Packers play starters for some reason in loss to Lions

Aaron gives his gut reactions to the Packers loss to the Lions. 

  • Congrats to Davante Adams on setting the Packers single season receiving yards record.
  • Great to see David Bahktiari back out there. 
  • I literally have no idea why Aaron Rodgers played in this game.
  • The Lions certainly emptied the playbook. 
  • Nice job by Tipa on the fake punt. 
  • How about the wheels on Josiah Deguara?
  • The Packers played a lot of vanilla on defense. 
  • None of this meant much. 
  • Tough break for Love on both of his interceptions. 
  • Mason Crosby must really hate Ford Field. 
  • Shout out to Patrick Taylor, who really ran hard and put some nice things on tape.
  • Hell of a year from the Packers, who I predicted would go 13-4.
  • Can't wait to see who they play in the Divisional Round. 
  • Go Pack Go. 
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packerbackerjim's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:33 pm

Russ Ball better sharpen his pencil. Need to retain AR and Campbell. And Adams.

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Norm's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:44 pm

They use computers nowadays old man.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:59 pm

Settle down, Norm. Throwing idioms around is harmless, even if they sail over the heads of some folks, but not using commas can kill (let's eat grandma vs let's eat, grandma). Might want to ratchet up your game or choose another hill to die on before you point out the log in someone else's eye.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:22 pm

That was a beautiful bouquet of aphorisms,Leotis. You are a poster who makes me chuckle.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:51 pm

"aphorisms"

I learned a new word today, even though I don't know how to pronounce it.

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cpabandit's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:14 pm

Sounds like an aphorism from some ancient sage, and so it is. ;)

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Packers0808's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:19 pm

Not everyone does by a long shot, Bucko!

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MarkinMadison's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:05 pm

Let's wait until we see if they win a Super Bowl first. Then see if Rodgers is serious about riding off into the sunset or not. Then we will see what is realistic. Because if this group can't win the Super Bowl this year, and if Rodgers and Adams both want top dollar to stay, then what makes us think that they can win a Super Bowl in any year?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:09 pm

THIS^^^

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:33 pm

This year LaFleur and Barry must also out coach opponents not be out planned and out thought as in the last two championship games (the last of which was probably the deciding failing).

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packerbackerjim's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:14 pm

Tonyan. Alexander. Z. Jenkins. Can’t say other injuries won’t occur, but I have to think they would be better with those guys.

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:34 pm

Nice to see Z on the sidelines today.

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johngalt's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:51 pm

Z is over rated

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:34 pm

He's still better than Garvin or Tipa...which means that he can help this team.

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johngalt's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:07 pm

I guess I hear ya. He ain’t worth his pay tho.

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:23 pm

Wholly agree!

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MarkinMadison's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:51 pm

If you keep Rodgers and Adams at top dollar, you will be cutting Z. I'd bet a keg on it.

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marpag1's picture

January 10, 2022 at 01:31 am

With a $28M cap hit next year, the Packers will restructure or cut Za'Darius even if Rodgers and Adams are gone.

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jhtobias's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:35 pm

Can't wait for the Jordan Love in the Comment Section .

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Gopack12's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:16 pm

He sucks what else is there to say

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ImaPayne's picture

January 09, 2022 at 11:28 pm

Why bother, he is not NFL caliber material and we all know it. Hey, he has been on the team 2 years and they really dont let him throw unless he has too. Some confidence they have

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:35 pm

Those tricky Lions and all their tricky trickeration! Where the hell was their fake field goal, huh?

Great to see Bakhtiari not just back, but back and winning (per Larry McCarren).

If you weren’t listening to the radio, were you aware Chandon Sullivan was injured?

The Legend of Jordan Love, Lion Killer will have to wait.

I wish Amari Rodgers would quit taking snaps away from himself.

Found it odd the Packers chose this game to finally ride the Dillon Train.

Taylor had some nice runs and has good hands.

Dean “The Bull” Lowry!

What about the cheap shot on Deguara on the pass over the middle?

Let the games begin. Go Pack Go!

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:49 pm

Refs called this game as if they had a flight to catch. Kept the flags in their pockets and didn't slow it down.

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:00 pm

I can’t say I don’t like that as long as it’s consistent.

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MarkinMadison's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:07 pm

Amari Rodgers did not have a good season. Whatever he eventually turns out to be, this was not a great start.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:24 pm

My advice would be for Amari to live in Davante's pocket and study his release and route running. Amari is short. I don't see much acceleration going from first gear to second. Second to third is okay but he doesn't seem to have a top gear.

Who knows? Perhaps he is just hesitant which makes him look slower than he is.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:39 pm

Excellent point, Tgr. As they say, he who hesitates often looks slower than he is.

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:42 pm

I was thinking Cobb’s but I agree. I did say when he was drafted that I thought it would be a huge step up. He wasn’t a receiver in the true sense and didn’t run a true route tree. He was a guy whom they schemed open in space and then let him run. He was very effectively with the ball in hand.

Unfortunately, he looks slower. He’s not mastered routes and catching in traffic, but I thought he’d be better with ball in hand at least. I can only assume he’s hesitant/lacking the confidence to go full out. I have heard that he’s a guy who needs to be comfortable to perform. If so, best let him do so in the off season and move on this year with Cobb and Moore.

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barutanseijin's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:09 pm

Fast enough to scoot around in college, not fast enough either up or downstairs to get it done in the pros.

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:45 pm

May well be right, though it’s possible he blossoms if things slow for him. Right now, I’d leave him inactive if I could.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:12 pm

His block really helped Deguara on his long TD. He’s had an unfortunate rookie year, but he has stayed on the roster every week. Unlike Myers, who was drafted earlier and missed half the season.

I think that Amari Rodgers is built like an RB and has excellent quickness and speed and will develop into a real threat, but he’s never going to fit that “slot receiver “ mold because that’s not our offense

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:42 pm

I expected him to be an option type only this year, in the Ervin mold. Easier to learn and more like college for him. Apparently the coaches thought otherwise.

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barutanseijin's picture

January 09, 2022 at 10:01 pm

He reminds me of Ty Montgomery. That’s his trajectory if he can stick around NFL rosters

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

January 09, 2022 at 10:36 pm

I think Myers had more snaps in his half season than Rodgers did the entire year.

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SanLobo's picture

January 10, 2022 at 08:47 am

Good news, Green Bay doesn’t lose back to back games.

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:37 pm

Packers played like a team with nothing to gain. LIons played like they wanted to win.

Offense was better playing with Nijman-Runyan-Patrick-Newman-Kelly, but I think that's to be expected when Bakhtiari hasn't played all year and Myers hasn't seen the field in 8+ weeks.

MVS seems to be the only casualty.

Packers need to get their heads on straight for divisional round game.

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:44 pm

Very vanilla D. I don’t think that’s the approach if it matters.

P.S. sounds like Sullivan went out with a knee injury as well.

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Crankbait's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:41 pm

Very vanilla? It's been their defense most of the season. They just are not that strong.

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aimnfires's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:01 pm

hopefully these rookies don't play a down and Bakhtiari starts at LT and Patrick starts at RG. Relying on rookies (Nijman and Newman) in playoff football is a formula for disaster. they have no clue the intensity of playoff football. Not sure what the status of Tuner RT is... but I pray he is ready in 2 weeks.

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NitschkeFromTheGrave's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:44 pm

Reiterating from an earlier post. "LOVE IS NOT THE GUY"
Too much wrong to list.

BTW - Did anyone even hint in his ear "work sidelines"? Even a puddles league 7 year old player would have known.

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egbertsouse's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:46 pm

I hope Guter is scouting some college QBs because Love ain't the answer. He got lucky on a couple throws but he hasn't improved one iota from his days at Utah State. Bad mechanics, bad judgment slow reads and COTY Matt LaFlower isn't helping him any by calling plays like he was AR Jr.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:49 pm

Amazing he doesn't play like a 16-year vet

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Bearmeat's picture

January 09, 2022 at 08:19 pm

The Love hate is unbelievably moronic, isn’t it?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 10, 2022 at 02:03 am

Not to worry, the AR hate is out there, too.

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ImaPayne's picture

January 09, 2022 at 11:30 pm

He just doesnt seem to be too intellegent to me. Weak arm strength too

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Swisch's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:40 pm

Enjoyed the second half much more than the first half.
Jordan Love on his passes was decisive, quick, accurate. He spread the ball around. He ran the LaFleur offense as it's meant to be run. (If he taunted on his run for a two-point conversion, that was immature, though.)
Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams seemed preoccupied with padding their stats in an embarrassing combination of self-indulgence.
How Rodgers can seriously ask his teammates to sacrifice for the playoffs seems a joke. He began the season with a petty holdout that threatened everything, then ended it with it the focus on his personal glory.
I could be way wrong about all this, and would be glad to be wrong.
I'm sad to think that maybe our top two players are just that shallow.

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egbertsouse's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:47 pm

Accurate? You must have watched a different game.

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:51 pm

I watched the Packers. I often wonder if you do.

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Swisch's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:32 pm

Mistake made, post deleted.

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edp1959's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:48 pm

You obviously did not watch this game. Missing two wide open TD passes and back to back interceptions is not decisive and accurate. Your post just proves exactly what you are, a hater. You are in for a miserable 5 more years and I'm going to enjoy laughing at your misery every day.

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:53 pm

As a fan of whom? I’m glad you concede not the Packers, not that it’s a shock to most I’m sure.

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edp1959's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:30 pm

There is no question who I am a fan of...others on here not so sure.

ROCK ON REAL PACKER'S FANS!!!

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:48 pm

A Packers fan would not say “You are in for a miserable 5 more years and I'm going to enjoy laughing at your misery every day.”

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NickPerry's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:47 pm

Don't even waste your time CW... It's just not worth it.

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jurp's picture

January 10, 2022 at 12:47 pm

Given the amount of whining and gloating that he does, he has to be a Vikings fan.

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edp1959's picture

January 10, 2022 at 05:54 am

But you have no problem with trashing the best QB this team has had. Yeah, that's a real Packer's fan. If you are not going to take the time to try and understand what my comment meant then I am not going to bother taking the time to explain it to you.

ROCK ON REAL PACKER'S FANS!!!

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barutanseijin's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:11 pm

Cause that's what a RealPackerFan does, right?

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13TimeChamps's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:52 pm

.

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SanLobo's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:33 pm

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Gopack12's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:23 pm

You are f—-in delusional.. no clue what game you watched…the faster the packers cut bait on love the better.. what a disaster that experiment was

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johngalt's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:54 pm

You’re wrong about most of it

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TheBigCheeze's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:57 pm

What game were YOU watching??...

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SteelyPhil's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:41 pm

I’m not saying that Love is or isn’t the guy, but I haven’t seen much this year that instills much confidence. Hope to be proven wrong!

More relevant to this year - Campbell’s absence was felt.

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Roadrunner23's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:42 pm

👍
Dillon-Taylor
Myers - Bakhtiari
Degura-Lazard
Rodgers-Adams

👍👎

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Roadrunner23's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:43 pm

👍👎
Love - Amari - Winfrey

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Swisch's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:57 pm

The offense with Love-Amari-Winfrey scored more points in the second half than the starters scored in the first half.
Jordan Love led an offense that was effective for 17 points; Aaron Rodgers mostly exalted himself and Davante Adams.
Not running Dillon at the goal line for the first touchdown was the symbol of selfishness that derails teams in the playoffs.
It's a reminder of what happened in the playoffs against the Bucs last season with first down at the 8-yard-line. What we got away with today against the Lions may not fly in the playoffs.
A preference for personal accolades is a huge obstacle to team success.

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HarryHodag's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:20 pm

Don't know what there is to love with Amari other than he shares the name Rodgers. If Gute has a bust from the draft it is Amari.

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Leatherhead's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:05 pm

He's 22 and won't turn 23 until next season. I didn't peak at 22 and it's possible that he hasn't either. All reports about this guy , and his long association with the Cobbs, suggest that he's a guy you win with.

He's had a bad rookie season, no doubt. I would argue he's still had a better rookie season than Myers, who was hurt for a big part of the season.. Stokes has been outstanding, and Newman played when he was the best choice and held his own.

Of the WRs taken in the draft AFTER Amari Rodgers, only one is of note: Amon St. Brown. Other than that, none of the receivers taken after him did much this year. Some of the WRs taken AHEAD of him haven't done much much.

This is a good player. We're lucky to have him.

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jurp's picture

January 10, 2022 at 08:08 am

I didn't peak until my 50s - let's hope Amari hits his peak before that :)

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dekan51's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:06 pm

well, since he is a rookie, it is way too soon to call him a bust...

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Roadrunner23's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:44 pm

👎
Secondary
Tyler Davis
Mason Crosby

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gkarl's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:47 pm

someone needs to teach Savage how to tackle

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barutanseijin's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:12 pm

Does he want to? He reminds me of Ha Ha Clinton-Dix.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:00 pm

Secure another safety with a high pick in May.

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NickPerry's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:49 pm

Savage has 2 weeks to get it figured out. He just hasn't been good this year but of he plays well for the next 12 quarters I don't care.

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Crankbait's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:49 pm

Our secondary is what it is. Mediocre. Goff was definitely on fire and he was not pressured very much. Their starters punched our starters in the mouth.
We had one guy to worry about… Saint Brown… And we couldn't handle him.

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 10:01 pm

Really? You think they lost because of Amon-Ra St. Brown?

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Norm's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:49 pm

If Yosh doesn’t whiff on his block, that long pass to EQSB is likely a touchdown and the whole feel of Love’s performance is changed.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:09 pm

If only ESB continue to run, ball would fall in his hands. Perfectly thrown ball. As it was to AmR on 1st INT.

Love haters will try to place alternative facts, like one guy who tried to made coup with lies seduced people.

Pity...

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edp1959's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:18 pm

That was not a perfectly thrown ball. Olsen explained it very well.

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:47 pm

One has to look at Love on a play by play basis. Amari was culpable for one interception. The other was a desperation toss under pressure as time ran down. Rodgers had thrown similar ones.

Love wasn’t perfect by any means, but I see real progress. Remains to be seen if that continues, but I think the Packers will be encouraged. He’s going through reads and making decisions while playing with all back ups. Winfree fumbled, AmRod dropped and knocked it up to boot. Davis dropped a lovely throw. Yet Love kept us in the game with little help from a D full of backups and playing preseason style vanilla. One can’t argue that Detroit we’re not giving it their all against mostly backups.

Taylor, Daffney and Deguara helped themselves. Dillon looked great. I truly hope Moore is active on game days going forward, for STs and receiving depth. EQ just can’t make an impact. AmRod can, but not the good type. Burks and Yiadom should never appear on D.

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Gopack12's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:00 pm

If we are assessing love as our backup qb for next year and future years then I agree, but to consider him as our starter next year, as some have suggested , that’s a disaster

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HarryHodag's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:19 pm

Ya, Love made mistakes. But I'm not ready to put a final decision on him just yet. The offense moved when he ran the team. As he works more, it will improve. I would like to see him run more, giving the offense another asset.
The 'savior' some of the 'fans' seek is also being viewed by 31 other teams.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:54 pm

"I literally have no idea why Aaron Rodgers played in this game."

What are you talking about? Rodgers and LaFleur said exactly why. Since they are the back to back MVP and The Coach of the Year/Winningest Third Year Coach ever then it might make sense to listen to them.

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dekan51's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:15 pm

"I literally have no idea why Aaron Rodgers played in this game."

I literally have no idea why they would not have played Aaron Rodgers in this game......

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johngalt's picture

January 09, 2022 at 08:26 pm

Agree. They can’t do more of the same and expect different results. Glad they played the 1’s. Keep the rust at bay, don’t fear injuries, play hard, teach savage to tackle, king to catch the frickin ball, and love to keep the Gatorade cold.

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ImaPayne's picture

January 09, 2022 at 11:33 pm

Rodgers like Adams had some statistics to get in. Rodgers was hoping to put a few more tds to his name, the MVP vote is this week. I actually think he wanted to play in the second half to and was over ruled.

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bjkdad44's picture

January 09, 2022 at 03:58 pm

For much of the 2nd half of the year… “The Packers played a lot of vanilla on defense. “

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ImaPayne's picture

January 09, 2022 at 11:34 pm

For much of the year the secondary played the Kazenjammer Kids defense. One that makes zero sence.

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MarkinMadison's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:12 pm

Well, I certainly hope that the MLF coaching staff uses this long bye better than they have their other byes. Self-scout, self-scout, self-scout.

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HarryHodag's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:15 pm

For the Lions this was the Super Bowl.

For the Packers, this was marking time until something real happens.

I knew the moment Jordan Love didn't go 30 for 30 passing with 5 touchdowns and no interceptions that the 'fans' would come out to crucify him. Shame. The kid has some assets. He needs playing reps.
I agree they should find a QB somewhere to compete next training camp.
Oh, by the way, as the Bears, Lions, and many other teams have shown, the next great QB isn't necessarily in the draft. As I recall Love threw a TD today...some must have forgotten that. He was also working with backups at the receiving and backfield positions. Amari Rodgers is awful both as a receiver and kick returner. THAT pick is likely a bust. Him going out of the endzone at the end of the game is a mistake a Pop Warner kid wouldn't make.

Note that the Lions played their starters throughout the game.

The Lions did the Packers defense a favor by running those trick plays. Those plays show tendencies in the defense that another team would have taken advantage of eventually. By playoff time that will be fixed. The defensive secondary looked off today. I think they should have blitzed more as Goff folds easily under pressure.You could tell Campbell was missing today. Barnes is active but he isn't Campbell.

The backup(?) offensive line--the line that's played the majority of snaps this year--did pretty well.

This could be it for Mason Crosby. To many 'yips' this year.

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Gopack12's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:26 pm

I sense you are finally realizing love is not the heir apparent

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:37 pm

I thought Love made more pretty good throws than I've previously seen, even if some weren't completed. CW sees real progress and I thought at the least modest improvement. Not too far apart. His stat line could easily have had another TD and one less INT.

I thought Patrick Taylor looked like he belonged in the NFL.

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:10 pm

I agree TGR. I meant real as in readily discernible, not as in approaching the finished article.

It was good to see Taylor get some real opportunities and capitalize on them. If we lose a back during a game, he is ready help carry the load. Another player they kept around that is showing us why they had patience.

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:34 pm

"I agree they should find a QB somewhere to compete next training camp."

If #12 isn't around, I think they'll bring in 2...a cheap vet and a draft pick.

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Crankbait's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:56 pm

Nothing can or will be fixed on the Defense. If it's not fixed in the regular season how's it going to get fixed in the playoffs against playoff caliber teams?
this defense will not get off the field in the playoffs just like last year. You are going to see our opponents stacking the box and blitzing just like Tampa Bay did to us last year.
I was hoping all season that it would be different, we would be stronger, but it does not appear to be the case.
Let's hope that Rogers plays out of his mind and/or weather is nasty at LF.

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bjkdad44's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:02 pm

Agree 100%

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ImaPayne's picture

January 09, 2022 at 11:37 pm

Any team that comes into Lambeau and doesnt pass pass pass pass and pass some more is foolish. There isnt one QB that didnt see how feeble minded this secondary is and is licking his lips in anticipation of playing us. This is the worst secondary in football.

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jurp's picture

January 10, 2022 at 08:13 am

Yeah, our secondary is so awful that we finished 4-13.

Oh, wait...

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stockholder's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:17 pm

MLF KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DOING. You wanted Love, and you got your Loss. Love can't throw deep. Short throws and Runs, don't stretch the defense. But you know better then Rodgers. Where was the Pocket awareness? Thats what we needed to see. None of this meant much? - Then why the Love for a QB, that should never have been drafted by the packers. In a game like this, you look for player smarts. I didn't see that from Amari Rodgers. And how about a RT that wants to let the inside rusher get a faster track to the QB. Plenty went wrong. And for such a talented athletic secondary. They still need better safety play.

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:41 pm

Before Love took a meaningful snap, Packers were down 11 points. Packers took the lead with 4:49 to go and the defense puked it up.

If you're telling me that Love lost the game and failed to run the offense against a shitty Detroit team, I think you decided what you were going to write here before the game started.

Was he a revelation? No. Was he shit? No.

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stockholder's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:08 pm

Love not only failed when it counted. The Defense sucked when it counted too.

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Qoojo's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:36 pm

Come on Dobber, the defense "only" gave up 37 points. After watching over a decade of some of the shittiest defense ever played, I still marvel when fans go "...but the offense should have been perfect and scored every possession."

Just like "thegreatreynoldo" said in the game thread, "GB QBs have to make two 4th quarter comebacks to win".

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:45 pm

When Abdullah Anderson, Isaac Yiadom, and Henry Black can't hold a lead, what hope is there!?!

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:02 pm

Spot-on, dobber. This loss is squarely on Henry Black's shoulders. Do you have a spare albatross lying around for Yaidom to wear around his neck? I'm giving Anderson a pass because he's a large fellow and it was hot indoors.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 10, 2022 at 02:11 am

LOL. Your take is true enough.

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ImaPayne's picture

January 09, 2022 at 11:42 pm

Where was Gary and our vaunted pass rush. Goeff had all day to pick us apart other then like two times we got to him. He could read his progressions, step into his throws and make things happen.
This secondary scheme is god awful. Does anyone on the planet have any idea what they are suppose to be doing? It hasnt worked all year. A lot of our games were close. We could have been 8-9 just as easy as everyone else.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 10, 2022 at 03:38 am

Well, for your information (NOT ALTERNATIVE FACTS!):

1 Half Aaron Rodgers lost 13:14. With starters! He scored 2 TD!

2 Half Jordan Love's offense scored 17 points! He moved chains better than No 1 offense with players w/o significant snaps during the season. His best throw was long throw to ESB, who will have the ball right in his armful if he just continued to run and not be fooled by defender who was trying to brake the pass. He has nice throw to the end zone for TD if not Davis had stone hands. Beautifully thrown accurate pass! He scored 2 points conversion by his leg, too. And failed another 2 point conversion, because there was AmR again. like he was there for JL INT.

So, what do you want from the guy who basically did not have more than 1 and half game under his belt in NFL (preseason is not counting - that are vanilla O and D games!). You know for certain he is bust?

For me, he showed promise. A good one. If we will trade Jordan Love, Peyton and Saints will grab him and made him our burier for the many seasons.

And if that happens, you'll be the first to claim that you were telling us how that trade was huge mistake!

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splitpea1's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:17 pm

We got out of there unscathed, and that's all that matters.

Davante was smart enough to hit the turf before he could take any nasty shots.

Who needs to end the regular season with momentum, anyway? The 2009 Saints lost their final three games and everything turned out fine for them.

That was a really nice outfit Pam Oliver was wearing. The cameras spent an inordinate amount of time trained on her at the end of the half, but since I didn't have volume where I was at, I have no idea why.

Jordan Love didn't get much help from his receivers at times, save for the Deguara romp. Nice block on that play from Patrick.

Game balls to the RBs and H-Bs.

Defense will hopefully be in playoff form when it's time; trickery won't be so easy then. I don't take much away from this game on either side of the ball--we'll be ready when it matters.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 10, 2022 at 02:14 am

As I understand it, Pam Oliver didn't realize the game was still going on and started to ask LaFleur questions on the sidelines. And he started to answer those questions even though the first half had not yet ended.

I gather the etiquette is to wait for a break in the action to ask head coaches questions, usually during the actual intermission between the first and second halves or before or after the game, but not during it.

It was a pretty nice outfit, I suppose.

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HarlanHuckleby's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:22 pm

I thought the last Love interception was on him, although he’s a young guy gunning for the win. The other was definitely a tough break. Up and down for Love, a lotta good tape to look at.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:58 pm

I agree. That was the first really bad decision I saw him make. I thought he was pretty solid playing with the backups.

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:08 pm

Time fading, needing a TD, we’ve seen Rodgers throw similar balls, this season as well. Understandable in the circumstances if still a mistake. Not going to read much into that either way.

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stockholder's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:25 pm

just stop the comparison. Love is not Rodgers. He's frustration, plain and simple. I told you before the game that the only thing he would do, is hand off and throw short. HE was throwing at the hash marks, and not at the WR. The guy has learned nothing. Can't feel pressure. And is a robot.

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:38 pm

"I told you before the game that the only thing he would do, is hand off and throw short"

Don't you suspect that's exactly what the coaches wanted him to do?

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stockholder's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:50 pm

Yes - If they wanted to eat the clock.

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:55 pm

I’m not comparing the two. But I am comparing reactions in similar circumstances. I remember what you thought of Rodgers … after he was starting, so I take this as predictable.

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stockholder's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:44 pm

Do you remember that from football futures. Because that is where I said it. Brett Favre was pretty special. But Rodgers exceeded everyones opinion. As long as your bringing up the past. MM had called plays for Rodgers to roll out. In fairness to LOVE. No plays were designed to cut the field in 1/2, on throwing situations. MLF system may be to hard for Love. Lets not use wishful thinking. Love is in the NFL NOW. He's suppose to have an arm. He must show it off or Gute drafted the wrong QB.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 10, 2022 at 03:59 am

Wow, you finally understood that Jordan Love is Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers.

BRAVO!

Now, next step for you! To understand that Jordan Love have to find his own way of playing football, as Aaron Rodgers did. Than we will see if he is high or low quality QB. If MLF try to simulate Aaron Rodgers through him, experiment will be failure

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jurp's picture

January 10, 2022 at 12:46 pm

Herbert threw a similar and possibly worse pick while trying to lead the Chargers back against the Raiders. At least Love was under some pressure when he tossed it; Herbert wasn't.

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Minniman's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:01 pm

Yes, I too think that I’m going to need a re-watch of that second half again before I comment on Love’s performance.

Winfree had an up and down game (mainly down).

Same too for Amari Rodgers - he needs to spend the off season training with Cobb and Adams (I remember Adams not settling the world on fire in his first year, so we’ll see).

Taylor had some nice runs. Good YAC.

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Gopack12's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:41 pm

Coldworld , are you actually tryptophan compare love to Rodgers…. Please

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:52 pm

I actually thought he was tyrosine, but that's just me.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 10, 2022 at 02:16 am

After googling these words, what I say is we don't need no stinking neurotransmitters.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 10, 2022 at 04:35 pm

Yeah, man. How do you guys even know you got chromosomes?

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Buckywunder's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:11 pm

It was Davante’s *second* season that fans were after him with long knives — not unlike Jordan Love, actually…

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Gopack12's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:37 pm

That’s all I know is if he is our starting qb next year we would go from have the best starting qb in the NFL to having the worst..

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bjkdad44's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:07 pm

The worst?? Hmmm…

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Gopack12's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:36 pm

The biggest takeaway from today was to another clear confirmation that love is not the answer.. it’s is finally Time to cut bait. Extend Rodgers for as long as he wants to play

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:54 pm

Love is not and never has been the fulcrum of the decision whether Rodgers is QB next year. Try to make more than one point and not repeat it every couple of minutes or take your own advice.

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Gopack12's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:19 pm

This entire season people on this site have been insisting that we should trade Rodgers and go with Love…if is anyone still thinking that is what we should do , then I don’t know what to say

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:59 pm

We may end up without Rodgers, but it’s not because Love is deposing him.

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:53 pm

Don't waste the keystrokes...they don't understand.

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stockholder's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:41 pm

The problem isn't next Year. It isn't LOVE. The problem is now. The problem Now is the Defense. Not Rodgers. Not the OL. Not the WRs. This offense is ready to win. It's the Defense that isn't. They needed Campbell back on the field. And as Much as Z. Smith was brought to GB to win it. He's on his butt, sucking the Tit of the trainer for all it's worth. Thats #2. #3 is Alexander. He's the CB who must get on the field. You just don't replace All-pro CBs. Stoke's has learned. But Savage just hasn't been the same since Alexander left. Alexander will fix the secondary. #4 - This Defense will go just as far as Clark can take them. If You think Lowrey was good today. Thats Great. But the truth is this DL is up and down. And to keep winning you must rotate them. Right , Left and bench them if they "fall down" . Special Teams- we can win with them. Just keep Moore and the speedy guys on them.

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ImaPayne's picture

January 09, 2022 at 11:45 pm

You serious? Did you not watch the game? The biggest takeaway was our secondary cant stop anyone, cant get us off the field and look like the morons they are and will get us killed in the playoffs. One and done again.

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Dancrothers54's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:37 pm

A few thoughts…..
Dan Campbell is a clown! To be 2-15 and run trick play after trick play . Seriously learn to coach ball not coach cute!
I liked what I saw in Love …big ,fast,strong …sadly he didn’t much help especially on his picks
Amari R starting to look like a wasted pick
Savage has regressed
Quit bagging on ARod and DA for stat hunting. We are where we are because of them!
Finally…as someone said, sharpen the pencil and sign guys!
And don’t forget no one got hurt and this game meant zip!

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:43 pm

"Dan Campbell is a clown! "

He is...but he's a clown whose team won today against a disinterested Packers team. You can't do that every week...but they also lost 13 games.

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Dancrothers54's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:48 pm

Nice retort. Kinda I know I am but what are you !?!? 😉 Thanks for reading my comment!

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:43 pm

Ha! Not a poke at you or your comment in any way (by "you can't do that every week" I meant teams can't run toss-backs and fake punts every week) . I live in a Detroit market, and you're right: Campbell is a caricature of a football coach. But the clown owned the big top today...

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Dancrothers54's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:50 pm

😂👍

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NitschkeFromTheGrave's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:59 pm

What? You liked what you saw in Love " What???

One of us was watching a different game.

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Dancrothers54's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:13 pm

Thanks for reading my comment! I appreciate it! Let’s take this approach….what DIDNT you like. , not arguing just curious?

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barutanseijin's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:17 pm

I hate that guy. He's bush league, and if we're lucky, it will bite him ass someday. I would have liked to see the starters in longer just to hang another L on Campbell.

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Buckywunder's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:13 pm

Love Dan Campbell.

He’s just what Detroit needs…

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:05 pm

I've always thought of Campbell as a talking bicep.

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Dancrothers54's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:17 pm

😂😂😂😇💪

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Leatherhead's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:47 pm

Touchdown and Field Goals: Mark in Madison, TGR, Swisch, Leotis.

You guys get it. You (almost) ALWAYS get it.

😎 We got Bakhtiari and Myers back. Does anybody get how much stronger and deeper our line just got?

😀. Love played pretty well right up to the end, protecting the ball, moving the team, and putting points on the board. Without Jones or Adams. I thought it was a good showing, much better than anything Rodgers did in his second season.

🥳I think our RB situation for 2022 is really good.

😀. Lazard is a real good player for us, and it’s a shame that some people can’t/won’t see that.

☹️☹️. The biggest disappointment was when we stopped their fake punt and took over on the Detroit 35 and ended up punting. How does that happen?

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:05 pm

This game was meaningless and, apart from a few on offense, it showed. Didn’t look like much game planning on either side, particularly on D.

Winners: Taylor, Deguara, Daffney and, passively, Campbell (Burks just isn’t good or going to be), Moore, Cobb. Losers: AmRod, Burks, Yiadom.

Crosby can’t be missing extra points. EQ just can’t seem to get himself into a game ever.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 10, 2022 at 04:07 am

"☹️☹️. The biggest disappointment was when we stopped their fake punt and took over on the Detroit 35 and ended up punting. How does that happen?"

I'll try to explain. Our God, Aaron the Diva Rodgers, secret wet dream of Stockholder and few others, underestimated opponent players and sh*t on the artificial grass of Ford Field.

And, I agree with you - just compare - Aaron Rodgers commanded the offense that put 13 points in one half - Jordan Love commanded the offense that put 17 points in other half. Who played better?

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MEO73's picture

January 09, 2022 at 04:59 pm

Love seems to be exactly what he was in college. Two years in the NFL has not changed him. Hope I'm wrong about his development, but after this showing, we're not getting anything in trade for him.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:08 pm

Lions fans here in Michigan are pissed as hell they won and lost out on the #1 pick.

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:11 pm

A game for the coach not the franchise?

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barutanseijin's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:21 pm

And the players. They don't want to lose. The draft means nothing to them but a new crop of draft picks crowding some vets off of the boat.

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dobber's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:57 pm

"Lions fans here in Michigan..."

Wait...you found TWO?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

January 10, 2022 at 02:19 am

And they agreed?

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ImaPayne's picture

January 09, 2022 at 11:54 pm

Wont matter much. This year the diff between one and two are a toss up. There arent any real game changing number one QB's coming out so its defense and some of the names are one or the other variety.
If Gutt had the pick he would pass on most of the top ones unless they can play three positions like Gary does. LOL

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GregC's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:25 pm

Yes, it was a nice job by Tipa Galeai on that fake punt, though the announcers bizarrely refused to acknowledge his effort. They acted like it was simply a drop of an easy pass, but Galeai made it very tough by getting his arms up in the guy's face. The announcers also couldn't get enough of the fact that the Lions actually tried to win the game, even though most teams in that situation do the same. I don't know who they loved more, Lions coach Dan Campbell or sideline reporter Pam Oliver.

Jordan Love was pretty bad again. The interceptions were mostly not his fault, but he didn't do anything special on the TD to Deguara either. The coaches seem to lack confidence in him, as the passing plays were almost all dinking and dunking, and when he did have some chances to throw the ball downfield, he couldn't get the job done. He doesn't look close to being ready to start. If Rodgers leaves, the Packers need to bring in another QB to compete for the starting job--either a high draft pick or a veteran.

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Since'61's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:35 pm

Most important we came through this game without injuries.
Next we have Bak and Myers back and ready for the playoffs.
I expected a vanilla D and that’s what we got.
The point for MLF was to give everyone some reps which he did.
Forget the score, this game was a win for the Packers in what was essentially an exhibition game.
GPG! Thanks, Since ‘61

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GregC's picture

January 09, 2022 at 05:58 pm

No injuries to star players, but MVS and Chandon Sullivan both left the game with injuries.

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Qoojo's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:37 pm

and Sullivan is the starting slot CB, so...

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Since'61's picture

January 09, 2022 at 06:52 pm

GregC I appreciate the update. I only saw parts of the game and did not realize they left due to injury.
Thanks, Since '61

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ckoski's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:09 pm

I know it was a meaningless game, and I shouldn't care, and it sounds petty, but I'm still annoyed by the blatant hold on Garvin right out in the open on the trick pass play. Such a joke.

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Dancrothers54's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:15 pm

Agree …seems like the refs showed up for a mere presence not to officiate!

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Packers0808's picture

January 09, 2022 at 07:20 pm

Seems like we are being censored on here for basically nothing being said bad! Oh well.

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Packerfansupreme's picture

January 09, 2022 at 11:26 pm

I'm convinced no QB can win on this team besides aaron Rodgers and matt Flynn. Prove me wrong Jordan. I'll wait

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croatpackfan's picture

January 10, 2022 at 04:10 am

Patience!

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ImaPayne's picture

January 09, 2022 at 11:51 pm

Better get good and liquored up before the game because you'll need that drink watching a good team beat up on our secondary, They are the achiles heel of this team, have been for years and piss poor drafting of late first round picks have done nothing to improve it.
Your not getting a shut down corner at the end of round one Gutty.
Gary went missing in action again today and was handled most of the day. Most defensive ends who are 12 picks play much better then what he is giving.
Pack are one and done in the playoffs and it wont be pretty in two weeks.

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Harold Drake's picture

January 10, 2022 at 01:20 am

Mr Nagler insists on downplaying Love's poor play as a way of preparing Packers' fans for the possible departure of AR12 next season. Love is terrible! A bust! His release is slow. He makes poor decisions. As long as he doesn't throw three consecutive interceptions Nagler will continue to say that "nobody knows anything." Well, we have some data to examine at this point and there is little to suggest that Love is a worthy successor to Aaron Rodgers. Should the Pack win the SB, every effort should be made to lock in AR12 and DA.

Futher, Nagler refuses to accept the staggeringly obvious when it comes to Amari Rodgers whose play grows worse with every game. Rodgers made another stupid decision to run out a kick at the end of the game and waste precious seconds for absolutely NO reason. He also made a key drop on an easy pass play. The Packers would be better off cutting Rodgers and replacing him with virtually anyone off their practice roster. But God forbid if anyone dares to criticise the play of Love and the other Rodgers. Every Packers' player is untouchable except for JK Scott.

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LeotisHarris's picture

January 10, 2022 at 04:54 pm

Harold, do you think Mr. Nagler's denial is serious enough for us to schedule an Intervention? It's true, he just may be a tool of Big 1265, you know, a useful idiot, but he may also be suffering from a serious malady. Should we act swiftly and kindly or simply tolerate his madness?

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

January 10, 2022 at 02:41 pm

The game against the Lions was unfortunate as it had zero value to the GBP's. I do not think the players were all that motivated and focused, and the defense played soft/vanilla. There just wasn't that killer instinct!

Watching Bachtiari and Myers come back and get some playing time in was a wonderful tune-up to start integrating them back into the lineup for the playoffs. Lot of work remaining for them to be game day ready!

We ALL know that whoever is coming to play QB after Aaron Rodgers it is going to be a tough pill to swallow with Rodgers being a generational type player. Doesn't matter if it is Jordan Love or some future high QB draft choice. Change almost seems inevitable this offseason unless you want a totally gutted team (shell of itself) just to have ARod back. Personally, I find those rabid & extremely emotional fans of ARod on here who want him back even if it is detrimental to the long-term growth and success of the Packers interesting. I am a fan of the GBP's first and foremost. Players come and players go! While a fan of ARod at the end of the day I only care about the success of the GBP's. If ARod needs to go from a financial perspective and the GBP's are able to get a number of young quality players/draft choices than so be it. For it to be any other way makes zero sense!

The trick plays were nauseating but going to assume some of that was simply the Packers were playing a non-important game (at least the 2nd trick play). Patrick Taylor has been a player I have been anxiously wanting to see and truthfully he reminds me a lot of Dillion with how he looks and plays. Patrick is a starter type RB in the league and on the same level as J. Williams in Detroit. The Packers have the best combination of running backs I have ever seen over the years with Dillon, Jones, Taylor, and the forgotten Kylin Hill who I think has a lot of similarities to Jones. Can't wait to see him back and healthy for year 2.

Unlike some of the emotional Rodger fans on here I have been watching Jordan Love (who it has been well documented he is a very raw QB) grow this year. Last year, was an almost wasted/lost year for Jordan. Unfortunately he gets hurt in pre-season this year when Nijman missed a pass rusher. Then he had covid during the season where he could have played in another game. He unfortunately has missed opportunities that have been out of his control. With that being said, I have been watching Love closely and I am seeing nothing but improvement and growth this year in the limited times he has played. That is what one looks for with a young and raw QB. Have no idea in the long-term how good Love will become but being that he just turned 23-years old 6 weeks ago Jordan Love will be in the NFL for the next 12-18 years. Anyone who does not believe he is going to become a very good QB during his career with an upward trajectory is ridiculous. The guy has lots of talent and the only ones throwing him under the bus are emotional ARod fans who are simply afraid Rodgers will be gone after this season. Whether ARod stays or goes after this season I have no doubt the Packer organization has thought this decision out as well as it can be done. In the perfect situation ARod wins the league MVP this year and helps the GBP win the SB. Then Gutey trades him and Adams (franchise tag) to another team for a plethora of draft choices and young talented players including someone like Drew Lock to compete with Love. The Packers have a lot of very good building blocks already to surround Jordan Love should they want to go that direction. They have a 1st class OL with a lot of young but experienced players to go with Jenkins, Nijman, and Bachtiari. They have possibly the strongest RB group the team has had in 50-years with Jones, Dillion, Taylor, and Hill. They have a very good TE group should they resign Tonyan and with his injury I believe they may be able to do. My guess is the Packers would not only receive at least one young talented WR in a trade for ARod, but they would likely take one or two WRs in either Round 1 thru Round 3 in 2022 with the extra draft choices. Should they do this the Packers are restocked on offense and will be an offensive powerhouse as Jordan grows into his starting QB role. The downside will once again be the defense and trying to restock the talent on that side of the ball. The Pack needs another stud on the DL, and at least one and preferable two OLB's. A lot will hinge on whether the Packers can retain Jaire, Preston, Amos, Campbell, and Douglas. If they can retain those players to go with a few extra draft choices and a young defensive player from another team with any Gutey luck this team might slip into the playoffs in 2022, or in 2023 be a strong contender. For now let's win a SB with Rodgers at the helm but let's restructure the team with either Jordan Love or another QB under center in 2022.

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