Believe half of what you read.

Well I guess FOs are not known for saying one thing and then doing the other on draft day. Or telling different people differently things. Could it be they might not want others to know their intentions?

Let it go. Let the other teams rumored to be looking go. They aren’t going to tell you if they were, or Silva either.

Yes, we know. If only they would hire you.

If it’s so suspect, how do we keep winning? Why aren’t we like Cleveland, or Detroit?

Answer: The people who work at 1265 are good at their jobs. It’s not more complicated than that.

This is so true. I got into it last week with another poster on exactly that topic. Being a fan doesn't mean you don't have a brain.

To be fair with Gute
In FA he missed big time with Graham he hit a home run last year with 3 of the 4 guys. This year we do not know yet. It looks to me that the main problem is still unsolve a run stuffer. I don´t think Hester is the solution, lost the hope with M. Adams and maybe Willis could be the guy but is a big ?.

The draft 2018 looks pretty bad other than Alexander right now, maybe EQ could improve the draft class, no hopes for Burks very low football IQ, Jackson is not a CB for the Packers system as discussed in other post by several people. MVS if he plays like the first games last year could be good if he plays like the rest of the season cut the guy. Scott an inconsistent punter. Madison does not look good. Bradley is good I guess, since we never heard anything.
The 2019 draft. The jury still out on Gary we will know more this coming season, Savage looked good, Jenkins looked pretty good and Sternberger with a very limited sample looked promissing. If the 4 are good it will be a A+ draft.
2020 draft Love is a bad pick in terms of salary cap management and win now strategy, maybe the guy is a future HOF. No body knows yet, but he better be for Gute, because I think his career as Packers GM is linked to this pick.
I would say that we will have a pretty good idea about how good or bad Gute is in a couple of years.

Correlation between Draft Position and "Starter Status"
Using Pro Football Reference as a resource, I looked at all players who were classified as starters at the beginning of the 2014 season to determine what round they were drafted in upon entering the league.  Of the 595 players designated as such, the results reveal the following:

Nearly 30% of all starters were 1st round draft picks when drafted into the league;
-          Roughly 30% were taken in either the 2nd or 3rd round;
-          Roughly 26% were taken in either rounds 4 through 7;
-          Undrafted players (14%) were the 3rd most likely group to comprise 2014’s starters…only behind 1st round (30%) and 2nd round (18%) picks.

Pretty darn obvious LaFleur has a plan. The one he was hired to bring in and the one they have all but spelled out in words of one syllable since the draft.

I’m not sure I like it, but it’s a plan Murphy set in train when he hired LaFleur. I get not agreeing with it, but not being able to identify it I find baffling.

I wonder what Kizer's 3 cone time between his ears is? How does that compare to Love's? :D

For Kizer, it was definitely between the ears.

He came out of college at least one, possibly two, years too early. the maturity wasn't there. That was also a problem for Johnny Manziel who also came out too early.

Cleveland had a problem with QBs besides these two.

We wanted Randall gone. Cleveland had seen enough of Kizer. That’s all this was.

I, too, think the contract extension on Rodgers was unnecessary.

And we should have drafted Lamar Jackson.

No doubt in my mind that trading Randall was about getting rid of him for whatever they could get. As Nags said, he was their best CB so they couldn't cut him after he quit that game at halftime vs the Bears. But he was gone in the offseason. Taking another team's early round pick trash was probably the best they could get.

My hope is that we don't expect Love to replicate him, but rather to make his own way. The same things were said when Favre exited and Rodgers took the stage: is he big enough to fill these shoes with the fans? In Rodgers' case, the answer was yes. Love will have that same pressure if/when the time comes, even if he proves to be a completely different kind of QB. I think your post is on the mark.

bah, you make too much sense, ill still give. a thumbs up though..

If all Love ever becomes is a quality backup, then the pick was an epic fail and Gute should be fired, along with MLF.

You can not possibly be suggesting that having a know-nothing owner effecting football decisions in any way is at all a positive.

Good grief.

I read this also, I disagree. Those franchises that entrust their personnel decisions to the GM regardless of structure are those that have the most success. Jerry Jones is Owner, GM, marketer, jury and Judge and the Cowboys have failed to see success because of it. A meddling owner is a disaster waiting to happen. Let your people do their jobs. That's why you hired them, as they understand an aspect of the business you do not.

Not listening to personnel people and scouts resulted in the Packers trading 5 picks for Hadl, not drafting Joe Montana and drafting Tony Mandarich......man I am glad I was a toddler in those dark days.....

Yes, not sure I buy that piece. A savvy owner makes money. Money is predicated as much if not more in future projections as current revenue. If my QB is aging and I as an owner can sign one I can potentially see taking us into the next decade, good business to do so. This is particularly true if I don’t own 100 percent.

Dallas took Dalton to back up or replace Zak. They could have bagged Love, but went with Lamb despite signing Cooper to big cash. Does anyone else smell a McCarthy brain meltdown happening like lightening striking twice. I put my money on Love.

"would most likely never have allowed his/her GM to move up and select a speculative QB talent in the first round (giving up a 4th round pick) with resulting locker room chaos."

What locker room chaos? There hasn't been a locker room for 3 and a half months.

I think you are right on the confidence and developing bad habits. Doubt and second guessing can undermine the greatest physical gifts and slow processing. He would have been better almost anywhere else. Many QBs over the years have been supposedly ruined that way. For those that remember what Rodgers looked like in year one, it makes one wonder how he would have faired in that situation.

The coaching staff will have to decide whether they want Love to sit for all of 2020 even if AR goes down. I, too, think Love might be damaged if forced to play this year, but I don't know and will defer to the coaches should that decision have to be made.

I don't mean that Love can't get his feet wet if the right circumstance arise in 2020. But I don't want the weight of being the starting QB for the Green Bay Packers to fall on his shoulders unless the coaches feel he can handle it. They get to observe him, talk to him and judge his intangibles.