Packers: 21 Falcons: 44 The Good, Bad and Ugly

Jared Cook, Jordy Nelson, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix

Injuries Plaguing This Team, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Ripkowski

Pass Defense, Another Year of Postseason Heartbreak

 

 

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KenEllis's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:25 pm

Good = Jordy, TJ Lang playing despite injuries.

Bad = All the injuries.

Ugly = 36.3. The average number of points Dom's D has given up in 7 playoff losses since 2009. The players may change, but the longest-tenured DC in the NFL just keeps plugging along with ugly loss after ugly loss in the playoffs

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:25 pm

I'm more than ready for Dom to go bye bye.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

January 22, 2017 at 10:20 pm

I don't think Dom was given enough talent but I also think that Dom's record otherwise just isn't good enough. I'd really like the Packers to try something different. A simpler faster scheme.

In the last 6 years the Packers have ranked in total defense yards 22, 15, 15, 25, 11, 32; which is an mean average of 20. My question is, if McCarthy had averaged the 20th ranked offense would he still be HC? I think not. In fact I would say, definitely not.

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cheddarhead's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:44 pm

There is only uglyness. Sorry.

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fthisJack's picture

January 23, 2017 at 06:53 am

why is rodgers in the bad????? that is ridiculous.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 08:03 am

Exactly. Has to be a error.

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ZacharyJacobson's picture

January 23, 2017 at 12:23 pm

Not an error. He just wasn't good.

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dobber's picture

January 24, 2017 at 08:45 am

But was his performance really a BAD one, or was it just not the dominating, 400-yard passing day that they needed to stay in this game? It wasn't GOOD in that regard, but it certainly didn't qualify as BAD, either. If the criterion you're using truly fits, then there should've been about 40 names in the bad column.

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ZacharyJacobson's picture

January 24, 2017 at 07:35 pm

Aaron Rodgers is the centerpiece of the franchise. You expect him to perform well. You expect him to engineer some kind of efficiency with that offense much like he's been doing the last two months. That's why his performance stood out and qualified to be under 'bad.'
He completed less than 50 percent of his passes, had 3 late/garbage time touchdowns and an interception. And that's just the box score. On film, he missed A LOT of throws, was throwing low at his receivers or couldn't hit them in stride. He played a very bad game.
I'm always a huge defender of QB1, but there's nothing to excuse here. Especially not in an NFC title game.

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dobber's picture

January 24, 2017 at 09:59 pm

The guy also essentially outrushed the rest of the team combined (showing real grit on a couple of those runs), was consistently pressured, and took some punishing hits. If the only way for him to not land in the bad column was for him to put the team on his back an carry them, and in a game of nearly zero support team-wide, the bar seems set almost unsupportably high.

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:25 pm

G: Nelson, Cook, Cobb
B: The entire defense, Randall especially, Gunter especially
U: The execution on offense. Oh and Arod not finishing the game. WEAK.

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NickPerry's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:38 pm

I don't know Bearmeat. I was glad MM took him out. EVERY TIME the Packers scored a TD in the 2nd half Ryan took them 80 yards in 5 plays afterwards. He was running, not sliding, really playing reckless down by an impossible amount to overcome. I know he's supposed to give 110% and didn't play well, but NO WAY am i blaming Rodgers for this, the Packers aren't even 8-8- this year without Rodgers. The Packers shot themselves in the foot in the first 2 drives and were down 17. Had Rip not fumbled I don't think it would have mattered a bit, not with the Packers defense.

Some changes are obviously have to come this offseason. Not even Mike McCarthy and his unwavering loyalty will save Capers this year. If Capers is the DC next season, then I question EVERYBODY starting with Murphy.

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:43 pm

I'm not blaming Rodgers. Nor am I blaming MM. I'm just saying - this was the NFC CG! There IS no tomorrow. If you don't want to risk getting hurt, throw the ball. Don't take yourself out.

And there is no chance Capers is not the DC next year. As much as you and I hate it, the defense went to crap the minute Shields got hurt in week 1. Capers held it together to mediocre. This was probably his 2nd best personal coaching job (other than 2014) since 2010 - which is not saying much. I think that's enough to make him gone. But TT/MM won't.

Man. I hope TT retires.

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NickPerry's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:55 pm

I get your point Buddy. It really blows to end a season like this. Shields injury hurt a lot no doubt about it.

I really think there's something to both Wolf and Gutekunst both withdrawing from the 49ers Job, like Thompson stepping down from GM Duties. There's SOMETHING going on in that front office, at least that's my professional "Fan's Opinion". ..LOL...

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:26 pm

Man, I hope so.

HOW is it possible to be THIS good for THIS long and ONLY have 2 titles?

Please retire Ted. Get your place in the Packers HOF and sit at home as a mid level part time scout in Texas. GB will pay you 7 figures to do it, I'm sure.

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pooch's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:02 pm

Sheilds is a pass rusher???,,

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fthisJack's picture

January 23, 2017 at 07:00 am

Capers needs to pack his bags. sure he had injuries to deal with this year....what about the last 10 years? they have never been a top defense since he's been DC even with decent personel. 4th and 26...Philadelphia. Major meltdown in 2014 against Seattle when we were SB bound. just to name a few. make him retire already.

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NickPerry's picture

January 23, 2017 at 07:28 am

Ummm.. Capers wasn't the DC in the 4th and 26 game. Alson Capers was excellent his first 2 seasons in GB finishing both with a Top 5 defense i believe. BUT like his entire career, Capers defenses go to the outhouse by year 3 and never come out. After 2012 is when Capers should have been fired and absolutely after 2014.

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NickPerry's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:25 pm

The Good... An offense that was able to bring back a 4-6 team and make it to the NFC Championship. Even WITH Dom Capers still the DC!

The Bad... Cow coming here ON Game Day after the loss. In one comment he said TT didn't have the sack to make a trade to move up in the 1st round.

Kettle meet Black..... Cow didn't have the sack to show up on Sundays for 2 weeks in a row after the Giants and Cowboys win. It shows EXACTLY what kind of person Cow is. He loves to stick it to people when their down. That's just weak and pathetic.

The Ugly... Dom Capers. We knew going in the Packers were going to have to score 30 to 40 points to POSSIBLY win. First of all what KIND of defense is that? I refuse to believe the 30 draft choices Thompson has drafted since 2010 are ALL this bad. Capers is a horrible coach. Period end of story. The shot of him sitting up in the booth looking like he was watching TV made me sick!!

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:27 pm

Al banned Stroh several times. (even though he keeps coming back under other names).

Al banned Trumps.

Al should ban Cow. We are all SO tired of his crap.

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JerseyAl's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:51 pm

"Kettle meet Black..... Cow didn't have the sack to show up on Sundays for 2 weeks in a row after the Giants and Cowboys win. It shows EXACTLY what kind of person Cow is. He loves to stick it to people when their down. That's just weak and pathetic."

This is why I'm done with Cow's act. I don't mind negative comments as part of the overall discussion, but to only show up when things are bad and pat yourself on the back for your negativity? The act has grown tired.

What's a shame is the guy is capable of informed commentary, but the ridiculous statements he makes with no basis in fact (like Montgomery would never play another down in the NFL, etc.) are just stinky, smelly hot air. And I don't want to breathe in that shit.

He's blocked (not banned) for now.

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NickPerry's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:57 pm

Thank you Al!! It' bad enough we got whooped, we don't need to have "Cheap Shots" thrown too.

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:58 pm

Thank you. Please make it permanent soon. CHTV was better without him.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:07 pm

Al, you're blocking him on his favorite day of the year - that's cruel!

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:15 pm

lol

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JerseyAl's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:50 pm

It's like taking away his Christmas present. Cruel and unusual punishment. And well deserved.

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Spock's picture

January 23, 2017 at 12:16 am

^^^^YAY^^^ (But I'm hoping for banned :) )

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cheddarhead's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:49 pm

COW lives only to say I told u so. I don't think he roots for them to win. I bet he just was hoping they would lose, so he can say i told u so. Not a real fan in my book.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 08:46 pm

Not ranting because I do prefer to look at the positives to this year's run, BUT...

The D needs to be overhauled. As for Capers, I have felt and said for years that this team needs a DC that is coaching on the sidelines. Encouraging , scolding, motivating them in game. A veteran well oiled D this is not. Where are the vocal team leaders, other than Daniels, that this young developing group clearly needs. Add all that with a skybox DC approach just has never made any sense to me.

MM adjusted this year, so why not the rest.

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fthisJack's picture

January 23, 2017 at 07:07 am

don't you think that Capers has failed long enough. he cost this team a trip to the SB in 2014. that should have been enough to get rid of him.

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Lphill's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:36 pm

The good , the Green Bay Packers making a nice push with half the team hurt .
The bad TED THOMPSON for not doing enough to shore up the defense , I no longer blame Capers , he did what he could with who TT gave him.

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NickPerry's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:44 pm

So all of the 30 players Thompson has selected since 2010 are THIS bad?? I'm there with you, Thompson or someone HAS to do more to help this club. But Capers is a dinosaur, his defense have been HORRIBLE for 6 years. If he had a few good years in there that's one thing, he's been pretty bad.

I had heard Thompson might step aside depending how far the Packers got. With Wolf and Gutekunst both resigned, I think this might be the offseason he does it.

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Mojo's picture

January 23, 2017 at 12:09 am

Agree Nick

Capers is an intelligent defensive coordinator with a library's worth of schemes and concepts. Unfortunately, his players aren't equally equipped. It would be interesting how often they don't follow his instructions most likely unintentionally. I get the feeling his concepts are too complicated for his secondary to follow, Burnett and Hyde are OK, but the rest seem to be out of position time and again. Maybe less zone and more man would uncomplicate things. The bend but don't break philosophy has morphed into bend and then break.

As far a TT, I wouldn't be surprised if he moved on. Insiders say he's still heavily involved, but he appears out of it to me. I don't know if that's really the case but walking around open mouthed and mumbling all the time don't engender confidence.

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NickPerry's picture

January 23, 2017 at 05:51 am

@ Mojo... I had read somewhere and I wish I could remember where that Thompson might step aside this season to a Sr. Scout position depending how far the Packers got in the playoffs. It also said mentioned the Packers didn't necessarily have to reach the SB for this do happen.
That's why I think the the Packers retaining both Wolf and Gutekunst is so interesting.

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Since'61's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:42 pm

The Good: Jordy Nelson, Aaron Rodgers, TJ Lang, J. Cook,
The Bad: Dropped passes, Rip's fumble, injuries to Hyde and Brice.
The Ugly: The entire defense including Capers. No one made a play during the entire game. No CM3, No Perry, No Daniels, NO Peppers nothing. CBs not even in the game. Capers no plan, no answers and no clue, yet again.

I understand that Capers doesn't have the best talent to work with especially at CB but giving up easy scores on 7 of 8 possessions is inexcusable. Almost every pass was uncontested, players unable to hold onto picks, terrible tackling, no pass rush, literally nothing on defense. I'm not advocating firing Capers just to fire him but after a performance like this, it's time for a change. Bring in a new DC with a fresh approach for the defense and yes, get him some decent players. Since we'll be drafting at #29, we should sign a FA or 2 (heaven forbid) and get some experience at pass rusher and CB. Thanks, Since '61

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NickPerry's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:48 pm

After that TD run by Ryan in the 2nd quarter to make it 17-0 I think it was, to me the defense just gave up. Matt Ryan is pretty slow. There was no hustle, no energy, no nothing really. It looked like they quit right there.

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Since'61's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:53 pm

Nick - that run by Ryan was ugly but I hate to think they quit. I think they were over matched, their DC had no answers, and the injuries and 16 straight games (8 of them elimination games) all caught up with them. Plus they need better players and a new approach for the defense. Retire Capers and bring in a new DC with some fresh thinking. Get some FAs to provide experience while the young defenders and draftees develop. Time for a change. Thanks, Since '61

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NickPerry's picture

January 23, 2017 at 05:59 am

Good point, especially the injuries and a new approach. A week 3 Bye followed by 17 games, they just ran out of gas. I hate to think they quit too, but Ryan is pretty slow and the Packers had some defenders in front of Ryan who just didn't seem to try and tackle him. In the AFC game the Steelers TE caught a pass and ran towards the end zone. It was ruled a TD at first but after review they put the ball at the 1/2 yard line..NO TD. It was because 2 NE defenders both hit the 6'6" TE right at the goal line..hustle.

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fthisJack's picture

January 23, 2017 at 07:20 am

this is the worst tackling defense in the league i would argue. the tire tackling must not have helped. that is one big area they need to fix.

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NickPerry's picture

January 23, 2017 at 07:31 am

Good point. Jezz the Packers defenders continue to hit the player without wrapping up. It's like they don't have arms or something, everything is a shot with a shoulder.

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tm_inter's picture

January 23, 2017 at 05:22 pm

Rugby players are experts of tackling in open field. The Packers should consider hiring good rugby tacklers to teach tackling basics to all Packers players at training camp every year.

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GVPacker's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:52 pm

I've had enough of the 3-4 defense, I don't think it's a good fit with the "Draft And Develop" program. It's too complicated for young players to grasp. It's time to go back to the 4-3 with a new DC!

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Mojo's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:52 pm

Amen '61

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4thand1's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:57 pm

We did see some innovative blitz's up the middle that were picked up. same ol same ol. The Patriots are destroying the Steelers.

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JerseyAl's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:53 pm

yOU'RE WAY OFF BASE ABOUT dANIELS. hE WAS THE ONLY PERSON TO EVEN COME CLOSE TO PRESSUING rYAN, AND THAT'S NOT EVEN HIS MAIN JOB. aND HE WAS A BEAST AGAINST THE RUN AS USUAL. dANIELS BRINGS IT EVERY PLAY. dON'T EVER DOUBT THAT.

sorry for the caps - didn't want to retype it...

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Since'61's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:58 pm

Al - I appreciate your points about Daniels. I like Daniels and I think he is a good player and yes he made some plays against the run today but the plays he made didn't have an impact on the game. We needed some impact plays today and we didn't get any. I'm not knocking Daniels, I'm just saying he and the rest of our alleged defensive leaders did not stand out at all today. Thanks, Since '61

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fthisJack's picture

January 23, 2017 at 07:26 am

our blitzes never get home. Atlanta brought 45 up the middle untouched for a sack on Rodgers. that was a critical 3rd down play. also the last 2 teams we beat brought corner blitzes that worked for sacks. Capers very very rarely brings corner or safety blitzes. we need new blood at the DC spot.

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Mojo's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:51 pm

Can't figure out why Arod's in the bad. He didn't fumble or miss the FG. I actually though he played pretty well. Showed determination even after taking some hellacious hits.

Good - Jordy, Cook and a number of players who kept going despite significant injuries.

Bad - Just about everyone on D.

Ugly - Nearly everything after the opening kick-off.

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4thand1's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:01 pm

Matbe they didn't like the 55 yard punt. AR did what he could do. No running at all, he was the leading rusher with 46 yards.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:10 pm

Yeah, some of his throws were a little off, so he wasn't quite at the magical level that he had been recently, but he was nowhere near being bad. Considering the circumstances, I thought he was borderline good. Some of those scoring drives required some clutch throws on third and fourth down.

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Charvid's picture

January 22, 2017 at 07:59 pm

"Another year of postseason heartbreak"...

I don't think I can agree with this. Am I disappointed in the loss? Of Course. A trip to the Super Bowl would have been awesome. But we were treated to a home playoff game --a convincing beating of the Giants. Then, we went into Dallas and we're treated to one of the all time great playoff games ever and a walk-off win on the Road. Yes, we shit the bed in Atlanta and this game was tough, but we had an epic run with half our team. I'd say we had a pretty good postseason.

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stockholder's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:05 pm

Good: Everyone trying to get on the field after such a week full of question marks. Bad: Blow out. Ugly: The officials , holding etc. !!!.

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Colin_C's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:19 pm

Why is Ha Ha in the good? He's really done nothing this season (this game included). I know he got a Pro bowl nod, but I'm not impressed with his play recently. Maybe it's just a result of trying to cover the CB ineptness, but to me he needs to step it up next year.

If anyone wants to watch the game again, tune into the AFC Championship. Pretty much the same deal. Steelers fan are lamenting their lack of good EDGE and CB guys.

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MarkinMadison's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:35 pm

Good: Nelson, Burnett, Adams, Rodgers, Bakh and any I forgot who showed up and played despite having the flu or injuries this week.

Bad: Crosby for breaking his streak on what should have been an easy FG (I did question his accuracy this past week and was told by several I was nuts); Cook for multiple drops; Rip for the fumble, and pretty much every cornerback who played today.

Ugly: The lack of any pass rush at all for the last two weeks. Blame Dom, blame CM3, blame Peppers, blame Perry. I don't care. It didn't get done.

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NickPerry's picture

January 23, 2017 at 06:06 am

Perry was still our leader in sacks the last few weeks, even with that club on his hand. I hope they keep Perry, he's a player the Packers could keep with any DC they were to bring in, 3-4 or 4-3.

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MarkinMadison's picture

January 23, 2017 at 08:06 am

Agreed.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 08:12 am

Perry for Perry!

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GVPacker's picture

January 23, 2017 at 08:36 am

Nick I agree, keeping Perry is a must! This defense is short on playmakers and he's one of them.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2017 at 10:59 am

They can't afford to replace every edge rusher on the roster, and he's at least a solid (although not spectacular) piece.

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Bert's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:39 pm

The Good - Nice bounce back from a 4-6 start to the NFC Championship game.

The Bad - The NFC Championship game.

The Ugly - The overall play of the defense. Again. And again...........Just not championship caliber talent on defense.

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lebowski's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:42 pm

I think this game screamed for a 'Good, Bad, Fugly' twist. Here's hoping we can get the D fixed for next season.

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lebowski's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:42 pm

I think this game screamed for a 'Good, Bad, Fugly' twist. Here's hoping we can get the D fixed for next season.

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Handsback's picture

January 22, 2017 at 08:46 pm

Fire Capers! Fire MM! Fire TT! The fact is this year may be the best coaching job MM and DC has done in a season. If you want to fire DC, did you really look at who was playing as DBs?
Did you see who ended up playing guard in the last series?
I said before the game...Green Bay had no margin for error if they were going to win. Missed FG and fumble pretty much took them out of the game. Wasn't why they lost, but took them out so they couldn't catch-up and make Atlanta play chase.
Every year the Packers are racked with injuries. People harp on the 49er game in Green Bay , the Pack barely lost and my memory of a one good leg rookie FA DE converted to OLB chasing Kapernick around the field. It was sad and frustarating as a fan. Against Seattle, Green Bay had the lead most of the game and most everyone was healthy, except for Rodgers hoping on one leg. This year I wondered if janis was going to have to play CB at the end against the Falcons. I don't understand the injuries, but I'm not pointing fingers at DC, and MM for a lousy season. This was a great year. No SB, but one heck of a ride.
Green Bay needs to replace Shields and add another good solid CB beyound that. They also need two new pass rushers, either DEs or OLBs but people that need to be double teamed. Another TE, and WR would help, but those are always added in the draft. The last thing they need is depth on the Oline.
Maybe FAs will have to be added for the pass rushers and reserve CB, because Rollins and Randell were either playing hurt or ignoring their principles from their coach.
I hate how poorly they played, but there was not enough tslent on the field to win that game.

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tm_inter's picture

January 23, 2017 at 05:42 pm

I also thought about Janis playing CB since he was not used as receiver. After all, he was taller, faster, and better with hands than all our CBs who just couldn't defend against passes.

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4zone's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:02 pm

The Good - This season's misery is over.
The Bad - Getting Woodsheded
The Ugly - The prospect of another 2 years of Draft & Develop

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Bearmeat's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:09 pm

I wouldn't call this season "misery." When we were 4-6, that was misery. But that run against some of the best teams in the NFL was one I'll never forget.

We just ran into a team who had their best day and we had our worst today. If that game was played 10 times, we'd probably win 4. All the bounces went ATLs way.

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4zone's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:28 pm

The 'misery' is in reference to all the injuries.

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Rossonero's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:19 pm

Here are my thoughts:

1. Little things add up to big things.

I say that because, had the Packers won any of the very winnable games during that 4 game losing streak vs. the Falcons, Colts, Titans or Redskins, then this game would've been at Lambeau. (The Falcons finished 11-5 and we were 10-6).

2. In Defense of Dom Capers.

What do you expect him to do? Climb out of the press box and start covering guys? He's doing the best with the players he's been given -- that's a roster issue. LaDarius Gunter runs a 4.7 40 yard dash, he's not going to run faster even if Lombardi's ghost was the defensive coordinator tonight. Our secondary is what it is.

3. This game was a period to a sentence the Packers have been writing all season.

We knew the secondary was bad. Rodgers, like any other franchise QB, masks a teams flaws. We got torched vs. the Colts, Titans, Redskins and Falcons during that losing streak. We were ranked 31st for pass defense for a reason. I don't know about other fans, but as the past week went on, I felt more and more nervous about this game. Matty Ice was on fire just like Rodgers and they have health on their side. We never seem to have that and as much grit and toughness as this team has, it was too much to overcome.

4. Some people say the roster is horrible, I disagree.

The secondary is horrible, yes, but being 4-6 and making it to the NFC championship game is a testament to the coaching and depth we have at other positions (not cornerback).

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4zone's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:33 pm

Sorry, but this Defense is a shambles. No pass rush whatsoever. No cover skills whatsoever. No real running game.... If AR goes down, this team is 8-8 at best. We need players around AR that can get it done in his absence. Cause it's only a matter of time before he gets knocked out again for a major part if not all of a season.

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Free agent's picture

January 22, 2017 at 10:16 pm

8-8 Without Rodgers? How? Try 4-12 , at best.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2017 at 10:58 am

True, but find a playoff team with an elite QB that is still a playoff team without the elite QB? They're few and far between.

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pooch's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:12 pm

So your praying Ted is active in F. A. ..goog luck with that,hasnt done nothing for 7 years

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mrtundra's picture

January 23, 2017 at 09:45 am

I'm thinking TT steps down and takes that Scouting job and EWolf takes over at GM. Wolf's attitude on FA may be a lot different than TT's was and his Draft board could be a lot different, as well. We could use a veteran FA somewhere on this team. We need speedy CBs. Randall's groin injury had to affect his speed and movement in coverage. Let him get healthy and we'll see a difference, IMO. Will Capers be gone? Who knows? One thing, for sure, is that this off season will be very interesting, to say the least.

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egbertsouse's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:39 pm

I'm not a Capers fan but the real problem is TT. He whiffs on too many high picks, isn't a player in free agency (even when his minor pick-ups work), and leaves this team with a talent deficit when compared to other playoff-caliber teams. Since we have ARod we win a couple of games we shouldn't against more talented teams but it comes crashing down in the end. I hope we eventually get a GM who concentrate on obtaining the necessary talent instead of galavanting around the country scouting Moorhead State and Wesley games.

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Mojo's picture

January 22, 2017 at 11:42 pm

... and I'd like to add something that I thought would get more play about TT. A few weeks ago one of McGInns reliable sources stated that Eliot Wolf was a bit steamed at TT for passing on a couple of FA opportunities last off-season. Bet he's not the only one in the front office thinking that way.

Somethings going to change this off-season. I think a number of GB brass will express the desire to be more proactive in player procurement. Even Ted might realize time is running out. I don't expect Ted to go after the big names, but I do think he'll take a splash in the mid-level FA pond. That's if Ted's still here.

I think it's a possibility Ted moves on altogether. He's got to feel the vibe of disenchantment with the post-season failures and the angst of the younger guys clipping at his heals. He's a classy guy who wouldn't stay in place where he isn't wanted, It wouldn't shock me if he took a some type of scouting job.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2017 at 10:57 am

TT relies on scouts to make his calls on players...and on his personnel evaluation folks (ahem, Wolf and Gutekunst) and their recommendations. The buck ultimately stops at TTs feet, but who is whispering in his ear? Wolf and Gutekunst? Think about that when criticizing personnel moves (or lack thereof).

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MarkinMadison's picture

January 22, 2017 at 09:48 pm

Stephon Gilmore's contract with Buffalo is up. Just sayin.

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NickPerry's picture

January 23, 2017 at 06:13 am

NOW you're talking. He'd be pricey but he's a hell of a CB. Though I'd hate to sign Gilmore only to pair him with Capers. I think changes are coming in the next week to 10 days. To bad Phillips and Bradley already signed on as DC's.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2017 at 10:54 am

There are good DC options out there, yet. Many are positional coaches, but there are options.

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tm_inter's picture

January 23, 2017 at 06:03 pm

Gilmore is big and fast. He can replace Shields and take his salary plus some more if necessary. Another FA could be added to compete with our existing CBs.

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febnyc's picture

January 22, 2017 at 10:07 pm

Being successful by finishing in the top four for too many years is unacceptable. Mark Murphy cannot use the excuse that the club is making money. He must along with us angry fans admit that the current philosophy of building only through the draft has not worked (Has it Ted?) We need a GM who can deliver players however necessary, by whatever means to win the SB - otherwise the remarkable talents of AR are only partially fulfilled. Mark Murphy - be a man and fire wacko Ted Thompson's ASS!

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croatpackfan's picture

January 23, 2017 at 04:47 am

Oh, again philosophy all in one run, than 10 -15 years of cleaning the salary cap mess while others have winning records... Yeah, good plan!

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2017 at 10:52 am

"Being successful by finishing in the top four for too many years is unacceptable."

I can't tell if your tongue is firmly planted in your cheek with that opening statement or not. Clearly the later statements say, no.

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Free agent's picture

January 22, 2017 at 10:13 pm

Clinton-Dix in good catagory? What plays did he make today? Cook played okay- had 2 drops. Rodgers in the bad category. Really, He was playing his ass off; Made great throws across his body and took on defenders running up the middle of the field for first downs. Not to mention he was taking multiple full speed shots from blitzing Falcons and popped right back up. Rodgers was the best Packer player on the field today.

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Denise Chanterelle's picture

January 22, 2017 at 10:20 pm

Thunderboy is correct. Dom should be down on the sidelines with his defense, not holed-up in the press box. I've never liked that arrangement and still don't. What kind of message does that send to a player? Remember the passion Kevin Greene displayed on the sideline? That's what we need again!! I say give Dom a choice; come down from the PB and embrace your players good & bad, or take a hike. It's really ludicrous for Dom to be so absent during a game.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 23, 2017 at 05:02 am

I'm sure Gunter would run much faster if Dom Capers was on thze sidelines. As well as Clay will surely forgot his shoulder and made plays we all remember... Good!

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al bundy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 10:06 am

Caly hasnt has a good year since Jenkins left for free agency. Jenkins chased QB's into Mathews arms all season making him look like super man. Downhill ever since. and Ted paid him the farm that kept money from being spend on free agnets.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 08:15 am

Thank you. Another voice in the wilderness. I'm not alone

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Dzehren's picture

January 22, 2017 at 10:27 pm

Pack were flu sick- too many injuries- need. A 60 day break- run the table was fun- rebuild the secondary- next year is r yr thanks everyone

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RCPackerFan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 10:30 pm

Since there was really nothing good to talk about this game I am doing a seasons good, bad, ugly.

Good:
-making the NFC Championship game, especially after being 4-6 at one point. -After 4-6 they won 8 straight.
-Rodgers came back, as did Nelson
-Emergence of Adams
-Signing of Cook.
-Young players took a step this year, Adams, Montgomery, Allison, Ryan, Thomas, Clinton-Dix
-Bakhtiari, Lang, Bulaga, Taylor were all great.
-Daniels is a beast
-Crosby, Schum were really good

Bad:
-losing 4 straight games during the season.
-getting to the point of having to win out to make the playoffs
-Starks decline

Ugly:
-injuries
The injuries in the end are what affected this team the most. Losing Sam Shields week 1 changed the whole defense. Add in the injuries to Randall and Rollins and the CBs were never the same.
Losing Lacy was the 2nd biggest loss of the season.
Mathews season was ruined by injuries also.
Today's game pretty much summed up the season. First play of the game they suffered an injury, and by the end of the game they were down to 4 healthy OL and had Guion playing RG.

Just for 1 year I'd like to see a healthy team.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 22, 2017 at 11:09 pm

"Just for 1 year I'd like to see a healthy team."

This is what makes 2011 such a shame. Not just 15-1, but 15-1 and healthy. Big missed opportunity, although I guess you could argue that that team won their super bowl before the season rather than after.

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2017 at 10:50 am

Largely healthy at the end of 2014, too, and then the Seattle debacle.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 23, 2017 at 01:48 pm

It was, except Rodgers' calf was a problem.

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Denise Chanterelle's picture

January 22, 2017 at 10:52 pm

So, Brice goes down 1st play of the game. If the Packers had not deferred, (after winning the toss), to the #1 Offense in the NFC, and instead given AR a chance to succeed early, Brice never would have gone down! Think about that one for awhile!! Look, I've hated that defer tactic all season long! Put your best players out there first, (Hello AR!), every chance you get. Can't believe MM deferred in the NFCCG, on the road, and let the MVP of 2017 draw first blood, and we lose Brice on top of that. Ugh.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 23, 2017 at 05:07 am

I must say, I read a lot of "interesting" arguments why Packers made mistake with decision to defer (I'm not sure, but I did not read that Packers won the coin toss - maybe Falcons did and decided to receive!), but claiming that if you chose to defer you'll get one player injured in the first series make me laugh...

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dobber's picture

January 23, 2017 at 10:50 am

Deferring is the standard, default option. I had no problem with it...gives you a chance to try to make adjustments and sprint out of the gates in the second half (which didn't happen) AND to try to back that up with points at the end of the first half (which didn't happen). Take Brice out of the equation because his presence or absence likely had nothing to do with the outcome of the game, but don't use it as a reason to take the ball. Anyone can get hurt at any time they are on the field. Is he on the return team? What if he got hurt then?

In the end, I don't think the choice to take ball or defer had much to do with the outcome of the game.

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packrulz's picture

January 23, 2017 at 03:14 am

Good: Knocking the Giants and Cowboys out of the playoffs.
Bad: 5 defensive players drafted in the 1st round, and our defense still sucks!
Ugly: Letting Casey Hayward go and relying on injury prone Sam Shields to be a starter.

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Idiot Fan's picture

January 23, 2017 at 01:56 pm

Casey Hayward was also quite injury prone.

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packrulz's picture

January 24, 2017 at 03:52 am

Hayward had 7 picks with the Chargers this year! My point is maybe TT was to cheap with him.

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dobber's picture

January 24, 2017 at 08:49 am

The Casey Hayward argument is old and has been dickered to death here. Let it go.

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al bundy's picture

January 23, 2017 at 10:04 am

The good is the heroic effort of Rogers and Nelson.
The Bad, the lack of real pass routes and confusing passing with zero run game.
The Ugly. The fact that Ted never spent a dime on one or two solid corners. 325 passing yards in the first half. They were so bad Atlanta didnt even try the run game, they thrived all day on wide open targets. Blame Ted.

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tm_inter's picture

January 23, 2017 at 06:12 pm

Dom Capers has just retired saying "I'm outta [sic] here. I ain't coaching in this league again until Julio Jones retires. That [expletive] ain't even fair. You can quote me on that too."

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