Fair question - honestly, we know the answer is neither. However, I think it's more likely that TT steps down/retires before Murph would swing the hammer on MM. Couple reasons:
1) He's not going to interfere w/ the GM running the football operation - just not how he operates it.
2) MM still has a lot of $ tied up from his extension. That all gets owed to him if we let him go.

Now, behind TT we have the esteemed Mr. Wolf (version 2.0). I think that changing of the guard will happen sooner rather than later. And I think he will be allowed to make a choice on the head coach, much like TT did after year 1.

All that said - I think there is very likely to be a significant changeover on the offensive staff following this campaign. They're stale - the game has changed but MM and team have not. There's no one outside of Clements that has any experience elsewhere on the coaching staff, so where are new ideas coming from?

Bottom line, organizational adjustments are (and should be) coming. But it will be at the GM level first.

we can all dream....

Neither.

We have no one in authority to make a move regarding TT.

TT will never make a move on MM.

And, they won a Super Bowl back in 2010.

That victory, making a quick annual appearance in the playoffs and consistently finishing ahead of the mighty Lions & Bears every season, is good enough for the Packer organization.

Sure there will be some grumbling about how the Zimmer-led Vikes have passed us by, sort of like there was when Harbaugh was leading the Niners and how Seattle has owned us, but the loyalists will point to bad luck and the always available injury card and before you know it, seasons 13 & 12 respectively of the TT/MM era will be upon us.

Don't think so, In order for MM to be on a short leash TT has to put him on it. For TT, Mark Murphy has to do it. When at anytime over the last 8 or so yrs has Murphy ever shown he is willing to do anything other than something to do with $$$$$$$$ for the organization.

I don't think either are on that short of a leash. They are not a knee jerk team.

That being said I think the one who's time in Green Bay may end first I think would be Thompson. I really get the sense that the Packers don't want to lose Wolf. So much that I could see them having Thompson take some sort of mentor type of role and promote Wolf to GM.

If something happens TT goes first so that the new GM probably Wolf can choose their own HC. At the least changes need to be made to the offensive coaching staff which is up to MM. In any case nothing will or should be done until after the season.
Thanks, Since '61

Push Tinkering Ted out into a facade of a celebrated retirement and use him as a consultant and hire Wolf as GM and he can hire his own coach to coach up this team. There is talent on the roster and no GM can control injuries but the coaches have not been able to maximize the team's talent since January 19, 2014

For argument sake, perhaps Edgar Bennett has been promoted to a position above his ability to quickly. He is the OC and has a big say in the offensive playbook week to week and since his departure as receivers coach, both receivers and Rodgers have been fruitless.
However, is this because MM ignores his input or is his input something that MM needs to work around during the game plan weekly which limits the play call variations (predictable or limited) via lack of practice of install.
Lastly, the fact that Rodgers himself appears more out of touch with the plays, since all the blame cannot be placed at all others for blown assignments, perhaps he is the one playing video games instead of learning the playbook.
Someone or multiple people need to be held to some severe level of accountabilty. Up to and strong possibility of a game benching of Rodgers if another inept showing of play by him against Chicago.

After the Seattle debacle I am sure that Mike McCarthy had no intentions of giving up the play calling, that had to be an edict from Murphy, Thompson, or both, we all know how stubborn McCarthy can be. In regards to either Murphy or Thompson having a hands off philosophy with the head coach that does not look like the case. I also believe McCarthy was given the ultimatum from one or both to jettison his pal Slocum, if Mike makes the call he is still the ST coach. We need a little laughter with every thing going south, Mike Hart in the Journal/Sentinel said today, "Many tailgaters wore Halloween costumes Sunday, the scariest one was the Mike McCarthy game plan".

Ted - replace the punter, release Starks, get a tight end in here. You have one week.

Mike - if you miss the playoffs you will be fired.

Mark - a move you could make now that wouldn't totally mess up the season is to retire Ted and promote Elliot Wolf.

PS - finally a move (trade with KC) that might help the team and in the middle of the season no less.

Side Note:

According to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune, Bears LG Josh Sitton is expected to miss "some time" with an ankle injury.

Looks like either Larsen or Eric Kush will get the nod Thursday against us which is good news because through six games, Sitton owns PFF's third-highest guard grade out of 78 qualifiers. It should be a pretty big blow to the Bears' offensive line.

I would argue that 12 and 52 are on a even shorter leash: they make a ton of money.
Still hoping 12 settles and plays at his level (I really think it's a mental issue with him) but if by the end of the season he's PFFs 30th ranked QB... well... not worth 22/23 million.
52 is non-existent. I had to check the game tape to see if he was playing. He is a waste of money and cap space. Completely overrated.

Shortest leash - both.

Ten years and what? Look at the results since the loss to KC in 2011. Keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

Going into a game with one dinged up running back - are you both out of your minds. What about draft and develop? How many more years before your practice squad guy is ready. Really!

How do you think AR feels about the last five years? Fix the D, fix the D, throw it to DA, throw it to 82, hand it off to fat Eddie, pitch it out to fat Eddie, throw a swing pass to Starks, get rid of Kuhn & Sitton.

I'm a shareholder and 28 years on the season ticket list and this is no fun anymore.

What is the problem, aside from all the CB's injured?

The offensive line has been better than good. It's the passing game.

Has Rodgers lost it? Has Nelson? Does the scheme lack creativity? You saw what the Cowboys did with Beasley and Lucky? That's the type of creativity we don't see in GB.

If change is merited at one (or both) of the two spots, then make a change. I'm attached to the Packers, not the GM or coach. All I'm going to say is that you need to be damn sure that it's necessary when you do it. When you spend most of your time at the top of the league, there's a lot more room to fall than to go up. When you ask for a change, sometimes you get what you ask for...

Nothing will change during this season regardless of GB's final record in January.

TT will retire shortly after the end of the season. The "new GM" will let MM and his staff go and then hire his own people.

I'm hoping to get a call. I'd like to be the person who inflates the footballs for practices and games. (I hear it's over $10 an hour)

Why get proven talent when you need it (CJ Spiller) when you can get a nobody two weeks too late (Knile Davis)...

TT's off-season has proven to be horrendous.

Let me start the rumor.

The Packers will lure Jon Gruden away from ESPN with the Head Coach position immediately after their season ends bringing him back to his roots.

McCarthy would get fired first, but only if the Packers missed the playoffs two seasons in a row, which is doubtful.

Playoff coaches don't get fired. Look at Marv Lewis: been in Cincinnati since 2003, gets bounced from the first round of the playoffs every year, but doesn't get fired.

The issue is not talent, it's coaching. Ted Thompson has done a terrific job building this team through the draft. He frustrates me with his lack of FA involvement sometimes, but would you really want another GM? Look at how many stupid GMs are running teams into the ground right now by spending big money on FAs and making horrible draft picks?

The problem is McCarthy's stubbornness with using the same stale personnel groupings, not holding his QB accountable, not being creative enough on offense, screwing up basic communication, predictable play calling and an arrogance and unwillingness to adapt and change.

I've read that TT has it in his contract that he answers to the Bd of Directors and is not accountable to Murphy. As long as the cash keeps rolling in, the BOD is happy and isn't going to upset the apple cart.

I'm not certain if MM answers only to Ted or if Murphy can pull the trigger on the coach. If It is only TT, then they both have 10 mile long leashes because Ted can never admit his mistakes.

So for anyone thinking they made the correct move at RB vs. CB today, Shields went on the 8 week IR designated to return, but God only knows if he ever will. That means we get a few more games of Gunter, Goodsen and whomever else ISN'T injured and that means TORCHED by just about anyone. They should have gone and got ANY CB they could find that was breathing and had experience, because this is going to get ugly now. Randall and Rollins are both in the rehab program so likely won't play Thursday. As bad as we are on the back end, don't think we can't lose to the Bears because we CAN. This stinks. You could have got by with Jackson and Monty for a week or two, but how in Gods name they plan to survive with that secondary......everyone say a prayer or buy a case of Old Mill...you're gonna need it.

TT has provided players on both sides of the ball. MM has not utilized them as effectively as he could or should have. Check out the OL- all from TT, and some changes in the off-season very possible, and younger players, whose contracts are up, will be re-signed, and at least one veteran let loose. Lacy has been a good addition. Abby and Montgomery play well when allowed . Janis, anyone?

The problem began last year with the embarrassment in Denver. Since then, Rodgers has declined significantly. And who or what is going to stop the tailspin? Apparently, it's being left up to AR himself. And he thinks everything will simply work out. Eventually. Hopefully. Just be patient. Well, it's time to fish or cut bait. In this case, either AR gets some help, or the Packers trade him and move on. He's suffering the same problem Favre had: the inability to accept outside criticism. Until MM came along, and held him accountable.

So, is a new coach the answer? Jim Harbaugh if he would like to return to the NFL? Coughlin? Or is this simply idle speculation, because TT won't fire MM. And the management won't urge him to resign "to spend more time with my family." So, either try another coach, or get rid of AR. Take your choice, and take your chances.

Let's not confuse the issue. The GM's job is to find the best talent he can and get them on the roster. The HC's job is to get the best out of the talent he has been given.

Ted Thompson is responsible for getting Aaron Rodgers on the roster. Is Mike McCarthy getting the best out of the talent he has been given?

Ted Thompson isn't the problem.

Those that say the Packers won't fire MM until TT retires and a new GM is in place might be right. However, what if TT gives the assignment to find a new coach to Wolf. Wolf gets his man in place while TT stays to the end of his contract. When Wolf becomes GM, his man is already there.

Not saying TT has given MM all the tools to win it all, but he has given him enough to have fared better than we have over the last few years.

With that said, I do not see TT canning MM so he has to unfortunately go first. I would gladly go with Wolf and Gruden. I still believe we won in 2010 because we had an awesome D and Rodgers, and while MM is to be commended for holding team and locker room together that year, I feel we won in spite of MM on several occasions and the Super Bowl as well. And yes I felt in 2007 MM played a big part in losing to NY

Now w/o Shields and the other top two guys w/ groin issues....there aren't any (or many) CBs that can come into Green Bay and start over what they have currently on the roster. So I'm think w/ Rodgers in his swan dive condition, the Pack is an 8-8 team. If Rodgers can get himself on the plus side of that 100 QBR, then they will make the playoffs. Either way, Clements and QB coach are gone. IMHO

After reading all of these posts, it seems apparent that as long as the MM/TT team keeps making the playoffs, their jobs are secure. Such a shame to have two HOF QB's back to back and only have two SB rings in twenty years of effort. Belicheck has been much more efficient with his time with Tom Terrific.

After watching the last few games, I don't think TT or MM ever threw the football. Short leash?

"While Aaron Rodgers continues to miss textbook throws that he would've completed in his sleep two years ago..."