, appreciate, and temper your expectations? This site is filled with a bunch a frickin snowflakes. Writers are great, readers are entitled.

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johngalt's picture

December 19, 2016 at 12:10 pm

Why can't you guys just learn to watch, appreciate, and temper your expectations? This site is filled with a bunch a frickin snowflakes. Writers are great, readers are entitled.

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EdsLaces's picture

December 19, 2016 at 01:23 pm

I learned that no matter what when we have a lead and are trying to run to the clock we will always go for the deep ball over trying to dink n dunk our way to victory. Without that late miracle we might not have won that game....

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Handsback's picture

December 19, 2016 at 03:55 pm

Only game that matters is against the Vikings next week.

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