Gut Reactions: Divisional Round vs Arizona
Aaron's gut reactions from the Packers loss to the Cardinals.
By PackerAaron
- Heartbreaking. Just absolutely heartbreaking.
- Janis and Abbrederis both played a hell of a game.
- Rodgers was absolutely amazing and maddening at the same time.
- I'll never understand what McCarthy was trying to do in the second-to-last possesion in regulation.
- Hope Cobb is ok.
- The defensive backs did a great job in man, but zone was a disaster.
- Abbrederis did a great job blocking down field on a number of plays.
- I can't handle all the three man rush calls in the red zone.
- Julius Peppers was so close so many times. He did have the one sack, but was close to four.
- Did Janis do enough to earn Rodgers' trust tonight?
- Eddie Lacy didn't have much room to run, but when he got going, he was fun to watch. Hope he gets right this offseason.
- Sam Shields' two dropped INTs were just killers. But he played damn well overall.
- The Packers absolutely need to upgrade at punter this offseason.
- If they gave Championships to the team that wastes the most timeouts, this team would be hoisting Lombardi.
- That hail mary was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen in sports. Pity it happened in defeat.
- I think Fitzgerald spooked Dom after catching a few in man, which made him go to so much zone in the second half. I wish he would have just trusted his guys to fight through it and make a play. These corners are so much better in man than zone.
- This one is going to hurt for awhile.
- I love this football team.
- Go Pack Go.
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Comments (286)
Wenis
January 16, 2016 at 11:02 pm
You gotta love it. Packers get to the OT and BOOM they completely fell apart. New ways to lose in OT.
Wenis
January 16, 2016 at 11:04 pm
But I must say I didnt watch the game but followed it in the chat. Sounds like they came to play but a couple miscues and missed int's did them in.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:32 pm
Shields should have had about 4. 2 resulted in 10 points and 1 of those was going to be 6 for us.
Tundraboy
January 16, 2016 at 11:49 pm
Just like the sacks, so so close.
DrealynWilliams
January 17, 2016 at 12:10 am
Yep.
But the tackling and hustle after the catch makes no sense. No excuse for that. It was just horrible.
D Ernesto
January 17, 2016 at 09:18 am
He proficient though at hanging his head and holding his hands out like, hey I almost had it. Dump this sucker. He just isn't that good.
Oppy
January 17, 2016 at 12:28 pm
Seriously?
A DB who gets in position to have a chance at 3 or 4 INTs IN. A. SINGLE. GAME. isn't that good?
Most DB's don't have 3 or 4 passes defensed in a game.
Shields failure to make the picks is disappointing, but he balled the F out last night. Did he even allow a pass completion? I don't know.
Razor
January 17, 2016 at 04:55 pm
So tired of Mike and Ted. Can't stand to listen to Mike.
Blame the players if you want to but Ted got them and Mike coaches them.
Same story last five years - odd game management and embarrassment.
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 05:59 pm
More complaining from the spoiled fan base. I can understand frustrated and disappointed, but embarrassment is the last thing we should be feeling. We were seven point dogs going into this game with a rag tag group at WR going up against a solid ARZ team on both sides of the ball. We were one play away from advancing and gave them a scare they won't soon forget. I hate to lose like everyone else, but thinking just replacing the front office and coaches will get us over the hump is fools gold.
I'm pretty proud to have TT and MM leading the team. They get us in position to win year after year in an ultra competitive league. We're not Cleveland in constant disarray. We're not Atlanta who's done nothing in the playoffs and can't reach them now. We're not San Fran who splashed onto the scene for a couple years but now is starting over from scratch.
Do you think before last year NE fans were clamoring for Bill Belichek's firing? He hadn't won the Super Bowl in a decade. It's been seven years for Pittsburgh. Should Tomlinson have to go? There are nearly 30 teams that would love to trade places with us right now.
Sure we have holes in the roster. Everybody has holes in their roster even after the draft and free agency. But when fall rolls around in nine months Green Bay will once again be ready for another run at the Super Bowl.
Get some perspective...please.
Idiot Fan
January 16, 2016 at 11:02 pm
Hell of an effort by a broken-down team. I love the fight they showed against a good team, with no love from the refs to boot.
Nerd
January 16, 2016 at 11:19 pm
That's true, but as always with Mikes teams, they show they are the superior team, but lose anyway.
Remember last year?
Great game by Abby and Janis though. If Janis learns how to catch the ball without facing the QB, he could be a real weapon.
Left about 5 turnovers on the field, most reprehensibly the one Shields dropped that "coulda woulda shoulda" been The Dagger.
chugwater
January 16, 2016 at 11:23 pm
How is Mike at fault for the dropped INTs? Does he teach them how to bobble the pass and let the ball fall on the ground?
Nerd
January 16, 2016 at 11:36 pm
I put Mike at fault, because it's been going on the entire time he's been HC. Remember what happened last year in the playoffs?
It's not just "dropped INTs." This year it was mainly the offense. Each unit ends up being LESS than the sum of it's parts.
D Ernesto
January 17, 2016 at 09:20 am
Again, MM he had zero time outs left. Rogers had to do it all by himself. No coaching or time to talk strategy, Mike wasted his time outs on, as one analyst pointed out, foolish little yardage things. Why waste a time out to argue 4 yards?
badaxed
January 17, 2016 at 11:47 am
“No leader, however great, can long continue unless he wins battles. The battle decides all.” (Vince Lombardi)
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 06:54 pm
No but when they had a chance to put the game away, he went away from what had worked. That's on him. MM is the head coach and he is not without blame.
Idiot Fan
January 16, 2016 at 11:25 pm
AZ had the top offense in the league (depending on the measure) and a top-ten defense. We were on our 5th, 6th, and 7th receivers. In general, the Packers were not the better team, but they played every bit as well as the Cardinals today, which is a testament to MM, IMO.
chugwater
January 16, 2016 at 11:37 pm
Amen. One talking head on NFL NEtwork predicted D Johnson would have a rookie record for all purpose yards. He was a non factor. The D came to play.
Jordy, Randall, Davante, and Ty were out. Talk about a wounded team. And yet we clawed into overtime. Can we give them a little credit?
I don't get the naysayers. ARZ is a talented team, but take away their top 4 receivers and they'd struggle too.
Nerd
January 16, 2016 at 11:40 pm
Yep, we had players out.
Hence all the more important for Sam Shields to make that INT, which would have been the dagger. No?
What players were injured when we exited the playoffs last year?
If our top 4 WRs are injured, does that mean it's "OK" to leave Fitzgerald uncovered in sudden death? For me, it's not.
I believe this game was quite winnable. However, Mike's teams have a way of letting inferior teams hang around.
Idiot Fan
January 16, 2016 at 11:51 pm
That was not an inferior team.
Tundraboy
January 16, 2016 at 11:54 pm
We did let them get the momentum back too easily it is true. One or two less 3 and outs and we still win without needing more interceptions.
some_guy
January 17, 2016 at 12:05 am
Arizona is probably the best team in the league. I get that this was a crusher but come back to reality.
badaxed
January 17, 2016 at 11:31 am
MM as well as all the other coaches in the NFL on injuries "Next Man Up" no excuses please. play or take the the next train, plane or automobile out of GB.
Nerd
January 16, 2016 at 11:38 pm
Indeed. And yet we could have beat them easily.
This is a pattern, despite the injuries, of our team being less than the sum of its parts, which is to say, the players are not being put in a position that maximizes their ability to succeed.
It happens again and again. The past two exits from the playoffs are just the most obvious. And frankly the most disappointing.
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 12:07 am
You are completely devoid of any perspective.
This was an ARZ team that many predicted to win the Super Bowl. We go in with a middling cast for WR and you expect them to be the second coming of the Greatest Show on Turf. My goodness.
The game will have an ebb and flow that the coaches can't control...including dropped picks. They gave it their best shot, but it wasn't good enough. It happens.
Idiot Fan
January 17, 2016 at 12:08 am
I could not agree more.
badaxed
January 17, 2016 at 11:42 am
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather in a lack of will.” (LOMBARDI)
I would say Fitzgerald had more "Will" than the entire packer (choke) organization.
Ibleedgreenmore
January 17, 2016 at 09:08 am
This team was so broken down all year its amazing they did this well. How many teams can lose what we have and even be close. I am very proud of the effort and they really gave it a run.
badaxed
January 17, 2016 at 11:56 am
Viking fans and Bill fans were "proud" of their teams efforts in all their super bowl "efforts".
“Show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser.
' (Vince Lombardi)
'
Oppy
January 17, 2016 at 12:32 pm
Did it ever occur to anybody that just because Vince Lombardi said something, it doesn't make it the only way, true, or gospel?
Good god, it's the one thing about my Packers fan brethren and sisters that makes me a little embarrassed. Get over it. Vince was just a man. A very successful man, but just a man.
Nerd
January 17, 2016 at 02:05 pm
Vince's team would not have shit itself in the playoffs like this.
Because he would not have allowed them to continue doing so in the regular season, season after season.
Oppy
January 17, 2016 at 03:43 pm
Yes, I'm sure you know that.
dschwalm
January 19, 2016 at 10:53 am
Yeah, those damn refs are the reason for us losing again!
Tundraboy
January 16, 2016 at 11:04 pm
Love this team. Lost Cobb, so much went against them and we fought. I am glad because Abby and Janis proved that they should have played this season. And while that angers me, the Future is bright again. This hurts because so many opportunities still slipped away but we were in it all the way when noone took us seriously. Proud of them.
AngryPackersFan
January 16, 2016 at 11:26 pm
Abby and Janis were amazing. Very proud of both their performances. Janis catching a Hail Mary, let alone to tie a game with time expiring? Never thought I'd see it, at least not this season. Yet here we are...
AZPack
January 16, 2016 at 11:49 pm
Janis made a couple good plays, but the hail mary was luck. THat play always is and the Packers used their luck up. Fact is Janis still doesn't run good routes and until he does he won't get a lot more playing time. Gotta be in the right place all the time, not just make a lucky play to gain playing time. He has an offseason to become a good WR lets hope he puts it to good use.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:04 am
He caught more passes than Adams did in any game this year,Im pretty sure of. Certainly did not drop as many.
craiginator1
January 17, 2016 at 01:18 am
Rodgers have given 2 hail mary successes to the team/fans this year; he deserves some props, has anyone given that in 1 year?
dschwalm
January 19, 2016 at 10:55 am
Hail Mary successes are just pure luck . The only skill required is to be able to throw the ball 75 or 80 yards, and Rodgers does that with ease.
Paul Ott Carruth
January 17, 2016 at 06:36 am
Do you even watch football?
Packer_Pete
January 17, 2016 at 07:13 am
7 catches for 145 yards and 2 TDs, one of which was a great adjustment to a desperation throw, against one of the best CBs in the NFL. I take a performance like that any day, no matter whether the guy actually runs good routes or not.
I am wondering, has Adams ever had a performance like that? Yet he seems to play every single game. I think it is because 'Rodgers trusts him'...
I'd rather take a playmaker than a route runner.
Oppy
January 17, 2016 at 12:37 pm
I am on record as having criticized Janis' horrible route running all season long.
Last night, he ran some pretty good routes, it is apparent he has been working hard at it.- looked like a different player.
You aren't basing your comments on what transpired last night, you seem to be trying to defend against the perception that your comments on Janis in the past were 'wrong'.
Which is odd, because Janis did run sloppy routes in the past, and your comments on it weren't wrong. Janis running decent routes last night (which he definitely seemed to do) doesn't make your past comments wrong.
You need to get over the ego thing. It's a much less complicated existence. It's okay to be 'wrong', it's okay if things change to a state that is different than how they once were.
Janis looked much improved last night. It's a good thing.
lou
January 18, 2016 at 12:21 pm
When you watch Adams week in and week out knowing where he needs to be and apparently running good routes (because they do not replace him) and still not being able to get separation or catch the ball consistently what good is he doing the team - basically the coaching staff values that over PRODUCTION. Doing that is like in Pop Warner giving a kid props who can't play "atta boy" certificates at the end of the year. Possible mistakes or not when you have a kid like Janis who Peter King in Sports Illustrated said today Janis (fast, strong and unafraid on balls he has to fight for) may eliminate the need to draft a WR #1 sitting and watching Adams fail you have to ask if the real reason is some kind of personal issue which of course no reporter will do. There is some luck involved in Hail Mary's that is true, this kid fought the ball away from the best DB in the game, how did you miss that ?
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:06 am
And tying a playoff game to boot! He and Abby have earned the right to play, end of the debate Play them. Makes me wonder how many more games we could have won this year. Abby runs good routes and catches the ball. Janis is the speed we need and can catch as well. Can't wait til next year.
Idiot Fan
January 17, 2016 at 12:10 am
I'm excited to see what Janis can do next year, but Stroh is a little right. One of the FGs we had to settle for early was due to Janis running a bad route in the endzone. But he more than made up for it later. I'm almost more impressed by his play on 4th and 20 than the hail mary.
Thegreatreynoldo
January 17, 2016 at 12:44 am
Stroh is indeed a little right, Idiot. Janis showed that he is still not a polished route runner, but I think he also showed that his speed could have been utilized better by this coaching staff and by this QB. On the play you referenced Janis ran a post and it looked like AR expected him to run a dig. In any event, they weren't on the same page.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:56 am
4th and 20 was clutch. Showed what he is capable of.
WinUSA
January 17, 2016 at 01:44 pm
Let me add... I have seen Abby blocking downfield EVERYTIME he plays... Not passive blocks (just getting their body between the defender and the object) but fricken great form blocks driving the defender backwards... Time and time again...yet the TV announcer never pointed it out.
Abby has defined his worth and deserves to be a starter.
DrealynWilliams
January 17, 2016 at 07:53 pm
Don't worry, the people who really matter will take notice of his hustle -- the coaches.
I hope Abby continues to work his ass off and get stronger/quicker. He might be the WR that allows Cobb to see more of the opponents 3rd CB depending on our formation. Abby can be effective Inside and out. I think it's either going to be Abby or Adams that does this.
Thegreatreynoldo
January 18, 2016 at 02:46 am
"Abby can be effective inside and out."
This is very important. I think so too. We need 3 outside WRs. We will have Nelson and candidates in Adams, Abby, and Janis. (I don't think Montgomery can play extensively outside - but I'd like to have seen more of him. I don't that opinion set in stone.) It is TT's job to determine whether 2 of the 3 will be viable #2 outside WRs or if he needs to bring in help. Was Adams' ankle his main problem? Will Janis continue to improve his route running? Will Abby continue to develop and also stay healthy? TT will be judged by the results of such decisions, and his past success is why he has had this job so long.
DrealynWilliams
January 18, 2016 at 11:44 am
@Reynoldo
I think Ty can play anywhere due to his combination of speed and strength. He might have the best speed/strength combo after Jordy. Not saying, he should ways be outside, but I think he's a WR that doesn't have to be in a specific spot to be effective.
Lol, I honestly think TT doesn't touch a WR in this draft. Unless he totally drops (6th or 7th), is a blazer (4.3 or better) and specializes in KR/PR -- I can't see where another WR would fit in.
dschwalm
January 19, 2016 at 10:59 am
MM may not play him next year either, if all the current WRs are healthy
DrealynWilliams
January 19, 2016 at 12:11 pm
Play who? Ty?
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:04 pm
I love this team. I love this team. I love this team. I love this team. I love this team.
Idiot Fan
January 16, 2016 at 11:04 pm
I don't want to pile on the guy, but any play to Lacy just felt like a wasted play. Those two big runs he had, you could drive a truck through the hole. The rest were just painful to watch.
Find yourself in the offseason Eddie.
jbromusic
January 16, 2016 at 11:07 pm
such a letdown this season. i can't wait to see if he gets it together next season
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:13 pm
While I agree that Starks could have made it to the end zone with those holes, but let's not act like Lacy doesn't put fear in defenders when he's running straight full speed. Those attempted tackles were arm slaps.
Oppy
January 17, 2016 at 12:48 pm
Any defender who watched Lacy film this season shouldn't have any fear of Lacy running at them.
My biggest gripe about Lacy is he's built like a powerback but he mostly refuses to run like a powerback.
All season long, Lacy has looked to avoid contact, and it has cost him and the offense yards.
Watch Lacy. With rare exception, he looks to avoid direct contact. He will spin, he will try to shake and bake, juke, jump step... even if it's just a lone DB in front of him. If I were the RB coach, I'd drill it into Lacy's head that he's a bull, and he needs to run through, not around, defenders.
chugwater
January 16, 2016 at 11:17 pm
True, but I kept saying you have to keep running the ball. It will pay dividends eventually.
I think this was a defeat by Rodgers. Too many missed opportunities in the end zone. Overthrew so many balls. Didn't help with the 5th, 6th, and 7th string WR on the field.
Idiot Fan
January 16, 2016 at 11:22 pm
I totally agree that they needed to run it, but Starks is much better than the current incarnation of Lacy.
croatpackfan
January 17, 2016 at 05:14 am
People, Lacy was playing last, I think 7 games, with rib injury! Anybody here has any kind of rib injury? If yes, please explain people hoiw you felt when you just breathing...
TommyG
January 17, 2016 at 07:47 am
I've had several broken ribs due to snowboarding mishaps. They suck. Everything you try to do (move, twist, lift, cough, breathe) is pure agony. Lacy did what he could and added two huge runs to the mix. This is not lacy's loss.
Didn't see any Cobb in the backfield. That was interesting. No RB screen either. That was disappointing.
Idiot Fan
January 17, 2016 at 12:39 pm
I'm not saying it's Lacy's loss, and if he's injured, all the more reason to give more runs to Starks.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:33 pm
@Chug
Really? This game is Rodgers' fault??? Are you serious or are you trolling?
chugwater
January 16, 2016 at 11:42 pm
Not trolling. He missed several throws. You can't one hop a 4th down pass to Jones in the shadow of your end zone...period. Or throw a pick on the opening drive to start the 3rd quarter.
Possessions are too precious.
Not down on him. He's still a superstar in my eyes. But he was not the AR of 2010 vs ATL. The precision was just not there.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:51 pm
@Chug
I'm not disagreeing he missed some throws. And that INT was a tipped pass.
I'm disagreeing that we lost this game BECAUSE OF AARON RODGERS.
Are you serious???
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 12:03 am
Having troubles with double posts. Ugh.
Might have been too hard on Rodgers there. He made some plays, but also had his share of missed opportunities. Let's just agree on that.
DrealynWilliams
January 17, 2016 at 12:14 am
@Chug
I absolutely agree on that. I just refuse to overlook with what Rodgers had to work with and who he was going up against.
This game was not Rodgers' fault. If he makes a few of those throws can you say for sure we win this game?
I hate to do this to any Packer, and especially to Shields, but if you wanted to blame anyone -- point to him. Not saying it would be right to, but you could argue one or 2 of those picks could have sealed the game.
craiginator1
January 17, 2016 at 01:25 am
It's rough to blame it on a guy who spent the last 3 game out due to concussion. I was disappointed that he didn't come up with the INTs, but not easy since it was his first game in 1 month. I hate to say it, but I blame it on the ginger wolverine; he had horrible punts when needed that directly led to AZ points. He needs to be help accountable.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 07:06 pm
In this game who he had to play with had nothing to do with his bad to awful throws. No need to make excuses for Rodgers, couple of drops by Cobb and Abby that's it. He is off his game and not above criticism. He has spoiled us for sure but is not blameless.
DrealynWilliams
January 17, 2016 at 07:48 pm
@Tundra How many bad to awful throws did Rodgers have? And yes, this question is relevant.
I'm sick of talk like this. We all know Rodgers was not his usual self this season and we've all criticized him this season (more so towards the end of the season). What are you talking about?!
Who he had to play with had NOTHING to do with his throws? You're crazy. It has EVERYTHING to do with his performance. How many "bad" seasons has Aaron Rodgers had in his career? Maybe 2? First year starting and this season? Hmmm....
2008 - 63 Comp. % 28 TDs 13 INTs
2015 - 60 Comp. % 31 TDs 8 INTs
Have a nap............
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 11:22 pm
Talking about this last game not talking about season. So no need to go on a tirade There were several passes that were off, and I recall one where the receiver was open and the throw was terrible and Rodgers pointed at him as if it was not his fault. I have defended him all year because he was always running for his life but that was not the case yesterday Save your stats. Make your point and be civil. No need to be insulting
DrealynWilliams
January 18, 2016 at 11:32 am
@Tundra
You said he's off his game and not above criticism.
At this point who WASN'T criticising him???
We all knew Rodgers wasn't having his usual type of season, but he still showed us signs of brilliance.
My point is that Rodgers is getting criticized but he was also a major reason we were still in the game. Yes that 4th down pass to Jones was horrible. One can even question the decision to even target Jones. But what about his pocket presence that ENTIRE game? What about that huge 3rd down scramble? What about those darts he threw to Janis on slants and back-shoulder throws? What about the scramble and throw he made to Janis? What other QB makes those last minute 4th quarter plays? Rodgers wasn't given time -- he MADE time.
You're wrong on who he had available did not effect his play. That was the case and it is not making excuses. The Offense did what it could and fought the entire game.
Tundraboy
January 18, 2016 at 01:47 pm
All good. My point is that he adapted to what he had over the last few games and that his being off was just him being off yet he still carried us, no doubt. Never said he wasn't brilliant times, . Agree to disagree.
AZPack
January 17, 2016 at 09:55 am
If Jones could get ANY separation, Rodgers doesn't have to throw it low. The way it was, Jones was completely covered and it forced Rodgers to throw low and away. If he throws it to Jones its easily defensed or more likely a pick 6.
Oppy
January 17, 2016 at 12:44 pm
Dude, you need some reality juice.
That was a horrible throw, period, and there's zero question Rodgers would agree.
He HAS to give the WR a chance to catch that ball. Should have been knee high and thrown to the sidelines- like a low back shoulder throw- which gives the WR the chance to catch it without much if any chance for a defender to make a play at it. Worst case scenario, the ball sails OOB.
Instead, it came out of Rodgers' hand poorly and found turf before reaching the WR.
Thegreatreynoldo
January 18, 2016 at 02:54 am
Danny, AR did not HAVE to throw it to JJ, though everyone in my house knew that pass on 4th and 5 was going to JJ. I expect everybody knew it. Since AR decided to force it, then it is incumbent upon him not to throw it short. Since it was the last play of the game, I'd prefer to let JJ try to make a contested catch - I mean, who gives a rip if it is a pick 6 or not, unless you are a person who watches one's own stats? It was do or die.
chugwater
January 16, 2016 at 11:42 pm
Not trolling. He missed several throws. You can't one hop a 4th down pass to Jones in the shadow of your end zone...period. Or throw a pick on the opening drive to start the 3rd quarter.
Possessions are too precious.
Not down on him. He's still a superstar in my eyes. But he was not the AR of 2010 vs ATL. The precision was just not there.
marpag1
January 16, 2016 at 11:20 pm
Lacy had that huge run, and all I could think was, "Oh my God, is this guy slow." Any other RB in the league scores on that play.
dobber
January 16, 2016 at 11:25 pm
All I could hear in my head watching that play was Berman going "Rumblin' bumblin' stumblin'"...and that's usually reserved for OL or DL who pick up fumbles.
craiginator1
January 17, 2016 at 01:32 am
Lacy is Lacy, but him not getting in to the endzone was the difference in the game. He didn't follow Abbredaris into the end zone.
NickPerry
January 17, 2016 at 09:36 am
They scored on the one of the next few plays, Janis's 1st TD Catch.
Oppy
January 17, 2016 at 12:49 pm
Bulaga really sprung that big run with a nice de-cleater block upfield.
Lang also had a great chip further upfield that ended up thwarting two would-be pursuers.
WinUSA
January 18, 2016 at 11:19 am
Lacy.... For a run that went over 50 yards...it showed me a lot of the most glaring weakness of this guy. He is totally out of football shape.
First.. That hole was so wide you could have driven a road grater thru it... 2nd.... His added weight made him slower than a sloth... 3rd...the guys football instinct as a runner was horrible..he ran TOWARD the defenders and didn't use his downfield convoy to his advantage...on that play I can't think of another running back that wouldn't have taken those circumstances and taken it to the house PERIOD!!!!
Lacey has the God given talent to be elite.....but he had better dedicate himself this offseason or he will be just another "flash in the pan" player.
lou
January 18, 2016 at 04:04 pm
He may be out of shape (for the NFL) and carrying too much weight and besides that he is also banged up (ribs/ankle), given that he still gives 100% every time he touches the football which tells you he is a team player. He will figure it out, come in in the shape he needs to be in and have a solid career in Green Bay, if talent /heart/attitude on the other hand were issues that is another story. By the time he is done he will be up in yards near Taylor and Green - write it down.
WinUSA
January 18, 2016 at 11:39 pm
The 2 dissenters can read what McGinn said about Lacy AFTER I posted this observation!!!!
Kyletgraham
January 16, 2016 at 11:04 pm
This was a very tough loss but I can't be anything but proud of this team. Playing with 4th and 5th string receivers we hung in there the entire game. Rodgers is amazing and it was nice to see Janis play so well. I really think that with a couple upgrades this team is gonna be dangerous next year. Jordy,Cobb, Adams, Janis, and j abb man I can't wait. This team has a bright future. So proud right now!
cheddarhead
January 17, 2016 at 12:25 am
And Montgomery
tm_inter
January 17, 2016 at 01:15 am
The players have to learn how to tackle properly, though. They miss too many tackles. They should hire a rugby coach to teach all Packers how to make correct tackles.
Iain
January 17, 2016 at 02:58 am
Could not agree more
ryanissnackpack
January 16, 2016 at 11:04 pm
well said, Aaron.
So many mixed feelings after that loss, but after the way this season went, I'm proud of the way we fought to the end.
Go Pack Go.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:37 pm
Absolutely. This season was sickening, but this game was amazing. So proud.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:13 am
So true. Bad season, tough loss but now we have reasons to be optimistic, all things considered
GVPacker
January 16, 2016 at 11:05 pm
"This One Is Going To Hurt For Awhile" An Epic Understatement! I' am still not over last years NFC Championship Game Loss. This team needs a playmaking Tight End!!!!
ben
January 16, 2016 at 11:46 pm
or how about that NFC Championship Game? don't for get that.
Tight End? huh. Where have I heard that before?
Oh yea, right here for the last 5 years!
and let me guess..................a MLB? a MLB? a NT? & a S?
Why not just re-post the blog from last year.
(it can all be summed up by the packers position of punter)
Bearmeat
January 16, 2016 at 11:57 pm
Go away Viking fan
ray nichkee
January 16, 2016 at 11:59 pm
.!.. Ben
jbromusic
January 16, 2016 at 11:06 pm
that was one of the greatest games i've ever witnessed. nice to see our guys hang in there even though NOBODY gave them a chance. it was interesting to watch rodgers have to lean on janis even though he really doesn't trust him yet. it was even more interesting to see our defense fold in OT after having a STELLAR season. i can't wait to see our offense next season after everyone is healthy and we draft a stud tight end, receiver and another offensive tackle. go pack go!
paxbak
January 16, 2016 at 11:19 pm
How can you be a Packer fan and say that was a great game - I HATED IT!!! It was another heartbreaking loss to add to the many over the years - who cares how close it was - the bad guys won and I am depressed because of it. Terrible game. A great game is a Packer blowout if you are a real fan. I LOVE those games and will watch them multiple times. I will try to forget about this one as quick as I can. = Excuse me while I go shoot myself.
marpag1
January 16, 2016 at 11:29 pm
You're excused.
jbromusic
January 16, 2016 at 11:30 pm
i'm sure you hated it. i hated the final outcome but it was an amazing game. period.
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 12:10 am
So you didn't like the Super Bowl when we beat PIT because it wasn't a blow out?
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 12:10 am
So you didn't like the Super Bowl when we beat PIT because it wasn't a blow out?
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 12:10 am
So you didn't like the Super Bowl when we beat PIT because it wasn't a blow out?
WinUSA
January 17, 2016 at 02:00 pm
Pax. You had best RUN to the pharmacy for your refill of antidepressants before they run out!!
AZPack
January 17, 2016 at 02:38 pm
Don't forget the bullets!
chugwater
January 16, 2016 at 11:20 pm
One of the talking heads on NFL Network predicted Johnson would break a record for rookie all purpose yds in a playoff game. Pfffffft. Talk about disrespect. They were falling all over themselves to call the game for ARZ.
tm_inter
January 17, 2016 at 01:20 am
No Packer loss is a great game! A great game is when the Packers win.
paxbak
January 17, 2016 at 09:54 am
There's a packer fan!!
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 07:20 pm
I agree. Yesterday was a only great if we won. Exciting yes, Great, No
packsmack
January 16, 2016 at 11:06 pm
How do they get all the receivers on the field next year?
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:19 pm
Adams better get his sh*t together. He has the edge going into training camp ONLY because of his draft status.
Nelson
Cobb
Adams
Abby
Janis
------------------------
I'd like to see:
Nelson
Abby (his route running pushes him ahead of Cobb,IMO.)
Adams
Janis
Edit: Damn it! I forgot about Ty.
jbromusic
January 16, 2016 at 11:31 pm
don't forget about the tight end that we're going to draft in the 1st round :)
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:54 pm
Lol, I don't think we'll draft a TE in the first 3 rounds, so I'm not thinking about one. Don't need one, honestly. We need a Tom Crabtree type TE. Do you know how dangerous R. Rodgers would be if he learns how to throw his weight around and run through would-be-tacklers?
jbromusic
January 17, 2016 at 12:09 am
i disagree. i think quarless is gone and richard rodgers isn't ready for prime time. i think this is the year that ted goes for a top notch tight end
DrealynWilliams
January 17, 2016 at 12:17 am
@JBro I didn't mean we don't need another TE as in roster spot. I meant we don't need one to make this Offense go. Of course we need to pick up a TE via the draft of FA. I too think Quarless is gone. After R. Rodgers there are no locks of any TE making the squad next season. So, I do agree that we need to pick up a TE, but I disagree that we need to draft one in the top round(s).
croatpackfan
January 17, 2016 at 05:21 am
You all forget about PS man Mitchell Henry. He showed nice plays in the preseason...
AZPack
January 17, 2016 at 10:18 am
He's got some potential. But the Packers would be wise to draft Hunter Henry. Then they have cornered the market on TE named Henry! LMAO
Idiot Fan
January 17, 2016 at 12:16 am
I'm not giving up on RRodgers, but my goodness, he is slooooooow. There is almost 0% chance for YAC with him.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:45 am
O %. Lol. Today it really showed. Slooooow
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:17 am
Still too slow and can be taken down far too easily.
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 12:05 am
We need a TE in the worst way or RR needs to figure out how to manufacture YAC. He falls down like a dead fish whenever he's touched.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:19 am
Dead fish lol. He does go down just on contact it is true.
Thegreatreynoldo
January 17, 2016 at 12:58 am
Unfortunately, 2 of the 3 top TEs decided not to declare for the draft. Of course TT might find a TE from a smaller school (someone off the grid, so to speak), and/or settle for a blocking TE. Far more important to get a talented prospect than obsess on this position.
croatpackfan
January 17, 2016 at 05:22 am
Mitchell Henry, PS
Mags
January 17, 2016 at 12:04 pm
Packers need a proven TE via free agency. No more relying on PS or draft picks. Been an issue since Finley left.
AZPack
January 17, 2016 at 10:12 am
Your forgetting Montgomery. and...
"Abby (his route running pushes him ahead of Cobb,IMO.)"
You can't be serious.
Oppy
January 17, 2016 at 12:56 pm
Don't worry, the Packers have, in the past:
1) Kept 6 Wr's on the roster
2) Used roster spots for players the exclusively play on Special Teams
Since Janis is a ST ace, (And abby is also a return man), I think it is quite possible we keep Nelson, Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Abby and Janis.
Maybe even James Jones.
Here's another interesting idea, what if Janis sacrifices just a little bit of his speed and puts on ten pounds, cross train him as a TE.. I think a 6'3, 235 guy who runs, let's say, 4.45 forty could be a legitimate seam threat from the TE position. :)
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 02:00 pm
I don't know about permanently, but I have thought of using Janis as a passing tight end as well. Is he about Finley size and weight?
AZPack
January 17, 2016 at 02:44 pm
Finley was 6'4 250. Janis is 6'3 220ish. Not really close.
Oppy
January 17, 2016 at 03:49 pm
No, but he'd probably be faster than Finley was, and I'd go so far as to say Janis at his current weight is probably more physical than Finley was at 245.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 07:16 pm
I think so too.
Thegreatreynoldo
January 18, 2016 at 03:06 am
Hate the idea of moving Janis to TE. The point of a TE is to be a dual threat or have a dual purpose. Janis would have to gain 25 pounds of muscle. As is, he could not block in line at all - maybe he could pick off some LB at the 2nd level, but if I were his agent I'd tell him to avoid James Harrison and his type. He could not pass protect. His presence as a TE tips off the play since he can only do one thing. Finley in fact (IIRC) was a willing if not a consistent blocker. RR got better but is still bad at blocking. The draft is bereft of TE talent outside of Henry, short of TT again trying to find a hidden gem later. Maybe FA, but I looked some time ago and IIRC there isn't much out there unless Chicago cuts Bennett.
Beep
January 17, 2016 at 12:09 am
It is a log jam and you can make a case for everyone to get a spot, and outside of the top 2 of Nelson and Cobb, you can make a case for everyone to be odd man out too.
I wonder how much pull #12 will have selecting the WR corps next year.
My ranks:
1. Nelson
2. Cobb
3. Montgomery - not enough credit to him that the offense did fall into its funk after the same week 6 he injured his ankle. Might be our best return man too. Assuming he's healthy, he should be a lock with his high draft status, but I hope his ankle gets right.
4. Jones - Saved our season even if he did have some silent stretches. He's a beast when he's matched up against a nickel CB, especially with talent ahead of him drawing coverage. Hope he's willing to re-sign for close to the veterans minimum because TT won't get spendy with cheaper talent close behind him.
5. Adams - talent is there, but not consistent. Drew comparisons to Jones coming in but kinda reminds me of Jarrett Boykin now and maybe on his way out.
6. Abby - good hands and shifty but also undersized and injury prone so far. As a result, not playing on ST coverage and not our top return man. Still has better hands than Janis though. Wish he wasn't a UW product, because Packers fans are homers for UW guys.
7. Janis - still a project despite showing potential tonight. Not as good of a WR but he is a special teams beast.
Hope that whoever is odd man out is worth something on the trade market.
Idiot Fan
January 17, 2016 at 12:19 am
Unless there are injuries in TC, I think Jones is gone. They will always choose young and promising over older and experienced.
jbromusic
January 17, 2016 at 12:32 am
yeah, i can't see ted bringing jones back. there's just no room for him unless there's another injury
paxbak
January 17, 2016 at 09:57 am
We can find a servicable TE for $2M/yr in free agency - all we need is servicable at that position - Rodgers, when back to form, will do the rest.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:06 pm
A Healthy Jordy. A Healthy Cobb. Janis and Abby earned Rodgers respect AND trust. Lacy will come back in shape and motivated. I expect NOTHING less than a Top 5 Offense (Scoring, running AND passing). We don't need a TE. But we do need one that's physical and can block.
Idiot Fan
January 16, 2016 at 11:12 pm
Not to mention Ty Montgomery. I'm still excited about him.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:18 pm
Oh f*ck! I forgot about him. Man, where's the Fast Forward button for Life? I'm ready for Training Camp.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:41 am
My sentiments exactly, can we just fast forward and skip spring and summer.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:27 am
If they are healthy, and Ty is in the mix we can live with that type of TE as long as he can catch a couple each game,like when we need a critical first down.
DrealynWilliams
January 17, 2016 at 12:35 am
I think we need a better blocking TE. If R. Rodgers works on that he'll be the perfect TE for us. Reliable hands, good blocking and can play all 3-downs. Now, seeing him outside vs a CB or Safety he should dominate in blocking.
All a receiving TE is going to do is take snaps from Abby/Janis or Ty.
Thegreatreynoldo
January 17, 2016 at 01:06 am
I am perhaps old-fashioned, but a TE is supposed to be a dual threat. If RR learns to block, he'll do for now. I agree in general with you Drealyn that a strictly receiving TE would just take snaps from a young guy. I watched Gronk today and just drooled.
ray nichkee
January 17, 2016 at 01:14 am
How about the KC guy, and jordan reed too?
DrealynWilliams
January 17, 2016 at 01:16 am
If we had a Gronk we wouldn't have both Nelson and Cobb lol.
What are your top positions you think we should target in the draft?
I'm hoping for any position linebacker, speedy receiving rb and a defensive lineman
Thegreatreynoldo
January 17, 2016 at 04:11 am
I try not to get locked in by position. The D could use one more difference maker. The draft seems strong at the front 7. DE looks very promising. I'd have to take a longer look at late 1st round LOTs. I sure wouldn't let the play of Randall and Rollins deter me from taking a CB like White or Ramsey should by some miracle they fall. There are several ILBs who probably would be around late in the 2nd, but I'd be hard pressed to pass on Ragland if he were there in the 1st. I don't love any of the WRs enough to spend a #1 - Treadwell won't fall, and I haven't looked at Doctson or Thomas. I don't expect there to be a TE worth taking until late 3rd or 4th round. I am assuming TT re-signed everyone:
I'd think needs: TE, DE, ILB, OLB, OT, Scatback. Edit: Add a punter to the list, late or UDFA.
FrozenTundra
January 16, 2016 at 11:07 pm
He should have gone for two.
I never thought I would say this after 2010 but the defense played one hell of a game.
Just getting everyone healthy would be like getting three first round draft picks.
jbromusic
January 16, 2016 at 11:08 pm
the defense played a hell of a game in regulation
ollie418
January 16, 2016 at 11:28 pm
No they did not after they went to zone, then they got picked apart. Nice going Dom. Bye bye bitch.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:11 pm
There's no way Rodgers and or MM had enough confidence in the receivers at that time to go for it.
marpag1
January 16, 2016 at 11:07 pm
1) We are Packer fans, dammit. None of this "the refs screwed us" bullshit
2) Hats off to the cards. They did what they had to to win
3) I honestly think that if Nelson had not gone down, the Pack would have won the Super Bowl.
Idiot Fan
January 16, 2016 at 11:14 pm
Yeah, there were a couple tough no-calls, but that probably went both ways. I much prefer refs who let the guys play to refs who call everything.
ray nichkee
January 16, 2016 at 11:10 pm
Good effort by the players. I hated the 2nd half zone. It was a great game exept for the final score. Nobody gave the pack a chance and all i wanted was a good game. We were down to our bottom 3 WRs. It was so much better than week 16. This team is set up good for next year if we get help at ILB and TE.
ollie418
January 16, 2016 at 11:29 pm
Zone killed them.
Paul Ott Carruth
January 16, 2016 at 11:42 pm
Had to mix in zone because Arians started picking on the weak link....Hayward.
ray nichkee
January 17, 2016 at 12:01 am
We lost hyde too.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:30 am
So I'm not the only one who sees Hayward as a weak link.
NickPerry
January 17, 2016 at 06:19 am
Funny thing was Hayward played such a good game last week. We can't put that last play on Hayward, Peppers had dropped into Zone and when Palmer escaped Peppers left Fitz alone. With that said I like Rollins, Randell, and Shields as out Top 3 CB's. I LOVE Gunter and don't give a damn about his 40 time, rather see him on the field instead of Goodson every time.
Oppy
January 17, 2016 at 01:08 pm
Gunter is definitely faster than he clocked at the combine/pro day.
His time was so atrocious- you simply can't compete if that's legitimately how fast you run (4.69 40 yard, worst among DBs in the draft last year). His ten yard, 60 yard, 3 cone, and short shuttle were all bottom 2-3 results as well.
It had to either be a very bad day- perhaps he was sick or hurt- or he dogged it for some reason. I don't know. But I'm almost positive those numbers are not representative of Gunter's true day-to-day playing speed.
lou
January 18, 2016 at 04:19 pm
I believe Jerry Rice ran a 4.71 40 yard dash at the combine. Gunter appears to have feel for the passing game which was evident in the exhibition games, it looks like with him and our first 2 draft picks we have hit it big time at CB.
Oppy
January 18, 2016 at 09:20 pm
Jerry Rice indeed was a slower WR in terms of 40, but two things, I highly doubt his 3 cone and shuttle times were garbage as well (quickness/change of direction drills), and the more important distinction between a WR and a DB- DB's are innately at a disadvantage to the offense in terms of speed because they must REACT to receiver in front of them, which automatically gives the WR a half step on the coverage. There's also the whole backpeddling thing, too.
Queenlizzie13
January 16, 2016 at 11:10 pm
So depressed. Was so happy after the two passes to Janis including the hail mary and then . . .
Devastated. But Janis and Abby proved they can play.
With Jordy back I fully expect O to be back.
But right now, ugh, heartbreaking way to end the season.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:23 pm
I can't tell you how to feel, but you shouldn't feel that way. The offense put up those points missing their #1 #2 and #3 WR.
The season was bad, but this game should make us all feel good. The future is bright.
I can't put in words on how excited I am for Training Camp.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:32 am
Agree Bring on TC and the Vikings as our first victims.
NickPerry
January 17, 2016 at 06:22 am
Their #1, #2, #3, and #4 WR.
Nelson
Cobb
Adams
Montgomery
Like you I'm excited, much more than a few weeks ago.
Tundraboy
January 16, 2016 at 11:13 pm
"I'll never understand what McCarthy was trying to do in the second-to-last possesion in regulation."
So so true. Had the ball with 3 minutes and that's what he came up with. Then have it again with almost 2 minutes and again same head scratchers. We win in spite of him so many times. Drives me crazy. Thanks Aaron and Janis that was the craziest ending to tie a game we will ever see!!!!
Idiot Fan
January 16, 2016 at 11:18 pm
What was terrible was the call for a Lacy run. But I'm not sure there was anything else obviously horrible. Third down went to JA, who was borderline interfered with. Fourth down Rodgers one-hopped it to an open James Jones. I don't know how you can say they almost won that game in spite of MM. He had a beat-up team giving the Vegas odds-on favorite to win it all everything they could handle (almost).
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:39 am
Can not go 3 and out at that point in the game. Just can't.. Typical vanilla, play not to lose sequence. Imo
ollie418
January 17, 2016 at 05:46 am
Exactly
AngryPackersFan
January 16, 2016 at 11:11 pm
Unbelievable game. What a finish. It's just hard to watch a blown coverage and poor tackling by the defense ruin a miraculous play to tie the game.
Go Pack Go
Tundraboy
January 16, 2016 at 11:15 pm
Miraculous it was. Don't think I can watch TV coverage for awhile. Just want to remember that hail Mary game tying play.
AngryPackersFan
January 16, 2016 at 11:18 pm
The Hail Mary is now officially the Hail Rahjahs
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:42 am
Good one. Like that
paxbak
January 16, 2016 at 11:11 pm
- We needed a perfect game to win, we started with a missed int, 2 penalties and a short punt and two 3 and outs.
- Nick perry early sack playing for the money
- Can Richard Rodgers gain one yard after catch? Bubba franks did better
- Quick out to Richard Rodgers on third down or any down needs to be taken out of the play book – note to 2016 Packers
- Hyde has to catch more short punts – costs us yards – see desmond howard in 1996
- Packers had no red zone targets, Arizona had 4 but palmer couldn’t throw in the red zone
- Cobb injury could have been a blessing in disguise. Abbredaris and Janis looked better than the recent version of Cobb. Hopefully that will expand into next year
- How many 0, 1 or 2 yard 1st down carries do we have to watch from lacy – he used to get at least 3
- Does Rodgers have any deep ball accuracy anymore – he used to be pin point – now he is way off
- Should have called up WR from practice squad for quarless instead of a DB
- Lots of 1st down runs to nowhere – play action??
- 1st drive of 2nd half int could have been the worst throw of Rodgers career – I didn’t see it tipped
- Injuries injuries injuries – all on us – bad luck today
- Stop using 2nd half timeouts!!! That challenge was iffy at best, not worth giving up a second half time out. We happened to score without them but that was lucky
- Thank god for lame crack back block rule saved us four points (didn’t matter)
- Do we need a new punter – very inconsistent
- Love to say KUHN!!! Once a game
- Arizona last regulation TD drive – BIG hold on Peppers on a 21 yard play – bad no call.
- Defense was awesome on 1st down, terrible on 2nd down when it mattered
- Packer pass rush was finished by the 4th quarter
- Why is Joe Thomas covering a WR on a critical 3rd down play
- OHHHHH Sam Sheilds!!!!! Please make that pick!!! Could have been a game winner WOW!!!
- More luck on last regulation TD from Arizona – WOW!!!
- How bad were those play calls by the Packers on the drive to win it? We were killing them over the middle all game and all of the sudden we are going to work the perimeter. To JJones against Peterson on 4th down at that. They threw in a power running play to boot? Terrible!!!!
- After our lucky TD I knew the only chance we had of winning was to go for 2. Our defense was finished and our offense couldn’t sustain a regulation type drive. Go for two, take the result and go home.
- This team did not deserve to advance anyway. Would have been nice though.
- We need to find a mid range WR that will work well with Rodgers
- Next year we need to figure out our offense. Has Rodgers regressed? Or was it the situation with the team this year. He was not very accurate all season on passes past 10 yards.
- Another long off season
dobber
January 16, 2016 at 11:23 pm
"This team did not deserve to advance anyway. Would have been nice though."
Since when are game outcomes and playoff outcomes about what teams deserve?
ray nichkee
January 16, 2016 at 11:39 pm
Paxbax, you need to settle down for a few days before you post again. This was an exellent showing for a team that has had their backs against the wall for weeks now. Some things could have been better but they did a hell of alot better than expected.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:59 am
Agree. Excellent showing. Earned back the respect we lost over the course of the year and then some.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 12:53 am
"How bad were those play calls by the Packers on the drive to win it? We were killing them over the middle all game and all of the sudden we are going to work the perimeter. To JJones against Peterson on 4th down at that. They threw in a power running play to boot? Terrible!!!!
Couldn't agree more.. Same with Rodgers throw, and TOs.
pacman
January 16, 2016 at 11:11 pm
Everybody calls HEADS! 2nd time in post-season they called TAILS and lost.
For the record, I've been calling for more Janis for the last half of the season.
I didn't give them much of a chance so I've got to give them A LOT of credit. Refs have a tough job but missing some obvious calls is painful.
At least it wasn't as crazy bad as last year.
What else can you say?
sonomaca
January 16, 2016 at 11:17 pm
I thought the Packers were the better team. Palmer doesn't look great.
paxbak
January 16, 2016 at 11:29 pm
There offense was way better than ours once we went to zone - we literally had virtually no chance to stop them - I guess Shields could have :{
phillythedane
January 17, 2016 at 06:01 pm
Wait, wait. Wait one second. Am I to understand you're now criticizing the call on the coin flip?
ollie418
January 16, 2016 at 11:12 pm
Why zone Dom, why Zone? D was dominating.
Shields blew game.
jbromusic
January 16, 2016 at 11:34 pm
shields played a hell of a game
ollie418
January 17, 2016 at 05:48 am
Missed two INTs.
alaskan tundra
January 16, 2016 at 11:12 pm
Well we played a hell of a game. It hurts but Im proud. A couple of passes to Fitzgerald spooked Capers and he dropped the blitzes and went to zone. You never change whats working in football. I agree that he should have gone for 2. They were shell shocked and ripe for the picking. But it is what it is. Great game.
wutech
January 16, 2016 at 11:19 pm
The last 5+ minutes of the game completely summarized the Packers season. Great, sucked, good, on a prayer and then moments of brilliance surrounded by periods of complete failure.
A punter is an absolute must this off season!!
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:28 pm
I was just thinking if they would give him a chance to bounce back like they did with Crosby.
ray nichkee
January 16, 2016 at 11:43 pm
I was wondering why cant mathsay get a punt to roll forward anymore. He used to be decent. He had a nice coffin kick too. Not this year.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:55 pm
Crazy season for a lot of Packers.
Beep
January 16, 2016 at 11:21 pm
Unreal.
Rodgers was channeling his #4 tonight, some shear madness with some shear brilliance.
Really wish Shields could have made a play on one INT or not missed a tackle on Fitzgerald on the big OT run.
Tough to overcome some no calls by the zebras.
Thought it might be a long night after early drops by 84 and 18. WR held their own after that.
Still do not know how you can flip a coin with zero rotations; try it at home, seriously.
Has a team ever had 2 successful Hail Marys in one year?
Looking forward to next year. Let's get everyone healthy, some depth at OL, TE, and ILB,
Gonna be awake for a while tonight after that roller coaster.
Go Pack Go!
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 02:11 pm
Got to sleep around 3 myself.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:27 pm
I'm trying not to get into any ref calls and bad plays just yet, but that Fitz (challenged) catch is calling me.
paxbak
January 16, 2016 at 11:32 pm
cmon, that was a catch in anybodies book - he took three steps at least.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:56 pm
Man, Stop it.
I don't recognize your handle. Are you here to troll? I guess I can go back and forth with some of you tonight.
WinUSA
January 17, 2016 at 02:17 pm
Hate to agree...but Pax has this one right..a costly time out loss for a play in the scheme of the game was not critical enough to warrant losing a precious time out.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:29 pm
Behnke called that Randall INT, BTW.
Pack12
January 16, 2016 at 11:30 pm
Tough loss but a very gutsy performance by an undermanned team. Packers were playing with their young receivers. There was no Cobb and no Jordy and they almost pulled it out. This loss did not hurt as much as the Seattle loss last season because the way the Packers had been playing this season no one gave them a chance. They came to play tonight and showed a lot of pride. They can hold their heads high.
RCPackerFan
January 16, 2016 at 11:30 pm
Love this team! No matter what I love the Packers...
Considering we almost pulled this game off without Cobb and Adams... Let this sink in, we almost beat that team with our 5th and 6th WR from training camp... Insane.
Way to many big plays to Arizona and not enough for Packers. Packers dropped way to many INTs that would have changed the game.
That Hail Mary Pass!!! Wow. Only thing that would have been better was if it was for the win.
Janis had his biggest game! Abbrederis came to play! I can't wait to see how these guys develop next year.
Also bring back Nelson, Montgomery... Our offense will be much, much better.
Lacy needs to drop weight. Need another RB especially if Starks doesn't return. Have to get a pass catching athletic TE!
Great year though.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 01:04 am
Ditto
NickPerry
January 17, 2016 at 06:31 am
RC, I though of you several times during that game. All season calling for more Janis and Abby, "Give them a shot" is all you asked. Time and again you were met with a chorus of "He's not ready", "If he was ready he'd be playing", Rodgers doesn't trust him", just to name a few.
Janis may not be perfect but he played a hell of a game and if nothing else should have gained the respect of those who blasted him all year long AND gained some trust from Rodgers.
Bearmeat
January 16, 2016 at 11:34 pm
Heartbreaking Playoff Losses in the MM tenure:
2007
2009
2014
2015
2016
That's 5 in 10 years. I don't know if that's luck or just poor clutch play? Individually they all seem like luck. But collectively? It's definitely a trend.
I expected to lose today. AZ was the better, deeper team all year. So I'm not even mad. I'm not hurt. Just numb. And tired of having the ability to win it all and not getting it done so many damn times.
Idiot Fan
January 16, 2016 at 11:47 pm
IMO:
2007 was on Brett
2009 was on Dom
2014 is tough to say
2015 was a collective collapse. MM had some questionable calls, but I would put him about #8 on the list of reasons for the loss.
2016 I think MM did a pretty incredible job getting that beat-up team to go toe-to-toe with a good Cardinals team. I'm actually more impressed with MM after today's game.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 01:07 am
I'm with you.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:47 pm
Some of those losses were not MM's fault. Niners, Seahawks and this game.
Niners: We finished the game with how many OLBs? 1 or 2? And still, the game was close and came down to the final minute.
Seahawks: Missed onside kick, that Morgan Burnett pick and immediate slide,HHCD's 2-point blooper...
Cardinals: 4 missed INTs, #1,#2 and #3 WR not available,the tackling/hustle in OT.
Bearmeat
January 16, 2016 at 11:52 pm
I know. I know when you look at all of the losses individually there are reasonable causes for each of them that could be construed as just bad luck. I'm just sick of being so close and not getting it done in the playoffs.
And unfortunately McCarthy's teams have now lost five walk off overtime or end of fourth-quarter playoff games in the last 10 years. Collectively I don't know if that is luck anymore. All I'm saying is that it is a disturbing trend.
:(
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:59 pm
@Bear
I feel you.
Think about this....
We're not the Bears. We're not the Vikings. We're not the Lions.
Smile.
Idiot Fan
January 17, 2016 at 12:24 am
Also think about this: it's really hard to win the Super Bowl. Only one team has won more than one SB during MM's tenure, and it isn't the Patriots.
NickPerry
January 17, 2016 at 06:34 am
DAMN that's a great point, one I'm just as guily as the next guy who forgets that fact.
jh9
January 17, 2016 at 12:29 pm
I’m with you, Bearmeat.
-Yes, the Packers played well today, given they didn’t have four of their top receivers.
But NFL football is not horseshoes.
“Title Town” Doesn’t mean being close to a winner.
Great teams with great coaches find ways to win--not ways to lose.
Although the Packers put up a good fight, if one looks at the game objectively, Arizona was the better coached team. They played with more discipline. They had their players in the right positions much more often than the Packers, and they made the plays when they had to make them.
The “Hail Mary” play was unbelievable and great fun to watch, but it was a lucky play.
For me, as Nagler referenced, it was the second to last offensive drive that lost the game. The Packers could have earned the win that series with better play-calling and execution, but they failed.
Only the play in the 2010 playoffs can be considered a success during the McCarthy-coached years. And that playoff run can be convincingly argued was more about the emergence of Aaron Rodgers as an elite NFL quarterback than the coaching of Mike McCarthy.
How many more years of, “We were so close...” are we going to have to go through before we realize, like you said, there’s a trend here.
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 12:14 am
Don't forget fake field goal for TD. That's on the coaching staff.
DrealynWilliams
January 17, 2016 at 12:20 am
How many turnovers we got that game @Chug?
How many points did we get off those turnovers?
Did you forget that fumbled on-side kick from someone trying to play Hero?
What about HHCD's failed attempt to knock down that 2-point conversion?
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 12:36 am
Don't disagree. Players made several mistakes late in the game. Coaches failed to self scout Brad Jones as weak link on FG block team. It is what it is.
DrealynWilliams
January 17, 2016 at 12:42 am
I mean, damn, you can only work with what ya got.
If you teach your LB to only follow this on field goals and he panics and free roams during a fake field goal -- is that your fault?
If I remember correctly, the play was covered until one player had to leave the receiver because Jones didn't do his assignment.
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 12:56 am
GM John Schneider said they noticed Jones as an opportunity to exploit from game film. With Jones taking himself out of the play, LB had to cover holder and receiver. Advantage Seattle.
You remembered it correctly. Jones went for block and didn't contain. That was the coaches call.
ray nichkee
January 16, 2016 at 11:52 pm
2011 was the worst by far. Last year sucked because nobody expected them to win and i was aready making superbowl plans. Then the 2009 overtime fumble touchdown.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 01:08 am
Left out 2011.
Bearmeat
January 17, 2016 at 08:31 am
No I didn't. 2011 was not a walk off or close playoff loss. That and the 2012 team got trucked.
paxbak
January 17, 2016 at 07:37 am
You missed 2003 - Another gut punch - 4th and 26. It is so hard to watch this team in the playoff. In our last four overtime playoff games, we have lost all four of them. Luck would give us two of them. We were the better team in three of them. We were not the better team in this one. Maybe the breaks will come our way in bunches.
We may be the worst overtime playoff team in the history of the league. I don't have stats to back that but it may be true. I think we have only won one thanks to Al Harris
Bearmeat
January 17, 2016 at 08:32 am
Yes it was but 2003 has nothing to do with this current team, so they're not responsible for it.
badaxed
January 17, 2016 at 12:23 pm
The 1966 packers team had 7 coaches..... the 2015 packers team has 18 coaches not including conditioning coaches............Hard to believe almost three times as many coaches and no one can teach tackling.
Too many cooks....... Short order cooks......... time to find a chef who knows how to cook something that does not leave a bitter taste in your mouth.
ollie418
January 16, 2016 at 11:33 pm
Zone, zone,zone.
Shields, Shields, Shields.
If not for another hail mary, clock management would have been their downfall.
Zone, zone, zone.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:39 pm
I can't wait to watch the film of this game, because I don't remember if those near picks by Shields were Zone plays. If they were, you better run...
ollie418
January 17, 2016 at 12:36 am
Makes no difference, game changed when zone began.
DrealynWilliams
January 17, 2016 at 12:44 am
So, what you're saying is:
"no matter if those dropped INTs from Sam Shields happened in Zone plays it's still bad play calling"???
Am I understanding you?
jeremyjjbrown
January 16, 2016 at 11:37 pm
Sadly, the Packers once again get beat in the playoffs by a team that is willing to improve itself by all of Trades, Free Agency and the Draft. I fear the Packers will always be a step behind other teams until they are also willing to do so.
Bearmeat
January 16, 2016 at 11:44 pm
Not the right time for that comment Jeremy.
jeremyjjbrown
January 17, 2016 at 09:50 am
You guys can dislike all you want, it isn't going to change the Packers record in the Playoffs since 2010.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 07:34 pm
Totally agree. It was great that we fought, great MM had them ready, but his in game management is a weakness for this team. We do not sieze moments when we need to as much as we flirt with disaster by letting opponents hang around. Yesterday was yet another one of these.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 02:20 pm
We need to improve talent but last night proved that even at less than full strength we had the talent to win. Not sure we have the coaching.
And as I wrote this Seattle pulled off the fake punt again.
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:37 pm
People need to keep in mind that we were missing WR #1 #2 AND #3. I'd like to see any top tier QB put up a fight against a Top 10 Defense without his Top 3 WRs
Bearmeat
January 16, 2016 at 11:46 pm
Thank you. Common sense.
Idiot Fan
January 16, 2016 at 11:49 pm
Not to mention Ty Montgomery :)
DrealynWilliams
January 17, 2016 at 12:09 am
Lol! DAMN IT @IF If I forget Ty one more time I'm sending you a jersey
Doug_In_Sandpoint
January 16, 2016 at 11:37 pm
Sheilds just has to catch that ball. The non call on the Janis miss was unreal. He was tackled. The play call to Fitzgerald on the OT TD was excellent. Thought we were about to make a stand. I'd much rather see the college OT...hate not getting a chance for the ball.
The game was much better than I expected, but DBs just catch the frickin' ball.
jbromusic
January 16, 2016 at 11:43 pm
that's why they're DB's and not receivers ;-)
DrealynWilliams
January 16, 2016 at 11:48 pm
And why he was converted to a DB from a receiver? ;)
badaxed
January 17, 2016 at 12:29 pm
Herb Adderley was one of the premier running backs coming out of college. Lombardi switched him to DB. Hall of fame. switching from offense to defense is not always about "Can't catch".
Idiot Fan
January 17, 2016 at 12:04 am
It reminded me of the Hyde dropped-INT against SF in the playoffs two years ago. You just sort of knew after it happened that it was going to be costly.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 01:14 am
Your nailed it. Had the same feeling that it would come back to haunt us.
ollie418
January 17, 2016 at 05:52 am
Exactly
Gianich
January 16, 2016 at 11:45 pm
Mental mistakes on both sides of the ball. Field position (Mastay). Officiating. Switching to zone coverage. Theres your ball game.
ollie418
January 17, 2016 at 12:37 am
Masthay is brutal
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 01:28 am
"That hail mary was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen in sports. Pity it happened in defeat."
I'm choosing to focus on that play only for now. It was so amazing, I'm still stunned by that so it numbs the pain from the ending.
Could have been a far worse ending to this rough season. Right.? Someone please tell me that is the case.
Go Pack Go.
Bearmeat
January 16, 2016 at 11:55 pm
Yeah. Our worst offensive season statistically since 1991. And that's the ending we get. Still sucks. But the perspective is nice.
AngryPackersFan
January 16, 2016 at 11:55 pm
I keep thinking of 6 years ago when they lost to the Cardinals...in OT (facemask!!!)...and how proud I was that they fought back from a 31-10 deficit to tie the game. You could sense they had something special forming. The following season proved those suspicions to be correct. At that point, I was hoping for a dynasty....
But alas, it has yet to happen. 2011 really bothered me - amazing all season only to be a one-and-done in the playoffs (I realize the tragedy with Philbin's son was likely the reason for that). Then 2012, good, but holes in the D. 2013, Rodgers goes down, team still not all there. Finally there was a great team last year, but then the debacle in the NFC Championship game happened. We have many of the same guys back this season, but then Jordy gets hurt which seems to throw a wrench into the offense. It's just seems so damn hard to get back into the Super Bowl.
It's only football, a small part of life, but hell rooting for a team is what makes watching a sport so much more fun. Especially when your team has been so damn good for so many years. You want your team to win. You want them to be the best. Why the hell not? Of course it's just a game. The object of the game is to win.
Maybe it is about the journey and not the destination. It sure has been a hell of a ride - not just this season, but for the last 20+ years. Since 1992, Green Bay Packers have had:
2 losing seasons
2 seasons at 8-8
18 playoff appearances
6 NFC championship game appearances
3 Super Bowls
2 Lombardi Trophys
Not to mention the number of amazing players and unbelievable games. I just want a couple of more Super Bowl rings in the next few years to put the proverbial cherry on top of this magnificent sundae. It can be done too, this team is still young.
Packers are the greatest team to ever play the game.
pacman
January 17, 2016 at 12:20 am
So what has kept us out of the SB more? Look at the Patriots. If it wasn't for this game, there were sure to be many coaching changes. Now what?
Yes, Packers have been solid for a long time. But something is missing to make them one of the best teams ever.
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 12:25 am
Those who complain don't understand how hard it is to win it all. Bill Belichek is considered one of the greatest coaches ever and he went a decade between Super Bowl wins.
Cincinnati can't win a playoff game. Cleveland can't find a starting QB. Yet there are those calling for MM's head. My we are spoiled.
Packer fans can worry about the mundane like no other. Do we have a NFCCG hangover? Can we beat a team in on the road with a winning record? Who is calling the plays this week? What is going on with AR and Olivia? All trivial.
Next summer America will be talking about the 2016 season and who will win the Super Bowl. You can bet the Packers will certainly be in the conversation. Be sure to thank MM and TT as they are largely responsible for the success we've had.
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 12:25 am
Those who complain don't understand how hard it is to win it all. Bill Belichek is considered one of the greatest coaches ever and he went a decade between Super Bowl wins.
Cincinnati can't win a playoff game. Cleveland can't find a starting QB. Yet there are those calling for MM's head. My we are spoiled.
Packer fans can worry about the mundane like no other. Do we have a NFCCG hangover? Can we beat a team in on the road with a winning record? Who is calling the plays this week? What is going on with AR and Olivia? All trivial.
Next summer America will be talking about the 2016 season and who will win the Super Bowl. You can bet the Packers will certainly be in the conversation. Be sure to thank MM and TT as they are largely responsible for the success we've had.
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 12:25 am
Those who complain don't understand how hard it is to win it all. Bill Belichek is considered one of the greatest coaches ever and he went a decade between Super Bowl wins.
Cincinnati can't win a playoff game. Cleveland can't find a starting QB. Yet there are those calling for MM's head. My we are spoiled.
Packer fans can worry about the mundane like no other. Do we have a NFCCG hangover? Can we beat a team in on the road with a winning record? Who is calling the plays this week? What is going on with AR and Olivia? All trivial.
Next summer America will be talking about the 2016 season and who will win the Super Bowl. You can bet the Packers will certainly be in the conversation. Be sure to thank MM and TT as they are largely responsible for the success we've had.
chugwater
January 17, 2016 at 12:37 am
Those who complain don't understand how hard it is to win it all. Bill Belichek is considered one of the greatest coaches ever and he went a decade between Super Bowl wins.
Cincinnati can't win a playoff game. Cleveland can't find a starting QB. Yet there are those calling for MM's head. My we are spoiled.
Packer fans can worry about the mundane like no other. Do we have a NFCCG hangover? Can we beat a team on the road with a winning record? Who is calling the plays this week? What is going on with AR and Olivia? All trivial.
Next summer America will be talking about the 2016 season and who will win the Super Bowl. You can bet the Packers will certainly be in the conversation. Be sure to thank MM and TT as they are largely responsible for the success we've had.
Paul Ott Carruth
January 17, 2016 at 06:47 am
Who are the HOF quarterbacks for Cincy and Cleveland again? To win the Super Bowl you have to play in the Super Bowl. Patriots get there on a regular basis. Packers.....not so much.
marpag1
January 17, 2016 at 08:30 am
Not sure why you think the Packers are doing so poorly in getting to the super bowl. Since 1991 only 2 teams have more Superbowl appearances than Green Bay's three: PIT (4) and NE (7). The Packers are tied with the Giants, the Broncos and the Cowboys.
Since 2006, only 5 teams have more Superbowl appearances that Green Bay's one: IND, NYG, PIT and SEA each with two, and NE with three. The Packers are tied ARI, BALT, CHI, DEN, NO and SF.
I'm also a little puzzled as to why people seem to think that if you have a HOF quarterback then you really ought to be in the super bowl virtually every year. Have people stopped to actually count how many slam dunk or very probable Hall of Famers there are in the league RIGHT NOW? Not to mention how many hall of famers have recently retired? Contrary to the old wives tale, the NFL is almost crawling with HOF quarterbacks.
Since Brett Favre came to town these are HOF guys: Dan Fouts, Joe Montana, Jim Kelly, John Elway, Steve Young, Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Troy Aikman are already in. Brett Favre, Kurt Warner, Tom Brady, and Peyton Manning are slam dunks. Very few would doubt Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers. Russell Wilson is a pretty safe bet. And what about Luck or some of the other young guys? Yeah.... crawling with HOF quarterbacks. Right now, it seems reasonable to say that 25% of the league has a likely hall of famer at QB.
Having an HOF quarterback like Aaron Rodgers certainly doesn't mean that you are the only show in town.
AngryPackersFan
January 17, 2016 at 10:57 am
Good points overall. HOF QB guarantees nothing. Of course without one, how often does a team win the SB? Ravens seem to be the exception.
I wante to note the Seahawks have been to the SB 3 times since 1991. Twice in a row, plus after the 2004 season (against the Steelers)
marpag1
January 17, 2016 at 11:10 am
You're right, APF. I missed that one. In fact, I suppose I could have added the Bills too, although their run of three straight SB losses actually began in 1990. Thanks for the catch.
Paul Ott Carruth
January 17, 2016 at 06:47 am
Who are the HOF quarterbacks for Cincy and Cleveland again? To win the Super Bowl you have to play in the Super Bowl. Patriots get there on a regular basis. Packers.....not so much.
craiginator1
January 17, 2016 at 01:08 am
As someone who suffered through the 70's and 80's, I agree that we have a lot to be pleased about as Packers fans, and that is despite living in NH in the midst of the the NE Patriots and their insufferable fans. Would I rather have AR or Brady? Quite frankly, despite Brady's record of 4 SB's, AR i(and Favre before) , is a preferable spokesman for my team. Brady is a winner, but a total DB . I hope this season steels my Packers; they seemed like the chosen team headed into the season and kind of took things for granted. I hope this extends to Ted Thompson, who does a great job but avoids a huge opportunity in using free agency and experienced players to improve the team, for the most part. There is a lot to ponder, but a lot available to get the team and fans to reach the championship in SB LI.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 01:26 am
Now that's some perspective. Thanks. 2011 hurt the most, slightly ahead of last year, because we lost at home, and to the Giants.. That was the second time the unthinkable happened, like 2007 losing to the Giants, at home. Aargh , will haunt me forever
some_guy
January 17, 2016 at 12:10 am
The 3 man rush in the red zone worked all season, and it worked in this game too. At this point I think Nagler's negative response to heavy zone looks is some kind of gut thing that transcends fact.
All I really have to say is this: the team put out a performance you could be proud to watch. If Arizona isn't the best team in the league then they're second to the Patriots, and we made them look ordinary for the vast majority of this game. That's more than I expected, and it's all I ask. Go Pack.
porupack
January 17, 2016 at 12:23 am
Email to Defense (that never posted)
Make sure to cover #11. He can torch you.
Marco
January 17, 2016 at 12:26 am
Putting all the positives aside, a solid championship caliber team knows how and when to put the other team away. The Pack always seems to keep the other team hanging around way too long. Letting the
Cards get the go ahead score exposed the Pack and their inability to put the opponent away when they need to. Glad to see the Pack give it a good run though. Fun game to watch, frustrating as it was with all the 'woulda, coulda, shoudas'
ollie418
January 17, 2016 at 12:43 am
Exactly. As soon as they stopped the hurry up they no longer could move the ball. They had the Cardinals on their heels on both offense and defense then they went to zone on D and huddle up on O. Terrible coaching.
Yes, I know the coaches do not drop INT's
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 01:28 am
My point exactly.
craiginator1
January 17, 2016 at 12:27 am
Long time listener, first time adding to the conversation. Tough year, all the way. Boy, despite AR rough stats, he really pulled through in the clutch on more than one occasion. He is the best, the reason we are in the playoffs, but does he trust? Hopefully, the loss to AZ is similar to last playoff loss to AZ in 2009... I wonder if AR didn't just trust his receivers.... I understand he was entitled to it, but Janis and Addredaris really came through today. I guess we should be thrilled about next year, but did we miss an opportunity? I live in NH, Brady-town, and I have seen how he struggles without Gronk. Did AR miss Jordy in the same way, or did he see him as a crutch? The D did well enough with a solid offense. Did Lacy assume too much, and came in too heavy and out of shape? Do we need a solid tight end, instead of someone who can't run through someoneh someone who weighs 60 pounds less (Deone Buchanon)?
I think we need Jordy to open it up, or a tight end who can make defenses fear the seam. Boy, we are so close. Do we keep Peppers, who is not consistent but overall our best pass rusher (assuming Clay in ILD, not OLB). The commentators can talk about 10 1/2 sack, but we all see the game where he disappears. We need to give Clay a break; we are making him work to hard taking guards on run downs and tackles on passing downs. He played a solid game today, and was asked to take on too much all season long. He is expected to be Patrick Willis on running downs and Terrell Suggs on passing downs. He looked like he got worn down in mid to late season, and I think it played a factor in the playoff seeding and our ultimate outcome. He is a hall of fame type of player, but is asked to do too much in the modern game. Boy, we are so close...
@ballark
January 17, 2016 at 12:29 am
I could not be more proud of this team. They gave everything. And then they gave more. The Janis throw was like the Endy Chavez catch vs. St Louis--one of the greatest plays in the history of the sport, that might be forgotten. Just tragic. I will say the biggest loser of tonight was the otherwise great Bob McGinn who wrote a lede and an article so shitty that maybe he should consider hanging it up. When you're so consumed by bitterness that you miss one of the greatest Packer games of all time? I just feel sorry for the guy. Great game, great season. Again, could not be prouder.
craiginator1
January 17, 2016 at 12:51 am
I hope the hail-mary throw and overtime effort just whets the whistle. I recall how the Favre year built upon the playoff efforts before the Super Bowl victory. We had a rough go, hung in there and could have gotten to the next round with a couple of breaks. They are so close, but boy was Masthtay a disappointment; he seemed to have a poor punt when needed and I think he cost them a game, possible even the divisional game today. I was supportive of keeping him this year, but he was a big disappointment.
craiginator1
January 17, 2016 at 12:51 am
I hope the hail-mary throw and overtime effort just whets the whistle. I recall how the Favre year built upon the playoff efforts before the Super Bowl victory. We had a rough go, hung in there and could have gotten to the next round with a couple of breaks. They are so close, but boy was Masthtay a disappointment; he seemed to have a poor punt when needed and I think he cost them a game, possible even the divisional game today. I was supportive of keeping him this year, but he was a big disappointment.
Thegreatreynoldo
January 17, 2016 at 01:56 am
Kudos to the defensive line for holding Arizona to 40 yards rushing on 19 carries. I thought Raji had a really strong outing, and Daniels and Guion as well.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 02:24 pm
Yes it was somewhat forgotten amid all the other amazing plays etc, but that in itself was amazing. If someone said before the game that we would have held them that much.......
Rossonero
January 17, 2016 at 01:58 am
Before the game i posted on a different article that if the Packers can rush for 100 yards or more, force turnovers and not have any turnovers of their own, they'd win, as the Rams and steelers did when they beat arizona. The packers nearly achieved all three, but the dropped INTs will haunt them.
My hat is off to the coaching staff for making the necessary adjustments with a badly banged up team. It sickens to lose any playoff game, but this team suddenly showed up and was ready for a fight rather than the toothless offense we all feared would reappear. Let's get healthy, draft some help, retain some defensive free agents and make another run. This one is gonna hurt for a while though.
Packer_Pete
January 17, 2016 at 07:02 am
To anybody on the ledge out there.
Just imagine you hadn't seen the game, but right after the game someone told you this:
Cobb 0 catches out injured early
J Jones 0 catches
2 RBs combined 19 rushes for 112 yards
And then asked you to guess the final score. If that was me, I'd have probably guessed a similar scoreline like in the game a few weeks ago. Maybe something like 35-7 or so. I would've been pleasantly surprised to hear the game went into OT and that the Packers had the chance to win in regulation. that the D played very well, at least during the regular game. That the 2 young receivers who Rodgers doesn't seem to trust made a lot of plays...
Heartbreaking loss, but I am proud of the way the team played. And they should be proud of their own play also. I know this one will sting for quite some time, but hopefully they will take that for added motivation come the new season! GO PACK GO!
D Ernesto
January 17, 2016 at 09:31 am
Jones was dumped by two teams before Ted got him on the cheap. Reason he was dumped: way to slow route running. Can't get separation from dback to save his life. He is a non factor allowing double coverage on the other guys. janis caught several balls with two guys draped over him. How often did you see two guys draped all over Fitzgerald, Brown, others. Dom's defense is play back, make the tackle. Tired of that bullshit. Either these guys are too slow mentally to press cover or two slow, I think its the latter and the reason other teams passed on these guys, a lack of speed going on there.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 09:59 am
I think that was when they played zone.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 08:02 pm
All true. But I still am pissed that we blew the opportunity to move on because we went away from what got us the lead. No excuse for that but more of the same poor late game coaching that has become all to common.
TommyG
January 17, 2016 at 07:43 am
-I'm saddened by this loss but not crushed.
-Last year's exit was humiliating; this one was more predictable.
-never going to be a fan of the three man rush.
-I think we saw the best our team could do for four quarters. With how injuries mounted and our QB struggled this season I'm not surprised by the outcome.
-I am a bit surprised that a team can dominate the turnover battle, sack the QB many times, shut down a running game, and still lose.
- it was a fun season to me.
-go pack go
keeley2
January 17, 2016 at 08:56 am
Two consecutive play-off losses - zero overtime possessions. Anyone else feel like what if?
DrealynWilliams
January 17, 2016 at 07:58 pm
That's football...
D Ernesto
January 17, 2016 at 09:26 am
I'm going to beat this team like an old mule next season if:.... Dom Capers is still on the team and being adulated for his brilliance..... If, BJ Raji is still on the team and mostly being pushed to the ground and missing tackles all day.... If Davante Adams is the go to guy and Janis sits on the bench..... If Lacy comes to Spring practice 40 pounds over weight and can't bend over to tie his shoes..... If they keep that punter.....If Dom has Mathews playing 4 positions again....If we hear how the O line has suffered a ton on ankle injuries during the pre season and carried on throughout...if we have to keep 2 fullbacks when most teams have zero but have extra O linemen healthy to fill in.
The team has to improve the above or are doomed to repeat and probably worse next year. It ain't like the Bears and Lions are not going to get better.
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 10:10 am
2 FBs, Yes that was a waste because Ripkowski rarely played. Thought he would last night. Why? Same reason as Janis and to a lesser degree Abby, I guess. MM can be stubborn to a fault .
Tundraboy
January 17, 2016 at 10:18 am
Since 61,Where are you? . Surprised no posts from you. Hope all is well. Curious to see your thoughts on game.
Since'61
January 17, 2016 at 10:43 am
Tough, tough loss. At least we did not defeat ourselves or collapse until the one play in OT. I posted that we would need to a play a perfect game and we almost did except for a few early penalties and the dropped picks by Shields. Considering we lost Cobb fairly early in the game AR , Janis and Abbrederis played great. Let's not forget that we never had good field position to start any of our drives and we had some very long time consuming drives. We didn't get any breaks on AZ second TD drives. 2 spots that could have either way. A drop by Shields, bad officiating and then a tipped pass for a TD. Just unbelievable and snakebite. But the Packers played great and I'm proud of them. Off to Beijing for business and try to forget this loss. Go Pack! Thanks, Since '61
WinUSA
January 17, 2016 at 01:28 pm
Good luck to you '61.. Have enjoyed your post this year....see you next Summer.
WinUSA
January 17, 2016 at 01:12 pm
Reaction on the game : I have been a Packer fan for over a half a century I have missed but handful of games. Today I am contemplating this team of 2015 to 2016 team that started out so promising but for health of the team and the luck of the team our Super Bowl dreams were not realize this year. This year is finished on a sad note ...but no different a note than that of every other fan in the nation whose ream did not make it to the Super Bowl. I will say this about yesterday's game I am proud of our team ...they gave it their all that's all I could ever ask of the men of gold and green. They were warriors and they made me proud to call myself a Green Bay Packer fan. For to be able to say this makes me one of an elite number of friends that I have not met but I know that if I did meet them, the fact that they shared this commonality would always bring the words "Go Pack" followed with a smile. I just could not ask for more. To all these good people I wish them a warm and happy year...with good fortune I will see another football season kickoff and know that we will share another Packer season... But for now I will bask in the memory of yesterday's game and be proud of this team.
Gopack12
January 17, 2016 at 01:20 pm
Frequent visitor first time comment: I know this is a disappointing loss for all of us diehards but hears some therapy for those on the ledge.. The future is bright wth #12in his prime, Jordy , Cobb, Ty, Abby and Janis.. (Adams has a lot to prove before I'll add him to the list) Lacy will come back motivated and 30 pounds lighter in a contract year. Need to draft a TE that can run the seam and occupy the safety. I love our defense . Defensive backfield is set for years to come with Shields, Randle. Rollins , Burnett and HaHa.. Need to keep Peppers and move Mathews back outside.. Barrington and Ryan will suffice in the middle Raji , Daniels, Giuon, on the inside with Perry , Neal , D jones all in the pass rush rotation. We have a favorable second place schedule for a change with match ups with the worst two division in football NFC East and AFC South.. Draft a stud TE and see you at Superbowl 51
paxbak
January 18, 2016 at 06:17 am
Rodgers needs to regain old form. His accuracy is a third of what makes him great and he lost that this year. Mobility/pocket awareness and strong arm he still has. If the accuracy doesn't come back, this team is a yearly playoff loser. I think that will be our key to 2016.