Top 3 Reasons To Keep Jordan Love

Aaron Rodgers is back, which begs the question: What will the Packers do with Jordan Love. Here's 3 good reasons why they should keep him.

With Aaron Rodgers returning to the Packers on a record-breaking mega-deal, the team has a decision to make on backup Jordan Love.

There's a lot of rumors and scenarios floating around that they might trade Jordan Love, but let's not forget that they could just keep him, despite Aaron Rodgers's return. 

Why would they do such a thing?

I'm so glad you asked - here are the top 3 reasons why the Packers might keep Jordan Love:

1) He's still the long-term answer at quarterback
There's no reason to think he can't wait a little longer, continue to develop, and become the starting quarterback. Rodgers may not finish his entire contract, and when he leaves, it sure would be convenient to have a quarterback embedded in the system and ready to start. Some people seem to think there's this angle that says Jordan Love would be "mad" after sitting so long and want to leave. I don't get that. If a team spends four or five years developing him and he knows the system inside out, has relationships with the coaches, and familiarity with the players, why on earth would he want to go somewhere else and start all over again? That makes no sense. He could still be the long-term plan, even if the term is a little longer than originally thought.

2) Matt LaFleur
Jordan Love has not lit up defenses in his very limited playing time, but he didn't look hopeless, either. He's only 23 (younger than this draft's potential QB1, Kenny Pickett) and still learning. He may not be a Hall of Famer, but he has skills and talent. If there is a coach in this league that can build a competitive team around that, it's Matt LaFleur. Look back at his history and see what he did with RGIII, Matt Ryan, Ryan Tannehill, even Aaron Rodgers. He gets the most out of quarterbacks and give Jordan Love his best chance for success in this league.

3) There's no good trade offers
Trades are funny things (especially when the Bears are concerned). A team that trades away a player always knows more about the player and their value that the team that is receiving the player. No team has seen Jordan Love more than the Packers. Forget his minimal preseason work, one regular season start, and some garbage time appearances - that's nothing compared to the number of reps and the development curve the Packers coaches and front office have witnesses over the last two years. If they have a high opinion of him, it would take a leap of faith for another team to give up enough for the Packers to think it's worthwhile. The teams that could use a young quarterback prospect may not be sold on him based on his limited public appearances to offer enough for the Packers to give him up.

The Packers have the flexibility to trade Love if they want, and a lot of fans would probably like that.

But if they don't, we can be pretty confident there's a fairly good reason for it.

 

Bruce Irons has played, coached, and studied football for decades. Best-selling author of books such as A Fan's Guide To Understanding The NFL Draft, A Fan's Guide To Understanding The NFL Salary Cap, and A Fan's Guide To NFL Free Agency Hits And Misses, Bruce contributes to CheeseHeadTV and PackersForTheWin.com.

Follow Bruce Irons on Twitter at @BruceIronsNFL.

 

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Cubbygold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 06:29 am

Isn't the #1 reason to keep him - he's the cheapest option and money is tight

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

March 27, 2022 at 06:39 am

Honestly, it's weird that Bruce doesn't even mention that.

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Rarescope's picture

March 27, 2022 at 07:24 am

But if he did there would be no reason to keep the rumor mill running.

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PeteK's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:27 am

Mannion, Daniel, and Allen would be the same or a bit cheaper. Main reason by far, young and still developing.

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Minniman's picture

March 27, 2022 at 02:28 pm

Frankly I’d forgotten the fact that he was only 21 when drafted. He may well be like Kenny Clark (19 when drafted) who needed a couple of extra years to mature before ascending into the position- admittedly QB is (obviously) scales of magnitude harder.

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greengold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:45 am

Damn, Cubbygold, that just makes WAY too much sense.

Funny, I hadn’t considered another angle to this. Love is so well versed in our system, Gutekunst can legit keep just 2QBs on the 53, freeing up a roster spot.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

March 27, 2022 at 06:44 am

I didn't like the pick, and I like this year's Ridder and Pickett more than I liked Love, but I do believe Love can be about as good as Dak Prescott, which should be good enough to win a Super Bowl if you have everybody else playing well.

A reminder that for Love's only start, in the Kansas City game, he had ONE on-field practice, because Rodgers got Covid and they had to travel. Judging him by that game is ludicrous, and he wasn't that bad for a guy under constant pass-rush pressure.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:30 am

He would be the #1 qb in this draft by a wide margain.

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scoonie_penn's picture

March 27, 2022 at 06:46 am

You forgot, FO hubris and ego. It's the same reason Oren Burks lasted through his rookie contract. It's difficult for ppl to admit they were wrong and move on.

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KenEllis's picture

March 27, 2022 at 07:32 am

And we have a winner.

If the Front Office believed Love was the answer Rodgers would have been traded this offseason or last.

Instead, the Front Office has gotten on its knees to beg (and pay) Rodgers to return and run it back yet again.

Trading Jordan Love would make clear to every NFL fan outside of the Green & Gold wearing loyalists what a complete boneheaded move it was to spend 1st and 4th round picks on him when a WR needy team could have selected Tee Higgins, Michael Pittman, or Chase Claypool instead.

Much better to hide the Love pick on the bench for yet another year behind Rodgers and.keep having compliant members of the press sell the fantasy that Love is the future to those among the fan base unwilling to acknowledge reality..

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PearlyBakerBest's picture

March 27, 2022 at 07:57 am

When I say basically this exact same thing I get called a douche.

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KenEllis's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:23 am

Who says you are not a douche? :)

But come on, if the Pack thought Love was the future they would have moved on from the QB who savaged the organization last year (surely Packer fans who don't just read puff pieces like this one understand how the organization is perceived around the rest of the NFL at this point).

And if GB was truly ALL IN and Love was worth anything in a trade the trade would have been made during this offseason of QB trading frenzy, but that did not happen.

Follow the evidence folks.

The most likely reason Jordan Love is still a Green Bay Packer with absolutely no hope of playing in 2022 or 2023 (unless Rodgers gets injured, retires, or demands a trade) is because there is little to no market for his services and thus trading him would just make the Front Office that much worse for taking him in the first place (unless trading 1st and 4th round draft picks for a backup QB who you have no desire to play is now considered a wise investment).

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:29 am

Does the brain trust self-scout?

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greengold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:52 am

Ken, I disagree with you here.

I’ve been hating on Aaron Rodgers since last year’s Draft Day 1 garbage. That being said, I admit I may have been overzealous.

It is possible the ultimate plan both Rodgers and the FO came up with was to give Rodgers one or two more shots at it, with a gentleman’s agreement to a retire or trade in year 3 of his newly signed deal.

If THAT is the case, keeping Love to take over might have enormous benefits, besides those Bruce mentioned in this article.

Imagine how welcome additional cap relief will be in Love getting an extension…

It’s a positive plan, if GB can get out from under some of the dead monies. I don’t know those mechanisms tho.

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TarynsEyes's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:55 am

"with a gentleman’s agreement"

That is ridiculously funny.

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croatpackfan's picture

March 28, 2022 at 11:31 am

Who should be gentlemen in that agreement?

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Johnblood27's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:50 am

thats because you are. ;-)

and your boy KenEllis too! ;-)

I dislike the name calling, I will stop, we are all Packer fans, we just have different opinions sometimes.

It just makes me mad when a supposed Packer fan says derogatory statements about a Packer players abilities that have no basis in fact and no apparent evidence.

I am all for criticizing players for their shortcomings, that is one half of what fandom is and how improvement opportunities are illustrated, the other half of fandom being praise for performances well done, but trying to keep it all fact based can be challenging at times.

P.S. - I didn't say you ARE a douche, I said you were BEING a douche, and we all get a little douchy now and then...

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wildbill's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:07 am

I agree….. Love=Kizer 2.0

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13TimeChamps's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:08 am

Why...because they're both black?

You're seriously comparing a QB who started for a full season with a crappy team to a QB who has played 6 quarters? What exactly is the basis for your comparison?

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wildbill's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:09 pm

I just post that to see who starts crying, you hiding in your safe spot?

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PearlyBakerBest's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:17 am

I might have some douchey tendencies.

Well I’ll give it to you that my original post you replied to was vague. But I’m not a supposed Packer fan. The FO has had two years to evaluate JL, no preseason or not and they had two choices. Roll with Love or destroy the future.

Like I said before. If they think he’s the guy, they’ll be paying him $20 mil in the final year in his first year as a starter in a year with a $70 mil cap charge. IMO, that doesn’t seem likely. The writing is on the dead money. I agree with Ken.

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PeteK's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:42 am

A large part of the debate will be answered after the next preseason. If we see little improvement, it will be on to plan B. However, I think Love will make a good sized improvement.

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greengold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:00 am

I’m just going to come out and say it: I prefer being addressed as “Filthy Douchenozzle,” should that need ever present for any of my friends here….

That is all.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:24 am

Professor Filthy Douchenozzle has a particularly spicy ring to it.

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greengold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:36 am

Oooooooooooooo! “Professor…!!!” Me likey.

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HawkPacker's picture

March 27, 2022 at 12:12 pm

The Essence of Douchbaggery!

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Johnblood27's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:07 pm

I really do not want to think about the filthy douchenozzle handle.

The location that perpetuated the "filthy" aspect of said douchnozzle is just beyond comprehension in my insulated little world...

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:23 am

I think it would have been much more of an ego move to trade number 12 for a boatload of draft picks and build a team around the quarterback you chose. Instead, they swallowed their pride and extended a quarterback who won back to back MVP awards. Given that Love didn’t even get an off-season his first year in the league, it seems very reasonable to me that he might not yet be ready. They chose Jordan love because number 12s skills were declining the previous two seasons it appeared. Instead of continuing to decline, he turned around and won two MVP awards in a row. Just because Jordan love hasn’t started yet, doesn’t mean he was a bad draft pick. At the time, the pic looked very reasonable to me. They had a chance to draft a first round talent at the most important position in the game at a time when it looked like they might need that.

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Pantz_Burp's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:16 am

Good points mentioned WestCoast, thanks...

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greengold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:40 am

With the trade up being of insanely minimal cost.

Spot on, WestCoast. BRAVO.

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MilwPackFan's picture

March 27, 2022 at 12:29 pm

Excellent recap & summary of what actually happened.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:33 am

I guess they shouldve dumped Rodgers when he sucked after 2 seasons right? Same with Adams, Jordy, and Rashan Gary too right?

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:17 am

Yep. I recall the howls to trade Rodgers after his poor preseason performances and that his selection was a wasted pick because Favre was still playing.

Durning and after his first year, many here were calling Gary a bust. Adams was held in disdain because he was dropping passes like he was wearing mittens. Jordy had his critics during his first few years as well.

Any fan who says Love is a bust is simply basing it on a narrative and emotion.

Trading Love would be complete folly. I believe Rodgers, given his fickle and petulant personality, will again consider retirement after 2022 as he did the last two years. And if he does, Love is the the QB for 2023 and he will still be playing on his rookie deal with a 5th year option.

Mahomes, during his rookie year started and played in one game and was 22 for 35 and 284 years, 1 int and a rating of 76.4

Love last year totaled 36 for 62 and 411 yards, 2 TDs and 3 ints and a 68.7 rating in 6 quarters. 2020 was basically his redshirt year and did not play not having any pre-season game reps.

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Coldworld's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:12 am

At exactly the same point In their first contract:

Rodgers was 15/31 for 111 yards, a 48 percent completion rate and 7.4 YPC. He had 0 touchdowns, one interception and a quarterback rating of 43.9.

Love is 36 of 62 for 411 yards, a 58% completion rate and 11.4 YPC. He has two touchdowns, three interceptions, and a 68.7 quarterback rating.

Neither is stellar, but one is considerably better.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:30 am

I've made the point before, mostly greeted with laughing emojis by fans who dont know any better, that Love is likely further along than Rodgers was at the same point in his career and those numbers, while admittedly a tiny sample size, do lend credence to my point. Rodgers was so bad after 2 years, there were rumblings that Thompson was considering outright releasing him and drafting Brady Quinn to be the heir apparent. Rodgers played better in his 3rd preseason, but there wasnt much confidence in him until his breakout game against the Cowboys later that year. Its been said that the front office was as surprised by his performance as us fans were. Bottom line, you dont give up on elite talent. Development isnt always linear and sometimes it just takes a while for the game to slow down for these guys.

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HawkPacker's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:39 am

Strictly speaking of Rodgers only, I remember when he started out. He came in one game didn't do a thing, got injured and I said to myself 'this guy will never amount to a hill of beans'. Look how he turned out. Everyone needs to RELAX and be patient. It is not probable, but could be possible that we have another Rodgers/Favre in the waiting. Again, we need to be patient with the process and trust the FO. They are so much closer to the situation than we are.

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Minniman's picture

March 27, 2022 at 02:39 pm

Oren Burks was not the worst player on ST last year, but could only play specific packages on D for the Packers, which probably made the $5M that SF offered him early in FA a bit expensive for the role that the Packers would use him for…….. but that’s also not the ceiling that you expect from a third round pick.

SF don’t suck on D, so I’m actually curious to see why they jumped on him early in FA……. But I always like to see what other teams do with ex-Packers (it helps to gauge if the fit was ever right or the position coach able to get the best out of them).

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stockholder's picture

March 27, 2022 at 06:53 am

The only reason you keep Love; is to replace Rodgers. That just isn't going to Happen! Loves contract is up next year. ( Unless they pick up the option. ) He will make you pay, or move on. (And we just saw what happens when a player won't play under the franchise tag. ) It won't be cap friendly. Especially if Rodgers wants to stay. The ball is in Rodgers hands. And this franchise wanted that way. Love needs to be traded. Regardless if he shows improvement or not. He won't be happy. And the best thing the packers could do for HIM. Is Let him go now. YOU would never keep a wild animal. Love needs to be set free, to be happy again. And the only way for the packers to save face, is trade him. It's time to move on. It must happen.

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Coldworld's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:33 am

Unless Rodgers gets hurt, which is what any back up is for. It’s also possible Rodgers decides to call it quits at some point. Love is cheap and knows the system.

No need to move him unless we get a deal that makes it a no brainer. For that, teams probably need to see him show well in his second preseason. That could also apply to Benkert. Injuries happen and cause teams to pay.

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stockholder's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:45 am

There are other back-up options. Not just Love.

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Coldworld's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:41 am

In what way did I imply that there weren’t?

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PeteK's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:51 am

Yes, but they have all proved to be inadequate and do not have the possibility of development.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 27, 2022 at 11:27 am

They are not on the current roster. There were plenty of journeyman QBs in the free agent/trade market the past three years. Nobody drafts a guy with a one pick to ride the pines for 3-4 years.

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greengold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:10 pm

That’s what Favre said…

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NickPerry's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:41 am

" He won't be happy. And the best thing the packers could do for HIM. Is Let him go now. YOU would never keep a wild animal. Love needs to be set free, to be happy again."

Hey SH... How do we know Love isn't/won't be happy? I mean obviously he's a professional football player and wants to play. But he's only entering year 3 of his rookie contract playing behind one of if not the greatest regular season QB of all time.

He has this preseason to REALLY light it up. IF he has a great preseason, that will only help his value. The Packers aren't going to get squat, not really if they trade him, especially now. The GBP are a multi million dollar business, it would be bad business to just dump him for a low pick now, especially given their back-up QB depth.

NO, I would NEVER keep a wild animal, but that has to be one of the strangest analogy's I've ever heard. I keep Love because he's still cheap, there's still a good chance he can be really good, but mostly I DON'T TRUST AARON RODGERS ONE BIT!!

I work with a guy who's friend with one of the Packers coaches. Rodgers knew there was a chance Adam's wouldn't sign, but was PISSED it didn't get done. The dude is WEIRD, at least IMO and he's not been the most honest either. The whole immunized / vaccinated thing and then calling the report by Rappaport "categorically false" when he reported Rodgers was resigning turned out to be pretty damn accurate, at least the guaranteed money.

Rogers could go out and join a hippie cult for all I know next. He might get a hair up his ass if Gute doesn't do this or that, or Murphy opens his mouth again. I NEVER thought the Greatest Sports Franchise of all time, in the SMALLEST of markets, IN the Midwest could be the MOST DRAMA filled of all 32 teams. And the ONLY reason is AR12, and I'm fucking tired of him!

KEEP Love! You never know what 12 just might do tomorrow.

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Johnblood27's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:54 am

One million thumbs up for your honest, truthful post. (I believe that is the maximum allowed in print...)

and have a peanut butter cookie too! Sorry Dobber, it had to be done.

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NickPerry's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:54 am

Thanks JB...Maybe next time and IF I'm worthy, can I have a Chocolate Chip & Peanut Butter cookie instead??

Oh, sorry, I have a tendency to be a little long-winded.

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stockholder's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:02 am

Nick - Rodgers is No disgrace. Forget the drama. He didn't "black mail" the FO. He's here to stay. The term of the contract tells you that. Love isn't in Green Bay for his health. They're here to make money. Do the math. //// Love will not forget sitting on the bench. The peanut gallery won't support him now. (He's a controversy! ) /////Thats why we're discussing this. The next back-up/ starter will be more Team friendly. With the support of everyone again. Had Love lite up the fan base. Nobody would want him traded. A fresh approach must be used. A new beginning. Love splits this team. Now and in the future.

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:27 am

You simply have no knowledge about Love, his behavior and his attitude. Complete speculation and uninformed opinions.

I don't have knowledge about the young man either, except everyone on the team who mentions him comments on what a good teammate he is and how hard he works...just like he was at Utah State.

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Coldworld's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:54 am

“By reading the characteristic features of any man's castles in the air you can make a shrewd guess as to his underlying desires which are frustrated.”

John Dewey

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stockholder's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:19 am

LeFluer doesn't want Love to be a robot. How Damning. Favre - emotion, Rodger's chip. Rodger's won't let his Legacy go down the drain. And neither will this FO. Some people have Rodgers confused with Luck. Who just decided to GIVE IT UP. Rodger's will not let history show, he wasn't here for nothing. He is ready for more greatness. Just give him the weapons to prove it.

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Coldworld's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:58 am

Love staying or going will have no impact on the weapons available to Rodgers unless he’s a whole lot more highly thought of than you say and we’d still need a back up. Are you really just advocating for Benkert?

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PeteK's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:41 am

Some always put the blame on other factors. Unfortunately , it all comes down to the fact that Rodgers had the ball at the end of two championships games and failed. IMO in embarrassing fashion this past season. By the way, Luck did not GIVE IT UP, sadly injuries forced a great talent to retire.

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NickPerry's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:00 am

SH... There's a interesting piece on the Athletic and this was part of it...Take it for what's it worth but nobody REALLY knows what Rodgers might do NEXT year.

• A quick note on Aaron Rodgers: Don’t be so quick to assume he’s guaranteed to play beyond the 2022 season. That’s not only something I’ve been told by a source close to the situation surrounding the back-to-back MVP, but also something former Packers executive Andrew Brandt touched on in his recent Sports Illustrated column:

“I view this contract as a one-year deal for $42 million,” Brandt wrote. “Next year there are two guaranteed option bonuses, but these bonuses 1) have to be exercised by the Packers, and 2) would travel to a new team upon any trade. And with this option bonus structure, the dead money actually goes up the longer the contract goes on. Were Rodgers to retire or be traded before the option next year, there would be roughly $40 million of dead money (as with Matt Ryan and the Falcons) but also a credit of $59 million in nonexercised bonuses back to the Packers. And if he were to play again for the Packers next year, the dead money would rise to never-before-seen proportions. In my humble opinion, this contract suggests a one-and-done for Rodgers and Jordan Love will ascend to the Packers’ starting quarterback job after three years of apprenticeship, the same term that Aaron waited years ago.”

Right or wrong it IS possible...Then again it might just be "Click Bait" which once again GOT ME!...LOL

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:19 am

I sincerely hope this is true, but its also infuriating at the same time. Why would they pass on all that draft capital and 2 really good starting players just for one more year of Rodgers with a maxed out salary cap? Its like this front office has turned bipolar and cant make up their minds as to what the plan is for this team.

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Pantz_Burp's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:45 am

Fair question R_T_S. The only thing I can think of is the boat load they gave for Russ may not have been the same offered for Rodgers or maybe there wasn't a serious offer from the Broncos? Again, not sure but I was so hoping for a trade. Hopefully, the Pack would become stronger, collectively as a whole and Rodgers would get a chance at a new opportunity and challenge...

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BruceC1960's picture

March 27, 2022 at 12:18 pm

Maybe the Broncos wanted Wilson and not 12 all along?

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 12:47 pm

I guess its possible but very hard to believe considering the broncos and seahawks had weeks to make a deal but didnt pull the trigger until the hours after Rodgers announced his return to GB.

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Johnblood27's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:53 pm

BINGO!

Wilson was the participation trophy.

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PeteK's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:24 am

Interesting, either way, we take a large cap hit and be done with it. Personally, I think he retires after this season. I feel like he has had to talk himself into playing or he's just BSing. Sure does make the preseason very interesting.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:16 am

Rodgers is a disgrace and has been for a long time now going back to the end of the Mccarthy era. Somewhere along the line, 12's ego took over and convinced himself hes above everyone else in the organization. You would think the annual heartbreaking loss, in which he plays like an average player everytime, would be enough to humble him a little bit but no. Its only made him resent his teammates and coaches even more. Hes a finger pointer, not a thumb pointer. And thats why this team peaked with him under center all the way back in february of 2011. The only thing more sickening than Rodgers' ego trip is the fact that the front office broke their backs capitulating to him just to try to get Murphy another ring on his way out the door. As far as Love goes, its appauling how many fans hold a visceral hatred for him. He's not the one who has held out, publicly trashed the organization, strung everyone along for his own selfish publicity fix, lied repeatedly, and held the team hostage for a salary cap destroying monster contract. All Love has done is work his butt off and keep his mouth shut and yet fans seethe about him. Makes me want to puke. One day, those same fans will be wearing his jersey while pretending they loved him all along.

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PeteK's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:39 am

I would Love to see him excel. A few times last season Love would try to talk, but AR would just give him the bum's rush.That made me dislike ROD immensely, but felt sorry for Love. I give Favre credit because he never did that to Rodgers.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:52 am

Yeah Rodgers has become far worse than Favre ever was. Its sad too. For as much as I dislike Rodgers now, I was one of the first fans who believed in him, much like I do with Love now. For years and years, I made all the excused for Rodgers too. He could do no wrong in my mind. But it just got to the point where enough is enough. It would be one thing if he was bringing home the bacon but he is not. At this point, its like an abusive relationship and the front office keeps convincing themselves that despite all the abuse he really loves them deep down.

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Swisch's picture

March 27, 2022 at 12:14 pm

I've also been a huge fan of Rodgers over the years until recently.
I used to think he was getting all he could out of our teams, leading the Packers as far as they could go; but now I'm wondering if he's been doing things to hold the team back, and for how long.
It seems that along the way Rodgers has become arrogant and domineering to the sad detriment of the Packers, culminating in an ugly coup of the franchise with his new contract.
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I'm surprised more fans aren't like Return_To_Sanity in wanting a return to sanity by ridding of ourselves of Rodgers.
He is ruining the team I've been devoted to for more than half a century.
I stuck with the Packers in the lean years of the '70s and '80s while growing up in foreign territory near Philadelphia and then Chicago.
In my twenties, I endured a lot of teasing during the decade of the Super Bowl Shuffle of the Bears, with William "The Refrigerator" Perry not only running over the Packers for a touchdown, but also catching a pass for one.
I sustained myself by living on the legend of the Packers from the Lombardi Era, although I was too young to remember it firsthand, having been born in 1962.
Through all the difficulties and disappointments over more than 50 years as a fan, I've never been nearly so sad about the Packers as I am with this recent re-signing of Rodgers -- which has ceded control of the team to an egomaniac who is poisoning the franchise.
Don't the people who care about the Packers the most understand that groveling before such a jerk is an affront to our collective dignity?
I'm embarrassed and sickened by this degradation of the Packers due to the selfishness of our quarterback and the insanity of his enablers in the front office.
It seems hard to overstate the case, because ultimately it's a matter of integrity.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 12:56 pm

Swisch, I was born and raised in the Chicago area amd have been a Packer fan since about 5 years old when I was just starting to learn what football is. I only recently moved to Indiana about 5 years ago. Even tho were both diehard cheesebeads, maybe being geographical outsiders is contributing to our similar views? Just a thought.

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Johnblood27's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:09 pm

welcome to the new NFL.

Fantasy teams, not NFL franchises are most important.

Gambling is more important than game integrity.

TV viewership numbers mean much more than the integrity of the game.

Officials literally keeping games close and determining which franchises advance is the norm today.

I see through it all. It all makes me sick.

I have been such a hard core GB Packer fan for so long that I still root for the Packers and watch their games, however I used to be a massive football fan and watched all I could, not any more. I despise what I see across the league. It is bad enough when i see it in Packer games, it just drives home the point that my interpretation is 100% correct when I see it in other games which I have no rooting interest in.

Die Goodell, Die!!!

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greengold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:19 pm

Tend to agree. I never bet on football save for a pool if asked to join. Never played FF, nor want to because I never wanted how I watch a game adulterated.

Goodell has been a horrible steward of the NFL for fans, and a gigantic money maker for the owners, with integrity of the game suffering right along with the fans.

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Swisch's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:30 pm

I do hate the fantasy-football mentality that seems to exalt individual stats over team achievement.
However, I'd be glad for Roger Goodell to simply retire -- although I sympathize with your anger, johnblood27.
It's a sad world that is corrupting so much of what is good about America; yet I see enough goodness remaining in our country to hope that we can turn it around with peaceful and prayerful perseverance.
If we play it through in this life to the last snap -- with perhaps a real Hail Mary -- who knows what victories we can pull out in the end?

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Swisch's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:09 pm

My loyalty and devotion to the Packers are a mystery even to me, as I moved out of Wisconsin before age 4 (although visiting for vacations).
In fifth grade, my family moved to suburban Chicago in Wheaton, where I graduated in 1980 from the same high school attended by Red Grange (who made a celebrated visit while I was a student, to my enjoyment).
From then until 1998, I lived in Evanston, Oak Park, Lisle, Woodridge and Naperville, plus a couple of neighborhoods in Chicago, including Rodgers Park.
After that, I've been mostly in New Mexico and Idaho, though my wife and I now unexpectedly find ourselves as residents of Georgia.
It's good to meet you, Return_To_Sanity, and I'm glad to have you around at CHTV. All the best to you in Indiana. (Two of my favorite movies are "Hoosiers" and "Breaking Away.")

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HawkPacker's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:43 am

Well said NP.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:33 am

I do have a few Bears come in the yard on a weekly basis.

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Rarescope's picture

March 27, 2022 at 07:26 am

I get it that it’s the off-season but the only rumors there are of trading love are those generated by our favorite click bait articles. The real Packers writers have repeatedly said it makes zero sense to get rid of him.

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sjc28's picture

March 27, 2022 at 07:57 am

You can't trade love because you won't get anything for him. It was a bad pick then and it's still a bad pick. Keep him as a back up and if Roger's retires next year they can see what they have in love. If he's good, great if not then they lose a bunch of games
get a high draft position and draft another QB.

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greengold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 07:46 am

Bruce Freaking Irons, Ladies & Gentlemen…

APPLAUSE.

This may be one of the best articles from a prescient standpoint that I’ve ever read here at CHTV. Well done, Bruce. Aaron Rodgers himself didn’t start until year 4. He also didn’t have one of those years rendered essentially meaningless by a pandemic. Just a great, timely offering, Bruce. Thank you for this concise and to the point perspective shared - with a wonderfully glaring simplicity. Really cuts to the point so perfectly. PROPS.

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Coldworld's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:40 am

At the same point in their careers (Rodgers having one extra preseason and year running the scout team), Love has a far higher passer rating than Rodgers did and as many if not more thought him a bust.

I don’t know if Love is good or not, but this Theme brings out some of the least informed arguments from those who do “know” every time.

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egbertsouse's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:44 am

No, this is a foolish article written to pander to the wishful thinking of the fanboys by pretending that the Love pick wasn’t a total disaster. Apparently, it’s working.
It’s nice that 100 years ago they could let first rounders sit on the bench for half their careers but today the mantra is, “Get ‘em good or get ‘em gone,”

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Johnblood27's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:57 am

Uninformed people with absolutely no grasp of the situation a player was drafted into and absolutely less of an idea of the exact situation in Green Bay would make a statement exactly like yours.

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NickPerry's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:03 am

JB... Now YOU get the cookie!

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Johnblood27's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:48 pm

Yum Yum, I love cookies, especially fortune cookies!

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greengold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:04 am

One of the most ignorant comments ever.

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Lphill's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:29 am

Maybe Love wants to be traded so he can play somewhere .

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 27, 2022 at 12:32 pm

More likely he wants to be in Green Bay and enjoys learning from MLF and Rodgers. And more likely he will enjoy his time with the Packers even more this year, being coached by QB whisperer Tom Clements...who I think is going to love coaching Love.

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PeteK's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:46 am

Never looked at it that way, but it makes some sense especially with all the unnecessary extra pressure he has received.

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Guam's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:40 am

I would add one more reason to keep Love - injury to Rodgers. Rodgers will be 38/39 next season and has lost games to injury before. Love gives them a cheap and decent insurance policy against Rodgers going down for part of the season with an injury. For a team with Super Bowl aspirations and an older QB1, a decent QB2 is a requisite item and for a team with salary cap problems too, decent AND cheap become requisite.

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:35 am

Spot on, Guam. Rodgers has been injured before. Love will only get better with another camp, Clements, MLF, and pre-season games.

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Guam's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:58 am

Thanks LP. I have no idea what the Packers have in Love (I am a lousy talent evaluator), but I'm sure the front office and coaching staff have a pretty good idea at this point and it doesn't appear they want to trade him. Rodgers will miss some games during his new contract and Love seems to be a good and cheap option for at least the next couple of years. The question is what happens when Love gets to his fifth year option and Rodgers still wants to play?

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Coldworld's picture

March 27, 2022 at 11:12 am

There is a lot of water that will flow under this bridge between them and now. At this point we have to focus on this year. Everything else is uncertain and, depending how things go, the landscape may be unrecognizable.

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PatrickGB's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:43 am

I agree he is a young and cheap backup with some potential. He also has some ability to run the ball. I imagine that works well when he is running the scout teams. I disliked the pick at the time but he just might have potential under the right coaching. Under Campen he might improve on any of his perceived flaws. Every team needs a backup QB and Jordan knows the offense better than any vet they might bring in. I admit that there were other QB’s that I thought would make a good backup in GB but they went to other teams at a high price. And as long as he continues to fly under the radar then an extension to his contract (if they decide to keep him) might be affordable.

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Johnblood27's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:59 am

I am certain that you mean Tom Clements, not James Campen.

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 27, 2022 at 12:47 pm

Tom Clements was credited by Rodgers for coaching him up and correcting the Teford style of passing with that quirky side arm delivery, I guess the Teford style was to improve targeting of the receiver?

Clements got him throwing over the top and a higher release point to utilize Rodgers arm strength, believing his accuracy did not need the Teford style. It worked.

What Tom did to mold Kyler Murray from prospect with special skills into an elite QB talent reason enough to keep Love under Clements' tutelage for his entire contract, maybe even the 5th year option.

Getsey is a good, talented coach given his upward trajectory during his brief career...but he is no Tom Clements. I always like Tom and am still not entirely clear why he left the team.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:45 am

Love is still the future of this team. Trading him would be stupid. Forget all the noise from the receiver fever people. Love has superstar talent and you dont give up on that until you've exhausted every opportunity for him to succeed.

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Lphill's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:02 am

Superstar talent?

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:29 am

Without question.

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greengold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:18 am

Watch his 2018 tape, and look at his stats. Without question.

2019 he had a new HC, new scheme, lost all of his starting OL, and 3 starting WRs.

SUPERSTAR TALENT.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:41 am

Thank you. Also, check out his deep pass to Cobb while rolling out to his right against the Chiefs. Theres only a handful of qb's (Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, Herbert) who even attempt that pass in the NFL and he made it look easy. The talent is obviously there. Not to mention, he makes the right reads and decisions. you dont see him getting fooled and throwing into double coverage. Thats proof of his development right there. His main issues are timing and protection calls, neither of which are surprising for a player with such little playing time and 1st team reps.

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greengold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:59 pm

I’ll add, the KC game was without a doubt Matt LaFleur’s worst coaching/leadership moment in Green Bay. He left Jordan Love hanging out to dry, with no chance at success.

The game plan was complete garbage, mailed in with what he normally calls with Rodgers starting, in Love’s very first NFL start.

KC had a very suspect run D going into the game on their home turf, and a white hot pass rush. Did LaFleur dial in a smart, run heavy attack with Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon behind what was a proven run blocking OL to take some of the heat off Love? HELL NO. Did LaFleur add an extra OL to give Love just a bit more time on pass plays as an in game adjustment? HELL NO.

It was a lazy offering by LaFleur, with ZERO forethought on how best to attack KC’s weaknesses, chew clock and keep Mahommes on on his own sideline.

It was a huge disservice to Jordan Love and the rest of the team as a HC, and LaFleur admitted as much afterwards.

Anyone pointing a finger at Love for any misgivings that day is assigning blame to the wrong guy.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 28, 2022 at 01:49 pm

My thoughts on that game are Lafleur called it the way he did to throw Love into the fire. Think of it this way. Hes not going to get better if they call a bunch of plays to protect him. Throw him in the deep end and see if he can swim. It was a measuring stick game. Or at least I hope it was. Trying to give MLF the benefit of the doubt cuz i really dont believe that game reflects his true offensive philosophy.

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Johnblood27's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:03 am

Please, everyone who reads or posts here, take a look at this web site with all of Jordan Love's college career details.

As a reminder, he came out after his JUNIOR season, and his huge year statistically was his SOPHOMORE season, he is still very young and was raw coming out although with huge promise.

https://utahstateaggies.com/sports/football/roster/jordan-love/3437

The truth will set you free, in this case free means stop the negativity towards Jordan Love.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:41 am

The negativity will never end unless Love wins a super bowl. Until then, all were gonna hear about is how Tee Higgins is the best receiver of all time and Gutekunst is literally Hitler for passing on him.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:45 am

Running Yost's offense. The junior year was under the fraud Gary Andersen. I watched 3-4 of Love's games that season and the O-line was as pathetic as the coaches schemes. Love has to pick up his feet and get his timing down on his release point as per the WCO. He will have to show more intensity delivering the rock. Pick up the pace or he will be replaced. LaFleur did him no favors versus Spags in-your-face blitzing. Does the guy know how to design a draw play or counters ??

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Coldworld's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:19 am

You touch on a much more significant concern than keeping Love or not. LaFleur seems to have no understanding of how to handle a young QB.

I also agree with your take on the technical issues love needs to improve upon.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 01:02 pm

I think Lafleur's hands are tied. Remember, he answers directly to Murphy just like Gutekunst does. From an outsider view, it seems the team has been turned over to 12 in every way. That kind of decision can only be made by Murphy.

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greengold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:29 am

Gary Andersen took over as HC in 2019, and he’s a walking dumpster fire.

Anyone questioning Love needs to look at his 2018 tape with his full complement of players, not 2019. Lost his OL and WRs, saddled with a new “system” if you can call it that, under that flaming POS.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:42 am

He tried making Love run the Rodgers' offense and it backfired. Love needs to be running the Lafleur offense and he'll be just fine.

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Coldworld's picture

March 27, 2022 at 11:13 am

LaFleur should try that too.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 01:05 pm

Lol agreed CW. Thats the main reason I wanted 12 gone before last season. This team is built for the shanahan style offense that Lafleur is supposed to employ. But the offense being run on the field is closer to the Mccarthy era Packers. If Rodgers loves that offense so much, why did he run Mccarthy out of town? Ugh.

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croatpackfan's picture

March 27, 2022 at 11:34 am

Jordan Love have to run Jordan Love's offense and HC and OC has to prepare plan and plays that will allow him to run his own offense. Until than, he will be bust. Because nobody can be somebody else...

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 27, 2022 at 01:00 pm

Thanks for that link, Blood.

I compared Rodgers two year at CA as a starter with Love's two years as starter at Utah State.

Amazingly similar production. Rodgers had a slightly higher rating, Love threw for more yards and TDs. What Rodgers had that Love did not was very little change his junior year whereas Love had to adjust to new coaches, new OL, and 3 new starting receivers.

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Johnblood27's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:45 pm

I am at your service.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 28, 2022 at 09:35 am

Thanks RTS!

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HarryHodag's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:11 am

The merry-go-round of NFL qb's this off season should give you a real clear picture of Love's value to other teams. Have there been any offers for him? You would think some team would like a #1 pick with some NFL experience. So far, crickets. I agree the best bet is to try to get Love enough reps in Green Bay to get him experienced enough to run the offense when Rodgers departs.

I think Matt LF's offense is good for Love as it's 50-50 run/pass. It takes some of the pressure off to be throwing it more like now.

I don't think the fan base has given Love enough time to develop but he must show better accuracy when he does get in there. Maybe not this year but next year they should look at drafting a QB.

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croatpackfan's picture

March 27, 2022 at 11:35 am

What NFL experience? Practice walk offs?

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Jeff Hayes's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:21 am

#1 is the reason

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Harold Drake's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:36 am

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Here are three reasons to get rid of Jordan Love immediately:

1 - He's a terrible QB with a release that resembles an iron ore freighter in motion;

2 - He lacks accuracy;

3 - His trade value will never be higher than now in a poor QB draft year. But trading him will mean that Gutekunst will have to admit that Love is a bust of Ryan Leaf proportions. But I understand that CHTV needs to hold the party line that Love is the Packers' savior despite all evidence to the contrary because that would also mean that everyone at CHTV has been dead wrong on Love since the insane decision to draft him in the first round (and trade up to accomplish that suicide pick).

What sense does it make to keep Love on the bench for at least two more years (the Packers are paying Rodgers $150 million to lead the team for at least another two seasons)? Let's get a third round pick for him (if possible) and use that and other picks to move up in round one of next month's draft and get Olave or someone of his calibre. Or package Love in a deal to acquire DK Metcalf. Can you imagine Rodgers having Metcalf as a target? Heaven awaits.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:42 am

Yawn.

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greengold's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:34 am

This is your brain on drugs. Just say “NO.”

Sizzle. Sizzle. Sizzle.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 28, 2022 at 09:38 am

GG,
Almost spit my coffee across the room. Thanks for a good laugh!

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Pantz_Burp's picture

March 27, 2022 at 09:39 am

Holy schnikes! (my best Tommy Boy impression)

Could you imagine Captain Chaos with Love gone? I say keep Love mainly because he knows the system and it makes financial sense currently (financial sense, how refreshing!).

And, what if he blossoms into an above adequate QB to one that is built for LeF's offense...meaning, really good for this system? Keep him, at 23...he seems more emotionally mature than Captain Chaos...

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PeteK's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:53 am

Hahahahaha I just pictured Rod with a goofy pirate cap on.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 01:07 pm

He likely is more mature. He lost his father at a young age and had to become a man before he reached puberty. Another reason why i like him so much.

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Qoojo's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:27 am

I guess this article exists because of fantasy football. Love isn't going anywhere. It doesn't matter if you like Love or not, packers still need a backup qb, and there isn't a better backup option that the packers can afford.

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13TimeChamps's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:41 am

Hindsight has a tendency to warp reality. Like calling the Love pick stupid because of Rodger's subsequent back to back MVP years, conveniently forgetting his seemingly declining play at the time of the pick. AT THE TIME, the pick made perfect sense. If Rodgers had continued to decline and the FO didn't have his replacement drafted, they would have been skewered for that as well.

As to whether Love pans out, the draft is a total crap shoot, including the 1st round. Think of all the 1st rounders who flamed out. Just for GB alone...Justin Harrell, Derrick Sherrod, Demarious Randall, Datone Jones. Time will tell if Love is added to that list. If he is, it will be no bigger of a bust than any of the others, but people will place more importance on it because he's a QB.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 27, 2022 at 05:33 pm

They didn't flame out. They were terrible choices to begin with. They had no flame.

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jhtobias's picture

March 27, 2022 at 11:02 am

I really don't care whether they keep Jordan Love or not I don't whether Aaron Rodgers cries walks away demands a trade or not. I'm a fan of the team not a player and in all honesty I'm happy about how they have put together this whole team especially on defense, upgrading the special teams , and the running back and offensive line . Sure Wide Receiver has been neglected but really excited to see what direction they go with wr.

Also I think it is complete crap whenever anyone tries to judge Jordan Love. All we know is he can't be Aaron Rodgers out for the starting job . You want to judge Jordan on one start go ahead, but then you might as well right off all nfl players after one start .

Also for those of you that remember when Sterling Sharpe had to retire who by the way was twice the receiver Davante was not trying to take a shot at Davante he is awesome but truth is truth Favre has to use all his weapons after this and won back to back to mvp and a superbowl. Also a dominant defense .

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13TimeChamps's picture

March 27, 2022 at 11:22 am

While thinking about the Love pick, an interesting thought popped into my head. Has Green Bay EVER drafted a QB in the 1st round that panned out? The only ones drafted in my lifetime that I can think of are Don Horn, Jerry Tagge, and Rich Campbell...all busts. Unless Paul Hornung counts. He was a QB in college but switched to RB in Green Bay.

This is not a knock on the Love pick, by the way. Just got me thinking about Green Bay's history with drafting QBs in the first round.

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stockholder's picture

March 27, 2022 at 11:24 am

Rodgers was. My thinking is they trade 1st rounders with New Orleans. And throw in Love to move up.

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13TimeChamps's picture

March 27, 2022 at 11:37 am

Of course Rodgers was...my bad. Coffee hasn't kicked in yet.

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LambeauPlain's picture

March 27, 2022 at 01:20 pm

You are funny. Trade Love to move up 4 spots...essentially a late 3rd rounder...to draft a player that they likely could have at 22. I am entirely confident Gutey does not "think" like you.

NO draft war room would erupt in laughter and cheers if the Packers made the boneheaded move. It would be akin to when Vyqueens lost their pick due to indecision and confusion.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 27, 2022 at 05:40 pm

You would need a two to move there, three pick will not do it.

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salsilv209's picture

March 27, 2022 at 11:52 am

The talk of Jaire's contract has been on going. That is good reason enough to trade Jordan Love. This team cannot wait because it has had bad luck when they let a contract expire. That cost the packers many players and those players became great for other teams. In the mean time packers suffered because they got nothing in return. Adams is the only player that had a contract expire and thats because of the franchise tag. The packers should know that players hate playing under the tag and the packers dont like using that tag, so why dont they keep these guys by giving little extentions like it did with Lucas patrick during his final year. he was extended for 2 years and he did really well for the packers.
Back to Love. this team has a bad cap situation and it cant afford to pay a player like Love so much and he not be on the field. all the money needs to be on the field. He isnt going to be the guy we all thought. As a first round pick he wasnt able to beat boyle for the back up job. Than they gave him the job when they released Boyle which i feel the packers lost out on just so jordan to dress.... that is now a qb, a fourth rounder and how much money are they paying him? Now that the team is in cap trouble and has probably the best corner in the league wanting to be paid like it. Jordan Love is the only first round pick i know of that couldnt beat a back up qb. than his pre seasons havent been very good and his first start against the browns was terrible. The third option Qb Benkert has put in a better performance and has showed to me that he is worthy of holding that job.
What they get for jordan love? crap just get back a 3rd or 4th round for him. They get something back and his contract is gone. i heard he was getting 15 million to sit.... thats money they should be giving Alexander. Jaire is way more important that Love. I say let him go....

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canadapacker's picture

March 27, 2022 at 01:08 pm

I would like somebody to answer this question. If the Packers pick up Love's 5th year option - and that decision will be coming up soon - what is that going to cost the team? I mean that is why the Bears cut Trubisky. "If the Bears picked up his option, they would have paid Trubisky $24.8 million."" Now Trubisky played a lot and if a player does not play a lot - what is the cost of the team to do that? Supposedly ". With players selected outside of the top 10 (picks 11-32), the fifth-year salary was the average of the third through 25th highest salaries at a player's position.""" Now since that is a QB - that seems kind of high for a player holding a clipboard. Also should the Pack get him under a contract - and when is that decision need to be made - after the draft?

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 01:12 pm

How much he will make on that 5th year option is a complicated but fluid formula that I'm not 100% certain about the details of. IIRC, it starts somewhere around $18 mil and keeps going up depending on performance, pro bowls, games started, etc. Assuming Rodgers stays healthy and Love doesnt start any games this year, at least they would get him on the low range of the spectrum but would still owe him roughly $18-20 million.

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croatpackfan's picture

March 27, 2022 at 12:54 pm

Bruce, thank you for the article. As for any player, I'm sure you can find at least 3 reasons for trade, cut or keep that player. Anyway...

Some here called me Aaron Rodgers hater. I do not hate Aaron Rodgers. First you have to love someone, to be able to hate that person. What I feel towards Aaron Charles Rodgers is despise. I despise him for several reasons.

First I will give you my thoughts about AR capabilities. He is highly intelligent person. Also, he posses knowledge in many fields, especially in football. He knows how to express himself, he is very good talker. After I said that you would expect that I talk about very positive person. All those characteristics can be possessed by very positive and very negative persons. Unfortunately, by my opinion, Aaron Rodgers is negative one. Or, he became through his life one of that kind.

It happens often with highly intelligent persons. Especially if they are well educated and knows a lot about many things. It looks to them that they are more valuable than others and, subconsciously, they are starting to act like ones (more valuable). When you connect that with egotism and selfishness you got the product exactly like Aaron Rodgers.

The worst result of that is that he started to manipulate with people, using his popularity, importance and his intelligence. At first, people become thrilled how clever and nice he is. He is saying all the right things and it looks like nice guy. But, at the moment when you put anything he wants to jeopardy, you'll find how looks like his wrath/rage.

There is few people AR really respect or respected. One of those man was Ted Thompson. He gave him a chance and he made him what he is today. And, while Ted Thompson was in power, he was pretty silent and keeping his head down. Once he find out that TT become, because of his illness, almost shell of himself, Aaron Rodgers started to force his will. On the manner he knew that will cover his actions from public. First, small victims were Slocum and Bostick. Those changes are reasonable and was seen as MM and TT moves. Second victim was Dom Capers (also was seen as MM move). Mike McCarthy was not aware that he is the next in the row, beleiving that his protege will never do him any harm. But he made MM expendable and got from Brian Gutekunst and Mike Murphy what he planned. It was seen as move that was necessity, because Packers were going down and it was looks like game plans are based only on AR improvization. While I agree that change was reasonable, the way how Packers banish Mike McCarthy was everything but nice, I'll say very ugly. Aaron Rodgers get interesting contract after 2 down years, when many thoughts he is in decline. And got new, young, unexperienced coach to train him. "I want to be coached!", said Aaron Rodgers. We have 3 years now that was another lie from his mouth. His disrespect of Matt LaFleur was shown on the field by very frequent change of plays they were called.

I can continue to write more and more details, but it is to long for this post, but you might find hard line that will gives you idea what were going on. I will say only that the last moment when MLF showed he has b*lls was calling FG at the end of the last NFCCG. That call was criticized by many, but it was logical. Packers D keep Bucs in its pockett and with FG if Packers get another possession, what was expected by the flow of the game, and with the TD Packers win. That was change in MLF attitude towards AR. He bows in front of AR after that in every opportunity and takes AR mistakes on his back (like statement "I planned the game with idea to rally on Davante Adams").

After that game all the hell open. And his public conference before the TC last season was cherry on the top. He proclaimed himself owner of the Packers.

That is why I can not wish him anything good while he is ruining franchize I'm fan of it. He start to lose his abilities as player (like side vision, accuracy, timing etc) and it will be worser by every season.

I know this article was mention to be about Jordan Love. And my post is. Put behavior of AR and JL in comparison and you'll understand why I'm on Jordan Love side. Bust or HOFer, will he play for Packers or not in the future I will always be fan of his calm and noble behavior through all s*itts we experienced from overvaluated Diva.

Sorry for the long post, for mistakes I made because of my lack of English and for bothering you...

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Pantz_Burp's picture

March 27, 2022 at 06:08 pm

Thanks Croat for sharing your opinion. I was in the Rodgers camp for a long time and truly respected him how he handled the annual Favre saga towards the end of 4's career in GB. I have been waiting to praise Rodgers for his TEAM outlook but haven't seen it, so I wait and voice my displeasure when it seems appropriate. Ironically, now I'm looking back at Favre's time in GB in a new light thinking it wasn't so bad... compared to Rodgers. Rodgers is able to use this strategy since he is still ultra-talented. We aren't spoiled as fans, he is acting spoiled. If his words and actions alligned, I would tip my hat to him ..but they don't. When/if he loses his skills when still playing....watch out, I won't nearly feel as bad for him as someone who did it the way I appreciate (Alex Smith comes to mind with his injury). Not sure how Rodgers will play his last card...I just want him to play it. Give me a chip and a chair and hell, Love for a few rounds. I just rewatched James Buster Douglas vs Mike Tyson where Buster shocks the world in Tokyo. Buster's reign didn't last long, but boy was it sweet. I want Love to get an opportunity to write his own narrative...

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 28, 2022 at 09:47 am

Hoof, I enjoyed that read!

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Chinnman's picture

March 27, 2022 at 03:19 pm

Why all the talk about Love, why not insert Benkert in there? He's impressed me more
than Love ever has. He has more experience why not give him a try?

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 27, 2022 at 10:04 pm

There's a reason Love was a 1st round pick and Benkert was undrafted. The difference in talent and potential is immense.

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HarryHodag's picture

March 27, 2022 at 03:25 pm

Oh, I don't know, like starting and playing the entire Kansas City game, playing a half at Detroit. He needs more than that.

Plus, all the Rodgers fans think he's immortal. Like all NFL players he's one play away from the sidelines or retirement.

Best to keep Love this year but keep the eyes open for new talent.

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BAMABADGER's picture

March 27, 2022 at 06:48 pm

Love has yet to play a game with 100% of the first team offense. The offense was depleted the week of the Chiefs game. He ran for his life due to poor blitz pick ups and MLF's terrible play calling. Fans have no way to evaluate him.

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Mrbill63's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:36 pm

Face it. There is NO valid reason to keep Love on this team. He is virtually worthless as an NFL quarterback and displays no talent.
He needs to be gone. Get what we can for him, which isn't much. Cut our losses and draft a decent backup this year.

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Mrbill63's picture

March 27, 2022 at 08:36 pm

Face it. There is NO valid reason to keep Love on this team. He is virtually worthless as an NFL quarterback and displays no talent.
He needs to be gone. Get what we can for him, which isn't much. Cut our losses and draft a decent backup this year.

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Cheezedik's picture

March 27, 2022 at 11:23 pm

Love hasn’t looked real good. Had a chance or two but choked. Better off with Case Keenan but he is locked up now. Keenum is an above average back-up QB.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

March 28, 2022 at 12:25 am

Choked? He outplayed Mahomes in KC and he brought the team back from the double digit deficit he inherited from the starters to take the lead with less than 5 minutes left in the game against the lions and he did that with backups. Not sure what games you watched. Choking is only managing 53 yards in the 2nd half of a home playoff game. Choking is getting shutout in the first half of the NFC Championship game.....twice (2016 and 2019). Choking is throwing 34 times for only 178 yards and 2 ints in another NFC Championship game. Thats what choking looks like.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 28, 2022 at 10:00 am

Remember the Pack is tight against the cap. Did you even consider there likely is a significant salary difference to the Packers advantage by keeping Love? Did you ever consider that Love has much more promise and upside being only 23 years old? Did you ever consider...you have zero idea of how high the Packers are about Love having watched him every day? Did you ever consider the most likely reason Clements was brought back? Did you ever consider you have zero idea the Packers plan on how long Rodgers remains a Packer?

Respectfully, you and the other Love haters have zero idea! I believe he is going to have a successful QB career in the NFL and will be in the league 10+ years. That doesn't mean he will be a great QB....because like you none of us know at this point. I want to see him play most of the preseason games and I hope he starts, or plays in multiple games this season. He needs experience and fans like you and I need to observe and get a real feel for his capabilities.

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