The Roller Coaster Ride That is Jordan Love

Lots of highs and lows as the young QB learns his craft.

Trains of thought after preseason game #1: 

It’s his third year on the team and I still don’t know what to make of Jordan Love.  About the time you're ready to dismiss him as not being good enough, he flashes the kind of talent and ability that makes you realize why the Packers moved up to draft him in the first round.  The same QB who loops a perfect TD bomb to Romeo Doubs one moment, will then throw the ball to the wrong side of a running back leaking out to the flat.   

On fourth and one he calmly flips the ball to Josiah Deguara for a clutch conversion.  Then on third and long he throws the ball behind his receiver to be picked off.  If we ever get to the point where Aaron Rodgers bids farewell to Green Bay, and Love becomes the man, it’s going to be a real roller coaster ride.  We’re just going to have to live with the ups and downs.  We’ve been spoiled for too long by the consistency and quality of QB 12.    

I feel a little better about the offensive line.  They allowed no sacks during the first half when Love was the quarterback.   For the most part Love had time to find his receiver and throw.  The O-line opened up a few nice holes for the running game.  Overall, they held up reasonably well.  I’m not real confident on third and one, when it’s mano a mano in the trenches, but that should get better as this unit gains confidence.  I now actually believe Green Bay could go into a real game with a front line of Yosh Nijman, Jon Runyan, Josh Myers, Jake Hanson and Royce Newman and win.  Although, by the end of camp, I won’t be surprised if rookie Zach Tom moves into right tackle and Newman slides to guard.    

Who was the most impressive newcomer?  Many of you might say Romeo Doubs, but I really liked what I saw of running back Tyler Goodson.  The former Iowa Hawkeye showed some real explosion and speed to the hole.  I know I’m way ahead of myself here, but I found myself thinking that if the Packers are forced to part ways with Aaron Jones after this season because of the $20 million cap hit on the books for next year, Goodson was showing the same kind of attributes.  I want to see more of this kid.  The Packers have a tough decision to make between Kylin Hill, Patrick Taylor and Goodson for the third running back spot.   Nice problem to have though. 

Another player who caught my eye was Keisean Nixon.  He was brought here chiefly to play special teams, but he made at least two very sure tackles in the open field to stop short pass plays from rupturing.  Anything he can provide in the way of defensive back depth would be sheer gravy. 

Speaking of special teams, it’s pointless to draw any conclusions about them based on this game.  With 21 of the Packers’ best players not suiting up, I suspect the personnel being used on “wefense” last Friday night will be vastly different from what we see on opening day.  That said, I sure enjoyed watching the 51 yard kickoff return by Amari Rodgers in the first quarter.  When the play was over, I was just waiting for the announcers to say “there’s a penalty flag on the field”.  But the play actually held up.  What a welcome added weapon a good return team would be this season. 

How about that burst from Amari Rodgers?  Not just on the kickoff return, but the short pass to the boundary where the second year veteran turned and exploded 22 yards, finishing with a dive into the end zone.  This is the first indication that the former Clemson standout can be the playmaker the Packers envisioned when they took him in the third round last year. 

If anything, this game served to make Green Bay’s wide receiver situation muddier instead of clearer.  Rodgers, Doubs, Juwann Winfree and Samori Toure all looked like roster candidates.  Throw them in the mix with the guys who sat out, Lazard, Cobb, Watkins, Watson and Malik Taylor, and you’ve got another one of those good problems.  Oh, and then there’s Danny Davis.  This former Wisconsin Badger is going to play for somebody.  The numbers are against him in Green Bay, but I liked him when he played in Madison, and I like him now. 

Doubs reminds me so much of MVS. Ability to get open deep, but subject to drops. 

Mason Crosby’s hold on the kicker job improved, even though he didn’t even suit up.  Gabe Brkic’s terrible field goal shank, and his shallow kickoffs, pretty much saw to that. 

I can see why the Packers chose to hang on to Danny Etling instead of Kurt Benkert.  Though Benkert had risen to the level of folk hero in cheese country, Etling is more mobile and makes decisions faster.  He looks like the better prospect.  I don’t want him to look too good however.  He is destined for the practice squad and some other team will pluck him away if he continues to impress.  Remember Taysom Hill? 

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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.

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Bure9620's picture

August 15, 2022 at 06:36 am

This article sort of makes the assumption Love is this inconsistent player and that just is what he is. He is still a young QB. He is only 23 and has barely played. ALL young QBs struggle with consistency. Aaron Rodgers as a young QB was very inconsistent and down terrible in his early preseason. Burrow has played well but name a young QB showing consistency right now in the league....

Jordan Love is a polarzing player. I get it. Those whom did not like the pick will dig into their corners harder every bad throw he makes and claim "See, we should gotten Rodgers a WR!" To just say he is a rollercoaster after watching one half of one preseason game in which he had little help is a bit much.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

August 15, 2022 at 06:38 am

Well said, Bure. Guys like Mahomes, Josh Allen, etc. were/are inconsistent as well. We forget that, because most of us don't watch them every week.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 15, 2022 at 07:25 am

Mahomes won the MVP as a 2nd year player. Hardly what I call inconsistent.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 15, 2022 at 07:43 am

Yeah, after one year of inconsistency...

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Bure9620's picture

August 15, 2022 at 07:58 am

Even Josh Allen and Burrow are still quite inconsistent, Josh Allen has several picks that could have been avoided last year. Justin Fields was not good. Zach Wilson had lots of inconsistency. Trevor Lawrence was awful. Young QBs are consistently inconsistent.

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Bure9620's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:07 am

Double

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PatB's picture

August 15, 2022 at 05:12 pm

moved

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PatB's picture

August 15, 2022 at 05:12 pm

"Has several picks that could have been avoided" could be said about almost any NFL QB, young or old.

History is littered with QBs that looked bad as rookies. Some of them became good or great. Most did not. Rodgers is an extreme anomaly. It's entirely possible that Fields, Wilson, and Lawrence will end up somewhere between adequate and bust, so comparisons to them are not reassuring.

FTR I'm keeping an open mind about Love. I thought he looked better Friday than last year. Hopefully he continues to improve. His draft situation set the bar high.
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SensualInfluence's picture

August 15, 2022 at 07:40 am

Two years and change and Love has yet to do one thing impressive. The guy hasn’t played a single game well. The only thing he’s consistent with is his inconsistency. He’s JAG

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Bure9620's picture

August 15, 2022 at 07:59 am

Yeah, this what I am talking about.

"The guy hasn't played a single game well" he has started one game......

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Bure9620's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:00 am

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:07 am

Brett Favre threw 37 combined interceptions his first 2 seasons starting. But lets give up on Love after 3 preseason games and 6 quarters of reg season play. Makes total sense.

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dobber's picture

August 15, 2022 at 10:50 am

No offense, but if we limit parameters enough, we can make just about any comparison we want and make it support a point or perspective. I get tired of comparing Love to HOFers and future HOFers. Let's just compare Jordan Love 2022 to Jordan Love 2021, and ask the question: is he better? This one sample isn't going to give the definitive answer.

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Bure9620's picture

August 15, 2022 at 11:25 am

Why would you not compare him to other young QBs?

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 01:03 pm

I think perhaps just sick of the whole debate. Kind of how I came to feel about Rodgers v Favre. Some people will dredge up pure rubbish and others selective stats to “prove” their desired conclusion. In the end though, there’s no way to know with certainty as Dobber said. Yet still it will continue and yet convince no one.

QB comparisons have value in disproving assertions that A means B, but they don’t prove that A won’t mean C. Sadly this, like Favre Rodgers, isn’t going away until long after the outcome is settled by events. And some scribblers can’t resist fueling it endlessly as easy pickings for comments and clicks.

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dobber's picture

August 15, 2022 at 06:45 pm

Well said.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:13 am

Love hits two receivers in the hands and both result in INTs. It happens in football. QB gets the spotlight on the field and it shines on his stat line after the game. Both INTs were very good throws. The third INT was a poor pass.

During the game, after Love done for the day, Kuhn compared Rodger's stats as a 3rd year rookie in first PS game to Love's and they were very similar.

I saw Love commanding the huddle, urgency, good decisions and feet and a good arm making many different passes...short, long, touch and thread the needle zips.

I was encouraged.

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HawkPacker's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:31 am

He also did not have that 'deer in the headlights' look like last year as well.

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dobber's picture

August 15, 2022 at 10:52 am

I think the bottom line is that, with the exception of the first drive, the offense moved under Love....with no. 4 and below receivers, RBs who are 4th or below on the depth chart, and no commitment to the run game. The one plus was that he got to play with the current #1 OL. I'm not going to crush him or coronate him on this showing, but I think he's showing signs of being ahead of where he was last season, but he'll have two more games to help make that evaluation--and with only one other rostered QB who is likely to play any meaningful number of PS snaps, he'll get lots of chances.

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HarryHodag's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:15 am

Careful Bure9620. Talking too much sense will get you in trouble with the 'fire everybody' and "Love's a bust" crowd.

I feel confident that if Aaron Rodgers goes down, Love can move the offense. He's the backup QB, not the starter and will develop more.

The thinking among some is that Love's a bust and there's got to be someone better than him. I agree it's too soon to tell. I think he will be ok. There's no reason for concern unless Rodgers is injured or retires. At that point the team will make a decision. It's entirely possible Love plays out his contract and hits the road in free agency, especially if Rodgers stays through his contract.

The Packers would be wise to draft another QB to develop during the next draft to be around. Danny Etling might prove to be that developmental person but the Ron Wolf approach was to always draft a QB and it's a smart idea.

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:52 am

This “sense” should also be applied more widely. We sent out a lot of young and inexperienced players. I expect some to have bad games or plays and for some to look better than they are. That’s the nature of Inexperience. We will see a lot of guys like T Davis, Rodgers, D Davis, Toure, C Jones, K Jones, Slayton, Gafford, Shawn Davis, Scott etc. The likelihood is that some will change our perceptions markedly and in different directions. There are 2 games and a scrimmage to go. Let’s keep eyes and minds open.

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stockholder's picture

August 15, 2022 at 11:40 am

I don't believe thats it at all. You're afraid he's late bloomer. And that he'll need a burr under his saddle to get going. This is the NFL. Love has wasted what he had. It showed his last year in college. I'm saying you can't pay him now. The wait, and the money payout, will keep better talent away.

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 12:14 pm

Actually I see and saw him as a developmental high ceiling low floor project from the outset and I still do, remaining firmly on the fence. But that’s exactly not my point here.

I was making a point explicitly about the OTHER young players on the roster and how we need to see them over the 2 further games and scrimmage before we get too excited or too dismissive. There are many ups and downs yet to be seen.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

August 15, 2022 at 06:34 am

Agree with almost everything you said, Ken, but I have two misgivings about Goodson:

1. He doesn't read the field exceptionally well; he seems more focused on the guy in front of him. A Jones is GREAT at reading the field, and honestly, watching BJ Baylor's tape, I think BJ is better at that as well.
2. He and Baylor both have zero ability to drive a tackler backwards. They looked like pinballs when someone hit them, which also worries me a little about their durability. Every time they took one of those hits, I wondered if they'd be going to IR.

I was pleased with both Love and Etling as potential backups. NO one is likely to make me/us happy as the next Packer starting QB.

Amari R really looked like a completely different player out there.

I felt, going in, that the play of the OL was going to be the key; I felt relief when they were adequate.

I think my biggest surprise was how good the second/third string defensive line players looked. Jack Heflin and Chris Slayton both were impressive, as was Engabare.

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murf7777's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:53 am

I think BJ Baylor is the better RB…still early, but that’s from family night and 1 pre season game.

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HawkPacker's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:36 am

Agreed. I followed Goodson a lot of Iowa and the last year he avoided taking a hit. Also, don't look for him to break any tackles either.

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:56 am

Goodson is the better runner, Baylor is the better running back based on what I’ve seen. Baylor can also pass protect. Goodson is not good at that.

I think pump the breaks though in writing off Williams. It’s pretty clear to me that he was playing hindered and his snaps reflected that too. He looked promising earlier, a year removed from his injury.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:01 pm

It may well be that Patrick Taylor turns out to be the best #3 RB. I have kind of forgotten Kylin Hill, but he has what, 26 days to show if he is the same player. Well, actually cut downs are on August 30, so I guess he'd need to return really soon and then perform.

If I had to guess, I am inclined to think Taylor eventually is the last guy standing.

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PatB's picture

August 15, 2022 at 05:15 pm

Coming into preseason I thought Taylor was #3 regardless of Hill. But on Friday, Taylor did not look good at all. Right now I think that spot is wide open, with Baylor and Williams absolutely in the mix.

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 11:32 pm

Taylor was limited physically and in terms of snaps coming off an injury, a groin strain I think. I wouldn’t regard that game as a reliable indicator of Taylor’s ability

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PatB's picture

August 16, 2022 at 08:58 am

Fair enough. Hopefully he's fully recovered soon.

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NickPerry's picture

August 15, 2022 at 07:01 am

I was able to watch a Packers preseason game live for once on Friday. It was kinda nice to be able to watch it live, as opposed to following along on NLF.com and then watching after knowing the outcome. I wasn't all that impressed with Love, BUT I'm holding out judgment for the time being. Some of his ball placement was downright TERRIBLE. That definitely needs to be cleaned up, but it's the first preseason game of the season and he did throw some nice balls too. Time will tell...

I really like what Amari Rodgers did Friday Night. He made a good decision on the kick return and more burst and speed on the return and that TD catch and run than at ANY POINT last year. Good for Amari. Hopefully, it's the start of and look of things to come.

That kicker was AWFUL!! I don't know about that new dude but I sure would like to see Crosby get some time before week one.

I liked Tyler Goodson. Sirmans is a good coach IMO and hopefully can make him better just as he did with Jones, Dillon, and Williams before AJ.

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:59 am

Kicking with a pulled hammy is likely to screw up a swing in all fairness. The new guy has a hell of a leg, but his accuracy has been poor over his career to date.

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stockholder's picture

August 15, 2022 at 07:03 am

If you can see it with Etling. Why can't you see it with Love? Love makes LeFluer look bad. When a coach keeps making excuses for a guy. (It's based on draft status more than his play.) My point is don't pay the guy. The ceiling is gone after 3 years. Cut the cord.
Newman needs to be moved back to RG. Goodson does flash. And I wouldn't worry about any Rookie WR starting. Rodgers will go with the veterans. And unlike Love. He won't throw to them unless they're wide open. So worry about Amari Rodgers ST play first.
My new Alert is the safety position. I just don't like what I'm seeing.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:09 am

Because Love wasnt going against future pizza delivery guys. Kind of a big difference. You're just obsessed with hating him.

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stockholder's picture

August 15, 2022 at 11:21 am

GB isn't UTAH. .

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Johnblood27's picture

August 15, 2022 at 01:56 pm

and... you are not a GM or scout.

and still... you write off a talented young ascending player without the patience to see how high his ceiling is.

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HarryHodag's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:16 am

How does Love make Matt LF look bad? Matt LF seems to think he's done ok.

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stockholder's picture

August 15, 2022 at 11:15 am

CBS - Love Struggled! Look at what others say.

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Oppy's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:29 pm

Yes, the title is "Love Struggles". This is also the last two paragraphs of that article from CBS:

"While most of the national focus will be on his mistakes, Love did plenty of good things on Friday night. He completed each of his three passes that were either third or fourth-down plays on his two scoring drives. Love also showcased his mobility by running for 24 yards that included a 12-yard jaunt on his second drive.

Given how little he's played (Love has attempted just 62 regular season passes), it's understandable that the former first-round pick struggled at times on Friday night. It will be interesting to see how much Love progresses during the remainder of the preseason, which includes games against the Saints and at Kansas City. "

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Johnblood27's picture

August 15, 2022 at 04:23 pm

MLF LOOK BAD??????>

My God, have you even SEEN his eyebrows???

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T7Steve's picture

August 15, 2022 at 07:13 am

I was surprised at the O-line's pass blocking. It was better than I expected. I think the run blocking was dismal at best. We can't survive a lot of read option keepers, that Love ran well, as the most successful run plays. Those plays made me believe the game plan was made for love, at least.

One interception was on Love (the pass to Amari) the others were on the receivers, but, he missed some easy passes and should have been picked on some others.

I hope Ken's comments on ST are correct or we're in for another long year.

The whole game should be taken with a grain of sault. The lack of practice time spent shows (in all the games I saw). I don't think with the new CBA rules the coaches can get them ready in time for the first game, at least. Which makes injuries more aggravating.

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:10 am

The option keepers are just a wrinkle to keep the defense honest when they run rpo's. If theres no threat of the qb keeping it and running it, the rpo becomes that much less effective.

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dobber's picture

August 15, 2022 at 10:57 am

Very true, but they know that 12 isn't likely to do that very much. A nice wrinkle for this one, though, and nice to see them using his legs.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:26 am

O line run blocked for 141 yards (I would not call it "dismal at best") and the O had 440 total yards. O line played pretty well.

D line played well too. Heflin and the other Slayton played like it was their last game. It won't be. I am trying to think the last time I pondered about the the D line thinking "who are they going to cut?" Been a while.

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murf7777's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:58 am

The Oline surprised me at how good they played. Now, with Jenkins back we are in a good position, especially with depth. Go Bak Go!

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HawkPacker's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:41 am

Yes, getting Jenkins in the mix is huge. I had been hoping that we would get him or Bakhtiari back early in the season and the second on a month later. It is looking good now. I hope they move Jenkins to right tackle when he is ready.

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Oppy's picture

August 15, 2022 at 07:26 am

Everybody. for the love of god.. please, please, please stop with the Etling nonsense.

This will be Etling's 5th year as a pro. He's been with 8 different teams including a CFL team who signed him to their practice squad and then released him 3 weeks later.

Remember Tim Boyle? Remember Kurt Benkert? Packers fans suck at appraising QB talent.

I said what I meant.

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Bure9620's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:03 am

Thank you......Etling plays one productive preseason 2nd half against players whom will not be on rosters and now Etling should be the backup and Jump Jordan Love......No....Just no

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Bure9620's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:03 am

Thank you......Etling plays one productive preseason 2nd half against players whom will not be on rosters and now Etling should be the backup and Jump Jordan Love......No....Just no

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:32 am

My take on Etling he is being well coached and if you can hang around the NFL for several years, you have basic pro skills that can be coached up. I think he is responding.

Never was sold on Boyle or Benkert as anything more than NFL camp arms and skills to play in an emergency.

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stockholder's picture

August 15, 2022 at 11:24 am

Majik man! Give him #7.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:32 am

2x post.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:24 pm

Repeat

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 15, 2022 at 07:46 am

When people repeatedly show you who they are it's time to believe them. Love was pressured on 4 of 24 drop backs playing against a vanilla defense with vanilla coverages. He did what he did in conditions he'll never see in a regular season game. I fully expect him to have a good game against the Saints because that's what he does, even in practice. The inaccuracy leads to inconsistency, which with a decent roster leads to 8-9 to 10-7 seasons.

I wonder if there were Packer fans 40 years ago saying "How do we know Rich Campbell is no good, he never even got to start?"

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Return_To_Sanity's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:12 am

Brett Favre threw 37 combined interceptions his first 2 years starting. I guess Packers shouldve given up on him too. This is why the professionals who do this for a living dont listen to fans.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:25 pm

You're being disingenuous at best. That was a different era, QBs threw a lot more Ints back then.

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 03:25 pm

It’s only gone down from about 3.5% of passes thrown in 1991 to 2.2in 2020 (lowest ever). That limited magnitude would seem to undermine your claim of disingenuity. Rodgers of course is far lower than that for his career.

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LLCHESTY's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:25 pm

You're being disingenuous at best. That was a different era, QBs threw a lot more Ints back then.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:58 pm

Inaccuracy? Love has completed a much higher percentage than Rodgers did at the same point.

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 03:14 pm

This is true, but one would never believe it reading some here.

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Guam's picture

August 15, 2022 at 07:54 am

I wasn't nearly as impressed by Goodson. He does have burst through an open hole, but has zero ability to get tough yardage. The first guy that hits him ends the play.

Love looked much better at the mechanics of managing the offense, but he still seems to suffer from some of the inaccuracy he demonstrated in college. His ball placement on some throws was not good although I didn't see him sail any passes which was a previous issue. His third pick was a bad mental error as that pass should have never been thrown. I will need to see progress against New Orleans or I am going to start to worry about Love as a successor to Rodgers. Inaccuracy in the NFL means picks and few QBs survive too many turnovers.

Etling is not better than Love.

Amari Rodgers looked very good on special teams. He needs to show more progress as a WR.

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:58 am

Goodson might be best suited to the role Amari Rodgers was drafted for. He’s a good runner in space and has excellent hands for a WR, let alone an RB, but he’s not good at the things all RBs must do behind the line. Running ability alone does not make an RB. I think we could justify keeping him but as an option/slot type, but I don’t see that fitting in this roster.

I’m not going to discuss Love, save to say that he’s up and down but there are real ups—typically a good sign but not a conclusive one. I’m already sick of the agenda posts on him. Let’s see what happens going forward.

I’m intrigued that Ken praises Rodgers one play but exclude him from the list of those who showed they belong as receivers. I think that’s it in a nutshell. If he makes it it’s as a STer. Unlike many I think that may be his ceiling: ST and limited role player. I’d be delighted if he showed me otherwise, but he seems like a dump off in space is the way he needs to be used.

I wonder though if Watson (or even Goodson) might yet challenge for that role too. It does look like Doubs may have been taken out of the return competition. If so that helps Rodgers greatly but might force us to keep an extra receiver to cover in game day. In turn, that may force Watson to be inactive if all are healthy.

Etling had been much better than I expected, but I agree that some of the comments here are off in fantasy land. He’s a decent PS option.

Doubs reminds me much more of early Adams than MVS in terms of drops since he is so much better at tracking the ball and laying out to get it over multiple routes. In addition, I would say that it was his first game, so perhaps some nerves. There’s been some BS flying around that he had a drop issue coming in. If you research it that is really not the case. Let’s see if the issue resolved itself.

Nixon looks like he can play D. That’s a bonus. With Leavitt out, Nixon is as close to a lock as there is I suspect given his ST prowess.

I am not a fan of Newman at T. I’m not convinced either he or Tom was tested as much as they are by our ones in Friday. That was not SF’s starting rush. Beware false security in that one. Camp is probably a better indication and it’s not pretty.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:44 am

I keep reading posters saying Love has "inaccuracy he demonstrated in college". This is a narrative only.

His college stats as a starter at Utah State:

689 passes completed out of 1,125 attempts for 61.2 % completion. 60 TDs, 29 ints, QB rating of 137.9.

If interested, Aaron Rodgers stats as a starter at California:

424 passes completed out of 665 attempts for 63.8% completion. 43 TDs, 13 ints, QB rating of 150.3.

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Guam's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:54 am

I think you made my point about accuracy. Compare the interceptions - 13 for Rodgers and 29 for Love. And most of Love's interception came during his senior year (yes, new coach and lesser talent around him, but....). QBs can't throw picks and last in the NFL.

I have not given up on Love, but he throws too many picks and that needs to start to change - soon.

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:04 am

Love is, in my view, more of a gunslinger mentally than Rodgers. Let’s face it, Rodgers is historically stingy at giving away possession and really has been since his second year of starting. I don’t think, even if Love becomes a star, that we will have Rodgers-like ball security level. I also don’t we will see Favre’s either.

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Guam's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:08 am

Tried to edit my comment and add this, but the edit function does not seem to be working. Love had three interceptions versus Kansas City last year, two interceptions versus Detroit last year and three versus SF this preseason. This on top of 17 interceptions his senior year in college. Call it accuracy, call it judgement, whatever, but he throws too many picks. That trend line needs to change for Love to be a successful NFL QB.

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 10:04 am

It worked for Favre. Rodgers is a different creature but by no means represents the only acceptable approach to risk.

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Oppy's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:59 pm

Love had 1 INT vs. KC last year, not 3.

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LambeauPlain's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:59 am

I did not make your point about his inaccuracy, I disproved it...61% college career completion is accurate.

Guam...you focus on 29 ints and ignore the accuracy of 60 TDs?? SMH

Rodgers INT% was 1.9% at CA, Love's was 2.0% at Utah State.

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Guam's picture

August 15, 2022 at 10:30 am

We're going to agree to disagree LP. From his senior year forward Love has been throwing too many picks. Call that accuracy or judgement or any other name, there have been too many picks. I don't expect Rodgers like accuracy as that is a bar too high, but this aspect of his game has to improve.

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Bure9620's picture

August 15, 2022 at 12:50 pm

Utah St. was an awful team. I really don't understand why you compare college stats. The talent gaps are so immense in college you cannot simply say this QB has better or worse stats, mic drop.

For example, Tua Tagovialoa played at Alabama with an increidible offensive line with all day to throw, throwing to 2 top 15 draft picks.....Did any other QB have anything like this aroud them??? "He had great stats" I would sure hope so. Case in point, QBs supporting casts dictate a lot. Love did not have too much around him. What I like most about Love, is his ability to launch it downfield with a guy right in his lap and no pocket to step up into.....He had to do this a lot in college.

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Johnblood27's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:01 pm

Love didn't play a senior year.

He came out a year early.

He is only 23 now. He has an unlimited ceiling. His performance in college hinted at that.

Be patient, it's not as if he is playing like Brian Brohm did...

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Oppy's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:07 pm

If you're using Love's stat of 60 TDs to 29 INTs as a basis that someone has "made (your) point) about accuracy, you should know that a TD to INT ratio of over 2:1 is not a bad ratio by any stretch of the imagination.

Here's some career ratio information for you. Spoiler alert.. 2:1 ain't bad.

https://www.footballdb.com/leaders/career-passing-tdintratio

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Johnblood27's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:02 am

Great points...

When the green Bay Packers play an NCAA schedule we will have "The Man".

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:06 am

Are you arguing that he will start against the Bears?

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Johnblood27's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:31 am

did you use your Little Orphan Annie secret decoder ring to decipher my message?

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 10:06 am

You need a magic ring to detect an attempt at humor?

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Johnblood27's picture

August 15, 2022 at 11:14 am

with as many down votes as I get on my humorous posts I thought it might be necessary...

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 01:09 pm

Never worry about a down vote. It’s no votes that means you had nothing to say worth saying.

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Johnblood27's picture

August 15, 2022 at 04:26 pm

I don't worry - but I do see 'em! ;-)

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PatrickGB's picture

August 15, 2022 at 07:58 am

I watched most of the preseason games. I saw a whole lot of backups at QB. Love looked better than most of them yet did look worse than some of the veterans at that position. Perhaps with time he will be a good backup and occasional starter. I think that he will rise to be a middle of the pack type QB in the NFL. We got who we got and my hope is that coaching will improve his play.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:06 am

It is easy to judge a guy who pass through enormous drama for almost 1 and half year, knowing that most of fans expects him to be at least as BF & AR together if not better than them. He also sits one year w/o playing any game through that period (his rookie year!) and than played just 2 Q in the preseason of his second year, After that he was pushed to play game against Chiefs w/o any preparation for the game with starters (remember, AR was found positive Friday afternoon before the game in Kansas City). He was not prepared from coaches or he has the time to settle himself. Still he was able to score 1 TD on that game against KC top D and almost won the game. After all, he outplayed Mahomes, who was not on the same amount of pressure from D as he was exposed to. Half he got vs Detroit did not help him as he played with the players some of them are nor Packers any more and team around him helped him nothing, contrary just played relaxed and lazy. Still he managed to bring team to the lead after AR left him negative result on the half time.

In his year 3 (his second preseason) Jordan Love knows that everybody expects HOF type of playing from him. It is not hard to imagine what kind of pressure that brought to him before the game. Does not matter how 23 old guy is confident in himself when he was able to compare his and HOF QB posture and level of playing in TC this year. He is aware that he has a lot to learn yet to be on that level. And he tried. He tried hard. I assume Tom Clements tried to calm him down, but I do believe it is not possible in the situation. He has the talent - you can see it from his good plays. You can see that he can do all the throws, but he needs to be calm and he was put in the situation he can not be. That is why all those missed throws, short or to high, or errant or not at the exact spot.

I do not know if he will finally find his calmness, I think nobody can be sure in that, but let give him a chance, true chance to show us if he can. You can not judge the player after 2 hours of football, basically just one our on the top level.

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HawkPacker's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:56 am

Nice post Croat. I would like to add that I did see improvement from Love in all phases when compared to last year. He had zip on some of his passes (he did not have that last year that I saw), he did not seem nearly as 'scared' as last year either. I thought his confidence improved quite a bit. I also like him being able to run the ball as well.

I can definitely see the improvement in him.

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mrtundra's picture

August 15, 2022 at 08:39 am

Who would you want as back up QB, on this Packers team, if you had to choose a back up QB from any team in the NFC North? I'll take Love, every time! He has only played just a handful of snaps, in the regular season, and one full game against KC, and haters want him gone. Face it, Love is our QB 2 and I doubt Gute will trade him, now or ever, especially with Rodgers being so close to retiring.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:07 am

AR really needs to take Love under his wing. Make the trip down to South America together. Drink some tea. Learn some Love love. Expand the mind. Develop a bit more calm Zen in the pocket. Start collecting MVPs in a few years. He’s young and has good tools. He is progressing.

Had he been thrust into a starting roll when drafted, he’d probably be out of the league by now. But he landed in a perfect spot to age and mature as a QB. I’m betting that he’ll be in the top half of QB’s in the league when he finally takes the reigns.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:34 am

Good to see you back Doug.

Great comments!

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Since'61's picture

August 15, 2022 at 10:08 am

It's unreasonable to expect consistency from any QB who does not have a chance to consistently play. Love still needs the game to "slow down" for him. That will not happen for him unless and until he becomes a starting QB, whether in Green Bay or somewhere else.

Even Aaron Rodgers did not feel that the game had "slowed down" for him until the 2010 season. His third season as the Packers starting QB. Yes, there is the possibility that Love will never be an effective starting QB but there is also the possibility that he will be an effective starting QB in the NFL. But in fairness to him we won't know that until he starts for several games at least and maybe not until he has played 2 seasons or more as the starting QB.

First preseason games are nothing more than organized chaos as many of the players in the game have never stepped on an actual NFL field before. Hopefully Love and the rest of the team will look better over the next 2 preseason games. Thanks, Since '61

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 15, 2022 at 10:22 am

Rodgers first two seasons as a starter:

58TDs/20INTs
8472 yds
64% comp rate

If Love could come close to duplicating those numbers once he becomes a starter, I'd be ecstatic, especially on a team with a strong D and running game.

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 03:37 pm

That was his 4th and 5th season. Some way to go before we can compare. As LH pointed out, at this point Love is ahead on completion rate.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 15, 2022 at 04:18 pm

I think I clearly stated it was his first two years as a STARTER. I'm fully aware it was his 4th and 5th seasons. No need to be condescending.

Not sure the point of your post. I was simply stating it would be great if Love could approach those numbers in his first two years as a STARTER. Never said I thought he would or wouldn't.

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Since'61's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:05 pm

I agree 13Times. Those numbers would work for me if Love becomes the Packers starting QB.
Thanks, Since '61

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Lphill's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:41 am

I think Engabare , excuse the spelling, is going to be a pleasant surprise at edge.

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coolhand's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:01 pm

And I liked what I saw from Caleb Jones as well, even though it was late game action. The guy is huge and I thought he showed some good hands and mobility

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TarynsEyes's picture

August 15, 2022 at 10:42 am

Let's look at Love in the role of Denzel Washington in the Equalizer and assess what he can do to outplay the other teams. What you cannot do is bring Rodgers into this for any reason, and especially for comparison of camp or college. Rodgers does not exist in this Dojo.

Where is Love when compared to the other QBs he will play against in the regular season.

Look at the schedule and make an honest assessment based on what Love has shown you, not what you think, hope for next year or even next week.

1 Sept. 11 at Vikings Loss
2 Sept. 18 vs. Bears (SNF) Win
3 Sept. 25 at Buccaneers Loss
4 Oct. 2 vs. Patriots Win
5 Oct. 9 Giants (at London) Loss
6 Oct. 16 vs. Jets Win
7 Oct. 23 at Commanders Loss
8 Oct. 30 at Bills (SNF) Loss
9 Nov. 6 at Lions Loss
10 Now 13 vs Cowboys Win
11 Nov. 17 vs. Titans (TNF) Win
12 Nov. 27 at Eagles (SNF) Loss
13 Dec. 4 at Bears Loss
14 BYE — — —
15 Dec. 19 vs. Rams (MNF) Loss
16 Dec. 24 at Dolphins Loss
17 Jan. 1 vs. Vikings Win
18 Jan 8 vs Lions Win

I have them at 7-10, but admit there are about 2 coin flips which could get him to 9-8 and those games are the Giants in London, and against Washington, but the Jet game can be a loss coming back from London with no extra days between games, so a win in London can be negated against the Jets.

I believe a split against Division teams is not out of the realm of reality, and a sweep of them is an absolute need to make the playoffs a possibility, especially if the coin flip games don't end with Packer wins.

Is this enough to pick up the fifth year option, sure, but in order to give Love a new deal, is this enough to push Rodgers out to have Love be the starter in 2023 or 2024 because Love WILL NEED to be the season starter in 2023 to justify any new deal if the Fifth year option is selected.

How is the feeling about Love as the successor to the HOF QB run?

I don't think Love will be a road show,

OK. Have at it.

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croatpackfan's picture

August 15, 2022 at 01:22 pm

Well, it might be right if you do not count development of the young QB during the season. And you did not do that. You have 60 minutes of real game when Jordan Love played under the most unfavorable conditions and making assumption based on that? I'm really disappointed on this comment by you. You might be "pesimist" but your comments are mostly based on facts.

But that happens when you try to be Nostradamus with Crystal ball...

Pretty poor.

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TarynsEyes's picture

August 15, 2022 at 01:51 pm

You miss the point of the premise, it's taking away Rodgers and having Love start right now, this season, with what this team is. I discount the growth of the young players as the season progresses because that is a detriment to Love in this exercise, as they will not grow with Love as with Rodgers, because Rodgers and Love are no where equal in the ability to grow players. The question is simple and direct, what would the Packer's record be with Love being the starter this season. Answer or don't, but don't simply dislike my comment. This is a scenario many wanted before Rodgers got a new deal. Name your wins and losses and coin flip games.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:38 pm

It's a silly premise no matter how you look at it.

First off, Rodgers isn't going to be "taken away" so Love can start right now, barring a catastrophic injury.

Secondly, trying to pick a team's record, regardless of who the QB is, after one preseason game, and before the roster has even been set, is beyond silly and pointless.

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TarynsEyes's picture

August 15, 2022 at 03:33 pm

Trying to project what a team's record will be is exactly what everyone here does, I just added the nuance of Rodgers not being considered for this season. What's the matter, is it too challenging to not simply say 13-4, 14-3. Can't place yourself in an honest assessment of this team with Love starting this season?

It means the half-full glass isn't half-full anymore, and Love doesn't make it so, in fact he makes it even less half-full than the loss of Rodgers does. Be honest, where is this team this season with Love having to be the starter?

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 15, 2022 at 04:10 pm

There's nothing "challenging" about predicting the outcome of the 10/23 game against Washington or the 12/24 game against Miami on August 15th, without knowing who will be on the rosters of those teams as well as our own.

Might as well predict what the weather is going to be on October 15th. Or whether you're going to have a toothache on November 15th.

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fordguy's picture

August 15, 2022 at 04:20 pm

I thought you were actually being a little generous on the record.

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Johnblood27's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:08 pm

yawn...

your assigned exercise isn't worth the time to throw the darts at the dartboard.

Far too many variables to even be a worthwhile fantasy.

Just say you don't think love is worth a shit and be done with it. That's what you mean by all this nonsense.

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TarynsEyes's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:28 pm

I didn't say I love or hate Love, I asked if this is enough to move forward with Love or not. Is it enough for GB to say bye-bye to Rodgers this year or next year if this is what Love gave you this year.

Why don't you just say that Love would go 13-4, and get to the SB? You can't give an honest assessment.

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Johnblood27's picture

August 15, 2022 at 04:21 pm

Not even my screen name is Kreskin...

I will leave all the fantasy extrapolations to you.

If Love was starting this season, I would be truly excited to watch him grow and develop as the season progresses, and i have a good deal of confidence in what I have seen of him thus far to believe that the gbp would be in all of their games with him at QB.

Comparing him to 2 HOF QB is a fools game, he is Jordan Love, let's just see where he goes without all of the overblown expectations, stated OR implied - you know what you did.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:20 pm

Taryn,
Gave you a thumbs up just for the effort put into your comment. I'd take the 7+ victories with Love. Without going back and researching the year and the # of victories but following a 13-3 season and a Championship game appearance with Favre, Rodgers the following season while in his 3rd year with virtually the same team won only 6 games losing 10. Believe this is accurate but let me know otherwise.

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ImaPayne's picture

August 15, 2022 at 10:41 am

Seen a lot of QB's come and go and this guy is not NFL caliber. He telegraphs his passes, lacks speed to roll out and make people miss, makes poor decisions, the later is a killer because that's the mental side of the game. Many a QB who can make good decisions survives even though they may not have a great arm.
The ones with a great arm and poor mind pass to often to the defense.
I say he is bust o matic unless he starts to show something new.

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ImaPayne's picture

August 15, 2022 at 10:42 am

Seen a lot of QB's come and go and this guy is not NFL caliber. He telegraphs his passes, lacks speed to roll out and make people miss, makes poor decisions, the later is a killer because that's the mental side of the game. Many a QB who can make good decisions survives even though they may not have a great arm.
The ones with a great arm and poor mind pass to often to the defense.
I say he is bust o matic unless he starts to show something new.
And please this is year 3. He's not a rookie.

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canadapacker's picture

August 15, 2022 at 11:03 am

One thing that I want to point out - IF one remembers - when AR was still a 2nd stringer behind #4 - everybody ranted on how poor his footwork was. BUT everyone absolutely raved about how hard he threw the ball and how accurate he was on those throw the balls through the tires drills. But also remember what the scouts said about him - and San Fran took Smith ""AFC scout: "He's a system quarterback. 3-, 5-, 7-step guy. Can't create on his own. Panics under pressure. Gets flustered easy. I don't think there's a quarterback in the draft worthy of a first-round pick. I'm dead serious. None of them are worth it."""" Both AR and Smith proved this scout wrong - however I am concerned that Love is not earning any accuracy marks - it is different laying a ball to a wide open guy down the field when not pressured and when the receiver can adjust. But those short throws and the missed throws to the backs. And both of those INT;s tipped or not were NOT accurate and that caused the issues. So he needs to show me a lot more. As far as the 5th option is concerned- he has not played so unlike Trubisky - I would like to see what the actual cost might be - because it might be worth a pick if he is to be traded rather than cut/released.

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stockholder's picture

August 15, 2022 at 12:06 pm

Major stat.=== Jordan Love is the 1st QB to start a preseason game and throw 3+ INTs since Brandon Allen did it for Jags vs Falcons 8/31/17
9:42 PM · Aug 12, 2022·Twitter Web = Josh Dubow

And he was pulled at 1/2 Time! (After everyone agreed he needed work) MY question is; does he really want to be a Packer??

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 01:20 pm

He was pulled with the “starting” O line. His head coach believes at least 2 of the 3 interceptions were not on him and the 3rd only partially. Too far, too nuts.

If CHTV is going to continue to wallow in this level of discussion over a guy we all hope won’t actually play, then it’s hardly worth coming here. Whoever ends up being right about love. This subject is already neck high in drivel and has drowned anything worth talking about and many whom I come here to read.

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Swisch's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:09 pm

We're bound to repeat ourselves here at CHTV, but when it gets to be too much, my suggestion is to skim and skip.

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T7Steve's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:26 pm

Agree. I was just happy the coaches seemed to have a game plan made for him, and I got bashed because I thought the O-line should be able to pick up some 3rd and ones so they had to keep passing.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:10 pm

This whole Jordan Love love/hate relationship is getting old.

Fact: He is very young at 23-years of age and coming into the league it was well documented he was very talented, but needed time to develop and work on many facets of the game. Even though with covid and last pre-seasons injury has limited his availability he is making progress. He is showing continued growth and development. Love could not be in a better environment sitting and watching behind Rodgers. Yes, Love has years and years yet where he can continue to grow and develop.

Fact: Yes, in this last game he showed some nervousness and wasn't as accurate as we would like to see. Every game he plays he will be more comfortable. I have to laugh at some of the posters and their negative evaluations of Love. Like none of us have had a big interview in front of a number of power executives where you wanted to do a good job and were nervous? How about having to step up and give a presentation in front of a large audience? Did you have nerves and were you anxious? Well, try doing what Love is doing at 23-years of age in front of millions of people. Where quite a few want him to fail.

I anticipate Jordan will show better in the next two pre-season games as he calms down and his confidence ratchets upwards. As some very knowledgeable posters have already said we truly won't know what we have in Jordan Love until he plays a couple of full seasons as a starter. Playing QB in the NFL takes quite a bit of time to understand the game and how to attack different defenses. I'm fully confident in Jordan and expect to see him turn into a very good QB in the NFL. Hopefully, he develops into the QB we want while with the GBP's.

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stockholder's picture

August 15, 2022 at 12:44 pm

If you want Love to succeed as a Packer. Play him against the 3rd stringers. The kid gloves have to come off. They must try and get him in a Rhythm. He's failed every time they started him. The Confidence is gone.

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Packers0808's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:36 am

I like Etling and Dexter Williams, give them more chances seems like good upside for both.It took Douglas 5 teams before he made it!

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 15, 2022 at 01:07 pm

Danny Etling is 28 years old and has been cut by 7 different teams.
Dexter Williams has 7 career rushes for 19 yards over 2 years.
Just stop it.

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stockholder's picture

August 15, 2022 at 01:36 pm

I thought it was 8. And was brought back by some. He did have the longest pre-season run by a qb. The Vikings tried to make him into a WR.
After the Patriots drafted him in the 7th rd. He went on the PS= Because He wasn't Brady.
Still the kid shows No Fear. And if you want a running QB. Bobby Douglass comes to mind. Fran Tarkenton?
Still he wasn't suppose to push Love. My comparison is Majik. But I want Roger Staubach's arm.And if he plays better than Love. He's a cheaper alternative.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:09 pm

Like usual, I have no idea what point you're trying to make. Where in my post did I say I wanted a running QB?

As far as Etling goes, if you don't realize he's nothing more than a camp arm, your football IQ is sorely lacking.

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Oppy's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:45 pm

He also attempted to convert to RB in ATL.

He's been PS everywhere he went, nobody wanted to commit to him for a second year (when he made it through a year on PS), and he's tried to change positions twice? (I didn't know about the WR thing in MIN, I only knew about the RB attempt).

By the way, it is 8 teams if you count the Packers- it's 7 OTHER teams outside of the Packers.

THat's a guy who is completely marginal arm talent at the pro level. Teams have given him the chance because he was a winner at the previous level, and clearly, he's got some tools they like. But when you can't even stick on a PS after 5 years, it's not a good sign.

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Packers0808's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:14 am

Who the hell do you think you are telling someone what to do? You one of those know it alls, if so why aren't you a head coach or the head of player personnel? Love you clowns who don't like another's opinion and likes and spout your nonsense, grow up and be a man. This is Douglas' 5th team before held on!

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Oppy's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:47 pm

Packers0808-

Seriously, though... Just stop it.

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Packers0808's picture

August 16, 2022 at 07:13 am

Why this is Douglass 5th team before he stuck and Campbrlls 3rd team. Sometimes many players need many chances before they make it!

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Oppy's picture

August 17, 2022 at 01:04 am

Third and fourth round picks, not seventh rounders.. Campbell has always been on a 53 man roster and generally speaking a starting player; and even though Rasul has definitely struggled in his early career, even he made it past final cuts as a rookie.

Look, I am fully aware sometimes guys get lost in the shuffle or struggle early only to blossom later, but it's exceedingly rare with QBs when they bounce around practice squads and never find a home. They are a premium position and if you show even a glint of potential to develop, teams covet those players and tend not to let them go unless they've decided they can do better.

Time will tell, but my guess is Etling never suits up again in the NFL after 2022.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 16, 2022 at 08:26 am

I agree that sometimes a player needs the right environment to be successful. But to compare Etling to Douglas and Campbell is ridiculous. Between Douglas and Campbell, they have played a total of 135 games in the NFL before signing with GB, with 99 as a starter at their respective positions.

Danny Etling has never played in a regular season NFL game in 5 seasons, failing to ever being elevated from the practice squad, including with a CFL team where he also was cut from their PS.

I'm sure he's a great guy, but he is what he is...a practice squad quality camp arm.

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Packers0808's picture

August 16, 2022 at 08:53 am

Nice try but still all need their chances no matter how many times. How many times did Bell try for the telephone etc. Doesn't matter the fields of opportunity try as long as you can is my point! How about Warner as a qb, how long for him to make it? I see nothing wrong for having hope for a guy with talents.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 16, 2022 at 09:13 am

It is certainly your prerogative to root for him. By all means, have at it.

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dobber's picture

August 16, 2022 at 09:40 am

Everyone's favorite QB on the roster is the one that will never play.

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Packers0808's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:29 am

You missed the point totally! Did I just say QB? Nope!

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dobber's picture

August 16, 2022 at 10:59 am

Just a general "the grass is always greener" comment...I don't think I missed the point.

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PatrickGB's picture

August 15, 2022 at 02:36 pm

I think that Love is still growing as a QB. Some first round QB’s show promise from their first start, most do not. Like (most) everyone here I know he has a ways to go, yet only time will tell if he is above average as a starter. Right now he is the backup to a future hall of fame QB and comparisons will always fall short.

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jont's picture

August 15, 2022 at 03:59 pm

I don't know what to think of Love as our next QB either.

Looking at a QB, stats can be misleading, and I'll leave analysis of a QB's footwork or reading of progressions to knowledgeable people who closely watch a lot of film. For most fans, certainly for me, perspective and expectations are important in trying to form a judgment, and from this perspective, as as I want to love Love, I can't. Against SF he didn't look like a 1st rounder in his 3rd camp; he looked pretty ordinary.

OK, OK. Covid, limited real game experience, look at 12's numbers for two preseasons, better than last year.

But how's this for a perspective: what if Rodgers had pulled the plug last year? How would we feel about Love's readiness? I think we'd be .500 nd calling on Gute to draft another one.

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Oppy's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:50 pm

I think this team wins more than it would lose with Love under center in 2022.

The team is built for a QB transition. Defense is primed to win games. Run game has potential to dominate. Assuming Jenkins and/or Bakh return to serviceable duty, the OL is scrappy and can make it happen.

WR room is the question mark, but early returns look promising.

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BAMABADGER's picture

August 15, 2022 at 04:56 pm

Love needs real game action with an NFL starting line-up, something he has yet to do. His one start (KC last season) many of the offensive starters were out, yet the game was close. The first two series last Friday, Love played against the starting 49er D with an offense consisting of rookie RBs & WRs, a backup OL (that provided adequate pass protection/poor run blocking), and just terrible TE play. The main thing Love needs is to improve is consistent passing mechanics (feet position/leg drive) and decision making. Coaching can improve mechanics, experience "should" improve decision making. Blast away on his performance when he has a quality offensive team around him. Josh Allen is 3 years older than Love. It took two seasons as a "starting QB" for him to begin performing at an elite level. MLF, Jordan continues to learn behind a legend, but give him opportunity to run with all the big boys in at least one preseason game.

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Oppy's picture

August 15, 2022 at 09:22 pm

I don't think people get it.

Etling isn't some young QB who has bounced around the league as a #2 QB and the Packers scooped up a ball of potential and have the luxury of developing a #2 QB talent on our PS.

Etling is a young QB who has never made a 53 man roster at cut down, has been put on 7 other team's practice squads, and was released from all of them.

Teams that decided they didn't want to keep Etling as a PS player: Falcons, Seahawks, Jaguars, Broncos, Patriots, Vikings, British Columbia Lions, and, of course, the Packers declined to keep Etling around in favor of Kurt Benkert a year ago.. And Kurt Benkert is not playing football as of this moment.

I hope he does well in whatever he does. But all this "He looks like a real nice guy to keep on practice squad" stuff? He's desperately clinging to the NFL dream at this moment. I really do root for him, but he's been with 8 teams as a practice squad arm and nobody has felt strongly enough about him to keep him around.

He's an NFL camp arm.

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Coldworld's picture

August 15, 2022 at 11:59 pm

If we do carry a 3rd QB on the PS I am fine with it being Etling this year based on what I’ve seen. Is he better than Benkert? Probably not, but he doesn’t appear dramatically worse and he seems to be able to read what’s happening around him. He could handle managing a game if we had to use him in the sense of not losing it, which is about all one can ask of a 3rd string guy, and that’s what he is.

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