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Ty Montgomery, Davante Adams

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NickPerry's picture

October 21, 2016 at 06:14 am

The Good...

A Packers win. Granted it's against a 1-6 Bears team, but it's against a team that had won 2 of the last 3 at Lambeau, even though one win was the game Rodgers busted his collarbone.

Kenny Clark.... I love the way Clark played tonight. He should have brought down the RB on a longer run, but he read it and got down the line so damn fast it was still a good play. It was a play or 2 later when he tackled the RB for a loss in the BF.

Blake Martinez.. Watching him after the INT was hilarious! He didn't know if he should run or celebrate.

The Bad...

Crosby... A week after I give him props he blows his 1st XP in 2 years and has a FG blocked. He WAS one of the last to have not missed a point since moving it back but still. More on the O-Line obviously on the block but dang.

ME... I finally benched Rodgers in EVERY Fantasy Football league and he has over 23 points...LOL

Ugly... The RB position. My God Thompson what did you do? The Packers were thin at the START of the season. Now Lacy is done for the season I'd say and most likely as a Packer. Even if he was able to come back this season I doubt he'll be in any kind of Football shape.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 06:33 am

So many people were upset that the Packers took Clark in the first round... He is showing why he was taken in the first round. He is already impressive and he continues to get better.

Martinez another rookie who is making an impact.

'ME... I finally benched Rodgers in EVERY Fantasy Football league and he has over 23 points...LOL'
I did something similar. I had Randall Cobb in my offense and he has done almost nothing for me all year. I went and picked up Montgomery yesterday and put him in my flex position ahead of Cobb. Cobb gets 28 points and Montgomery had 22. Figures... lol. I would have been much worse had Cobb caught those other 2 TD's.

RB's -
First Lacy gets hurt then plays the next game hurt with no other RB's. Starks has surgery and is out for a few weeks. Bring up Jackson from the PS, and he plays a handful of snaps and he gets hurt... WTF???

It sounded like last night after the game that Jackson didn't break anything, so hopefully he will be ready to go in the next game.

But Montgomery... Talk about an explosive RB. He isn't going to over power anyone, but he breaks tackles and he adds speed to the position. I'm happy to have him that is for sure.

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NickPerry's picture

October 21, 2016 at 06:55 am

Jackson is not the answer at RB IMO. I wish him a speedy recovery with his injury but if the Packers are going to have any Running Game I think it will have to come from Davis or someone else not on the roster. I mean Thompson HAS to go sign another RB or 2 doesn't he? Montgomery is a nice twist and is bigger than Cobb but he's still not the guy the Packers want to use on 4th and goal from the one. Although if he would have been able to extend his arms at all that would have been a TD. He was securing the ball first and foremost and rightfully so.

LOL... I actually played Cobb in several leagues. Now if I could just play them BOTH at the right time...Like last night..

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 07:11 am

I'm not saying Jackson is the answer. But you know what, I did like what I saw out of him. He runs hard. He has some serious quickness to him. Something we haven't had in a while.

I would like to know how far away Starks is.

I love Montgomery in the backfield. He is a mismatch as a receiving RB. I only caution the Packers to not over use him. He seemed to wear down late in the game and couldn't make people miss like he did early in the game.

I completely agree thought about the 4th and 1. As the game wore on the more I thought about it. Why not use Ripkowksi as the RB in that situation. If they want put Daniels in at FB in that situation. Ripkowksi runs with some serious Power. Give him a chance!

lol, right....

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jh9's picture

October 21, 2016 at 07:54 am

On the fourth and goal 1 yard line play, I couldn't believe what MM called: Montgomery up the middle?!

If you're going to call a run up the middle and all your true RBs are injured, why wouldn't you give the ball on a play up the middle to a guy who has shown he can push a pile. I mean every time Ripkowski runs the ball it looks like a rugby scrum. Besides giving him the ball in that situation, why not bring in Spriggs as a tackle eligible and have him blocking in front of Rip to get 1 yard and a TD.

In my opinion, It's plays like that when MM rightly deserves criticism.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:05 am

Exactly. i said in another post the same thing. Why not give the ball to Ripkowski on a power play? He is a freaking Bull... Maybe put Daniels or something in at FB and have Ripkowski at RB.

I just didn't like that play call. The only thing I did like about it. Was that he didn't put everyone in tight. He spread them out at least.

I agree with the criticism.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:20 am

While I noted Clark making that tackle on the sideline as a nice play, I liked Clark better on one of the ensuing plays: Took on the OL, Shed, form tackle of the RB for loss. Textbook.

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Idiot Fan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:54 am

I actually kind of liked the 4th down play call. What I hate is when we run it up the middle, but we bring in all these blockers and make it obvious that we're going to run it up the middle, so there's a million defenders in there clogging things up. Here MM had the receiver bunch to the left and Monty in the backfield. I honestly thought they were going to pass it, which I think was the point. It gave Monty a lot more room in the middle to run. Unfortunately that first hit took a lot of his momentum away. Still, I like the call better than just running Rip in an obvious run play personally.

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Bohj's picture

October 21, 2016 at 12:50 pm

I'm going to divert from the common opinion here. I actually like the play a lot. The reason it didn't work is because Janis missed his block from the FB position as the DE came crashing in. He didn't even get a body on him. It looked like he actually moved out of the way. I'd have to look at the play again. If Janis makes the Block, Monty has plenty of momentum to get in.

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mrtundra's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:17 am

At least have Rip in to block for Montgomery, if not actually letting him run it himself.

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jyros's picture

October 21, 2016 at 10:06 am

Agreed; #22 would have pushed for the half yard needed.

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Bohj's picture

October 21, 2016 at 12:51 pm

I did look at the play again. Janis was definitely lined up at the FB position. Rip would have made more sense there for sure.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 06:27 am

Good: 2nd half offense.

Bad: First half Redzone offense

Ugly: Chicago Bears

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NickPerry's picture

October 21, 2016 at 06:30 am

Hey RC...2 Weeks in a row for the guy we've "Begged" to see more playing time. Better late than never but WTF took so long McCarthy???

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 06:36 am

Exactly Right!!!

You know, I'm curious though why we haven't seen more of Trevor Davis at WR? He really hasn't played much since the Lions game.

With Janis messing up a few times, and being short at WR and RB, I would have liked to have seen Davis used more.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 21, 2016 at 07:04 am

Thats next I hope.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 07:12 am

He has the speed to burn people deep. We could use him on the field more IMO.

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dobber's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:53 am

Assuming the Packers continue playing this way, DBs are going to start jumping the short stuff against this offense pretty soon. That should open up the deeper part of the field, even if the WR aren't proficient at getting downfield separation. For guys like Janis and Davis, it should create real opportunities.

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Bohj's picture

October 21, 2016 at 12:56 pm

I have the feeling, the organization is over playing young receivers before they are ready. That was the story all of last year. A lot of these guys are a year older, and it's showing. I'm actually more surprised Davis has had as many snaps as he has. I do like his speed. I would also like to see more. We have to remember that times seem to be changing. When Clay entered the league, it took half the year to get him on the field behind the "starters". Seems like we're throwing alot of rookies in more early these days. I know injury and attrition have played a role.

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Packer_Pete's picture

October 21, 2016 at 07:15 am

Good: D only giving up 3 points the whole game. Doesn't matter if it was against 3rd string QB mostly.

Bad: Rodgers - still not accurate, hesitant, and careless with the football. Play selection in 1st half. Refs - some phantom calls out there, but mostly to the Packers benefit.

Ugly: Goodson - can't cover anybody. Crosby - but rather in this game when he really wasn't needed...

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 07:42 am

I agree Rodgers still wasn't perfect. But a lot of it wasn't his fault either. WR's were not getting open.

In the first half Rodgers completed 19 of 30 passes for 150 yards and 0 TD's.
In the second half Rodgers completed 20 of 26 passes for 179 yards and 3 TD's.

The 2nd half, he really came on. He got into a rhythm and just kept hitting his WR's.
The 1st half his numbers would have looked a lot better had Cobb caught those 2 TD passes.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:38 am

The first half really happened too. Rodgers was inaccurate again. As for the WRs being open, it really matters when that picture is taken. It takes AR 1.42 seconds to receive the shotgun snap and take a 3 step drop. The WRs run their ISO routes and seem to tend to run right at the DB. At the stem they make their move. If the video is frozen right when they are about to make their cut, the WRs are always going to look covered.

CB Jacoby Glenn isn't very good. CB Bausby makes Gunter look like Revis in his prime. Carey averaged 4.8 yds with Hoyer (2nd q/Barkely constituting . Floyd got 2 sacks.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:38 am

The first half really happened too. Rodgers was inaccurate again. As for the WRs being open, it really matters when that picture is taken. It takes AR 1.42 seconds to receive the shotgun snap and take a 3 step drop. The WRs run their ISO routes and seem to tend to run right at the DB. At the stem they make their move. If the video is frozen right when they are about to make their cut, the WRs are always going to look covered.

CB Jacoby Glenn isn't very good. CB Bausby makes Gunter look like Revis in his prime. Carey averaged 4.8 yds with Hoyer (2nd q/Barkely constituting . Floyd got 2 sacks.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:38 am

The first half really happened too. Rodgers was inaccurate again. As for the WRs being open, it really matters when that picture is taken. It takes AR 1.42 seconds to receive the shotgun snap and take a 3 step drop. The WRs run their ISO routes and seem to tend to run right at the DB. At the stem they make their move. If the video is frozen right when they are about to make their cut, the WRs are always going to look covered.

CB Jacoby Glenn isn't very good. CB Bausby makes Gunter look like Revis in his prime. Carey averaged 4.8 yds with Hoyer (2nd q/Barkely constituting . Floyd got 2 sacks.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:38 am

The first half really happened too. Rodgers was inaccurate again. As for the WRs being open, it really matters when that picture is taken. It takes AR 1.42 seconds to receive the shotgun snap and take a 3 step drop. The WRs run their ISO routes and seem to tend to run right at the DB. At the stem they make their move. If the video is frozen right when they are about to make their cut, the WRs are always going to look covered.

CB Jacoby Glenn isn't very good. CB Bausby makes Gunter look like Revis in his prime. Carey averaged 4.8 yds with Hoyer (2nd q/Barkely constituting . Floyd got 2 sacks.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:52 am

The first half really happened too. Rodgers was inaccurate again. As for the WRs being open, it really matters when that picture is taken. It takes AR 1.42 seconds to receive the shotgun snap and take a 3 step drop. The WRs run their ISO routes and seem to tend to run right at the DB. At the stem they make their move. If the video is frozen right when they are about to make their cut, the WRs are always going to look covered. I can't say that our WRs toasted the defense, but I thought their separation was somewhere between marginal to decent.

CB Jacoby Glenn isn't very good. CB Bausby makes Gunter look like Revis in his prime. Carey averaged 4.8 yds with Hoyer (2nd q/Barkely constituting . Floyd got 2 sacks. Given that Sitton was out, Long got hurt mid-2nd quarter, I am a little disappointed with just 1 sack and 5 QB hits, but given the way the game was going, I don't think Capers tried to amp up the rush.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:49 am

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Packer_Pete's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:56 am

wow TGR, what happened there? hit send a few times?

but your observation of the Bears CBs is spot on. Worst secondary in the NFL.

I think Dom was content of limiting the run, knowing that the Bears WRs are also not very good, and rather protecting his young secondary. Goodson is a major liability. One can only hope against Atlanta to have both Randall and Rollins back. At least one of them. But if Goodson is ahead of Hawkins, how bad is Hawkins??? Yet I'd rather take Goodson than Bausby or Glenn...

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 23, 2016 at 01:02 am

I don't know what happened here. I remember trying to edit and the incomplete edit got submitted. These extra ones did not show up on my monitor - I only saw the original and the edited one, so I deleted one. Now I see all of these. Weird, no real explanation.

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Packer_Pete's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:53 am

"WR's were not getting open" - we really have to stop this narrative. it's simply not true. and I don't care whether Phil Simms repeats it all the time. If you freeze the pic at a certain moment it may appear so. but if you look at the flow of the game and play, then you will see WRs are open all the time. the definition of 'open' in the NFL is not being 5 yards from the CB. It means that there is a spot where the QB can place the ball so that only 3 things can happen:
1) WR catches it, and he is the only one who can get to it unimpeded
2) incompletion
3) foul by the DB

i was laughing out loud a few times, when Simms repeated his BS and they showed the replay, it was clear (except for one occasion) that at least 1 if not 2 receivers were open during every play. But Rodgers had some terrible ball placement (e.g. on the first Adams TD where Adams caught the ball very well). Plays like the one where Adams and Monty were crossing and both Bears CBs left Adams wide open for the easy TD don't happen very often in the NFL. And even then, the throw was not that good, but Adams again made a good catch.

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dobber's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:09 am

"Bad: Rodgers - still not accurate, hesitant, and careless with the football."

A couple things on that strip fumble...Floyd comes around the outside virtually untouched. Bulaga and Barclay, who's in on the play for Lang, get blown up by the DE, creating traffic around ARod. Montgomery runs right by Floyd as he releases...was he supposed to get a chip? Who knows. But absent the chip, Bulaga releases late to catch Floyd and tries to push him past the play, but Floyd makes a very athletic play to get Rodgers from behind. Better ball security? Yep. Would be great. But Floyd made a very athletic play and his DE did a good job of setting him up for it.

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Bohj's picture

October 21, 2016 at 12:59 pm

We have to all remember what Goodson is:
He is a number 5 on the depth chart. Shields, Rollins, Randall, Gunter, Hyde, Maybe even Hawkins here. Ok. So 6 on the depth chart. He is playing exactly how I expect a #6 CB to play.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:01 am

Good

Adams, Monty, Clark and Brices play and hit as a gunner.

Bad

1st half

Ugly

Rodger's fumble

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:08 am

Man, Brice can hit. he also had a big hit on that 3rd and long play that ended up getting brought back due to OL being down field.

I would like to see him get used more often.

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Amanofthenorth's picture

October 21, 2016 at 05:17 pm

This is a first down for sure...then wham! Who the heck did that?

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ORIGINAL PACKATTACK's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:55 am

like I mentioned in other column- Martinez had rookie moment- Don't forget in college, play is dead when he hit ground--it took a few seconds for him to realize he could still run with ball in NFL.
Good- we should think about trying more of this west coast offense thing, short quick passes: who knew it could work.
bad-Rodgers needs to change his hand lotion so he quits fumbling.
Ugly-any chance Goodson can play RB?

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Packer_Pete's picture

October 21, 2016 at 08:57 am

"bad-Rodgers needs to change his hand lotion so he quits fumbling." - LOL. Maybe he found it in the cabinet of his GF - Hollywood standard issue?

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Since'61's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:20 am

Good - Ty Montgomery, D. Adams, OL, A. Rodgers, Perry and Clark
Bad - Goodson, CM3, Cobb cost 2TDs
Ugly - Missed PAT, blocked FG

Rest up and get some guys back for Atlanta. Figure out how to cover Julio Jones.

Thanks, Since '61

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

October 21, 2016 at 09:37 am

Thought Gunter's play (especially early) was quite good. We were all so down on him after last week. Looks like he had the short memory you need at CB.

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jyros's picture

October 21, 2016 at 10:18 am

The Invisible: Jordy Nelson
Seems he's playing hesitant, playing safe and
Sliding the pay check into his pocket.

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al bundy's picture

October 21, 2016 at 11:10 am

I think he lost more than a step. He is not runnig away from anyone and that was his forte speed. Father time caught up to him is all. AInt like he is not trying but you cant coach speed.

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al bundy's picture

October 21, 2016 at 11:06 am

Good: Someone coming up with a creative way to run the ball and make plays without lacy left lacy right

Bad: The fact that Adams and others had career nights against the worst D in football. This is season two and he is just not making moves?

Ugly: The lack of separation of our receivers. To me its just plain a lack of speed and route running. Jordy has lost a lot of speed. He aint yound anymore folks.

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stockholder's picture

October 21, 2016 at 11:25 am

The Good. MMs game plan. I said early in the week that A-rod had to Pass,Pass, Pass, to get back on track. The play of Montgomery and Adams was excellent. (For A-Rod) Clarke, Perry, and the defense as a unit. The bad: I thought A-rod held on to the ball still looking down the field to much. ( Especially that 2nd half. ) The ugly - The holder for crosby better get his crap together.

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Jon Schloesser's picture

October 22, 2016 at 09:59 am

The Good - Impressed with how Gunter rebounded. Great to see Adams step out.

The Bad - Anyone notice that every time Don Barclay gets on the field bad things happen. The sack fumble happened because he didn't block the twist correctly and Bulaga had to help him. What on God's green earth is he still doing on this team. Anyone else .... please

The Ugly - Rodgers played much better, but accuca. The announcers over emphasis on the receivers not getting open was ridiculous.

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NMPF's picture

October 23, 2016 at 10:04 am

Good- a real WC offense. D giving up 3 pts. Bad- O giving up 7pts. Ugly- Bottom of the 46 forced into action, Goodson, Barclay, Janis. Color commentators as a whole.

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